--- Log opened Sat Oct 06 00:00:38 2007
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08:53 < cgetty> Good evening all
08:53 < cgetty> I've been thinking. Looking at the Network Gateway Kit for $69, gonna try to get my hands on one to play with.
08:53 < cgetty> I found two links that I thought would be helpful for new ones (like me) playing with SBCs or what ever they are called. a wiki
08:53 < cgetty> http://www.avrfreaks.net/wiki/index.php/Documentation:NGW#Introduction_to_the_NGW
08:53 < cgetty> and a video http://www.avrtv.com/2007/06/29/avrtv-special-002/
08:53 < cgetty> Hey An idea, have a small part in your magazine called something like beginners corner featuring things like these for new ones wanting to learn:-)
08:59 < cgetty> check out this one too http://www.avrtv.com/2007/07/02/avrtv-special-003/
09:03 < cgetty> This demo ROCKS, I can even to something useful with this kit
09:09 < cgetty> Its supposed to say "I can even do somthing usful with this kit". Wish I could claim that english was my second language but it not :-( Good Night all :-)
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10:44 < rxr> re
10:59 < CIA-8> rene * r26222 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-ati/xf86-video-ati.desc: * updated xf86-video-ati (6.7.194 -> 6.7.195)
11:01 < CIA-8> rene * r26223 /trunk/package/filesystem/ntfs-3g/ntfs-3g.desc: * updated ntfs-3g (1.913 -> 1.1004)
11:05 < CIA-8> rene * r26224 /trunk/package/emulators/yabause/ (. yabause.cache yabause.desc): * added yabause (0.9) - A Saturn emulator
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11:06 < itsu> good morning 2 ya all
11:07 < rxr> Ragnar|away: yes, -fPIE or so
11:07 < rxr> Ragnar|away: we already have an option for that
11:07 < rxr> Ragnar|away: it just injects -fPIE everywhere or so
11:07 < rxr> Ragnar|away: was lightly tested some year ago by me
11:07 < rxr> Ragnar|away: might require one fix here and there, please try .-)
11:08 < CIA-8> susan * r26225 /trunk/package/gnome2/glibmm/glibmm.desc: * updated glibmm (2.14.0 -> 2.14.1)
11:18 < CIA-8> susan * r26226 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkmm/gtkmm.desc: * updated gtkmm (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
11:20 < cyda> moin
11:21 < rxr> moin cyda
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11:22 < tri> moin
11:27 < CIA-8> susan * r26227 /trunk/package/gnome2/libsoup/libsoup.desc: * updated libsoup (2.2.100 -> 2.2.101)
11:28 < cyda> so about the magazine....
11:28 < cyda> just finished my t2 router build with quagga
11:28 < cyda> will be writing a howto soon
11:28 < cyda> :-)
11:29 < rxr> cyda: nice!
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11:29 < cyda> you know what howto we really need though....
11:30 < cyda> updates on mas deployment servers
11:30 < cyda> mass*
11:30 < cyda> theres passing mention on it in the docs
11:30 < cyda> but detail would be nice
11:31 < CIA-8> rene * r26228 /trunk/package/base/suspend/MacBook2.patch: * added MacPro entry to suspend/s2ram whitelist
11:31 < rxr> ok - I'll add it to my todo
11:31 < rxr> we'll also soon have to hurry writing more parts of the book, as the publisher wants the final version, soon
11:31 < cyda> lol i didnt know we hada publisher
11:32 < rxr> for europe in the beginning (o'reilly didn't want it yet)
11:33 < rxr> but it will remain free and on the homepage as PDF all the time, as it is for example with the Subversion book as well
11:33 < rxr> but this process helped a lot and helps to greatly improve the free version as well
11:33 < rxr> e.g. writing all the chapters that otherwise would never have been written due lack or time or so
11:37 < cyda> has anyone played around with smack yet?
11:37 < rxr> not me
11:37 * rxr googling
11:37 < tri> what is smack
11:38 < cyda> http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/129792/
11:38 < cyda> i saw linus ranting about it on kerneltrap
11:39 < cyda> they are having this big hoo-ha on smack vs selinux
11:40 < cyda> they actually have a 2.6.22 patch
11:42 < tri> hi rene anything planned for 29.03.08 ?
11:43 < rxr> Ragnar|away: ?
11:47 < rxr> sorry tri ?
11:47 < rxr> is there some event somewhere ?
