T2 IRC Log: 2007-08-13
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--- Log opened Mon Aug 13 00:00:20 2007
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09:36 < rxr> re
09:44 < CIA-24> susan * r25556 /trunk/package/perl/perl-user-identity/perl-user-identity.desc: * updated perl-user-identity (0.91 -> 0.92)
09:44 < CIA-24> susan * r25557 /trunk/package/security/pcsc-tools/pcsc-tools.desc: * updated pcsc-tools (1.4.9 -> 1.4.10)
09:44 < CIA-24> susan * r25558 /trunk/package/network/bluez-libs/bluez-libs.desc: * updated bluez-libs (3.13 -> 3.14)
09:45 < CIA-24> susan * r25559 /trunk/package/x11/icewm/icewm.desc: * updated icewm (1.3.0 -> 1.3.1)
09:45 < CIA-24> susan * r25560 /trunk/package/network/bluez-utils/bluez-utils.desc: * updated bluez-utils (3.13 -> 3.14)
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09:45 < CIA-24> susan * r25561 /trunk/package/network/bluez-hcidump/bluez-hcidump.desc: * updated bluez-hcidump (1.39 -> 1.40)
09:46 < CIA-24> susan * r25562 /trunk/package/security/prelude-lml/prelude-lml.desc: * updated prelude-lml (0.9.10 -> 0.9.10.1)
09:47 < CIA-24> rene * r25563 /trunk/package/x11/xterm/xterm.desc: * updated xterm (228 -> 229)
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09:57 < CIA-24> susan * r25564 /trunk/package/develop/piklab/piklab.desc: * updated piklab (0.14.3 -> 0.14.4)
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10:27 < CIA-24> susan * r25565 /trunk/package/gpe/teleport/ (. teleport.cache teleport.desc): * added teleport (0.34) - Move GTK applications between displays
10:31 < CIA-24> rene * r25566 /trunk/package/network/avahi/avahi.desc: * updated avahi (0.6.20 -> 0.6.21)
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10:56 < CIA-24> susan * r25567 /trunk/package/gpe/xserver-common/ (. xserver-common.cache xserver-common.desc): * added xserver-common (1.16) - Common X11 scripts and support files
10:57 < CIA-24> susan * r25568 /trunk/package/gpe/xst/ (xst.cache xst.desc): * updated download tag and xst.cache
11:02 < CIA-24> susan * r25569 /trunk/package/gpe/repton/ (repton.cache repton.desc): * updated download tag and repton.cache
11:03 < CIA-24> susan * r25570 /trunk/package/gpe/scap/ (scap.cache scap.desc): * updated download tag and scap.cache
11:06 < CIA-24> susan * r25571 /trunk/package/gpe/xdemineur/ (xdemineur.cache xdemineur.desc): * updated download tag and xdemineur.cache
11:08 < CIA-24> rene * r25572 /trunk/package/base/strace/arch-arm.patch: * fixed strace for ARM (at least for uclibc builds)
11:22 < CIA-24> susan * r25573 /trunk/package/gpe/gpe-scap/ (. gpe-scap.cache gpe-scap.desc): * added gpe-scap (1.3) - GPE screenshot application
11:33 < CIA-24> rene * r25574 /trunk/package/base/strace/ (3 files):
11:33 < CIA-24> * updated strace (4.5.15 -> 4.5.16), includes pulling in the AVR32
11:33 < CIA-24> patches (formerly downloaded) and rediffed them for 4.5.16,
11:33 < CIA-24> configure mostly anyway, ...)
