T2 IRC Log: 2007-06-19

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--- Log opened Tue Jun 19 00:00:21 2007
00:27 < Stelz> hellish guy..
00:45 -!- root [n=root@ppp85-140-190-116.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #t2
00:48 < root> What is stage9 =O
00:49 < Ragnarin> locally compiled with emerge-pkg
00:49 < root> All packages?
00:50 < Ragnarin> hm?
00:50 -!- root is now known as PAVLINUX
00:52 < kic-> damnit, built all the way until it got to the end of linux26 and compiling the kernel and modules
00:52 < kic-> grrrr
00:53 < PAVLINUX> Creating isofs.txt...
00:53 < PAVLINUX> What next&
00:54 < PAVLINUX> ?
00:57 < PAVLINUX> Creating iso/mycdset_cd1.iso
00:57 < PAVLINUX> Done. Have Fan!
00:57 < PAVLINUX> Hurraaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:57 < PAVLINUX> :)
00:57 < Ragnarin> lol
01:07 < PAVLINUX> did not find SCSI disk :(
01:08 < Ragnarin> did you tell grub to load the initrd?
01:09 < PAVLINUX> No. Where?
01:10 < Ragnarin> initrd /initrd-2.6.xx-dist.img after the kernel like in grub
01:11 < PAVLINUX> after BIOS?
01:11 < Ragnarin> in grub
01:12 < PAVLINUX> I not tell, but string exist
01:13 < PAVLINUX> (cd)/boot/initrd-2.6.21.4-dist.img
01:16 < Ragnarin> hm o_o
01:16 < Ragnarin> oh this is booting from cd?
01:16 < PAVLINUX> Yeh
01:17 < Ragnarin> o_o haven't done that in a while
01:17 < Ragnarin> usually use a knoppix boot cd to install
01:17 < PAVLINUX> ???
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01:28 < PAVLINUX> Ragnarin: You are lamer: scci_mod.scan=async ;-P
01:29 < Ragnarin> w/e
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01:52 < PAVLINUX> sysctl command not found
01:53 < PAVLINUX> On first boot
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02:01 < PAVLINUX> Today is good day, all thanx, see tommorow, good night!
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08:21 < rxr> moin
08:21 [Users #t2]
08:21 [@ChanServ ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
08:21 [ cbrake_away] [ Fatal] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
08:21 [ CIA-9 ] [ kic- ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz]
08:21 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
08:26 < CIA-9> susan * r24622 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-nv/xf86-video-nv.desc: * updated xf86-video-nv (2.0.96 -> 2.1.0)
08:27 < Fatal> morning
08:27 < Fatal> hrmph, util-linux dies an apparent death in stage 3, what's less obvious is why they don't include locale.h :P
08:30 < rxr> hm
08:31 < Fatal> or the maintainer for util-linux upstream messed things up, since enabling nls makes it find it again
08:32 < Fatal> (not that I'd want that)
08:33 < Fatal> ah
08:34 < Fatal> locale.h is pulled in by libintl.h if ENABLE_NLS is 1
08:38 < Fatal> == 06/19/07 08:34:33 =[3]=> Finished building package util-linux.
08:38 < Fatal> \o/
08:40 < Fatal> rxr: http://unixangst.com/locale_fuckup.patch no idea if that should be included, but it was needed on my system, or I would continue getting errors for every instance of LC_ALL (seems you guys have something for it already)
08:50 < rxr> pavlinux posted another solution for this to the mailing list
08:50 < rxr> --- ./configure 2007-06-19 00:11:14.704644531 +0400
08:50 < rxr> +++ ./configure 2007-06-19 00:10:00.000000000 +0400
08:50 < rxr> @@ -10466,7 +10466,7 @@
08:50 < rxr> }'
08:50 < rxr> fi
08:50 < rxr> -DEFS=-DHAVE_CONFIG_H
08:50 < rxr> +DEFS="-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLC_ALL=6 -DLC_NUMERIC=1"
08:53 < Fatal> sounds more dangerous to assume values
08:53 < rxr> yeah
08:53 < rxr> I go apply your patch
08:53 < Fatal> but I'm not saying mine is the correct one
08:53 < rxr> if someone comes with an better one we can still update it
08:53 < Fatal> I still think it's quite unlikely they've made a mistake like that
08:54 < Fatal> but then again, maybe I put too much faith in people :)
08:57 < rxr> you build with nls disabled, right ?
