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09:03 < mpp> moinsen
09:03 < mpp> moinmoin
09:31 < jncneo> hi!
09:33 < jncneo> i still have problem with compiling acl... i've tryed to add libiconv as rxr advised me but the result was the same:
09:33 < jncneo> i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc: /root/t2-trunk/build/default-8.0-trunk-wildix-distro-x86-geodelx-linux/usr/lib/libintl.a: No such file or director
09:35 < mpp> hm...
09:35 < mpp> acl ...
09:35 < mpp> i can have look myself too
09:35 < mpp> what target / arch do you build
09:35 < mpp> ?
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09:49 < jncneo> i've used my own target which is modified embedded-minimal
09:50 < jncneo> arch - x86
09:53 < csiadmin> morning all :)
09:54 < jncneo> morning!
10:07 < mpp> moinsen
10:07 < mpp> i have to pass on embedded stuff
10:07 < mpp> hey csiadmin
10:07 < mpp> any luck
10:07 < mpp> =
10:07 < mpp> ?
10:08 < csiadmin> mpp: 'fraid not - error mounting /dev/cdrom no medium found
10:08 < csiadmin> mpp: what about you - did you get sorted?
10:09 < csiadmin> mpp: you were only slightly frustrated yesterday
10:09 < csiadmin> ;)
10:09 < mpp> kind of
10:09 < mpp> thanx anyways
10:09 < mpp> the dev cdrom mounting
10:09 < mpp> u could alter it to a specific path
10:10 < mpp> like /dev/sda /dev/sdb or whatever device u found in the rescue mode
10:12 < csiadmin> mpp: do you mean mount the cd elsewhere? or install from somewhere else?
10:13 < mpp> specify the device it is used
10:13 < mpp> the mount command is something like
10:13 < mpp> mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /mnt/iso
10:13 < mpp> e.g.
10:13 < mpp> so u need to change the /dev/cdrom portion
10:16 < csiadmin> mpp: when I boot of the cd I don't get any command line, so do I change this in the build? could the issue be that it's a cdrw?
10:16 < mpp> yes
10:16 < mpp> change it in the build
10:17 < mpp> cdrw should be fine
10:17 < mpp> it has the same device name
10:17 < mpp> u could also be rarely running into udev hotplug issues
10:17 < mpp> but that's another story - and i have no time now to go down that path
10:17 < mpp> it could take longer to fix
10:18 < csiadmin> mpp: np, I was thinking of just changing out the cd drive to see what happened :)
10:18 < mpp> might help but i doubt it
10:18 < mpp> is the cdrom also sata ?
10:19 < mpp> i used to take cdrom for installation some few years ago
10:19 < mpp> but - a tiny pxe t2 boot image does the job quite nice
10:19 < csiadmin> hmm, I'm don't think so but i'll check
10:19 < mpp> so i dropped cdrom installation once and for all
10:19 < csiadmin> what do you use for pxe? I've set up a clonezilla server here.
10:19 < mpp> besides installing t2 is trivial
10:20 < mpp> ahm
10:20 < mpp> just dhcp + tftpboot package
10:20 < mpp> thats all
10:20 < mpp> the pxe image + kernel are modified t2 rescue targets
10:20 < csiadmin> and then you just drop them in to /tftpboot
10:20 < mpp> sort of
10:21 < mpp> # /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/myconfig
10:21 < mpp> # /tftpboot/pxelinux.0
10:21 < mpp> and last but not least my t2 directory with vmlinuz + intird.img
10:21 < csiadmin> ahh I remember this, it worked here and still is working so I immediately forgot how to go about it :)
10:22 < mpp> it is very trivial and very effective
10:22 < mpp> i have automated build + pxe syncing
10:22 < mpp> along with some test directories
10:22 < mpp> and up ya go !