11:35 < CIA-24> rene * r25575 /trunk/package/x11/xstroke/ (. xstroke.cache xstroke.desc): * added xstroke (0.6) - A fullscreen gesture recognition program for X Windows
11:39 < CIA-24> susan * r25576 /trunk/package/gpe/gpe-synctool/ (. gpe-synctool.cache gpe-synctool.desc): * added gpe-synctool (0.2) - Sync daemon for GPE and OpenSync
11:46 < CIA-24> susan * r25577 /trunk/package/gpe/gpesyncd/ (. gpesyncd.cache gpesyncd.desc): * added gpesyncd (2.0) - A tool to import and export vevents, vcards and vtodos
11:51 < rxr> heh: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070812
11:53 < CIA-24> susan * r25578 /trunk/package/gpe/libhandoff/ (. libhandoff.cache libhandoff.desc): * added libhandoff (0.1) - Library for GPE calendar
12:00 < CIA-24> susan * r25579 /trunk/package/gpe/starling/ (. starling.cache starling.desc): * added starling (0.2) - Audio player for GPE
12:07 < CIA-24> rene * r25580 /trunk/package/qt/qtcore/qtcore.conf:
12:07 < CIA-24> * fixed qtcore architecture selection, generalized big vs. little
12:07 < CIA-24> endian selection, and added ARM compiler name fixup
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14:25 < rxr> huhe:
14:25 < rxr> 14:24 -!- Cannot join to channel #openmoko-devel (Bad channel key)
14:25 < rxr> 14:25 -!- Cannot join to channel #openmoko-core (Bad channel key)
14:25 < rxr> now that is "open"ess
14:28 < mqueiros_> couldn't be more open...
14:30 < rxr> I didn't even know IRC supports such things ...
14:32 < pdinoto> hi,
14:32 < pdinoto> when i create a target that is for install,
14:33 < pdinoto> i get an .iso with two .tar files that are the installer>
14:33 < pdinoto> 2nd_stage.tar and 2nd_stage_small.tar
14:36 < pdinoto> they provide a basic 'stone' to start working,
14:36 < pdinoto> but where does stone get the install image to put on hd?
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14:52 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org
14:52 -!- Topic set by H4X [] [Tue Jun 26 17:57:25 2007]
14:52 [Users #t2]
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14:55 < rxr> re
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14:59 < rxr> I guess a good sign to order the rootserver ...
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15:47 < rxr> valentin: http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/media/C++0x - An Overview.html
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15:50 < kic-> aww
15:51 < kic-> welp, i tested the perl binaries rene
15:51 < kic-> heh
15:51 < valentin> rxr: something in there, that was not in the ix article yet ?
15:58 < rxr> no idea, don't kno the iX article
15:58 < rxr> kic-: ?
15:58 < rxr> tested to work ?
16:00 < kic-> nope, didn't work
16:00 < kic-> heh
16:00 < rxr> ouhm
16:00 < kic-> says 'Illegal operation'
16:00 < rxr> what failure ?
16:00 < kic-> or something like that
16:00 < rxr> Illegal Instruction ?
16:00 < kic-> ahh
16:00 < kic-> yes
16:00 < kic-> that one
16:01 < rxr> hm - maybe overoptimized
16:01 < rxr> hoped I selected a cpu model mostly matching the IXP
16:01 < kic-> hrm
16:01 < kic-> maybe no cpu optimizations would help?
16:02 < kic-> i thought the IXP425 was an Xscale cpu
16:02 < rxr> to few optimization can also result in instructions the dedicated ARM core does not like
16:02 < rxr> just had that on the Neo phone ...
16:02 < kic-> oh
16:02 < rxr> dosn't like as in == doesn't implement (anymore)
16:03 < rxr> what was your exact core ?
16:03 < rxr> 425 ?
16:04 < kic-> yes
16:05 < rxr> cat you paste the /proc/cpuinfo somewhre e?
16:05 < rxr> (e.g. here)
16:07 < kic-> hrm
16:07 < kic-> perhaps i can
16:07 < kic-> just a sec
16:09 < kic-> msg
16:09 < kic-> or here in channel
16:09 < kic-> ?
16:10 < kic-> 24 lines
16:11 < kic-> i'll DCC the .txt file to you
16:11 < kic-> cause i have to go back in to safwat's office
16:14 < rxr> you do not have gdb on the board :-)
16:24 < kic-> i dunno
16:24 < kic-> guess not?
16:24 < kic-> HEH
16:24 < kic-> does that make a difference?
16:25 < rxr> just to find out what instruction it is exactly ...
