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08:18 < sepp> moin :)
08:34 < mtr> moin moin sepp :)
08:34 < sepp> moin mtr :)
08:37 < rxr> re
08:37 < rxr> moin sepp, mtr and valentin
08:37 < mtr> moin rxr
08:38 < sepp> moin rxr :)
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08:55 < CIA-9> rene * r24788 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (1.30 -> 1.31)
08:56 < CIA-9> susan * r24789 /trunk/package/xorg/libxfont/libxfont.desc: * updated libxfont (1.2.8 -> 1.2.9)
08:56 < sepp> who wants to fix popt to not emit libdir='/usr/lib6464' into its .la? :)
08:57 < rxr> oh does it ?
08:57 < sepp> libtool scares me
08:57 < sepp> yes
08:57 < CIA-9> susan * r24790 /trunk/package/editors/zile/zile.desc: * updated zile (2.2.34 -> 2.2.35)
08:57 < rxr> you saw I fixed it to install into lib64
08:57 < rxr> does this not also fix the .la ?
08:57 < sepp> no, in latest trunk
08:58 < sepp> trunk r24787
08:59 < rxr> sepp: yes, libtool is a utter shit :-(((
08:59 < rxr> that is why latest T2/trunk just removes .la files on cross-build
08:59 < rxr> cross-builds
08:59 < rxr> what we could even do is, test if we get any regression if we remove .la files, always!
09:00 < CIA-9> rene * r24791 /trunk/package/network/cobbler/cobbler.desc: * updated cobbler (0.4.8 -> 0.5.0)
09:00 < rxr> maybe all packages build without the crap and we do no longer have to tinker with broken .la files at all :-)))
09:01 < sepp> :)
09:02 < CIA-9> susan * r24792 /trunk/package/network/libupnp/libupnp.desc: * updated libupnp (1.4.6 -> 1.6.0)
09:18 < rxr> sepp: simple solution for popt, pass the usrlibdir also to makeopt :-)
09:18 < rxr> popt.conf :_)))
09:18 < sepp> ahh, nice
09:19 < CIA-9> susan * r24793 /trunk/package/audio/libgpod/libgpod.desc: * updated libgpod (0.5.0 -> 0.5.2)
09:25 < rxr> sepp: just commit if it works for you
09:25 < CIA-9> susan * r24794 /trunk/package/base/libdaemon/libdaemon.desc: * updated libdaemon (0.10 -> 0.11)
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09:32 < sepp> yup, works
09:35 < CIA-9> sebastian * r24795 /trunk/package/base/popt/popt.conf: * changed popt to append makeopt $libdir to not emit lib6464 into .la
09:39 < sepp> glibc32 has no headerfiles e.g. no stubs-32.h
09:42 < rxr> glibc was suppost to install them both
09:42 < rxr> is that a fresh rebuild?
09:43 < rxr> I ask because I had one modification for this on my working copy but did not remeber what it was needed for ...
09:43 < sepp> glibc (64) has only stubs{-64,}.h
09:43 < rxr> hm hm
09:43 < sepp> fresh rebuild from r24787
09:44 < rxr> ok - then I know what my local modification was good for ...
09:44 < sepp> hehe
09:44 < sepp> i thought glibc32 would ship that
09:44 < CIA-9> rene * r24796 /trunk/package/base/glibc32/glibc32.conf:
09:44 < CIA-9> * enformce minimal optimization for glibc32 on x86-64 builds
09:44 < CIA-9> with just generic optmization (due TLS atomic ops)
09:45 < rxr> glib32 has no header at all
09:45 < sepp> yes i saw that :) already have no stubs-32.h on my running system, so i was not sure
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09:46 < rxr> hm
09:46 < rxr> sepp: glibc.conf shoudl create the stubs-32 in line 90
09:47 < sepp> hmm
09:50 < sepp> i will rebuild 5-glibc with xtrace
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10:24 < sepp> weird, now it is in the flist
10:24 < sepp> 1st it was there (touched) but not in the flist
10:29 < rxr> wired
10:36 < sepp> cosmic rays :)
10:42 < rxr> maybe the glowing debries of chinese space missles ...