10:22 < mpp> csiadmin
10:22 < mpp> i have a fresh rescue image
10:23 < mpp> u might consider booting it - the old rescue image has lot's of diffs regarding /dev and stuff
10:23 < mpp> or build yourself a new one
10:23 < mpp> with recent packages
10:24 < csiadmin> sounds like it's worth a shot - but the old rescue image worked fine
10:24 < csiadmin> i'm just trying to work out where to modify the cd path for stage 2
10:27 < mpp> i'll check in my svn tree
10:27 < mpp> get back 2 u as soon as i found it
10:27 < mpp> find it
10:27 < csiadmin> appreciate your help mpp
10:27 < mpp> you're very welcome
10:28 < mpp> are u from the u.k. ?
10:28 < csiadmin> yep - you?
10:28 < mpp> germany
10:28 < mpp> just yesterday i had some delicious pg tips
10:28 < mpp> like that stuff
10:28 < csiadmin> hehe
10:30 < mpp> when i 'm done with t2 today i'll have some rounds of go on www.gokgs.com
10:30 < mpp> target/share/install
10:30 < mpp> is the way to got for you my friend
10:31 < mpp> the init looks like the place
10:31 < csiadmin> ahh
10:31 < mpp> yep
10:31 < mpp> /dev/cdrom
10:31 < mpp> replace that
10:31 < mpp> rebuild
10:31 < mpp> have a coup of tee
10:31 < mpp> :-) LOL
10:32 < csiadmin> lol
10:32 < mpp> i'm a joker some times
10:32 < mpp> i have learned to accept myself the way i am
10:32 < csiadmin> you still know your way around t2 though
10:32 < mpp> well i am average skilled regarding t2
10:33 < mpp> but i deal with it all the time
10:33 < csiadmin> i'm into my 2nd week of hacking it
10:33 < mpp> so it's naturally to get some insights
10:33 < mpp> good job !
10:33 < mpp> what distros do use otherwise if any ?
10:34 < csiadmin> not sure you'll talk to me after this - centos. rh, suse and *buntu...
10:34 < mpp> ubuntu is mine too
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10:34 < mpp> i have other things to do than maintaining testing regresssing packages on production machines
10:35 < mpp> so ubuntu / debian is good deal
10:35 < mpp> i used to go with slackware for many years - that's about it
10:35 < mpp> :-)
10:35 < csiadmin> I mainly had to go the rh/suse type route as I was previously employed by ibm
10:35 < mpp> ah i see
10:36 < mpp> suse + rh have some heavy distro specific patching issues
10:36 < mpp> the need to see a medic some time
10:36 < mpp> LOL !!!!
10:36 < csiadmin> yep and they're a long way behind package-wise!
10:36 < csiadmin> lol
10:36 < mpp> our customers also use those two because of support contracts and oem preinstalled stuff
10:37 < mpp> if you were with ibm u know the deal
10:37 < mpp> !
10:37 < csiadmin> exactly!
10:37 < mpp> i personally am quite satisfied with ubuntu / debian
10:37 < mpp> preseeding is very kickass installer
10:37 < csiadmin> i've ubuntu at home and it's never let me down
10:38 < mpp> kickstart with fedora rh is also nice
10:38 < mpp> likewise
10:38 < csiadmin> i'd looked at trying to use anaconda with a t2 build - but it's too rpm based
10:38 < mpp> ubuntu had some heavy funding from marc s.
10:38 < mpp> forget it
10:38 < mpp> once you deal with source packages it's a breeze
10:39 < csiadmin> my goal is to produce an os I can give to customers on a cd though
10:39 < mpp> btw u could unzip the rescue initrd mod it repack it
10:40 < mpp> beware that packaging with t2 is not the same as with ordinary dsitros
10:40 < csiadmin> yeah I've read through the archvista install.sh
10:40 < mpp> actually traditional packaging is not possible with t2
10:40 < mpp> but that's not its opp anyway
10:40 < mpp> original purpose i mean
10:41 < mpp> it is taylor made
10:41 < csiadmin> yeah I've manually removed stone and installed from the command line
10:41 < mpp> i compared an optimized t2 build with ubuntu out of the box openssl speed rsa2048
10:41 < mpp> to see the difference
10:41 < csiadmin> well?
