T2 IRC Log: 2007-06-16
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--- Log opened Sat Jun 16 00:00:18 2007
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03:57 < kic-> anyone here that administrates the mailing list?
03:57 < kic-> i tried to subscribe, but spam checker bounced it back to me, scored to high
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08:44 < rxr> re
08:44 < rxr> kic_: yes - me
08:50 < CIA-9> rene * r24578 /trunk/package/archiver/dpkg/dpkg.desc: * updated dpkg (1.14.3 -> 1.14.4)
09:05 < rxr> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9024559
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09:13 < rxr> kic-: which filter rules scored for you?
09:13 < rxr> this should be in the mail header
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09:22 < tri> moin
09:27 < rxr> moin tri
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09:49 < CIA-9> rene * r24583 /trunk/package/base/glibc/arm-old-abi.patch: * fixed non-EABI ARM build of glibc
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09:51 < rxr> hi DeeKey
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09:57 < DeeKey> hello to ALL
09:59 < DeeKey> I have recently started using t2 project after unsuccessful attempts with OE
09:59 < DeeKey> my aim is to create small sized embedded distro based on RTAI.
10:00 < rxr> RTAI the real-time patchset ?
10:00 < DeeKey> t2 seems to support both RTAI and comedi right out of the box. But unfortunately both comedi and RTAI are outdated..
10:01 < DeeKey> rxr: YES RTAI is a hard real time patch.
10:01 < rxr> yeah - that was the next thing I wanted to say
10:01 < rxr> these two patches are unfortunatly areas that did not receive much attention in T2 in the past
10:01 < rxr> I guess OE has no support for neither, has it?
10:02 < rxr> would be very nice if you could just update what you need
10:02 < rxr> the rest of T2 should be a a pretty up-to-date and good shape
10:02 < DeeKey> There are no support for comedi and RTAI in OE
10:02 < DeeKey> HA, that what I am trying to do
10:03 < rxr> :-)
10:04 < DeeKey> but now I faced some troubles compiling Embedded-GENERIC distro...
10:04 < DeeKey> the build is failed on building Building archiver/tar
10:05 < DeeKey> could someone help me solve this issue?
10:06 < rxr> you build for x86, right ?
10:06 < DeeKey> yes
10:06 < rxr> I would only use embedded when you want to cross build very minimal system
10:06 < DeeKey> building on Ubuntu Feisty (7.04)
10:06 < rxr> better use the generic target with a minimal package selection template
10:06 < rxr> that is way more easier to build
10:07 < rxr> building on ubuntu should just work
10:08 < DeeKey> Actually I am going to build my own stripped to minimum distro.
10:08 < DeeKey> I used WRT as a template, and created pksel file to select packages I need.
10:09 < rxr> ah ok
10:09 < rxr> that sound good as well
10:09 < rxr> can you post your exact build error to take a look what's going on ?
10:09 < rxr> you use trunk or 7.0 I guess?
10:09 < rxr> or the older 6.0 branch ?
10:09 < DeeKey> the first one (7)
10:10 < DeeKey> from SVN
10:11 < DeeKey> I will post it to postbin not to mess the channel... Just forget the URL....
10:11 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org
10:11 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Sat Jun 2 08:21:00 2007]
10:14 < DeeKey> hmmm the url of postbin (or whatever) just went out of my mind... :( I will post the output here...
10:14 < DeeKey> == 22:25:18 =[1]=> Building archiver/tar [1.17 7.0-trunk].
10:14 < DeeKey> -> Reading package config: package/archiver/tar/tar.conf
10:14 < DeeKey> -> Preparing build in src.tar.system.20070615.222517.32289.embeded
10:14 < DeeKey> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-tar.out
10:14 < DeeKey> !> mv -f .deps/xstrtoumax.Tpo .deps/xstrtoumax.Po
10:14 < DeeKey> !> i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -g -O2 -MT paxerror. ..