10:43 < rxr> http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/air_space/4218443.html?page=1
10:56 < sepp> :)
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14:19 < rxr> re
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15:01 < CIA-9> rene * r24797 /trunk/package/x11/metisse/ (. metisse.cache metisse.desc): * added metisse (0.4.0-rc4) - An experimental X desktop with OpenGL capacity
15:01 < rxr> lol, now this is a super package:
15:01 < rxr> -- Found Subversion (svn): /usr/bin/svn
15:01 < rxr> Subversion (svn) command line not found, it is recommended to install it
15:01 < rxr> loving it
15:22 < Cyda> Hey guys I have what might sound like a stupid question but my googling is not bringing me any closer to answers
15:22 < Cyda> I created an embedded target and it built a rootfs.squashfs image and am not sure about how to boot that with grub
15:23 < Cyda> I would ideally like to have it use /dev/ram0 as its root
15:23 < rxr> you need the boot the kernel and initrd image from build/.../boot
15:24 < rxr> the embeded target is meant for embedded boards where you place those files on a board, not for x86 monster machines ...
15:24 < Cyda> it didnt build an initrd, just a vmlinuz
15:24 < rxr> did you disable it?
15:24 < rxr> I think you should get an initrd by defaul
15:24 < rxr> t
15:25 < Cyda> i dnt remeber disabling it
15:25 < Cyda> dont*
15:25 < kic-> it built a squashfs.image
15:26 < kic-> no initrd, that i could see
15:26 < Cyda> hey kic- ;-p
15:26 < rxr> hi you both
15:26 < kic-> heya
15:26 < rxr> you used trunk?
15:26 < Cyda> yeah
15:26 < kic-> rxr, all it built was this ..
15:27 < kic-> oops
15:27 < rxr> what exactly did you select? I would like to reproduce
15:27 < rxr> uclibc or dietlibc embedded ?
15:27 < kic-> nvm, /exec -o doesn't work
15:27 < rxr> which CPU ?
15:27 < kic-> uclibc
15:27 < kic-> x86-64
15:27 < Cyda> busybox, uclibc
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15:28 < kic-> 17 files transfered.
15:28 < kic-> Creating links for identical files ...
15:28 < kic-> 23 links created.
15:28 < kic-> Creating root filesystem image (squashfs) ...
15:28 < kic-> 52M /root/t2-trunk/build/small-7.0-trunk-embedded-x86-64-core2/TOOLCHAIN/rootfs
15:28 < kic-> 16M /root/t2-trunk/build/small-7.0-trunk-embedded-x86-64-core2/TOOLCHAIN/rootfs.squashfs
15:28 < kic-> The image is located at /root/t2-trunk/build/small-7.0-trunk-embedded-x86-64-core2/TOOLCHAIN/rootfs.squasfs.
15:28 < kic-> that was the last of the build process
15:28 < rxr> you selected livecd creation ?
15:28 < kic-> no
15:29 < kic-> erm
15:29 < kic-> actually
15:29 < kic-> the config didn't give creation options
15:29 < Cyda> i dont believe you get any options on what it creates
15:29 < rxr> yes, the embedded hard-forces "=none= Just create binary packages and isofs.txt"
15:29 < kic-> exactly
15:30 < rxr> ok - I will test that
15:30 < rxr> why did you choose embedded for x86-64 ?
15:30 < kic-> cause we're putting it on a flash
15:30 < rxr> embedded is more targetting board-support-packges for embedded boards
15:30 < kic-> and it will sit on an x86-64 monster, that has no Hard drives.. just a compact flash
15:30 < kic-> yeah, we know, we're gonna build one for ARM next
15:30 < rxr> (though of xourse it should nontheless work)
15:30 < kic-> if we can get hte x86 to work
15:31 < kic-> the build was successful though
15:31 < kic-> it created a rootfs
15:31 < kic-> and a squashfs image
15:31 < kic-> isn't that success?