08:58 < Fatal> yes
08:59 < rxr> what is your real name for the svn commit log ?
09:02 < CIA-9> rene * r24623 /trunk/package/base/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
09:02 < CIA-9> * fixed pam and vlock to cross build
09:02 < CIA-9> * fixed vlock without pam patch to apply again and prettified
09:02 < CIA-9> the conditional code
09:04 < CIA-9> rene * r24624 /trunk/package/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
09:04 < CIA-9> * fixed bluez-utils to cross build
09:04 < CIA-9> * guided gtk+ to not pick up the host system's cups-config on cross
09:04 < CIA-9> build as well as not to build the tests and examples
09:04 < CIA-9> rene * r24625 /trunk/package/audio/ (alsa-tools/alsa-tools.desc flac/flac.desc lame/lame.desc): * marked alsa-tools, lame, and flac to cross build, now
09:06 < rxr> ok - I use the whois info from your domain :-)
09:06 < CIA-9> rene * r24626 /trunk/package/base/util-linux/fix-nls-disabled.patch:
09:06 < CIA-9> Thomas Nilsson:
09:06 < CIA-9> * fixed util-linux for building with NLS disabled
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09:08 < tri> moin
09:08 < rxr> moin tri
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09:08 [@ChanServ ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
09:08 [ cbrake_away] [ Fatal] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ tri ]
09:08 [ CIA-9 ] [ kic- ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz] [ valentin]
09:08 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
09:09 < CIA-9> susan * r24627 /trunk/package/gnome2/metacity/metacity.desc: * updated metacity (2.18.3 -> 2.18.5)
09:11 < tri> wups Kernel panic
09:11 < tri> Coe: Bad EIP value
09:11 < tri> Fatal exeption in interrupt
09:14 < Fatal> don't look at me
09:14 < tri> ;-)
09:15 < tri> hm after the second reboot the system is no booting
09:15 < tri> hm strange
09:36 < rxr> http://www.thinksecret.com/
09:36 < rxr> If you can see this, it means that the installation of the Apache web server software on this system was successful. You may now add content to this directory and replace this page.
09:47 < CIA-9> rene * r24628 /trunk/package/network/silc-toolkit/silc-toolkit.desc:
09:47 < CIA-9> * reverted r24020: downdated silc-toolkit (1.1-beta2 -> 1.0.2), as
09:47 < CIA-9> pidgin does now build with the 1.1-beta2 version
09:51 < tri> hm pidgin doesn't build with 1.1 ?
09:55 < rxr> tri: the new one does build with 1.1
09:55 < rxr> the commit above reverts the former downdate ...
09:55 < rxr> the message might be a bit cryptic ... :-(
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10:03 < tr1> re
10:03 < tr1> ah ok
10:03 < tr1> no shard files found in silc-toolkit 1-1 ?
10:03 < rxr> nope
10:03 < rxr> I first added the 1.1 version when you asked for it
10:04 < rxr> and just later noticed pidgin does not build with it
10:04 < rxr> so I quickly downdated it and that was where this shared file error slipped in
10:04 < rxr> but sidl-toolkit 1.1 is fine
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10:08 < tri> hm damm internet connection...
10:08 < tri> silc-toolkit 1.1 is fine ?
10:08 < rxr> 10:03 < rxr> I first added the 1.1 version when you asked for it
10:08 < rxr> 10:04 < rxr> and just later noticed pidgin does not build with it
10:08 < rxr> 10:04 < rxr> so I quickly downdated it and that was where this shared file
10:08 < rxr> error slipped in
10:08 < rxr> 10:04 < rxr> but sidl-toolkit 1.1 is fine
10:09 < tri> hm here silc-toolkit 1.1 says shared files with libidn
10:09 < rxr> if you had shared files already from the former silc-toolkit, ...