10:14 < DeeKey> !> In file included from ./system.h:441,
10:15 < DeeKey> !> from paxerror.c:19:
10:15 < DeeKey> !> ./sys/time.h:49: error: conflicting types for 'restrict'
10:15 < DeeKey> !> ./sys/time.h:49: error: previous definition of 'restrict' was here
10:15 < DeeKey> !> Due to previous errors, no 1-tar.log file!
10:15 < DeeKey> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build syst ..
10:15 < DeeKey> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-tar.out -> 1-tar.err
10:15 < DeeKey> == 06/15/07 22:25:56 =[1]=> Aborted building package tar.
10:15 < rxr> ah - I saw this once already
10:15 < rxr> I do an arm testbuild right now
10:15 < rxr> hopefully I hit the same then as well and can take a look
10:16 < rxr> I think the last time I had this on some test-build I guided the configure script to define some ac_whatever_restrict in any case
10:16 < DeeKey> Forget to mention that this is for EMBEDDED generic build
10:17 < rxr> I can probable take a look when my build hits this in some minutes
10:19 < DeeKey> another question: I created folder for a new target in /target dir. And copied WRT folder to it. There already were folder called /package As far as I understood this folder overrides the standard location od package folder? Am i right?
10:19 < rxr> yes, that is correct
10:20 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2.target.modifications.html
10:22 < DeeKey> thank you for the link!
10:23 < DeeKey> but why the compilation process is still executed even if I have selected no packages?
10:23 < rxr> what do you mean ?
10:24 < DeeKey> I have commented all packages in pkgsel file.
10:25 < rxr> do you have commented out all lines?
10:25 < DeeKey> all packages
10:25 < rxr> with an empty rule-set many packages are selected by default
10:25 < rxr> the first line usually is like "O *" to unselect all
10:25 < rxr> and indeed even if you have 0 active packages the Build-Target will still build some helpers until it notices there is nothing to build
10:26 < DeeKey> hmm I have this 0* and it is uncommented. So does it mean that I am compiling nothing?
10:28 < rxr> when you have a totally empty pkgsel then the package selection is in the default state
10:28 < rxr> default state depends on the package, and about 95% of the packages are selected by default
10:29 < rxr> the default state is in all the package's .desc files
10:29 < rxr> the [P] (Priority) tag
10:29 < rxr> most packages have a X, for selected there, only those that conflict with something are disabled by default, with O in the line
10:29 < rxr> the Config displays the currently active package count on the top
10:30 < rxr> without a pkgsel you probably have like 24xx active packages
10:37 < DeeKey> currently I have according to config only 2 pkgs
10:37 < DeeKey> Ho w to get a list of this packages?
10:37 < rxr> 2 active packages ?
10:37 < rxr> grep '^X' config/.../packages
11:33 < DeeKey> The grep 'X' output with all packages deselected is the following:
11:34 < DeeKey> X 01-------- 101.700 base uclibc 0.9.29 / extra/base CROSS NOPARALLEL LIBC 0
11:34 < DeeKey> X -1-------- 127.000 base minit 0.10 / base/system CROSS DIETLIBC INIT 0
11:34 < DeeKey> hmmm strange why is minit package included?
11:34 < DeeKey> I have commented it...
11:34 < rxr> probably it is selected as init
11:35 < rxr> the init package is selected automatically, explicitly
11:35 < DeeKey> I see. What about your build? Appearantly no problems?
11:37 < rxr> well, problems because I test new ARM features ...
11:37 < rxr> I hope I got thru the ARM related stuff by now
11:37 < DeeKey> but no problems connected with tar?
11:37 < rxr> I did not reached tar yet :-(
11:37 < DeeKey> I see...