15:31 < kic-> heh
15:32 < kic-> although, under the rootfs directory that it says its located, it does not have a boot directory, with a kernel
15:32 < rxr> I can imagine that grub could not be built on a pure 64bit uclibc bulid
15:32 < rxr> that is a quite ugly issue
15:33 < rxr> do you want to run read-only from the flash ?
15:33 < Cyda> nah we want to be able to rw the flash
15:36 < rxr> so you want a normal like ext2 FS on the flash that is IDE connected ?
15:38 < kic-> yep
15:38 < kic-> afk a sec
15:38 < rxr> then I strongly suggest to use the normal generic target and a minimal / custom package selection
15:39 < rxr> the embedded target is targetting very tiny boards and will give you more problems than solutions for your normal workstations++ class hardware
15:41 < Cyda> alright thanks for the info, i'll give that a shot
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15:45 < CIA-9> rene * r24798 /trunk/package/x11/xterm/xterm.desc: * updated xterm (226 -> 227)
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16:06 < pdinoto> rxr: the rescue target builds using glibc. I remember you told me that
16:06 < pdinoto> you changed that for a special build. Where should I revert that change?
16:06 < pdinoto> I want to try it with uclibc, if possible.
16:11 < rxr> I switched this for x86-64 builds as well as fuse-zfs
16:11 < rxr> fuse-zfs builds with uclibc - when patched - but does not work qutie right then
16:11 < rxr> you can edit: target/rescue/config.in
16:11 < rxr> change:
16:11 < rxr> SDECFGSET_LIBC='glibc'
16:11 < rxr> SDECFGSET_LIBC='uclibc'
16:12 < rxr> and the pkgsel, likewise
16:12 < pdinoto> oh, ok.
16:13 < rxr> you build for x86 or so ?
16:13 < pdinoto> I will reduce the packages to bare minimum, so fuse-zfs should not be a problem for me.
16:13 < rxr> because just using uclibc or dietlibc does not result in a bootable cd on 64bit builds due to the absense of a 32bit libc for grub
16:14 < pdinoto> yes, low power x86 (geode and the like), but x86.
16:43 < kic-> /whois cyrda
16:43 < kic-> oops
16:53 < sepp> /whois kic-
16:53 < sepp> :)
16:54 < kic-> heh
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17:23 < pdinoto> rxr: what would be the root password in rescue?
17:23 < pdinoto> I finished a standard build, and X is not starting (fonts missing, I think)
17:23 < kic-> bIgt3t4s
17:23 < kic-> or something
17:23 < kic-> :D
17:23 < kic-> jk, i dunno
17:23 < rxr> pdinoto: was'nt the root password just empty ?
17:24 < pdinoto> nope.
17:24 < pdinoto> will try with init=/bin/sh at boot...
17:26 < pdinoto> hmmm... I am inside the /mnt/live, and /etc/shadow has no password for root
17:26 < pdinoto> I guess something else is denying my login.
17:28 < CIA-9> rene * r24799 /trunk/package/python/itools/itools.desc: * updated itools (0.15.6 -> 0.16.0)
17:30 < rxr> pdinoto: I think the rootfs overlay passowrd injection is missing in trunk:HEAD
17:30 < rxr> in former times this was inserted by the generic livecd code, but we removed it because this is not part of the underlying live-technology, but depends to the target
17:30 < rxr> the rescue target must be fixed to inject the empty root password again
17:31 < rxr> or better, yet (maybe) to generiate a random password on livecd startup and print it in the login issue
17:31 < rxr> so only local people see it and remote people can not instantly login
17:32 < pdinoto> where does the password injection happens in generic?
17:33 < rxr> not in generic
17:33 < rxr> if at all in the desktop /rootfs/etc/ ... overlay
17:33 < pdinoto> oh, ok.
