T2 IRC Log: 2008-09-05

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--- Log opened Fri Sep 05 00:00:27 2008
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09:19 < rxr> re
09:30 < rxr> ehrm, if anyone has flash or co and wants to wath the worst add ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz6amk3P-hY
09:30 < rxr> ^ - have fun
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09:48 < CIA-8> rene * r30337 /trunk/package/xorg/libx11/libx11.desc: * updated libx11 (1.1.4 -> 1.1.5)
09:49 < CIA-8> rene * r30338 /trunk/package/develop/xapian-core/xapian-core.desc: * updated xapian-core (1.0.7 -> 1.0.8)
09:49 < CIA-8> rene * r30339 /trunk/package/develop/xapian-omega/xapian-omega.desc: * updated xapian-omega (1.0.7 -> 1.0.8)
09:50 < CIA-8> rene * r30340 /trunk/package/develop/monotone/monotone.desc: * updated monotone (0.39 -> 0.41)
09:50 < CIA-8> rene * r30341 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-i128/xf86-video-i128.desc: * updated xf86-video-i128 (1.3.0 -> 1.3.1)
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09:51 < CIA-8> rene * r30343 /trunk/package/xfce4/thunar-thumbnailers/thunar-thumbnailers.desc: * updated thunar-thumbnailers (0.4.0 -> 0.4.1)
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10:41 < mpp> moinmoin
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11:38 < Baldzius> moin
11:38 < mpp> moin baldzius
11:39 < Baldzius> hey mpp
11:39 < mpp> so how is it going mate ..
11:44 < Baldzius> thanks, quite fine
11:44 < Baldzius> yourself?
11:58 < CIA-8> mtr * r30344 /trunk/package/office/openoffice-org/ (14 files in 2 dirs):
11:58 < CIA-8> * updated openoffice-org (2.4.0 -> 2.4.1)
11:58 < CIA-8> * added selected patches from ooo-build project:
11:58 < CIA-8> build with system nss/nspr and xulrunner 1.9,
11:58 < CIA-8> gcc43 and system bdb usage
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12:08 < CIA-8> mtr * r30345 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution/evolution-conf.in:
12:08 < CIA-8> * simplify evolution ssl/smime support, use any Mozilla nss
12:08 < CIA-8> library available
12:09 < CIA-8> mtr * r30346 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-data-server/evolution-data-server.desc:
12:09 < CIA-8> * changed evolution-data-server build priority (151.100 -> 153.040):
12:09 < CIA-8> build after Mozilla & Co.
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12:13 < rxr> hi all
12:15 < mpp> hey look who's here
12:16 < mpp> moin
12:21 < CIA-8> mtr * r30347 /trunk/package/network/pump/off-by-one.patch: * fixed pump: off-by-one array access, also fixes build with gcc43
12:26 < mpp> when i build a package with Build-Pkg -cfg xxx -5 packagename
12:26 < mpp> where does the built package get stored ?
12:26 < mpp> i assumed it would be inside the build/target-xxx/.... ?
12:29 < rxr> nope :-)
12:29 < rxr> Build-Pkg without -job builds into the runnign system, just as Emerge
12:29 < rxr> infact before we had Emerge-Pkg Build-Pkg was the only way to install source packages
12:30 < rxr> Build-Pkg became the "stripped down workhorse, used for a single build", while Build-Target and Emerge-Pkg are the end-user frontends ...
12:30 < rxr> Build-Target for whole system builds, and Emerge-Pkg (named that way to let Gentoo'ers feel at home) for in-system builds with dependency resolution
12:31 < mpp> okay thanx for clarification
12:31 < mpp> i fixed the rocknet dhcp issue
12:31 < mpp> was quite simple
12:33 < mpp> i fixe the /lib/rocknet/dhcpcd.sh
12:33 < rxr> patch ?