11:37 < rxr> but I'm optimistic that this re-build will reach tar *g*
11:38 < CIA-9> rene * r24584 /trunk/architecture/arm/ (archtest.out archtest.sh config.hlp config.in):
11:38 < CIA-9> * added support for selectting the ARM ABI to use (currently old GNU
11:38 < CIA-9> vs. new GNU EABI)
11:38 < CIA-9> * updated ARM optimization options, including correct whitespacing
11:40 < rxr> you can try this in the package/archiver/tar/tar.conf
11:40 < DeeKey> about linux kernel config. Is it possible to use xconfig during the automatic build? Or I had to provide .config file?
11:40 < rxr> you have to provide a .config file
11:40 < rxr> as t2 is about automation
11:41 < rxr> when you want to rebuild your target in 3 weeks due to security patches you likely do not want to click thru xconfig again
11:41 < rxr> regarding tar:
11:42 < rxr> atstage cross && hook_add preconf 3 'echo ac_cv_c_restrict=__restrict' >> config.cache'
11:42 < rxr> ^- untested but could / should work
11:42 < rxr> just add the line to the top of the tar.conf
11:43 < DeeKey> yep that is true... but the other way is to create some basic config file and if user wants he can modify it, by enabling the check box X modify kernel configuration
11:44 < rxr> the user could still modify the config your predefine and rebuild
11:44 < rxr> in t2 you can even wire your own Config time options out
11:44 < rxr> so e.g. you could define some well-known wanted extensions your users would want to select and then enable whole, pre-defined .config blocks in addition to your basic one
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11:49 < rxr> Lua implementation notes: http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~lhf/ftp/doc/jucs05.pdf
11:51 < CIA-9> rene * r24585 /trunk/package/base/linux26mm/: * removed linux26mm, bitrotting and noone screamed
11:52 < rxr> oh, wb CIA-9
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11:53 < rxr> so - I go for lunch - cu later
11:54 < DeeKey> cu! :)
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12:19 < sepp> moin :)
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12:35 < tri> re
12:35 < tri> hi sepp
12:35 < sepp> hi tri :)
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13:35 < tri> Macler einen PEBE.BFD.WWTSY.I.U.AB.BS(=Prebuild Expensive Beauty Case Espacially Build For Daus Who Want To Say, Yes I Use A BSD-Based System)
13:35 < tri> Windowsler einen LPCP.BMW.N.FABAL.WACO.TTMPS.IT.WM.WANA(=Likewise Personal Computer Prebuild By $Manufactorer With No Freedom Attached But At Least With An Combination Of The Two Most Powerfull Softwares In The World Microsoft Windows And Norton Antivirus)
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15:38 < misl> hi folks
15:40 < tri> hi misl
15:47 < DeeKey> hy all!
15:50 < DeeKey> I cannot compile uclibc. I have only three packages: dirtree, uclibc, minit.
15:50 < DeeKey> What could be the solution? here is output: http://pastebin.com/930215
15:52 < sepp_> only 3 packages? no gcc ?
15:52 < DeeKey> nope!
15:52 < DeeKey> I am building an embedded distro
15:52 < DeeKey> I will compile a code for it on my host machine, so no need for gcc
15:53 < sepp_> you still need a (cross)compiler
15:54 < DeeKey> Actuallyy the same output will be with gcc enabled..
15:54 < sepp_> the build system is a sandbox, it has to build a compiler in the beginning
15:57 < DeeKey> hmmm.... I though that every package will be buildt on its own according to the config I made...
15:57 < DeeKey> But anyway, it does not compile even with gcc enabled :)
15:57 < DeeKey> :(
15:59 < sepp_> you will also need binutils and the other stuff
16:01 < DeeKey> I use WRT target as a base
16:03 < sepp_> i guess that should have >3 packages
16:03 < DeeKey> and binutils and other stuff is exist in pkglist. I have also enabled it now, with no results...
16:04 < sepp_> has it also built gcc ?
16:04 < DeeKey> yes
16:04 < sepp_> hmmm
16:04 < DeeKey> I think that there is a problem with uclibc
16:04 < DeeKey> package
16:06 < DeeKey> Whay uclibc is the first in a row to be built?