10:41 < mpp> pick aguess
10:42 < csiadmin> hehe
10:42 < mpp> +/- 0
10:42 < mpp> so in terms of speed ubuntu is very good optimized with the same code running on diff hardware
10:43 < mpp> and the packages are fairly fresh support of 18months is good
10:43 < mpp> and the lts is also a way to go
10:43 < mpp> besides u can contract them anytime wiht the same code base for support
10:43 < csiadmin> my family are all ubuntu users
10:44 < mpp> :-)
10:44 < mpp> nice
10:44 < csiadmin> i didn't give them any chance of anything else
10:44 < csiadmin> ;)
10:44 < mpp> that's the way to go in live
10:44 < mpp> life
10:44 < mpp> damn my bad
10:44 < csiadmin> the only issue they've ever come to me about is printing
10:44 < mpp> i should use an autom. grammer plugin for irc
10:45 < mpp> how is that
10:45 < csiadmin> it's mainly open office - it displays differently on screen to how it prints
10:45 < mpp> ah...
10:46 < mpp> i can confirm that one
10:46 < csiadmin> so I just tell them not to print ;)
10:46 < mpp> LOL
10:46 < mpp> like a gui said once about php + mysql:
10:47 < mpp> if u don't have a propper progr.language what use is an unpropper database ?
10:47 < mpp> nothing !
10:47 < csiadmin> lol
10:47 < mpp> what can u do with windows - open them up and throw the garbage out of them !
10:48 < CIA-69> aldas * r34109 /trunk/package/audio/ (6 files in 5 dirs):
10:48 < CIA-69> * updated alsa-plugins (1.0.20 -> 1.0.21)
10:48 < CIA-69> * updated alsa-driver (1.0.20 -> 1.0.21)
10:48 < CIA-69> * updated alsa-lib (1.0.20 -> 1.0.21)
10:48 < CIA-69> * updated alsa-utils (1.0.20 -> 1.0.21)
10:48 < CIA-69> * updated alsa-tools (1.0.20 -> 1.0.21)
10:48 < csiadmin> lol
10:48 < jncneo> :D
10:48 < mpp> fixing and patching is multi billion $ business
10:49 < mpp> so we all are gratefull for buggy products - arent we ?
10:49 < mpp> LOL
10:49 < csiadmin> lol
10:49 < mpp> i'll grab some coffee bbs
10:49 < csiadmin> np
10:53 < CIA-69> aldas * r34110 /trunk/package/filesystem/xfsprogs/xfsprogs.desc: * updated xfsprogs (3.0.1 -> 3.0.3)
10:53 < mpp> re
10:53 < mpp> btw i am working on a gui target atm
10:54 < mpp> with the nec x-stuff and recent e17 packages mozilla etcetc
10:54 < csiadmin> cool - i'm working on a vod server
10:54 < mpp> vod ? ah
10:55 < mpp> i have to try out ext4 without journal - see how the iowait does
10:55 < mpp> that is important for streaming
10:55 < csiadmin> yeah i'm looking at reiserfs, xfs and jfs for the partition storing the movies
10:56 < mpp> remember hdparm -W1
10:56 < mpp> ;-)
10:56 < csiadmin> we've a test script here that should run a few hundred streams and make sure we get decent results
10:56 < mpp> cool
10:56 < mpp> another thing about the cdrom
10:57 < csiadmin> yeah
10:57 < mpp> it could be that the dev is not settled at the time the cdrom is trying to mount
10:57 < mpp> dev takes some time
10:57 < mpp> i mean udev
10:57 < csiadmin> hmm right so can I insert a wait?
10:58 < mpp> u should have a look at the order where udev is triggered
10:58 < csiadmin> ok will do
10:58 < mpp> i don't recall the installer behaviour anymore regarding this point
10:58 < mpp> in the end you could do a workaround as following:
10:59 < mpp> create a rescue recent rescue target as initramfs
10:59 < mpp> get the stuff with isolinux to boot
10:59 < mpp> and go on with installing from there
10:59 < mpp> it's kinda livecd but just the other way around
11:00 < mpp> you catch my drift - ?