12:33 < mpp> ill submit offcourse
12:33 < rxr> :-)
12:34 < rxr> btw. we offer write access sooner than you might want :-)
12:34 < mpp> working on t2 is really cool
12:34 < rxr> you're welcome :-)
12:34 < mpp> i m a little stumbled about svn and patching
12:34 < mpp> need to do 1 hour of reading in the necessary tools
12:34 < mpp> dif patch svn
12:35 < mpp> i also patched the kernel to use data=journal
12:35 < mpp> cause the system script messes with the rootfs stuff
12:35 < mpp> and it's to diversed to fix the system rootfs for me
12:35 < mpp> so i am into patching a target which is specially for a speedy build host
12:36 < mpp> :-)
12:36 < rxr> yeah this rootfs remounting is quite a hazzle ...
12:36 < mpp> btw the ext4dev stuff - i dropped it
12:36 < rxr> it's on my whiteboard, as soon as I have a little more air to breathe I'll review this
12:36 < rxr> btw. if you want to feel experimental I would bet me money on btrfs rather than reiser4 or ext4 these days ...
12:36 < mpp> there are quite tweaks necessary to t2 to get mounting it propper
12:36 < mpp> but anyways
12:37 < mpp> with my ext3 patch
12:37 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/zine/1/
12:37 < mpp> the system flies
12:37 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/btrfs-progs.html
12:37 < mpp> yea i read that one of course
12:37 < mpp> ;-)
12:37 < rxr> http://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page
12:37 < rxr> btw. t2 Zine articles welcome
12:37 < mpp> i hereby officialy apply for volunteer dev on t2
12:37 < mpp> :-)
12:37 < rxr> maybe I should get some t2 mugs done or so to hand out as "bounty" :-)
12:38 < mpp> yep
12:38 < mpp> can i setup a subdomain related to t2 ?
12:38 < rxr> sure, if you like
12:38 < mpp> i would then setup a wiki a mtn and a forum
12:38 < mpp> yes
12:38 < mpp> how would you like it to be done in terms of domain naming
12:38 < rxr> sure, I can also provide official DNS pointers, like wiki.t2-project.org or so
12:39 < mpp> a pointer to t2-project maybe
12:39 < mpp> i would rather make a whole subdomain where i keep all the stuff
12:39 < mpp> if you're okay whith that ..
12:39 < rxr> sure, as you like
12:40 < mpp> okay - so what's the baby's name then ?
12:40 < rxr> we also have t2-powered.net, reserved some years ago to promote t2 based stuff, distributions and devices etc.
12:40 < mpp> hmm....
12:40 < mpp> sounds cool
12:40 < rxr> when you setup the stuff you probably find a nice name on the way ._9
12:40 < mpp> we could use mpp.t2-powered.net
12:41 < mpp> so others can join like rxr.t2-powered.net and so on ?....
12:42 < mpp> ill give it some thought ...
12:42 < mpp> for now ill setup the whole stuff on my rootserver
12:42 < rxr> I think I would prefer that under the t2-project.org domain
12:42 < rxr> but I guess it's time to setup something real on t2-powered.net
12:44 < mpp> agreed
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12:58 < CIA-8> mtr * r30348 /trunk/package/network/curl/ (curl.conf curl.desc):
12:58 < CIA-8> * fixed curl to build with ssl support, requires manual download
12:58 < CIA-8> of certificates
13:01 < CIA-8> mtr * r30349 /trunk/package/network/pureftpd/pureftpd.init: * added pureftpd sysv init script
13:02 < rxr> why is the download manual ?
