T2 IRC Log: 2007-07-03

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--- Log opened Tue Jul 03 00:00:19 2007
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08:21 < mtr> moin
08:24 < sepp> moin mtr :)
08:33 < mtr> hi sepp :)
08:52 < rxr> moin
08:53 < rxr> hi all
08:53 [Users #t2]
08:53 [@ChanServ ] [ Cyda ] [ Fatal] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz ]
08:53 [ cbrake_away] [ Dallur] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
08:53 [ CIA-9 ] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
08:53 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
08:56 < sepp> hi rxr :)
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09:06 < mtr> hi rxr :)
09:24 < CIA-9> rene * r24841 /trunk/package/audio/qjackctl/qjackctl.desc: * updated qjackctl (0.2.22 -> 0.2.23)
09:28 < CIA-9> susan * r24842 /trunk/package/archiver/cpio/cpio.desc: * updated cpio (2.8 -> 2.9)
09:29 < CIA-9> susan * r24843 /trunk/package/gnome2/xchat/xchat.desc: * updated xchat (2.8.2 -> 2.8.4)
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09:32 < write_erase> hi
09:42 < rxr> hi write_erase
09:42 < sepp> hi write_erase
09:42 < CIA-9> rene * r24844 /trunk/package/multimedia/xvid/xvid.desc: * updated xvid (1.1.2 -> 1.1.3)
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10:13 < tri> moin
10:15 < rxr> moin tri
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10:18 < tr1> re
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11:33 < rxr> load average: 12.26, 11.81, 5.66
11:33 < rxr> ^- hm - just printed a 3MB PDF
11:33 < rxr> doom'ed cups
11:39 < rxr> valentin: urxvt -depth 32 -bg rgba:0000/0000/0000/dddd -fg "[10]pink" -fn "xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:pixelsize=13" +sb
11:39 < rxr> -tn rxvt-color
11:43 < valentin> pink ?
11:46 < rxr> hehe
11:46 < rxr> I combined examples from the man page
11:46 < rxr> and there was pink
11:46 < rxr> I never noticed something pink so I did not bother change that
12:43 < CIA-9> susan * r24845 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-menus/gnome-menus.desc: * updated gnome-menus (2.18.2 -> 2.18.3)
12:43 < CIA-9> susan * r24846 /trunk/package/gnome2/libwnck/libwnck.desc: * updated libwnck (2.18.2 -> 2.18.3)
12:45 < CIA-9> susan * r24847 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-desktop/gnome-desktop.desc: * updated gnome-desktop (2.18.2 -> 2.18.3)
12:48 < CIA-9> susan * r24848 /trunk/package/gnome2/eel/eel.desc: * updated eel (2.18.0.1 -> 2.18.3)
12:51 < CIA-9> susan * r24849 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdm/gdm.desc: * updated gdm (2.18.2 -> 2.18.3)
12:58 < CIA-9> susan * r24850 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-panel/gnome-panel.desc: * updated gnome-panel (2.18.2 -> 2.18.3)
13:04 < CIA-9> susan * r24851 /trunk/package/gnome2/nautilus/nautilus.desc: * updated nautilus (2.18.1 -> 2.18.3)
13:24 < CIA-9> susan * r24852 /trunk/package/gnome2/file-roller/file-roller.desc: * updated file-roller (2.18.3 -> 2.18.4)
13:24 < CIA-9> susan * r24853 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-session/gnome-session.desc: * updated gnome-session (2.18.2 -> 2.18.3)
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14:29 [Users #t2]
14:29 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
14:29 [ cbrake ] [ Dallur] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin ]
14:29 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz] [ write_erase]
14:29 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
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14:45 < kic-> hola
14:45 < kic-> Rene, you around?
14:51 < rxr> yes, hi
14:52 < kic-> hiya
14:52 < kic-> we're hurting
14:52 < kic-> heh
14:52 < kic-> boss wants a 20-30mb x86 target
14:53 < kic-> do you happen to have a config or target that you previously created around that size?
14:53 < rxr> kic-: query in private ?