16:08 < sepp_> if it starts with 1-uclibc there is something wrong with your config
16:08 < sepp_> 1st is stage 0 ...
16:09 < sepp_> and maybe you should choose 'generic embedded'
16:10 < sepp_> Wireless Router (incomplete!)
16:12 < DeeKey> there was also the problem with tar in embedded package. Rene gave me a hint to solve it. But compilation take time. I will do it this night...
16:12 < DeeKey> But still I need to create my own distro
16:13 < DeeKey> I am going to build hard real time emnedded distro
16:13 < DeeKey> it should contain only really needed stuff
16:14 < DeeKey> no gcc :) Will it be good if your DVD player could compile programs? Does it really needed ?!
16:16 < sepp_> no, but to compile software for the dvd player you still need a compiler
16:16 < DeeKey> yes cross compiler!
16:16 < sepp_> t2 will build one for you
16:17 < DeeKey> exactly! As far as I understood, t2 can build only one package if needed!
16:18 < DeeKey> and It will resolve all neded dependency itslef.
16:18 < sepp_> not with Build-Targer
16:18 < sepp_> Build-Target
16:19 < tri> i can't build x264
16:19 < tri> got:
16:20 < tri> dct-a.asm:731: error: invalid operands in non-64-bit mode
16:20 < tri> i'm on x86
16:20 < sepp_> tri: downdate nasm and rebuild it
16:25 < tri> sepp_: ok thx build is running...
16:28 < DeeKey> sepp_: i still think that the problem is isnide uclibc package, because:
16:28 < DeeKey> *> The use of custmain is deprecated, please use hooks instead.
16:28 < DeeKey> !> You should not call uname during the build!
16:29 < sepp_> /bin/sh: Cross_CC_not_built_so_far_cc: not found
16:31 < DeeKey> yes and how to build this cross_CC first?
16:31 < sepp_> it will be build for you, that is why you need gcc ...
16:32 < tri> 17:04 < tr1> why should i not use "custmain" and would should i use for it ?
16:32 < tri> 17:31 < sepp> that is just a warning, the world will not perish :)
16:32 < tri> from 06-12
16:32 < sepp_> grep gcc config/YOURCONFIG/packages
16:37 < tri> hm - i have the change to take a look at the openmoko device next week :-)
16:38 < tri> the Emerge-Pkg version info is not that nice
16:41 < tri> hm downdate nasm to 99.00 but got the same error if i build x264
16:41 < DeeKey> My problem was that I haven't made configure, after editing the package file. I thought that target-build will "eat" it by defaul...
16:43 < sepp_> tri: i think 0.98.39
16:45 < tri> sepp_: thx build is running again...
16:52 < DeeKey> thank you sepp! after I have added the needed stuff and updated configuration everything (up to now) compiling without errors
16:53 < sepp_> :)
16:56 < DeeKey> ha. It failed again. But I think that I know why: due to the absence of linux config... But just to be shure could you peek inside the ouput? http://pastebin.com/930263
16:57 < tri> maybe you can paste the log file ?
16:57 < sepp_> the actual error would be in src.linux.../ERROR-LOG
16:57 < DeeKey> ok wait..
16:58 < sepp_> but i think you should really use generic-embedded
16:58 < tri> sepp_: with nasm 0.98.39 x264 compiles
16:58 < tri> sepp_: thx for the hit
17:00 < DeeKey> here it is http://pastebin.com/930266
17:01 < sepp_> hmmm
17:02 < tri> what is `no2modconfig'
17:02 < sepp_> no clue
17:21 < kic_> rxr: it doesn't tell me which filter rules scored, all it says is:
17:21 < kic_>: host mx1.t2-project.org[212.202.170.151] said: 550 This
17:21 < kic_> message scored 5.2 points in the SPAM checker. (in reply to end of DATA
17:21 < kic_> command)
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03:57 < kic-> anyone here that administrates the mailing list?