13:03 < CIA-8> mtr * r30350 /trunk/package/network/wu-ftpd/ (wu-ftpd.conf wu-ftpd.desc): * fixed wu-ftpd to cross compile and set CROSS tag
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13:06 < CIA-8> mtr * r30351 /trunk/package/network/dhcp/rocknet_dhcp.sh: * fixed rocknet dhcp script to enable $if before starting dhclient
13:07 < mpp> ge
13:07 < mpp> just patched the rocknet dhcpcd.sh
13:07 < mpp> i ll resync with svn and see if the new rocknet dhcp finally works
13:09 < mpp> @rxr
13:09 < mpp> e2fsprogs still doesn't build
13:09 < mpp> i tried also on a clean svn checkout
13:10 < mpp> this prevents me from updating my svn
13:10 < mpp> ../lib/libext2fs.so: undefined reference to `_et_list'
13:10 < mpp> ../lib/libext2fs.so: undefined reference to `com_err'
13:10 < mpp> ../lib/libext2fs.so: undefined reference to `error_message'
13:10 < mpp> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
13:11 < mpp> ld: warning: libcom_err.so.2, needed by ../lib/libext2fs.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
13:11 < mpp> this sucks
13:13 < rxr> yes, I saw it myself will look soon
13:13 < rxr> (you should not have pointed me to the update and we would still have the old version :-)
13:14 < mpp> i accept consequences - thats what i do
13:14 < mpp> could you write me a short node how this svn / patching thing works
13:15 < mpp> and how it should be done for t2
13:15 < rxr> what exactly do you mean?
13:15 < mpp> prio low
13:15 < rxr> if you had write access ?
13:15 < mpp> yes
13:17 < mpp> ge madwifi still messes
13:20 < rxr> ok -c u
13:21 < mpp> bye
13:32 < mtr> moin
13:32 < mpp> mionsen
13:32 < mpp> moinsen :-)
13:33 < mtr> moin moin :)
13:34 < mtr> rxr: I'd like to change qmails user id's, but that would break existing qmail installations/queues, so emerging it wouldn't be a good idea
13:35 < mtr> the currently allocated uid's are in the range 20..26
13:37 < mtr> what collides with commonly used video, audio, lp, et.al. uid/gid's
14:08 < mpp> curl complains
14:09 < mpp> i dled the cert manuall and copied it to cacert-bundle-0.bz2
14:09 < mpp> curl builds now
14:09 < mpp> for e2fsprogs folks
14:09 < mpp> you can copy the .0 version to the .1 manually
14:10 < mpp> that builds the e2fsprogs fine even with revision > 30302
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14:41 < bfg_> Hi there
14:41 < bfg_> mpp: I posted today a patch to the t2-project mailinglist, to fix e2fsprog build....
14:41 < bfg_> just drop this patch file in the e2fsprog package folder
14:42 < bfg_> I posted it to the mailinglist, because I am not sure how to handle such short term fixes...
14:42 < mpp> okay thanx
14:42 < bfg_> in the git repository of the e2fsprog project, are already some patches which might fix this issue
14:43 < bfg_> but it is done in a complete different way than my patch
14:43 < bfg_> so the next e2fsprog release should be fine again ( i hope :) )
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15:15 < mtr> mpp: curl complains when downloading or compiling?
15:16 < mpp> yep about a certificat
15:17 < mtr> in theory it should build even without the cacert.pem.bz2 file in download/local/c
15:17 < mpp> the url in the packet is incorrect
15:17 < mpp> but it doesnt
15:17 < mpp> at least on the current revision
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15:19 < mpp> rocknet still blows dhcp
15:20 < mpp> with dhclient
15:24 < mtr> hmm, curl tells about the missing file and instructs to download manually
15:24 < mtr> Downloading curl:download/local/c/cacert-bundle-0.bz2 ...
15:24 < mtr> The file cacert-bundle-0.bz2 can not be fetched automatically
15:24 < mtr> please visit: http://curl.haxx.se/ca/cacert.pem.bz2
15:25 < mtr> do you think it would be better to download automatically?
15:27 < mtr> the intention was to avoid checksum mismatches, as the cert filename is not unique
15:33 < CIA-8> aldas * r30352 /trunk/package/security/snort/snort.desc: * updated snort (2.8.2.2 -> 2.8.3)
15:33 < CIA-8> aldas * r30353 /trunk/package/mail/postfix/postfix.desc: * updated postfix (2.5.4 -> 2.5.5)
15:34 < CIA-8> aldas * r30354 /trunk/package/filesystem/xfsprogs/xfsprogs.desc: * updated xfsprogs (2.9.8 -> 2.10.1)
15:34 < CIA-8> aldas * r30355 /trunk/package/x11/fluxbox/fluxbox.desc: * updated fluxbox (1.0.0 -> 1.1.0.1)
15:41 < mtr> mpp: what is the problem with rocknet and dhcp?