10:09 < rxr> try mine -rf silc-toolkit
10:10 < rxr> and re-Emerge
10:10 < rxr> package installs accumulate file lists as otherwise you would get orphaned, lost files
10:10 < tri> ah ok i try it again
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11:01 < tri> hm forgot it again what is the emerge world in t2 ?
11:04 < rxr> hm?
11:08 < tri> update every package which is installed
11:08 < tri> ./Emerge-Pkg system or so ?
11:11 < rxr> -system, yes
11:11 < tri> ah yes sorry
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11:43 [@ChanServ ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ] [ write_erase]
11:43 [ cbrake_away] [ Fatal] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ tri ]
11:43 [ CIA-9 ] [ kic- ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz] [ valentin]
11:43 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
11:44 < rxr> moin sepp and write_erase
11:44 < sepp> moin rxr :)
11:44 < write_erase> hi
11:44 < write_erase> Damned ACPI ...
11:45 < write_erase> This realy sucks
11:45 < rxr> yeah
11:45 < sepp> exactly
11:46 < write_erase> sysctl hw.acpi.osname="Windows 2001" ... Can't beleive I have to try that
11:50 < tri> hi sepp
11:50 < tri> hi write_erase
11:50 < write_erase> hi tri
11:54 < sepp> hi tri
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12:09 < tri> hi Dallur
12:10 [Users #t2]
12:10 [@ChanServ ] [ Dallur] [ kic-] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz] [ valentin]
12:10 [ cbrake_away] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX]
12:10 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ tri ]
12:10 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
12:14 < Dallur> hey
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12:21 < rxr> hi Dallur
12:21 < CIA-9> rene * r24629 /trunk/package/ (9 files in 7 dirs):
12:21 < CIA-9> * fixed raidtools to cross build, including rewriting the entire .conf
12:21 < CIA-9> * fixed libidl to cross build,, including cleaning the .conf
12:21 < CIA-9> * marked gnome-mime-data, gtk-engines, gtkspell, gnome-menus, and
12:21 < CIA-9> cairomm to just cross build, now
12:25 < mtr> hi *
12:27 < rxr> hi mtr
12:28 < rxr> mtr: I hope you enjoy me extended CROSS-work days ?
12:29 < rxr> 12:23 package# grep CROSS */*/*.desc | wc -l
12:29 < rxr> 12:23 788
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12:38 < mtr> rxr: :)
12:40 < mtr> ... and we will cross-build kde and gnome some day ;)
12:47 < CIA-9> mtr * r24630 /trunk/package/network/pilot-link/pilot-link.conf:
12:47 < CIA-9> * fixed pilot-link BlueZ support (patching configure.ac is noneffective
12:47 < CIA-9> without re-creating configure ...)
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13:03 < tri> re
13:15 < rxr> mtr: for gnome mostly only orbit is missing
13:15 * rxr working on that
13:15 < rxr> qt/kde might already cross build, did not try yet :-)
13:16 < rxr> though I guess the kde moc & co suff needs some attention
13:16 < rxr> I some more base gtk/gnome stuff already cross build, maybe most of gpe - test build still running
13:19 < rxr> libsoup built - changes: 1
13:19 < rxr> vte built - changes: 1
13:19 < rxr> libgsf built - changes: 1
13:19 < rxr> gtkmm built - changes: 1
13:19 < rxr> libglademm built - changes: 1
13:19 < rxr> ^- already built
13:20 < rxr> ^1 change == CROSS tag ...
13:31 < CIA-9> rene * r24631 /trunk/package/xorg/driconf/driconf.desc:
13:31 < CIA-9> * reverted r23595 on driconf.desc, accidently got marked CROSS
13:31 < CIA-9> during the introduction of the new CROSS tag
13:34 < CIA-9> rene * r24632 /trunk/package/x86/nasm/nasm.desc:
13:34 < CIA-9> * reverted r24346 and r24270: effectively downdating nasm (0.99.01 ->
13:34 < CIA-9> 0.99.00 -> 0.98.39), to avoid regressions with MMX et al. instructions
13:34 < tri> yep that's a good one
13:34 < tri> :-)
13:35 < rxr> :-)
13:35 < tri> i allready downdated my nasm and mplayer xine etc. are now compiling
13:36 < rxr> tri: T2 is just fun to work with, hm ?