03:57 < kic-> i tried to subscribe, but spam checker bounced it back to me, scored to high
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08:44 < rxr> re
08:44 < rxr> kic_: yes - me
08:50 < CIA-9> rene * r24578 /trunk/package/archiver/dpkg/dpkg.desc: * updated dpkg (1.14.3 -> 1.14.4)
09:05 < rxr> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9024559
09:08 < CIA-9> susan * r24579 /trunk/package/games/glchess/glchess.desc: * updated glchess (1.0.5 -> 1.0.6)
09:09 < CIA-9> susan * r24580 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-launch-box/gnome-launch-box.desc: * updated gnome-launch-box (0.2 -> 0.3)
09:09 < CIA-9> susan * r24581 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: * updated gtk+ (2.10.12 -> 2.10.13)
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09:13 < rxr> kic-: which filter rules scored for you?
09:13 < rxr> this should be in the mail header
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09:22 < tri> moin
09:27 < rxr> moin tri
09:40 < CIA-9> susan * r24582 /trunk/package/x11/cairo/cairo.desc: * updated cairo (1.4.6 -> 1.4.8)
09:49 < CIA-9> rene * r24583 /trunk/package/base/glibc/arm-old-abi.patch: * fixed non-EABI ARM build of glibc
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09:51 < rxr> hi DeeKey
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09:57 < DeeKey> hello to ALL
09:59 < DeeKey> I have recently started using t2 project after unsuccessful attempts with OE
09:59 < DeeKey> my aim is to create small sized embedded distro based on RTAI.
10:00 < rxr> RTAI the real-time patchset ?
10:00 < DeeKey> t2 seems to support both RTAI and comedi right out of the box. But unfortunately both comedi and RTAI are outdated..
10:01 < DeeKey> rxr: YES RTAI is a hard real time patch.
10:01 < rxr> yeah - that was the next thing I wanted to say
10:01 < rxr> these two patches are unfortunatly areas that did not receive much attention in T2 in the past
10:01 < rxr> I guess OE has no support for neither, has it?
10:02 < rxr> would be very nice if you could just update what you need
10:02 < rxr> the rest of T2 should be a a pretty up-to-date and good shape
10:02 < DeeKey> There are no support for comedi and RTAI in OE
10:02 < DeeKey> HA, that what I am trying to do
10:03 < rxr> :-)
10:04 < DeeKey> but now I faced some troubles compiling Embedded-GENERIC distro...
10:04 < DeeKey> the build is failed on building Building archiver/tar
10:05 < DeeKey> could someone help me solve this issue?
10:06 < rxr> you build for x86, right ?
10:06 < DeeKey> yes
10:06 < rxr> I would only use embedded when you want to cross build very minimal system
10:06 < DeeKey> building on Ubuntu Feisty (7.04)
10:06 < rxr> better use the generic target with a minimal package selection template
10:06 < rxr> that is way more easier to build
10:07 < rxr> building on ubuntu should just work
10:08 < DeeKey> Actually I am going to build my own stripped to minimum distro.
10:08 < DeeKey> I used WRT as a template, and created pksel file to select packages I need.
10:09 < rxr> ah ok
10:09 < rxr> that sound good as well
10:09 < rxr> can you post your exact build error to take a look what's going on ?
10:09 < rxr> you use trunk or 7.0 I guess?
10:09 < rxr> or the older 6.0 branch ?
10:09 < DeeKey> the first one (7)
10:10 < DeeKey> from SVN
10:11 < DeeKey> I will post it to postbin not to mess the channel... Just forget the URL....
10:11 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org
10:11 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Sat Jun 2 08:21:00 2007]
10:14 < DeeKey> hmmm the url of postbin (or whatever) just went out of my mind... :( I will post the output here...