14:53 < kic-> sure
14:53 < Fatal> what? private, then I can't absorb information. *sniffles*
14:53 < Fatal> :D
15:00 < rxr> Fatal: don't worry, you have a lot sources in the t2/trunk to absorb :-)
15:00 < rxr> plus the ever growing handbook :-)
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15:30 < CIA-9> rene * r24854 /trunk/scripts/Create-PkgList:
15:30 < CIA-9> * improved scripts/Create-PkgList to feed gawk with the script via
15:30 < CIA-9> stdin, as on the reference builder with about 50 more, unpolished
15:30 < CIA-9> packages the script reached the argument limit of Linux
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15:52 < CIA-9> rene * r24855 /trunk/package/network/dhcpcd/ (dhcpcd.desc nodetach_option.patch): * updated dhcpcd (1.3.22-pl4 -> 3.0.18)
16:05 < CIA-9> rene * r24856 /trunk/package/filesystem/e2fsprogs/ (e2fsprogs.desc makefile-libe2p-fix.patch): * updated e2fsprogs (1.39 -> 1.40)
16:13 < CIA-9> rene * r24857 /trunk/package/archiver/7zip/ (7zip.desc cross.patch): * updated 7zip (4.47 -> 4.48)
16:15 < CIA-9> rene * r24858 /trunk/package/base/pkgconfig/ (cross-compile.patch.cross pkgconfig.desc): * updated pkgconfig (0.21 -> 0.22)
16:20 < CIA-9> rene * r24859 /trunk/package/develop/gwenhywfar/gwenhywfar.desc: * updated gwenhywfar (2.5.4 -> 2.6.0)
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16:23 < kic-> =(
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16:36 < tri> re
16:37 < rxr> hi tri
16:37 < tri> ping netist
16:37 < tri> nice and interessting articel at the linux magazin :-)
16:39 < tri> err articel/article
16:41 < tri> i can't build gnome-python because libgnome
16:41 < tri> it says no package gnome-vfs-2.0 found but this is already build
16:45 < sepp> check config.log
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16:53 < tr1> hm i rebuild gnome-vfs with -force and now i can build libgnome without problems
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16:53 < tr1> hi emte
16:56 < tr1> hm i can't build gnome-python now...
17:01 < tr1> hm pybonobo.c error: bonobo.h no such file or directory
17:02 < sepp> do you have one?
17:02 < tr1> hm i have a gsf-input-bonoto.h and output-bonobo.h
17:03 < sepp> bonobo.h is part of libbonobo ...
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17:16 < kic-> hoorah for stage2
17:29 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-19-182-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #t2
17:35 < DeeKey> Hello ALL!
17:41 < sepp> hello DeeKey
17:46 < tr1> cu
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17:50 < misl> hi folks
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18:03 < rxr> http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/dayone/fifthavenue.html
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18:14 < kic-> i want an i-phone
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18:26 < rxr> kic-: :-)
18:26 < rxr> unlike us you can get one over there ... :-(
18:27 [Users #t2]
18:27 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ Fatal] [ misl ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
18:27 [ cbrake ] [ Dallur] [ kic- ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
18:27 [ CIA-9 ] [ emte__] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz] [ wbx_ ]
18:27 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
18:30 < kic-> yeah, but they're expensive
18:30 < kic-> like $700 i think
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18:43 < rxr> wheren't they "just" 499 or so
18:43 < rxr> ++ the monthly AT&T fee
18:44 < rxr> hi keinek_
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18:44 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal]
18:45 < rxr> 4G: US$ 499, 8G: US$ 599
18:46 < kic-> ah
18:46 < kic-> maybe so
18:46 < kic-> i hadn't seen final prices yet
18:46 < kic-> only what i read in some previous articles prior to release
18:46 < kic-> so thats good news, they're not as expensive as i thought
18:47 < kic-> maybe i'll go grab one
18:47 < kic-> :D
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19:10 < rxr> re
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19:46 < CIA-9> rene * r24860 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin/xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin.desc: * updated xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin (1.9.2 -> 1.9.4) - Version tag was out of sync!
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19:49 < CIA-9> rene * r24861 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-radio-plugin/xfce4-radio-plugin.desc: * updated xfce4-radio-plugin (0.2.0 -> 0.2.1)
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19:57 < CIA-9> rene * r24862 /trunk/package/perl/perl-yaml/perl-yaml.desc: * updated perl-yaml (0.62 -> 0.65)
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20:12 < DeeKey> Hi !
