T2 IRC Log: 2008-09-02

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--- Log opened Tue Sep 02 00:00:09 2008
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00:51 < mpp> is there any way to increase the limit of 20 nodes ?
00:52 < mpp> rebuild the source ?
01:11 < CIA-8> rene * r30295 /trunk/package/www/uriparser/uriparser.desc: * updated uriparser (0.7.1 -> 0.7.2)
01:12 < mpp> gee rxr are you still online ?
01:12 < mpp> its kinda late
01:12 < mpp> dude
01:13 < mpp> sorry last entry was wrong channel
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01:32 < doobe> Hi I'm tring to cross build for mipsel, It's failing on glibc. I'm using version 7.0
01:32 < doobe> pastebin of error log here : http://pastebin.com/m51642a00
01:33 < doobe> it can't find linuxthreads - see lin 685 of patebin
01:34 < doobe> s/lin/line
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09:27 < mpp> moin moin
09:28 < rxr> moin
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10:11 < CIA-8> rene * r30296 /trunk/package/network/curl/curl.desc: * updated curl (7.18.2 -> 7.19.0)
10:13 < CIA-8> rene * r30298 /trunk/package/gnome2/goffice/goffice.desc: * updated goffice (0.6.3 -> 0.6.4)
10:17 < mpp> hey rxr
10:17 < mpp> i get sometimes the same error in my syslog on the t2 building host
10:17 < mpp> its like:
10:17 < mpp> conftest[20680]: segfault at bf9e2510 ip b7fca499 sp bf9e2510 error 6 in fl_wrapper.so[b7fc9000+3000]
10:17 < mpp> any clue
10:17 < mpp> ?
10:21 < mpp> just to know if the build process is okay with that
10:21 < CIA-8> rene * r30300 /trunk/package/multimedia/libspiff/ (gcc43.patch libspiff.desc): * updated libspiff (0.8.4 -> 1.0.0rc2)
10:31 < rxr> hm - that is not know by me
10:31 < rxr> it linkely indicates some issue
10:31 < rxr> if the build succeeds anyway your're lucky :-)
10:31 < rxr> what package do you get this in?
10:32 < rxr> I would want to hunt it if it's reproduceable
10:33 < mpp> i guess - but its only a gues in rescue target the grep package
10:33 < mpp> i will have to cleanup and rebuild to see
10:34 < mpp> it is reproducable
10:34 < mpp> i am creating custom target nowadays - pxe-rescue - and modified generice-minimal
10:35 < mpp> i really learn a lot
10:35 < mpp> once you get to know t2 - it's a joy :-)
10:35 < mpp> thanx once again !!!
10:36 < rxr> your're welcome! :-)
10:36 < mpp> i also tuned the i/o
10:37 < mpp> i now have seperate partitions with ext3 mounted rw,data=writeback,commit=240
10:37 < mpp> the disk i/o drops to minimum
10:37 < mpp> and process speeds up conisderably
10:37 < rxr> maybe post that to the t2 list for others to know etc.
10:37 < mpp> ill do
10:38 < mpp> one issue you cold help me out with
10:38 < mpp> the rootfs can only be mounted with data=ordered
10:38 < mpp> i had the kernel param modified the fstab and the init scripts within the initrd
10:39 < mpp> but mounting / re-mountig with a mode other than data=ordered fail
10:39 < mpp> no big deal - but the system could be running much faster with the above parameters
10:39 < mpp> for a build host it would be very nice
10:40 < mpp> since we could produce a target with these settings as default to speedup t2 build for noobs
10:40 < rxr> did not notice that behaviour, yet
10:40 < mpp> did you ever try mounting rootfs with data=writeback / journal
10:41 < mpp> the remount in rw mode fails
10:41 < rxr> the man-page appears to be your friend:
10:41 < rxr> Specifies the journalling mode for file data. Metadata is always journaled. To use modes other than ordered on the root file
10:41 < rxr> system, pass the mode to the kernel as boot parameter, e.g. rootflags=data=journal.
10:41 < mpp> did all that already
10:41 < rxr> btw. I do not use ext3 much
10:41 < mpp> neither did i
10:41 < mpp> but for building t2 it is ideal
10:41 < rxr> in the past I mostly used reiser3 and now am a bit in xfs ...
10:41 < mpp> considering the writeback and commit feature
10:42 < rxr> I hope btrfs improves and turns out to be useful
10:42 < mpp> try it - it's worth it
10:42 < mpp> i mainly came up with the idea cause raid0 over 2 or more disks is less common for starters
10:42 < mpp> so the ext3 tuned does a good job
10:43 < rxr> I would rather suggest to write a nice t2 #
10:43 < mpp> i will make a bench for the bootstrap process with default ext3 / tuned ext3 to make the difference visible
10:43 < rxr> zine article about this then "yet another custom target"
10:43 < mpp> agreed
10:43 < rxr> only slightly varing target appear to scare more users than they attract
10:46 < mpp> youre right
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10:47 < mpp_> so ill assemble the necessary stuff for a comparison
10:48 < mpp_> i am also an intermediate in terms of linux knowledge
10:49 < mpp_> i could - with permision of my company - write some stuff about the pxe-rescue
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13:00 < CIA-8> rene * r30301 /trunk/package/base/glibc/x86-fnstsw.patch: * fixed glibc (2.6.1) for recent binutils on x86
13:02 < CIA-8> rene * r30302 /trunk/package/base/binutils/ (binutils.desc have_stdlib.patch): * updated binutils (2.18.50.0.3 -> 2.18.50.0.9)
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15:11 < mpp> hey rxr
15:12 < mpp> could you update e2fsprogs and possibly the ext4 patches ?