10:14 < DeeKey> == 22:25:18 =[1]=> Building archiver/tar [1.17 7.0-trunk].
10:14 < DeeKey> -> Reading package config: package/archiver/tar/tar.conf
10:14 < DeeKey> -> Preparing build in src.tar.system.20070615.222517.32289.embeded
10:14 < DeeKey> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-tar.out
10:14 < DeeKey> !> mv -f .deps/xstrtoumax.Tpo .deps/xstrtoumax.Po
10:14 < DeeKey> !> i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -g -O2 -MT paxerror. ..
10:14 < DeeKey> !> In file included from ./system.h:441,
10:15 < DeeKey> !> from paxerror.c:19:
10:15 < DeeKey> !> ./sys/time.h:49: error: conflicting types for 'restrict'
10:15 < DeeKey> !> ./sys/time.h:49: error: previous definition of 'restrict' was here
10:15 < DeeKey> !> Due to previous errors, no 1-tar.log file!
10:15 < DeeKey> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build syst ..
10:15 < DeeKey> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-tar.out -> 1-tar.err
10:15 < DeeKey> == 06/15/07 22:25:56 =[1]=> Aborted building package tar.
10:15 < rxr> ah - I saw this once already
10:15 < rxr> I do an arm testbuild right now
10:15 < rxr> hopefully I hit the same then as well and can take a look
10:16 < rxr> I think the last time I had this on some test-build I guided the configure script to define some ac_whatever_restrict in any case
10:16 < DeeKey> Forget to mention that this is for EMBEDDED generic build
10:17 < rxr> I can probable take a look when my build hits this in some minutes
10:19 < DeeKey> another question: I created folder for a new target in /target dir. And copied WRT folder to it. There already were folder called /package As far as I understood this folder overrides the standard location od package folder? Am i right?
10:19 < rxr> yes, that is correct
10:20 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2.target.modifications.html
10:22 < DeeKey> thank you for the link!
10:23 < DeeKey> but why the compilation process is still executed even if I have selected no packages?
10:23 < rxr> what do you mean ?
10:24 < DeeKey> I have commented all packages in pkgsel file.
10:25 < rxr> do you have commented out all lines?
10:25 < DeeKey> all packages
10:25 < rxr> with an empty rule-set many packages are selected by default
10:25 < rxr> the first line usually is like "O *" to unselect all
10:25 < rxr> and indeed even if you have 0 active packages the Build-Target will still build some helpers until it notices there is nothing to build
10:26 < DeeKey> hmm I have this 0* and it is uncommented. So does it mean that I am compiling nothing?
10:28 < rxr> when you have a totally empty pkgsel then the package selection is in the default state
10:28 < rxr> default state depends on the package, and about 95% of the packages are selected by default
10:29 < rxr> the default state is in all the package's .desc files
10:29 < rxr> the [P] (Priority) tag
10:29 < rxr> most packages have a X, for selected there, only those that conflict with something are disabled by default, with O in the line
10:29 < rxr> the Config displays the currently active package count on the top
10:30 < rxr> without a pkgsel you probably have like 24xx active packages
10:37 < DeeKey> currently I have according to config only 2 pkgs
10:37 < DeeKey> Ho w to get a list of this packages?
10:37 < rxr> 2 active packages ?
10:37 < rxr> grep '^X' config/.../packages
11:33 < DeeKey> The grep 'X' output with all packages deselected is the following:
11:34 < DeeKey> X 01-------- 101.700 base uclibc 0.9.29 / extra/base CROSS NOPARALLEL LIBC 0
11:34 < DeeKey> X -1-------- 127.000 base minit 0.10 / base/system CROSS DIETLIBC INIT 0
11:34 < DeeKey> hmmm strange why is minit package included?
11:34 < DeeKey> I have commented it...
11:34 < rxr> probably it is selected as init
11:35 < rxr> the init package is selected automatically, explicitly
11:35 < DeeKey> I see. What about your build? Appearantly no problems?