11:47 < rxr> I have no calenter for 2008, yet
11:47 < rxr> maybe that is cebit time
11:47 < rxr> but aside other fixed stuff like cebit my schedule for 2008 is empty right now
11:47 < cyda> the world ends on 1-1-08 ;-p
11:47 < cyda> no need to make plans
11:48 < cyda> like the evangelicals, God talks to me too
11:48 < rxr> heh the world did end already at 1-1-00 or 1-1-01 or so - this already just is a dream :-)
11:48 < cyda> He said it was a secret but what the heck
11:48 < cyda> hahaha
11:48 < cyda> yeah and somone made billions then
11:49 < rxr> the guys who sold emergengy kits with food and weapons in the US :-)
11:49 < tri> http://linuxwiki.de/AugsburgerLinuxInfoTag2008
11:50 < rxr> .oO(the friends we had in augsburg just emmigrated to australia :-()
11:50 < CIA-8> rene * r26229 /trunk/package/network/libgift/libgift.desc: * updated libgift/gift-gnutella (0.0.10 -> 0.0.11)
11:51 < CIA-8> rene * r26230 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.5.3.2 -> 1.5.3.4)
11:52 < CIA-8> rene * r26231 /trunk/package/filesystem/ntfsprogs/ntfsprogs.desc: * updated ntfsprogs (1.13.1 -> 2.0.0)
11:52 < CIA-8> rene * r26232 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnokii/gnokii.desc: * updated gnokii (0.6.18 -> 0.6.19)
11:54 < tri> we have spleeping places for a few persons every year - just if you feel boring around 29.03.08 :-)
11:54 < CIA-8> rene * r26233 /trunk/package/network/nss_ldap/nss_ldap.desc: * updated nss_ldap (257 -> 257.2)
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12:02 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
12:42 < CIA-8> rene * r26234 /trunk/package/base/atop/ (atop.desc install.patch):
12:42 < CIA-8> * updated atop (1.20 -> 1.21), and fixed the package to use install
12:42 < CIA-8> to copy the program binary, as "the text file might be busy"
13:18 < CIA-8> rene * r26235 /trunk/target/desktop/pkgsel: * fixed exif related package selection in the desktop target
13:25 < CIA-8> rene * r26236 /trunk/target/desktop/pkgsel: * added atop to the desktop target
13:28 < CIA-8> rene * r26237 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-common.conf.m4:
13:28 < CIA-8> * try to enable HPET, HIGH_RES_TIMERS and NO_HZ config options by
13:28 < CIA-8> default (if available) and try to avoid CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT
13:29 < CIA-8> rene * r26238 /trunk/package/base/linux26/mactel.patch: * added Mac Pro sensor support to the applesmc in the linux26/mactel.patch
13:31 < rxr> of for dinner and such - cu soon
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15:07 < rxr> re
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15:07 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal]
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15:19 < Baldzius> moin
15:22 < rxr> mon moin Baldzius
15:22 * rxr back in a little
15:23 < Baldzius> hi rxr
15:23 < rxr> Baldzius: what do you think about a vserver partition on our server? what that be ok?
15:23 < rxr> cu soon
15:24 < Baldzius> rxr: for me everything is ok what just works :)
15:24 < Baldzius> cu
15:25 < Baldzius> rxr: btw any chance to get xorg 1.4 soon ?
15:26 < Baldzius> have anoying bug with integrated Intel video, i hope it won't happen with 1.4
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16:42 < pachypodium> Hi there !
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16:43 < pachypodium> I've spent most of my day googling there and there
16:43 < DeeKe1> hi all
16:43 < pachypodium> Hi Deekel
16:45 < pachypodium> Does anybody work with ada ?
16:45 < DeeKe1> nope
16:46 < DeeKe1> maybe you know about enomalism?
16:48 < pachypodium> enomalism ?
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17:22 < rxr> re
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17:29 < sepp> moin
17:29 < rxr> moin sepp
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17:29 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 22 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal]
17:29 < sepp> hi rxr
17:50 < DeeKe1> he all!
17:50 < DeeKe1> * mean Hi :)
17:52 < sepp> hi DeeKe1
17:55 < rxr> hi DeeKe1
18:56 < CIA-8> rene * r26239 /trunk/package/base/linux26/disable-broken.lst:
18:56 < CIA-8> * blacklisted CONFIG_EVBUG for linux26, as it is auto-matched to load
18:56 < CIA-8> by our current u/dev setup and just annoyingly spams the syslog ...
18:59 < CIA-8> rene * r26240 /trunk/architecture/ (x86/kernel26-disable.lst x86-64/kernel26-disable.lst):
18:59 < CIA-8> * blacklisted CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA, for x86 and x86-64 (e.g. not for
18:59 < CIA-8> PowerPC or SPARC where it is vitial for console output) as it
18:59 < CIA-8> often brings up a very corrupted framebuffer on the latest,
18:59 < CIA-8> greatest cards
19:09 < rxr> valentin: heh, the new apple alu keyboards only activate capslock if is is pressed longer than a few ms
19:09 < rxr> valentin: that is when you just accidently glitch on it it is not activated ... :-)
19:09 < rxr> interesting feature ...