11:00 < csiadmin> yeah I booted off a t2 2.6.27 cd then switched to my build and did an install but stage2 failed at the same point on reboot
11:00 < mpp> ah...
11:01 < mpp> try the rescue cd
11:01 < mpp> as i said above
11:01 < csiadmin> will do
11:01 < mpp> it's easily done and you circumvent the installer
11:01 < mpp> so in the future you will have less trouble
11:02 < mpp> = more spare time = more time do more of the other work LOL
11:03 < mpp> the downside of building cars to consume less fuel is that the depency on oil just lasts longer
11:03 < mpp> so no go there either LOL :-))
11:03 < csiadmin> agreed
11:03 < csiadmin> lol
11:03 < csiadmin> sorry mpp: how do I get the rescue stuff in?
11:04 < csiadmin> do I just choose a different config target
11:04 < mpp> u build a rescue target as initramfs
11:04 < mpp> nop u set up a new one
11:04 < csiadmin> can I do this in the config script?
11:04 < mpp> #copy the target/rescue to a
11:04 < mpp> nope
11:04 < mpp> make a new target/rescue-new
11:05 < mpp> copy the target/rescue/* there
11:05 < mpp> make a new config
11:05 < mpp> thats step one
11:05 < csiadmin> got it
11:06 < mpp> after that u have to get the stuff into a 3d dir wich will be prepared for isolinux
11:06 < mpp> conatining vmlinz+initrd + the installer stuff in a seperate directory ( on the cdrom later on)
11:07 < mpp> if had skype working we chat over the voip
11:07 < mpp> typing is a consuming task
11:07 < mpp> ties my hands a bit
11:07 < mpp> but i'm glad to help out
11:08 < mpp> besides - i keep learning all the time
11:08 < csiadmin> mpp: really do appreciate your help - none of this is in the handbook :)
11:08 < mpp> there are only students in this world - mpp 2009 (c)
11:08 < csiadmin> lol
11:09 < csiadmin> have just burnt my new image with /dev/cdrw - be back in a sec
11:09 < mpp> every student buffling you with new probs is your teacher
11:09 < mpp> k good luck
11:11 < mpp> speaking of handbook - searching http://t2-project.org/irclogs/index.html is good
11:11 < mpp> you can also google on that also get's u to the goal most of the time
11:12 < csiadmin> cool thx
11:12 < csiadmin> no joy - /dev/sr0 no medium found
11:12 < mpp> sorry
11:12 < mpp> about that
11:13 < csiadmin> np at least I know where to look now
11:13 < mpp> than it is the udev dev stuff
11:13 < mpp> cool
11:13 < mpp> i'll be around gotta do some stuff for my company now..
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11:14 < csiadmin> np
11:40 < rxr> re
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12:18 < CIA-69> rene * r34111 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-geode/xf86-video-geode.desc: * updated xf86-video-geode (2.11.3 -> 2.11.4)
12:42 < the_rainbow> hello there
12:44 < the_rainbow> does anyone know how to make the linux boot logo appears on all terminals and not just the first one?
12:57 < rxr> ?
12:57 < rxr> the tuxes?
13:04 < CIA-69> rene * r34112 /trunk/package/develop/diffstat/diffstat.desc: * updated diffstat (1.48 -> 1.49)
13:04 < CIA-69> rene * r34113 /trunk/package/contrib/directfb/directfb.desc: * updated directfb (1.4.1 -> 1.4.2)
13:09 < the_rainbow> yes the tuxes
13:10 < rxr> guess you could patch the kernel
13:10 < rxr> or use some other splash screen painting software
13:10 < the_rainbow> I know
13:10 < the_rainbow> I made my own logo and it appears fine but only on tty1
13:17 < rxr> dont' use the in-kernel stuff for logos :-)
13:17 < rxr> or patch in some more boot splashy thing
13:18 < rxr> but best use an appication that draws it
13:27 < mpp> csiadmin: how are you doing with the boot cdrom ?