16:25 < rxr> I rebuild the flavour here with aa sightly modified set up gcc options
16:25 < rxr> let's hope it works better
16:26 < kic-> w00t
16:26 < kic-> if you can get this working, you will be teh saviour
16:26 < kic-> i'm already looking at perl coder resumes
16:26 < kic-> heh
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17:08 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/miniperl2
17:08 < rxr> ^- better ?
17:08 < rxr> Insert: -march=armv5t
17:08 < rxr> Insert: -mtune=xscale
17:08 < rxr> Insert: -msoft-float
17:08 < rxr> Insert: -mbig-endian
17:13 < kic-> hrm
17:13 < kic-> lemme try
17:13 < kic-> :D
17:16 < kic-> damn
17:17 < kic-> illegal instruction
17:17 < rxr> hm
17:18 < rxr> do you want to send me such a thing or should I get a Linksys NSLU2 that apparently has the same CPU from Amazon ?
17:19 < kic-> send me a link to the amazon thing?
17:19 < kic-> i'll take a look and see how close it matches
17:19 < rxr> Linksys NSLU2-DE NETWORK STORAGE LINK
17:19 < rxr> IXP 425
17:19 < rxr> that thing is not a buity, though
17:20 < rxr> seldom saw such an un-pretty box ... :-(
17:20 < rxr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2
17:21 < rxr> just might be cheaper / faster to get here
17:21 < rxr> depending on how urgent & Co you need an alternative binary source for yours ...
17:22 < kic-> hrm
17:23 < kic-> hrm
17:23 < kic-> might be better for me to fed-ex you a box
17:23 < kic-> if i send you one, how confident are you that you can get a working binary for it?
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17:24 < rxr> kic-: the matter is just isolatinog what instruction that is and building the binaries with the correct switches
17:24 < rxr> kic-: on the Neo that just took some hour++
17:24 < rxr> (though I only had to hunt that on hour becasue I mistype the inial optimization setting, yeek)
17:25 < rxr> but for the armeb I do not see what should be wrong in this:
17:25 < rxr> Insert: -Os
17:25 < rxr> Insert: -march=armv5t
17:25 < rxr> Insert: -mtune=xscale
17:25 < rxr> Insert: -msoft-float
17:25 < rxr> Insert: -mbig-endian
17:25 < rxr> apparently that is what some openslug thing for this Linksys box lists
17:32 < kic-> hrm
17:33 < kic-> you didn't have the -Os
17:33 < kic-> in the above list
17:33 < kic-> [11:08am] ^- better ?
17:33 < kic-> [11:08am] Insert: -march=armv5t
17:33 < kic-> [11:08am] Insert: -mtune=xscale
17:33 < kic-> [11:08am] Insert: -msoft-float
17:33 < kic-> [11:08am] Insert: -mbig-endian
17:33 < kic-> [11:12am] hrm
17:33 < kic-> would that make a difference?
17:34 < rxr> no, just Optimize for size
17:34 < rxr> (unless there is a compiler bug)
17:35 < kic-> heh
19:27 < mqueiros_> What do you guys use to try your .isos ? I'v been using Qemu...
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20:10 < sepp> moin :)
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20:47 < kic-> rene
20:47 < kic-> i think there is a problem with rsync
20:47 < kic-> if you look under 7.0/x/
20:47 < kic-> and do an 'ls'
20:48 < kic-> you'll see what i mean
20:48 < kic-> root@localhost:/var/opt/apache/lib/htdocs/t2/7.0/x# l
20:48 < kic-> total 132K
20:48 < kic-> drwxr-xr-x 33 rene rene 4096 2007-08-11 13:19 .
20:48 < kic-> drwxr-xr-x 58 rene rene 4096 2007-08-13 12:28 ..
20:48 < kic-> drwxr-xr-x 3 rene rene 4096 2006-06-17 17:36 xf86-video-apm-1.0.1.5.tar.bz2http:
20:48 < kic-> drwxr-xr-x 3 rene rene 4096 2006-06-17 17:36 xf86-video-ark-0.5.0.5.tar.bz2http:
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22:11 < yokoy> nabend
22:11 < tri> moinmoin
22:12 < yokoy> can you confirm that compiling on a fast machine is slower by using ccache?