19:13 < emte> or someone put and extra cap in the circuit
19:13 < emte> an*
19:14 < emte> or the wrong capacitance
19:16 < rxr> I think it's an intersting feature
19:17 < rxr> caps lock annoys me more than it helps (when I e.g. type something with many capitals while eating a cockie or so ... :-)
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19:28 < rxr> hey cgetty
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19:28 < cgetty> hi
20:05 < Ragnar|away> rxr?
20:05 -!- Ragnar|away is now known as Ragnarin
20:05 < Ragnarin> ah thanks
20:15 < rxr> yep
20:15 < rxr> hi
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20:15 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 23 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal]
20:15 < Ragnarin> hey hey
20:16 < Ragnarin> thanks thanks thanks for r26239
20:21 < rxr> your welcome
20:21 < rxr> should have done that 6 month ago
20:21 < rxr> I'm in some polishing mode as I finally want 7.0 out ...
20:22 < rxr> (those polishing will be merged into 7.0
20:22 < rxr> )
20:26 < rxr> Ragnarin: this work will also include getting rid of all the annoying udev warnings ...
20:27 < Ragnarin> yay ;)
20:27 < rxr> yeah
20:28 < Ragnarin> oh another annoying thing ... the initrd fails to boot a rootfs on a scsi raid controller
20:28 < Ragnarin> tries to access the device before it's ready, which seems to block it from ever becoming ready
20:30 < rxr> ouh?
20:30 < Ragnarin> a sleep 10 before the mount fixes it
20:30 < rxr> strange
20:30 < Ragnarin> but wondering if there's a cleaner way
20:31 < rxr> the initrd already tries once a second 15 times already or so ..
20:31 < Ragnarin> yea but when the first time fails, every other try fails too
20:31 < Ragnarin> that's probably a driver bug
20:33 < rxr> what controler is that ?
20:33 < Ragnarin> 01:06.1 I2O: Adaptec (formerly DPT) SmartRAID V Controller (rev 02)
20:34 < Ragnarin> also with:
20:34 < Ragnarin> 05:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Areca Technology Corp. ARC-1220 8-Port PCI-Express to SATA RAID Controller
20:35 < rxr> oh - ok, but they are quite different, so maybe not some driver bug, but T2's initrd triggering some kernel interaction issue ...
20:35 < Ragnarin> quite possible
20:37 < rxr> I place it in my T2 basket (http://www.t2-project.org/packages/basket.html)
20:37 < Ragnarin> ok ;)
20:38 < rxr> but feel free to analyze it before I find the time :-)
20:38 < Ragnarin> btw I dunno if that got fixed, but the ide-generic module gets sometimes loaded before more specific ide modules, blocking those
20:39 < Ragnarin> would be nice to be able to load this module last, always
20:39 < rxr> it should be always loaded before, but I do not know (yet, did not look yet) why the specific modules can sometimes not take over ...
20:39 < rxr> hm - yeah - loading it last could probably solve that, indeed
20:39 < rxr> do you have a board where the current setup does not fail?
20:39 < rxr> as I never have seen this myself
20:39 < rxr> only read by newcomers here in the channel ...
20:40 < Ragnarin> does not? or does?
20:40 < rxr> does fail :-)
20:40 < Ragnarin> it fails with every newer core2 board I have here
20:41 < Ragnarin> (randomly)
20:41 < Ragnarin> usually it manifests in the cdrom drive working
20:41 < Ragnarin> not*
20:41 < rxr> hm, on our core 2 duo mac stuff it just works, interesting
20:42 < Ragnarin> maybe it uses a different ide chipset ... I dunno
20:42 < rxr> the intel one ...
20:43 < rxr> well - but the ide-generic load could indeed be moved at the end of the sequence ...
20:43 < Ragnarin> yea
20:43 < rxr> I have to go, now - hunting for some food as the shops now close at 21:00 in germany ...
20:43 < Ragnarin> okay ;)
20:44 < Ragnarin> have a good one, I just had breakfast here
20:44 < rxr> if you feel to check the generic-ide thing out
20:44 < rxr> but grep the whole tree for occurances the code is in variants in at least package/base/mkinitrd and target/share/livecd/init or so ...
20:44 < rxr> cu the
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20:44 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 23 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal]
20:45 < Ragnarin> cya
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23:38 < Necrosan> anyone seen splyxx/bizfish?
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