13:28 < csiadmin> hey mpp: spent most of the morning researching modules and understanding the boot process
13:28 < CIA-69> rene * r34114 /trunk/package/perl/perl-anyevent/perl-anyevent.desc: * updated perl-anyevent (5.111 -> 5.112)
13:28 < CIA-69> rene * r34115 /trunk/package/gnustep/gnustep-base/gnustep-base.desc: * updated gnustep-base (1.19.2 -> 1.19.3)
13:28 < CIA-69> rene * r34116 /trunk/package/network/ipsec-tools/ipsec-tools.desc: * updated ipsec-tools (0.7.2 -> 0.7.3)
13:29 < CIA-69> rene * r34117 /trunk/package/develop/libnfsidmap/libnfsidmap.desc: * updated libnfsidmap (0.22 -> 0.23)
13:29 < the_rainbow> rxr: do you know any application that does that?
13:29 < rxr> splashy, usplash
13:29 < rxr> (my escreen, but that is more a prototype)
13:29 < rxr> or hackup fbterm if you want a terminal prompt all in user-space
13:30 < rxr> or the bootsplash patch from suse et al.
13:30 < rxr> the question is how importnt it is
13:30 < CIA-69> rene * r34118 /trunk/package/filesystem/dmapi/dmapi.desc: * updated dmapi (2.2.9 -> 2.2.10)
13:30 < CIA-69> rene * r34119 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (1.82 -> 1.85)
13:31 < the_rainbow> rxr: Thanks, gonna check them out
13:31 < csiadmin> mpp: I've modified all the files in /target/share/install - just changing headers to I can see what's called when.
13:31 < mpp> cool
13:34 < csiadmin> mpp: last one I see is build_initrd.sh
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14:12 < jncneo> mpp: haven't you taken a look on my problem? I still have no guess how to solve it...
14:13 < mpp> sorry
14:13 < mpp> i obv missed something
14:13 < mpp> bring me up to speed plz
14:14 < mpp> ah ...
14:14 < mpp> /dev/sr0 i think right ?
14:14 < mpp> what was the device name of the cdrom with the rescue image ?
14:14 < mpp> /dev/hda maybe
14:15 < mpp> you 'll have to checkout that first
14:15 < mpp> in doubt ... boot with the rescue image - dmesg should spit out where the cdrom lives
14:16 < mpp> could be /dev/cdrom /dev/hda or /dev/hdc
14:16 < mpp> something like that
14:19 < jncneo> i mean a problem with acl compiling...
14:35 < CIA-69> rene * r34120 /trunk/package/perl/perl-date-calc/perl-date-calc.desc: * updated perl-date-calc (5.6 -> 5.7)
14:35 < CIA-69> rene * r34121 /trunk/package/perl/perl-bit-vector/perl-bit-vector.desc: * updated perl-bit-vector (6.9 -> 7.0)
14:35 < rxr> jncneo: in stage 1 I guess?
14:35 < rxr> jncneo: libtool using the wrong library ?
14:39 < jncneo> rxr: i don't think it's libtool... here is error message:
14:39 < jncneo> i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc: /root/t2-trunk/build/default-8.0-trunk-wildix-distro-x86-geodelx-linux/usr/lib/libintl.a: No such file or directory
14:39 < jncneo> make[1]: *** [setfacl] Error 1
14:41 < rxr> ah that uclibc thing
14:41 < jncneo> i've found that gawk package chould have libintl.a but it doesn't exist...
15:14 < mpp> jncneo: sorry overlooked some stuff
15:15 < mpp> it's kinda multitasking - day over here
15:15 < jncneo> no problem...
15:15 < mpp> so where did i left u
15:15 < mpp> ?
15:15 < jncneo> acl doesn't compiles :)
15:16 < mpp> acl ....
15:16 < jncneo> i couldn't find a libintl.a file...