15:12 < mpp> thanx
15:16 < rxr> is there an update ?
15:17 < rxr> if you know one maybe test locally and send the patch? e.g. to the ML ?
15:23 < mpp> ah okay
15:23 < mpp> ill give it a shot
15:23 < mpp> on what target ?
15:23 < rxr> your's ? :-)
15:24 < mpp> okay
15:24 < mpp> since im an intermediate - could you arrange a svn branch from me ?
15:24 < mpp> i have machines to build and test stuf
15:24 < mpp> if it helps
15:25 < rxr> a branch for?
15:25 < mpp> those patches ?
15:25 < mpp> okay whatever
15:25 < rxr> that should be just a patch?
15:25 < mpp> never mind
15:25 < rxr> hm
15:29 < mpp> i mean due to the patches
15:29 < mpp> on the package
15:29 < mpp> dietlibc and elf
15:33 < rxr> do they require rediffing?=
15:33 < rxr> what ext4 update patch do you mean? do you have a link?
15:33 < mpp> yep
15:33 < rxr> and/or is there a new e2fsprogs package version ?
15:33 < mpp> comming up
15:33 < mpp> http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page
15:33 < mpp> right side on the news
15:45 < mpp> seems it is buggy
15:45 < mpp> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2088537&group_id=2406&atid=102406
15:54 < rxr> did you test an update on t2 alreay ?
15:56 < mpp> no quite
15:56 < mpp> my servers are on build job atm
15:56 < mpp> within the next hour or two ill give it atry
15:58 < CIA-8> mtr * r30304 /trunk/package/develop/nspr/ (. nspr.cache nspr.conf nspr.desc nspr.pc.in): * added nspr (4.7.1) - Netscape Portable Runtime
15:59 < CIA-8> mtr * r30305 /trunk/package/develop/xulrunner/ (4 files): * added xulrunner (1.9.0.1) - Mozilla runtime package
16:02 < rxr> == 15:54:43 =[1]=> Building filesystem/e2fsprogs [1.41.1 8.0-trunk].
16:02 < rxr> == 09/02/08 15:55:51 =[1]=> Finished building package e2fsprogs.
16:02 < rxr> == 15:56:00 =[3]=> Building filesystem/e2fsprogs [1.41.1 8.0-trunk].
16:02 < rxr> == 09/02/08 15:57:21 =[3]=> Finished building package e2fsprogs.
16:13 < CIA-8> rene * r30306 /trunk/package/filesystem/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs.desc: * updated e2fsprogs (1.41.0 -> 1.41.1)
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17:22 < mtr> re
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17:24 < mtr> xemacs-packages is not on the mirror http://dl.t2-project.org/mirror/8.0
17:24 < mtr> someone else with problems loading from the original site?
17:25 < rxr> hi mtr
17:25 < mtr> hi rxr
17:26 < rxr> I
17:26 < rxr> 'll check and/or updated
17:27 < mtr> I had to download xemacs-sumo-2007-04-27.tar.bz2 manually, the Download scripts always got timeouts
17:27 < rxr> ouhm
17:27 < mtr> btw, I'm running kde 4.1 now
17:28 < rxr> hm
17:28 < rxr> in my local trunk I have xemacs-sumo-2006-05-10.tar.bz2, anyway
17:28 < rxr> where do you have a 2007 file ?
17:28 < rxr> (btw. crying for an update, aside some emacs modes do not work too well on my side anyway, /me crossing fingers an updates fixes something ...)
17:29 < mtr> oh yes - now I understand why the file is not on the mirrros ... ;-)
17:29 < mtr> my fault
17:29 < rxr> :-)
17:29 < rxr> yw
17:31 < mtr> I should commit the update then
17:31 < rxr> if you got the file and have a checksum and it built ... :-)
17:32 < rxr> yes, your file is the latest ...
17:32 < rxr> maybe change the URL from ftp:// to http:// on the way, http://ftp.xemacs.org/packages/ is way faster than the "not really responding" ftp:// server ...
17:33 < mtr> ok, http:// looks way better
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19:05 < rxr> mtr: wanna commit this xemacs package update ?
19:16 < mtr> already commited, seems CIA is sleepy
19:16 < mtr> Sende package/editors/xemacs-packages/xemacs-packages.desc
19:16 < mtr> Übertrage Daten .
19:16 < mtr> Revision 30308 übertragen.
19:16 < rxr> oh - ok - thanks!
19:16 < rxr> (gues I rely too much on the lazy CIA these days ...)
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20:55 < Ragnarin> rxr: do you have a 64 bit comp? :)
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22:13 < CIA-8> mtr * r30311 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xcfgt2.sh: * fixed xcfgt2-script installation of binary nvidia driver module
22:13 < CIA-8> mtr * r30310 /trunk/package/xorg/xkeyboard-config/xkeyboard-config.conf: * fixed xkeyboard-config to install a default rule set "xorg"
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