15:42 < mtr> I commited a change to the rocknet/dhcp script to ensure that the network interface status is up
15:42 < mtr> before dhclient is started
15:42 < mtr> r30351
15:51 < mpp> yes
15:51 < mpp> seem that sbin/dhclient in the system script is not running
15:51 < mpp> i checked after login
15:51 < mpp> if is up
15:51 < mpp> but dhclient is not
16:12 < mtr> any messages in your syslog?
16:13 < mtr> before the change dhclient wrote to syslog: "dhclient: Can't get list of interfaces."
16:23 < rxr> mtr: append a data as we do with so many other files
16:25 < mpp> mtr
16:25 < mpp> cant create /var/db/dhclient.lease
16:26 < mpp> cant create /var/db/dhclient.leases
16:26 < mpp> hey rxr
16:26 < mpp> what kind of hook do i need for applying a patch to a packet befor building it ?
16:27 < rxr> manual download was mostly intended for "save from web frontend after acknowleding some license", ...
16:27 < rxr> to apply a patch?
16:27 < rxr> just drop the file into the package dir with a .patch extension and it's automatically applied
16:28 < rxr> mtr: just append a data there, as we do for hddtemp or pciid files ...
16:31 < CIA-8> rene * r30356 /trunk/package/kde/ (25 files in 25 dirs): (log message trimmed)
16:31 < CIA-8> * updated kdebase-runtime (4.1.0 -> 4.1.1)
16:31 < CIA-8> * updated kdepimlibs (4.1.0 -> 4.1.1)
16:31 < CIA-8> * updated kde-i18n-de (4.1.0 -> 4.1.1)
16:31 < CIA-8> * updated kdeartwork (4.1.0 -> 4.1.1)
16:31 < CIA-8> * updated kdelibs (4.1.0 -> 4.1.1)
16:31 < CIA-8> * updated kdetoys (4.1.0 -> 4.1.1)
16:32 < mpp> great
16:33 < mpp> rebuilding patch package
16:33 < mpp> this is fun
16:33 < mpp> so what would be the next step to commit to svn ?
16:33 < mpp> ill pastebin the patch so you can have a look
16:33 < mpp> cause im a noob to patchworld
16:36 < mpp> http://pastebin.com/m6cfe260f
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16:37 < mpp> i would like to commit my target
16:40 < rxr> ah - that patch
16:40 < rxr> what target do you want to commit? the general pxe one or some quick builder thing ?=
16:40 < mpp> the later one
16:40 < rxr> ah
16:41 < mpp> i will also include modified network startup nano mc and so on
16:41 < mpp> for noobs
16:41 < rxr> the question is, if it's doing much good if it's shipped as t2 example by default
16:41 < rxr> maybe it's time to add a 2nd svn repository with "not so often used, but nice to have" add-on target
16:41 < mpp> thats cool
16:42 < mpp> i would like others to easy get on with t2
16:42 < mpp> if u are ok whith it
16:42 < mpp> i would also commit the pxe-rescue
16:42 < rxr> I would prefer some new "miscaliation other contributions" targets
16:43 < rxr> otherwise it gets more work to maintain the shipped ones by default up-to-date
16:43 < mpp> ?
16:43 < mpp> i could sync those and see if the built
16:43 < mpp> i have at least one dedicated server for this purpose
16:44 < mpp> i mean building
16:44 < mpp> whats that >>miscaliation
16:44 < mpp> ?
16:45 < CIA-8> mtr * r30357 /trunk/package/network/curl/curl.desc:
16:45 < CIA-8> * changed curl ca-cert download protocol from manual:// to http://,
16:45 < CIA-8> appended current date to filename
16:47 < mtr> agreed, the manual:// stuff is a hassle
17:13 < mpp> .