22:29 < kic-> not really
22:29 < kic-> my quadcore machine compiles hella fast with ccache
22:34 < tri> maybe your ccache folder is one a slow drive ?
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23:25 < kic-> who here was saying they wanted an alternate USA mirror to use instead of that Florida - US - www.ucc.fr?
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09:36 < rxr> re
09:44 < CIA-24> susan * r25556 /trunk/package/perl/perl-user-identity/perl-user-identity.desc: * updated perl-user-identity (0.91 -> 0.92)
09:44 < CIA-24> susan * r25557 /trunk/package/security/pcsc-tools/pcsc-tools.desc: * updated pcsc-tools (1.4.9 -> 1.4.10)
09:44 < CIA-24> susan * r25558 /trunk/package/network/bluez-libs/bluez-libs.desc: * updated bluez-libs (3.13 -> 3.14)
09:45 < CIA-24> susan * r25559 /trunk/package/x11/icewm/icewm.desc: * updated icewm (1.3.0 -> 1.3.1)
09:45 < CIA-24> susan * r25560 /trunk/package/network/bluez-utils/bluez-utils.desc: * updated bluez-utils (3.13 -> 3.14)
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09:45 < CIA-24> susan * r25561 /trunk/package/network/bluez-hcidump/bluez-hcidump.desc: * updated bluez-hcidump (1.39 -> 1.40)
09:46 < CIA-24> susan * r25562 /trunk/package/security/prelude-lml/prelude-lml.desc: * updated prelude-lml (0.9.10 -> 0.9.10.1)
09:47 < CIA-24> rene * r25563 /trunk/package/x11/xterm/xterm.desc: * updated xterm (228 -> 229)
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09:57 < CIA-24> susan * r25564 /trunk/package/develop/piklab/piklab.desc: * updated piklab (0.14.3 -> 0.14.4)
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10:27 < CIA-24> susan * r25565 /trunk/package/gpe/teleport/ (. teleport.cache teleport.desc): * added teleport (0.34) - Move GTK applications between displays
10:31 < CIA-24> rene * r25566 /trunk/package/network/avahi/avahi.desc: * updated avahi (0.6.20 -> 0.6.21)
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10:56 < CIA-24> susan * r25567 /trunk/package/gpe/xserver-common/ (. xserver-common.cache xserver-common.desc): * added xserver-common (1.16) - Common X11 scripts and support files
10:57 < CIA-24> susan * r25568 /trunk/package/gpe/xst/ (xst.cache xst.desc): * updated download tag and xst.cache
11:02 < CIA-24> susan * r25569 /trunk/package/gpe/repton/ (repton.cache repton.desc): * updated download tag and repton.cache
11:03 < CIA-24> susan * r25570 /trunk/package/gpe/scap/ (scap.cache scap.desc): * updated download tag and scap.cache
11:06 < CIA-24> susan * r25571 /trunk/package/gpe/xdemineur/ (xdemineur.cache xdemineur.desc): * updated download tag and xdemineur.cache
11:08 < CIA-24> rene * r25572 /trunk/package/base/strace/arch-arm.patch: * fixed strace for ARM (at least for uclibc builds)
11:22 < CIA-24> susan * r25573 /trunk/package/gpe/gpe-scap/ (. gpe-scap.cache gpe-scap.desc): * added gpe-scap (1.3) - GPE screenshot application
11:33 < CIA-24> rene * r25574 /trunk/package/base/strace/ (3 files):
11:33 < CIA-24> * updated strace (4.5.15 -> 4.5.16), includes pulling in the AVR32
11:33 < CIA-24> patches (formerly downloaded) and rediffed them for 4.5.16,
11:33 < CIA-24> configure mostly anyway, ...)