20:12 < DeeKey> Can somebody help me with my problem: I am not able to get past kernel compilation. I suppose that the error is connected with silentoldconfig.. Full error log is here http://pastebin.com/941438
20:13 < DeeKey> the kernel is vanilla 2.6.19 and patched with one patch. I have custom config file.
20:13 < rxr> one silentoldconfig failure is ok, the script tries old-style first, and then new-style for newest kernels
20:13 * rxr loading that past
20:14 < rxr> make: *** No rule to make target `include/config/auto.conf', needed by `include/config/kernel.release'. Stop.
20:14 < rxr> ^- hm
20:15 < rxr> nice rtai
20:15 < rxr> that needs an update in t2
20:15 < rxr> can you publish your current state of patching?
20:15 < rxr> I would like to test it locally as well
20:15 < rxr> also any rtai work should not get lost .-)
20:17 < rxr> DeeKey: I need some evening dinner, very soon
20:17 < DeeKey> I will, but for now, I am not so very advanced in T2 to make any modifications.... I made a drill down in your RTAI package. But decided to try a straightforward way firs, to understand the way it works..
20:17 < DeeKey> ok Thanks anyway :)
20:17 < rxr> DeeKey: which times do you usually IRC to fix your build problem sometime soon ?
20:18 < DeeKey> Evenings.
20:18 < DeeKey> my time is GMT + 2
20:19 < rxr> heh - mine too
20:19 < rxr> where are you locate d?
20:19 < DeeKey> estonia, tallinn
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20:20 < rxr> DeeKey: can you send me your current working copy "svn diff" to rene @ t2-project . org? maybe I have a chance to start a test-build today
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20:20 < rxr> DeeKey: btw. Berlin, Germany on my side
20:20 < DeeKey> I know ;) I can, but I doubt it will be of use for you. I just took a WRT
20:21 < Ragnarin> oh rene did you see my message yesterday?
20:21 < DeeKey> project and removed all unneded parts... I can provide you with docs on build process..
20:21 < rxr> Ragnarin: not that I remember, which one ?
20:21 < Ragnarin> 130710 < Ragnarin> oh anyone mind if I move vserver on trunk to the patch that also includes grsec?
20:22 < rxr> DeeKey: I would like to help you get it build and also no RTAI work on T2 beeing lost, so any patch no matter how hacky it is is fine :-)
20:22 < DeeKey> Actually my aim is to create an embedded realtime distro based on RTAI and comedi
20:22 < rxr> Ragnarin: I'm not a vserver user, so -ENOIDEA :_)
20:22 < Ragnarin> lol
20:22 < DeeKey> ok I will do my best !
20:23 < Ragnarin> I want to play with it :)
20:23 < rxr> Ragnarin: so until someone using vserver screams I would say, just choose what you find reasonable
20:23 < Ragnarin> btw grsec isn't enabled by the normal 'select everything' kernel config ... any idea why?
20:23 < rxr> DeeKey: we used RTAI already a few times, unfortunatly not often enough to keep the RTAI bits in sync in t2/trunk
20:23 < Ragnarin> vserver is
20:24 < rxr> Ragnarin: in t2? in t2 only modules are flipped on automatically, if that is a normal boolean than it defaults to whatever is coded by the author in the Kconfig
20:24 < Ragnarin> ooh ok
20:24 < Ragnarin> that may explain it :)
20:24 < rxr> so - I really gotta go, hungry and susan is waiting ... :-)
20:24 < DeeKey> I see... There is a ongoing demand in RTAI thread for an embedded distros
20:24 < Ragnarin> have a good bite
20:24 < DeeKey> Bon appetite!
20:25 < DeeKey> see you!
20:25 < rxr> thank you - cu soon
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22:11 < tri> moin
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22:45 < rxr> moin tri
22:45 [Users #t2]
22:45 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz ] [ wbx ]
22:45 [ cbrake ] [ Fatal] [ misl] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ] [ write_erase]
22:45 [ CIA-9 ] [ kic- ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] [ valentin]
22:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
22:45 < LMJ> moin moin
22:45 < LMJ> just for fun, is OOo fixed ?
22:46 < rxr> should build, on 32bit
22:47 < rxr> but there are new ooo-build flavour available upstream
22:47 < rxr> did not yet check those
22:48 < rxr> ok - this was just a nightly UMTS visit - so cu tomorrow
22:48 < LMJ> cu
22:49 < LMJ> arg, i'm on 64
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