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17:15 < rxr> mtr: miscalanious or so - sorry
17:15 < rxr> I'll open a t2-targets repository soonish
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17:24 < mpp> miscellanious
17:24 < mpp> ge
17:24 < mpp> i pushed google real hard
17:24 < mpp> to find that one
17:24 < mpp> but finaly
17:25 < mpp> thanx dude
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17:34 < mtr> anybody knows how to monitor and dump traffic from RS232 ports?
17:36 < mpp> not atm
17:39 < rxr> mtr: there was some freshmeat project
17:39 < rxr> serialsniff whatever :-)
18:11 < mpp> hey rxr
18:11 < mpp> i found a bug in dhcpcd package
18:11 < mpp> the path /usr/sbin/dhcpcd should be /sbin/dhpcd
18:12 < mpp> package/network/dhcpcd/rocknet_dhcpcd.sh
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19:20 < CIA-8> rene * r30358 /trunk/package/kde/kdebase-runtime/kdebase-runtime.desc: * added missing Download checksum to kdebase-runtime
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21:47 < mpp> hey baldzius
21:47 < Baldzius> hey
21:48 < mpp> so whats up
21:51 < Baldzius> nothing much, returned after playing the bowling and pool
21:51 < Baldzius> kicked everyone's ass :)
21:52 < mpp> you re the man baldi
21:52 < mpp> sorry baldzius
21:52 < mpp> :-(
21:52 < mpp> an on t2 ?
21:53 < Baldzius> over 3k commits in 3 years
21:54 < mpp> yo u are the man
21:54 < Baldzius> not much comparing to rxr :)
21:54 < Baldzius> i think he does 3k in a year
21:55 < mpp> yea he is da brain
21:55 < Baldzius> ack
21:55 < Baldzius> so how's e2fsprogs and dhclient thing goes?
21:57 < mpp> dhclient is missing /var/db/
21:57 < mpp> e2fsprogs needs to be patched
21:57 < mpp> i did some workarounds to have my build done
21:57 < mpp> right now i m poking around with ext4
21:57 < mpp> mount refuses
21:58 < mpp> mkfs does fine
21:58 < mpp> another digging in the source
21:58 < Baldzius> yeah i saw that you are trying to get ext4dev support
21:58 < Baldzius> this is really nice
21:58 < mpp> support is on
21:59 < Baldzius> i am actually waiting to try it and btrfs
21:59 < mpp> question is why mounting fails
21:59 < mpp> waiting ?
21:59 < mpp> for what
21:59 < mpp> ...
21:59 < Baldzius> which stage it fails?
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22:00 < mpp> at none
22:00 < mpp> at the runnign system
22:00 < mpp> mount says wrong fs type
22:00 < mpp> mkfs.ext4dev runs
22:01 < mpp> EXT4-fs: loop0: Filesystem with huge files cannot be mounted read-write without CONFIG_LSF
22:01 < mpp> wth
22:01 < mpp> ?
22:01 < mpp> readonly functions
22:02 < mpp> another super.c patch...
22:02 < mpp> second one today
22:03 < mpp> kernel need LSF enabled
22:03 < mpp> it's not on by default
22:03 < mpp> do you know how to pass config params to the kernel package ?
22:04 < Baldzius> hm
22:04 < Baldzius> forgot :)
22:04 < mpp> i mean after all the prepocessing stuff and before it is built
22:05 < mpp> in the kernel.conf of the target i gues
22:05 < Baldzius> i don't remember what i did when i need ext3 built-in because for some reason initrd could get jbd loaded
22:05 < Baldzius> not sure, could be
22:06 < Baldzius> s/could/couldn't/
22:10 < mpp> building now
22:10 < mpp> t2 is fun
22:18 < Baldzius> ack
22:19 < mpp> i have no vm's with t2
22:20 < mpp> wor building an snapshotrewing
22:20 < mpp> prior to that i was experimenting and messing the host sometimes
22:20 < mpp> geee.
22:21 < mpp> whe ext4 is on ill include it with my target
22:31 < mpp> ah - as ext4 wiki states - big patchset is advised for the 2.6.26 kernel
22:31 < mpp> hm.. gotta wait with this one
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