11:35 < CIA-24> rene * r25575 /trunk/package/x11/xstroke/ (. xstroke.cache xstroke.desc): * added xstroke (0.6) - A fullscreen gesture recognition program for X Windows
11:39 < CIA-24> susan * r25576 /trunk/package/gpe/gpe-synctool/ (. gpe-synctool.cache gpe-synctool.desc): * added gpe-synctool (0.2) - Sync daemon for GPE and OpenSync
11:46 < CIA-24> susan * r25577 /trunk/package/gpe/gpesyncd/ (. gpesyncd.cache gpesyncd.desc): * added gpesyncd (2.0) - A tool to import and export vevents, vcards and vtodos
11:51 < rxr> heh: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070812
11:53 < CIA-24> susan * r25578 /trunk/package/gpe/libhandoff/ (. libhandoff.cache libhandoff.desc): * added libhandoff (0.1) - Library for GPE calendar
12:00 < CIA-24> susan * r25579 /trunk/package/gpe/starling/ (. starling.cache starling.desc): * added starling (0.2) - Audio player for GPE
12:07 < CIA-24> rene * r25580 /trunk/package/qt/qtcore/qtcore.conf:
12:07 < CIA-24> * fixed qtcore architecture selection, generalized big vs. little
12:07 < CIA-24> endian selection, and added ARM compiler name fixup
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14:25 < rxr> huhe:
14:25 < rxr> 14:24 -!- Cannot join to channel #openmoko-devel (Bad channel key)
14:25 < rxr> 14:25 -!- Cannot join to channel #openmoko-core (Bad channel key)
14:25 < rxr> now that is "open"ess
14:28 < mqueiros_> couldn't be more open...
14:30 < rxr> I didn't even know IRC supports such things ...
14:32 < pdinoto> hi,
14:32 < pdinoto> when i create a target that is for install,
14:33 < pdinoto> i get an .iso with two .tar files that are the installer>
14:33 < pdinoto> 2nd_stage.tar and 2nd_stage_small.tar
14:36 < pdinoto> they provide a basic 'stone' to start working,
14:36 < pdinoto> but where does stone get the install image to put on hd?
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14:55 < rxr> re
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14:59 < rxr> I guess a good sign to order the rootserver ...
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15:47 < rxr> valentin: http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/media/C++0x - An Overview.html
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15:50 < kic-> aww
15:51 < kic-> welp, i tested the perl binaries rene
15:51 < kic-> heh
15:51 < valentin> rxr: something in there, that was not in the ix article yet ?
15:58 < rxr> no idea, don't kno the iX article
15:58 < rxr> kic-: ?
15:58 < rxr> tested to work ?
16:00 < kic-> nope, didn't work
16:00 < kic-> heh
16:00 < rxr> ouhm
16:00 < kic-> says 'Illegal operation'
16:00 < rxr> what failure ?
16:00 < kic-> or something like that
16:00 < rxr> Illegal Instruction ?
16:00 < kic-> ahh
16:00 < kic-> yes
16:00 < kic-> that one
16:01 < rxr> hm - maybe overoptimized
16:01 < rxr> hoped I selected a cpu model mostly matching the IXP
16:01 < kic-> hrm
16:01 < kic-> maybe no cpu optimizations would help?
16:02 < kic-> i thought the IXP425 was an Xscale cpu
16:02 < rxr> to few optimization can also result in instructions the dedicated ARM core does not like
16:02 < rxr> just had that on the Neo phone ...
16:02 < kic-> oh
16:02 < rxr> dosn't like as in == doesn't implement (anymore)
16:03 < rxr> what was your exact core ?
16:03 < rxr> 425 ?
16:04 < kic-> yes
16:05 < rxr> cat you paste the /proc/cpuinfo somewhre e?
16:05 < rxr> (e.g. here)
16:07 < kic-> hrm
16:07 < kic-> perhaps i can
16:07 < kic-> just a sec
16:09 < kic-> msg
16:09 < kic-> or here in channel
16:09 < kic-> ?
16:10 < kic-> 24 lines
16:11 < kic-> i'll DCC the .txt file to you
16:11 < kic-> cause i have to go back in to safwat's office
16:14 < rxr> you do not have gdb on the board :-)
16:24 < kic-> i dunno
16:24 < kic-> guess not?
16:24 < kic-> HEH
16:24 < kic-> does that make a difference?
16:25 < rxr> just to find out what instruction it is exactly ...
16:25 < rxr> I rebuild the flavour here with aa sightly modified set up gcc options
16:25 < rxr> let's hope it works better
16:26 < kic-> w00t
16:26 < kic-> if you can get this working, you will be teh saviour
16:26 < kic-> i'm already looking at perl coder resumes
16:26 < kic-> heh
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17:08 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/miniperl2
17:08 < rxr> ^- better ?