13:38 < rxr> mtr: .oO(around 67 packages in my current auto-hunting CROSS tag build could be fixed by just fixing further "write outside basedir" cruft)
13:38 < rxr> of course I already fixed tons of those ... - but 67 more :-) Hm. I know what I have to do next :-)))
13:39 < rxr> I guess we can get about 1000 -> thus 33% of the packages cross building until 7.0
13:42 < tri> yes t2 is really nice
13:46 < CIA-9> mtr * r24633 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtksourceviewmm/ (. gtksourceviewmm.cache gtksourceviewmm.desc): * added gtksourceviewmm (0.3.1) - C++ wrapper for the gtksourceview widget library
13:49 < rxr> heh - gkrellm just cross-built
13:49 < rxr> and gworldclock
13:50 < rxr> ok - so most of the gnome desktop is there, now :-)))
13:53 * rxr coffe
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13:57 < rxr> +e
14:15 [Users #t2]
14:15 [@ChanServ ] [ Dallur] [ kic-] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz ]
14:15 [ cbrake_away] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
14:15 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
14:15 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
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14:24 < tri> hm tpb needs 1mb ram...
14:24 < CIA-9> rene * r24634 /trunk/package/xorg/xdm/xdm.desc: * changed xdm build priority (112.600 -> 179.000), to build after PAM, now that we can cross build PAM :-)
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14:28 < rxr> lol: http://www.google.com/search?q=t2+pam&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
14:28 < rxr> Pamwatch : Pamela Denise Anderson's Biography
14:28 < rxr> http://pamwatch.com/bio.html
14:30 < CIA-9> rene * r24635 /trunk/package/x11/worker/ (worker.cache worker.desc): * updated worker (2.10.2 -> 2.15.0)
14:54 < CIA-9> rene * r24636 /trunk/package/develop/cmake/cmake.desc:
14:54 < CIA-9> * changed cmake build priority (150.000 -> 120.000), build it way
14:54 < CIA-9> earlier, as needed by libmusicbrainz
14:57 < tri> hm what about that "automatic build order" :-)
14:58 < tri> just jokeing
14:58 < rxr> yeah, someone go implement it :-)
14:58 < rxr> I'm busy making sure more and more packages cross build :-)
15:05 < tri> what does cross build in t2 mean: you can build the package for every architecture t2 supports under your standard x86 ?
15:13 < sepp> yes
15:14 < tri> so gnome can be build for avr32 ?
15:15 < sepp> gnome not yet
15:24 < rxr> some gnome base stuff
15:24 < rxr> gpe more so
15:24 < rxr> for gnome the next big showstopper is orbit2
15:25 < rxr> I can commit some big work on orbit2, but it does not yet build thru, trying to execute a halper cross built for the cross CPU, now
15:25 < rxr> but I hunt some other stuff right now
15:26 < kic-> rene
15:26 < kic-> can i /msg you for a second?
15:26 < rxr> kic-: sure
15:26 < CIA-9> rene * r24637 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfce4util/xfce4-conf.in:
15:26 < CIA-9> * guarded the xfce4 prefix helper for undefined xfce4 prefix as we do
15:26 < CIA-9> for kde, gnome and e17, et al. already
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15:27 < rxr> ./SortCrossBuilds.sh | wc -l
15:28 < rxr> kic-: note that this freenoce irc network requires you to be authenticated to post private messages :-(
15:28 < kic-> oh
15:28 < kic-> really?