15:16 < mpp> k
15:17 < mpp> hang on .. ( thank god there is virtualiziation today )
15:17 < mpp> i'll have to check on one of my build hosts
15:17 < jncneo> :) i'm waiting no problem
15:17 < mpp> ru on svn head trunk
15:19 < mpp> ?
15:22 < mpp> acl on my side has no libintl.a
15:22 < mpp> grep -iRls 'libintl' /var/adm/flists/*
15:22 < mpp> /var/adm/flists/dietlibc
15:22 < mpp> /var/adm/flists/gawk
15:22 < mpp> /var/adm/flists/gettext
15:22 < mpp> /var/adm/flists/glibc
15:22 < mpp> /var/adm/flists/perl
15:23 < mpp> those packages have it in them
15:23 < mpp> what was the exact error u got with acl
15:23 < mpp> maybe u can dig the error-log
15:25 < mpp> ah sorry
15:25 < mpp> i have no embedded target
15:25 < mpp> so i cannot help u with this one
15:25 < mpp> but there are other here dealing with embedded target
15:26 < mpp> maybe they can help
15:26 < mpp> maybe this patch is obsolete
15:26 < mpp> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/acl-uclibc.patch
15:27 < mpp> or it is a recent regression
15:27 < mpp> ( more likely afaikt)
15:37 < jncneo> sorry, was afk...
15:37 < mpp> np
15:37 < jncneo> i've applied patch you gave me link to...
15:38 < jncneo> and i've used last svn revision...
15:41 < jncneo> i'll try now to make a build without patch... maybe it's really could be helpful...
15:42 < mpp> it's worth a shot
15:42 < mpp> :-)
15:43 < jncneo> ;)
15:45 < mpp> bye
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17:05 < csiadmin> anyone ever seen this...
17:05 < csiadmin> INSTALL DYNLIB /usr/src/t2-trunk/src/Linux-x86_64/bash/luabash.so
17:05 < csiadmin> ./scripts/Config: line 124: enable: cannot open shared object src/luabash.so: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by src/luabash.so)
17:05 < csiadmin> Failed to enable the LUA bash accelerator
18:02 < jncneo> seen it about hour ago
18:03 < jncneo> fixed with checkout latest svn revision, ./scripts/Cleanup and then ./scripts/Config
18:42 < csiadmin> jncneo: thx I was just about to kill the box ;)
18:44 < csiadmin> hmm, just updated and it's still the same
18:45 < csiadmin> still, it'll wait until morning. thx
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19:18 < CIA-69> rene * r34122 /trunk/package/security/samhain/samhain.desc: * updated samhain (2.5.5 -> 2.5.8)
19:19 < CIA-69> rene * r34123 /trunk/package/kde/kipi-plugins/kipi-plugins.desc: * updated kipi-plugins (0.4.0 -> 0.6.0)
19:19 < CIA-69> rene * r34124 /trunk/package/x11/xdaliclock/xdaliclock.desc: * updated xdaliclock (2.29 -> 2.30)
19:20 < CIA-69> rene * r34125 /trunk/package/security/libfwbuilder/libfwbuilder.desc: * updated libfwbuilder (3.0.5 -> 3.0.6)
19:31 < koan> strange, I have installed my freshly built t2 trunk desktop, but it has no bunzip2, so the Download script fails and I cannot Emerge-Pkg any package
19:32 < koan> isn't bunzip2 supposed to be in there?
19:41 < koan> oh right, I remember that building bzip2 gave the "cp: preserving times for `/usr/lib64/libbz2.so.1.0': Function not implemented" error
19:41 < koan> so that turns out not to be an error I could ignore...
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21:31 < CIA-69> mtr * r34126 /trunk/package/perl/perl/ (install.patch.cross perl.conf):
21:31 < CIA-69> * rediffed perl cross build patch for 5.10.1
21:31 < CIA-69> * tweaked and aligned cross build bootstrap
22:03 < CIA-69> mtr * r34127 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/ (6 files):
22:03 < CIA-69> * removed a set of obsolete/non-applying uClibc package patches
22:03 < CIA-69> (nfs-utils acl samba alsa-utils coreutils util-linux)
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