17:33 < rxr> one second I dig something out for the rescue case
17:34 < CIA-9> rene * r24800 /trunk/package/editors/zile/zile.desc: * updated zile (2.2.35 -> 2.2.36)
17:35 < rxr> btw. the change was in r23253
17:38 < rxr> hm
17:40 < rxr> pdinoto: svn up and Build-Target
17:40 < CIA-9> rene * r24801 /trunk/target/rescue/rootfs/etc/shadow: * reverted r23253, as the livecd does not implement policy, just mechanism
17:40 < rxr> the resulting iso should have an empty root hash
17:40 < pdinoto> ok... will try and let you know.
17:45 < rxr> :-)
17:45 < pdinoto> hmmm... now I am builing locally and saw this:
17:46 < pdinoto> Running mkfontscale / mkfontdir ...
17:46 < pdinoto> /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
17:46 < pdinoto> /etc/postinstall.d/xorg: line 21: mkfontscale: command not found
17:46 < pdinoto> I guess that is why X is not starting...
17:46 < rxr> aha
17:46 < rxr> yeah
17:55 < pdinoto> rxr: new build has empty password. thanks.
17:56 < rxr> :-)
17:56 < rxr> pdinoto: mkfontscale should be in the package selection list
17:56 < rxr> strange
17:56 < rxr> srange that it is not found when the post build stuff prepares the filesystem root
17:57 < rxr> maybe a PATH issue
17:57 < rxr> what distribution do you build on ?
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18:53 < rxr> heh - google for computex and you get: http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=461
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20:26 < tri> moin
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20:43 < tri> und wie gehts uns so ?
20:43 < tri> err
20:43 < tri> sorry wrong channel
20:44 < sepp> :)
20:44 < sepp> gut, und selbst?
20:44 < sepp> :p
20:44 < tri> auch gut ;-(
20:45 < tri> s/(/)
20:45 < tri> :-)
21:08 < Cyda> whats the best way to include my custom busybox config file?
21:11 < sepp> if you make your own target to can override it with target/foo/pkg_busybox.conf
21:12 < Cyda> ty
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21:42 < tri> http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/issues/01-02/01_02_booze_rules.htm
21:51 < Cyda> how about if i want to include my own busybox config in a generic target?
21:51 < Cyda> sepp, that didnt work out too well
21:54 < sepp> you made a target/generic/pkg_busybox.conf or what?
21:54 < Cyda> yeah
21:55 < Cyda> the config file was not read
21:55 < sepp> which one?
21:55 < sepp> the one in target/.../ ?
21:56 < Cyda> yes
21:56 < sepp> uhm
21:56 < Cyda> i did a make menuconfig in a busybox ( same version ) directory and copied the resulting .config file to targe/generic/pkg_busybox.conf
21:57 < sepp> make menuconfig?
21:57 < sepp> the kernel config thingy?
21:57 < Cyda> yeah busybox uses the same to make a custom one
21:58 < sepp> ohh, i thought you mean a t2 package .conf
21:58 < sepp> well, that will not work
21:58 < Cyda> ok now you lost me, i have a busybox config file and i want t2 to use it when building busybox
21:58 < Cyda> kinda like you can do the same thing with the kernel
21:59 < sepp> i misunderstood you 1st
21:59 < Cyda> thats cool, any ideas?
21:59 < sepp> i was not aware that there is a kernel like config for busybox
22:00 < Cyda> yeah you can choose what you want it to build
22:00 < sepp> like: O CONFIG_INSTALL_APPLET_SYMLINKS
22:01 < sepp> ?
22:01 < Cyda> well yeah but prettier
22:02 < sepp> if [ -e $targetdir/busybox.config ] ... "Adding busybox config from target dir"
22:02 < sepp> :)
22:02 < sepp> from package/base/busybox/busybox.conf
22:03 < Cyda> yeah i named it busybox.conf too ;-/
22:03 < sepp> then i dont know
22:03 < sepp> i never used busybox
22:03 < Cyda> busybox.config rather
22:04 < Cyda> alright, ty anyway
22:07 < sepp> maybe enable xtrace and look at the logfile
22:12 < sepp> rxr: i did a fresh rebuild from trunk r24798, 5-glibc does a touch .../stubs-{32,64}.h but -32 is not in the flist
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