11:37 < rxr> well, problems because I test new ARM features ...
11:37 < rxr> I hope I got thru the ARM related stuff by now
11:37 < DeeKey> but no problems connected with tar?
11:37 < rxr> I did not reached tar yet :-(
11:37 < DeeKey> I see...
11:37 < rxr> but I'm optimistic that this re-build will reach tar *g*
11:38 < CIA-9> rene * r24584 /trunk/architecture/arm/ (archtest.out archtest.sh config.hlp config.in):
11:38 < CIA-9> * added support for selectting the ARM ABI to use (currently old GNU
11:38 < CIA-9> vs. new GNU EABI)
11:38 < CIA-9> * updated ARM optimization options, including correct whitespacing
11:40 < rxr> you can try this in the package/archiver/tar/tar.conf
11:40 < DeeKey> about linux kernel config. Is it possible to use xconfig during the automatic build? Or I had to provide .config file?
11:40 < rxr> you have to provide a .config file
11:40 < rxr> as t2 is about automation
11:41 < rxr> when you want to rebuild your target in 3 weeks due to security patches you likely do not want to click thru xconfig again
11:41 < rxr> regarding tar:
11:42 < rxr> atstage cross && hook_add preconf 3 'echo ac_cv_c_restrict=__restrict' >> config.cache'
11:42 < rxr> ^- untested but could / should work
11:42 < rxr> just add the line to the top of the tar.conf
11:43 < DeeKey> yep that is true... but the other way is to create some basic config file and if user wants he can modify it, by enabling the check box X modify kernel configuration
11:44 < rxr> the user could still modify the config your predefine and rebuild
11:44 < rxr> in t2 you can even wire your own Config time options out
11:44 < rxr> so e.g. you could define some well-known wanted extensions your users would want to select and then enable whole, pre-defined .config blocks in addition to your basic one
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11:49 < rxr> Lua implementation notes: http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~lhf/ftp/doc/jucs05.pdf
11:51 < CIA-9> rene * r24585 /trunk/package/base/linux26mm/: * removed linux26mm, bitrotting and noone screamed
11:52 < rxr> oh, wb CIA-9
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11:53 < rxr> so - I go for lunch - cu later
11:54 < DeeKey> cu! :)
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12:19 < sepp> moin :)
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12:35 < tri> re
12:35 < tri> hi sepp
12:35 < sepp> hi tri :)
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13:35 < tri> Macler einen PEBE.BFD.WWTSY.I.U.AB.BS(=Prebuild Expensive Beauty Case Espacially Build For Daus Who Want To Say, Yes I Use A BSD-Based System)
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15:38 < misl> hi folks
15:40 < tri> hi misl
15:47 < DeeKey> hy all!
15:50 < DeeKey> I cannot compile uclibc. I have only three packages: dirtree, uclibc, minit.
15:50 < DeeKey> What could be the solution? here is output: http://pastebin.com/930215
15:52 < sepp_> only 3 packages? no gcc ?
15:52 < DeeKey> nope!
15:52 < DeeKey> I am building an embedded distro
15:52 < DeeKey> I will compile a code for it on my host machine, so no need for gcc
15:53 < sepp_> you still need a (cross)compiler
15:54 < DeeKey> Actuallyy the same output will be with gcc enabled..
15:54 < sepp_> the build system is a sandbox, it has to build a compiler in the beginning
15:57 < DeeKey> hmmm.... I though that every package will be buildt on its own according to the config I made...
15:57 < DeeKey> But anyway, it does not compile even with gcc enabled :)
15:57 < DeeKey> :(
15:59 < sepp_> you will also need binutils and the other stuff
16:01 < DeeKey> I use WRT target as a base
16:03 < sepp_> i guess that should have >3 packages
16:03 < DeeKey> and binutils and other stuff is exist in pkglist. I have also enabled it now, with no results...