17:08 < rxr> Insert: -march=armv5t
17:08 < rxr> Insert: -mtune=xscale
17:08 < rxr> Insert: -msoft-float
17:08 < rxr> Insert: -mbig-endian
17:13 < kic-> hrm
17:13 < kic-> lemme try
17:13 < kic-> :D
17:16 < kic-> damn
17:17 < kic-> illegal instruction
17:17 < rxr> hm
17:18 < rxr> do you want to send me such a thing or should I get a Linksys NSLU2 that apparently has the same CPU from Amazon ?
17:19 < kic-> send me a link to the amazon thing?
17:19 < kic-> i'll take a look and see how close it matches
17:19 < rxr> Linksys NSLU2-DE NETWORK STORAGE LINK
17:19 < rxr> IXP 425
17:19 < rxr> that thing is not a buity, though
17:20 < rxr> seldom saw such an un-pretty box ... :-(
17:20 < rxr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2
17:21 < rxr> just might be cheaper / faster to get here
17:21 < rxr> depending on how urgent & Co you need an alternative binary source for yours ...
17:22 < kic-> hrm
17:23 < kic-> hrm
17:23 < kic-> might be better for me to fed-ex you a box
17:23 < kic-> if i send you one, how confident are you that you can get a working binary for it?
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17:24 < rxr> kic-: the matter is just isolatinog what instruction that is and building the binaries with the correct switches
17:24 < rxr> kic-: on the Neo that just took some hour++
17:24 < rxr> (though I only had to hunt that on hour becasue I mistype the inial optimization setting, yeek)
17:25 < rxr> but for the armeb I do not see what should be wrong in this:
17:25 < rxr> Insert: -Os
17:25 < rxr> Insert: -march=armv5t
17:25 < rxr> Insert: -mtune=xscale
17:25 < rxr> Insert: -msoft-float
17:25 < rxr> Insert: -mbig-endian
17:25 < rxr> apparently that is what some openslug thing for this Linksys box lists
17:32 < kic-> hrm
17:33 < kic-> you didn't have the -Os
17:33 < kic-> in the above list
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17:33 < kic-> [11:08am]
17:33 < kic-> [11:08am]
17:33 < kic-> [11:08am]
17:33 < kic-> [11:08am]
17:33 < kic-> [11:12am]
17:33 < kic-> would that make a difference?
17:34 < rxr> no, just Optimize for size
17:34 < rxr> (unless there is a compiler bug)
17:35 < kic-> heh
19:27 < mqueiros_> What do you guys use to try your .isos ? I'v been using Qemu...
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20:10 < sepp> moin :)
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20:47 < kic-> rene
20:47 < kic-> i think there is a problem with rsync
20:47 < kic-> if you look under 7.0/x/
20:47 < kic-> and do an 'ls'
20:48 < kic-> you'll see what i mean
20:48 < kic-> root@localhost:/var/opt/apache/lib/htdocs/t2/7.0/x# l
20:48 < kic-> total 132K
20:48 < kic-> drwxr-xr-x 33 rene rene 4096 2007-08-11 13:19 .
20:48 < kic-> drwxr-xr-x 58 rene rene 4096 2007-08-13 12:28 ..
20:48 < kic-> drwxr-xr-x 3 rene rene 4096 2006-06-17 17:36 xf86-video-apm-1.0.1.5.tar.bz2http:
20:48 < kic-> drwxr-xr-x 3 rene rene 4096 2006-06-17 17:36 xf86-video-ark-0.5.0.5.tar.bz2http:
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22:11 < yokoy> nabend
22:11 < tri> moinmoin
22:12 < yokoy> can you confirm that compiling on a fast machine is slower by using ccache?
22:29 < kic-> not really
22:29 < kic-> my quadcore machine compiles hella fast with ccache
22:34 < tri> maybe your ccache folder is one a slow drive ?
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23:25 < kic-> who here was saying they wanted an alternate USA mirror to use instead of that Florida - US - www.ucc.fr?
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