16:04 < sepp_> has it also built gcc ?
16:04 < DeeKey> yes
16:04 < sepp_> hmmm
16:04 < DeeKey> I think that there is a problem with uclibc
16:04 < DeeKey> package
16:06 < DeeKey> Whay uclibc is the first in a row to be built?
16:08 < sepp_> if it starts with 1-uclibc there is something wrong with your config
16:08 < sepp_> 1st is stage 0 ...
16:09 < sepp_> and maybe you should choose 'generic embedded'
16:10 < sepp_> Wireless Router (incomplete!)
16:12 < DeeKey> there was also the problem with tar in embedded package. Rene gave me a hint to solve it. But compilation take time. I will do it this night...
16:12 < DeeKey> But still I need to create my own distro
16:13 < DeeKey> I am going to build hard real time emnedded distro
16:13 < DeeKey> it should contain only really needed stuff
16:14 < DeeKey> no gcc :) Will it be good if your DVD player could compile programs? Does it really needed ?!
16:16 < sepp_> no, but to compile software for the dvd player you still need a compiler
16:16 < DeeKey> yes cross compiler!
16:16 < sepp_> t2 will build one for you
16:17 < DeeKey> exactly! As far as I understood, t2 can build only one package if needed!
16:18 < DeeKey> and It will resolve all neded dependency itslef.
16:18 < sepp_> not with Build-Targer
16:18 < sepp_> Build-Target
16:19 < tri> i can't build x264
16:19 < tri> got:
16:20 < tri> dct-a.asm:731: error: invalid operands in non-64-bit mode
16:20 < tri> i'm on x86
16:20 < sepp_> tri: downdate nasm and rebuild it
16:25 < tri> sepp_: ok thx build is running...
16:28 < DeeKey> sepp_: i still think that the problem is isnide uclibc package, because:
16:28 < DeeKey> *> The use of custmain is deprecated, please use hooks instead.
16:28 < DeeKey> !> You should not call uname during the build!
16:29 < sepp_> /bin/sh: Cross_CC_not_built_so_far_cc: not found
16:31 < DeeKey> yes and how to build this cross_CC first?
16:31 < sepp_> it will be build for you, that is why you need gcc ...
16:32 < tri> 17:04 < tr1> why should i not use "custmain" and would should i use for it ?
16:32 < tri> 17:31 < sepp> that is just a warning, the world will not perish :)
16:32 < tri> from 06-12
16:32 < sepp_> grep gcc config/YOURCONFIG/packages
16:37 < tri> hm - i have the change to take a look at the openmoko device next week :-)
16:38 < tri> the Emerge-Pkg version info is not that nice
16:41 < tri> hm downdate nasm to 99.00 but got the same error if i build x264
16:41 < DeeKey> My problem was that I haven't made configure, after editing the package file. I thought that target-build will "eat" it by defaul...
16:43 < sepp_> tri: i think 0.98.39
16:45 < tri> sepp_: thx build is running again...
16:52 < DeeKey> thank you sepp! after I have added the needed stuff and updated configuration everything (up to now) compiling without errors
16:53 < sepp_> :)
16:56 < DeeKey> ha. It failed again. But I think that I know why: due to the absence of linux config... But just to be shure could you peek inside the ouput? http://pastebin.com/930263
16:57 < tri> maybe you can paste the log file ?
16:57 < sepp_> the actual error would be in src.linux.../ERROR-LOG
16:57 < DeeKey> ok wait..
16:58 < sepp_> but i think you should really use generic-embedded
16:58 < tri> sepp_: with nasm 0.98.39 x264 compiles
16:58 < tri> sepp_: thx for the hit
17:00 < DeeKey> here it is http://pastebin.com/930266
17:01 < sepp_> hmmm
17:02 < tri> what is `no2modconfig'
17:02 < sepp_> no clue
17:21 < kic_> rxr: it doesn't tell me which filter rules scored, all it says is:
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