15:28 < rxr> welcome back write_erase
15:28 < kic-> god, ircd has changed alot :D
15:28 < kic-> ok
15:29 < rxr> kic-: if you tried to query me already, you probably got a message in your private channel about the need to register already
15:29 < rxr> I like this neither
15:29 < write_erase> rxr Suspend on Ram troubleshooting / panics :- )
15:29 < rxr> kic-: you can also drop me mails if that is more comfortable :-)
15:29 < rxr> rene @ exactcode . de
15:29 < kic-> there, re-pasted my querys
15:31 < tri> i have god a few message at boot time about a missing group lp or so ?
15:31 < tri> anybody know something about this ?
15:32 < rxr> tri: yes, that is a) due to new u/dev and b) that there ar eno /etc/groop file in the initrd
15:32 < rxr> tri: the messages are just cosmetic, but we plan to address them before 7.0-final
15:33 < kic-> mount -o loop initrd*.img
15:33 < kic-> edit etc/passwd and etc/group
15:33 < kic-> :D
15:35 < tri> yes i thought that they are only cosmetic, how to solve then - may i can help there ?
15:38 < rxr> we did not device about the best way
15:38 < rxr> possible "solutions" range from:
15:38 < rxr> - patching u/dev to shut up
15:38 < tri> hm :-)
15:38 < rxr> - copying the /etc/{passwd,group} files into the initrd in mkinitrd
15:38 < rxr> - and whatever else comes to mind
15:38 < rxr> maybe also review what SuSE and RedHat do ...
15:39 < tri> hm i have a look there
15:39 < tri> the mkinitrd <- ones again...
15:39 < rxr> ah - yes, you know it already :-)
15:39 [Users #t2]
15:39 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur] [ kic-] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz] [ valentin ]
15:39 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX] [ write_erase]
15:39 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ tri ]
15:39 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
15:39 < tri> ;-)
15:43 < rxr> mtr: I have the next 50 cross compiling fixes and marks ready for commit :-)
15:43 < kic-> woo
15:43 < tri> is mkinitrd using initramfs ?
15:43 < kic-> any x86_64 cross compile fixes?
15:46 < rxr> x86-64 compiles already since ages
15:46 < kic-> ok
15:46 < kic-> :D
15:46 < rxr> actually T2 got 64bit aware for Ultra SPARC long before AMD64 was on the horizon :-)
15:46 < kic-> i'm trying it again now
15:46 < kic-> hehe
15:46 < kic-> this is an intel 64
15:46 < kic-> xeon
15:48 < rxr> yeah - all the same x86_64 to the compiler anyway :_)
15:50 < kic-> :D
15:55 < tri> cu
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15:56 < CIA-9> rene * r24638 /trunk/package/network/fnord/ (cross.patch fnord.conf fnord.desc):
15:56 < CIA-9> * fixed fnord: to not always link against dietlibc, to cross build and
15:56 < CIA-9> marked it CROSS and DIETLIBC
16:03 < CIA-9> mtr * r24639 /trunk/package/archiver/rpm/rpm.conf:
16:03 < CIA-9> * fixed rpm: evaluate the correct python version instead
16:03 < CIA-9> of the hardcoded 2.4
16:05 < CIA-9> rene * r24640 /trunk/package/xorg/xdriinfo/xdriinfo.desc:
16:05 < CIA-9> * removed CROSS mark from xdriinfo accidently introduced in r23595,
16:05 < CIA-9> likewise (we can not yet cross compile mesa, ...)
16:05 < rxr> Committed revision 24641.
16:05 < CIA-9> rene * r24641 /trunk/package/ (52 files in 42 dirs):
16:05 < CIA-9> * marked the next 42 packages to cross compiles, fixed many of them
16:05 < CIA-9> to actually cross build at all
16:06 < rxr> ^- contains some gnome and gpe packages
16:15 < CIA-9> rene * r24642 /trunk/package/base/libtool/parse-config: * teached libtool to handle cross builds more gracefully
16:24 < kic-> hrm
16:24 < kic-> rene
16:24 < kic-> yanno how you make a default config with scripts/Config
16:24 < kic-> and no arguments
16:24 < kic-> is for the base system you're currently running on, right?
16:24 < kic-> and then you can use the Emerge-Pkg scripts for the current running system
16:25 < kic-> is it possible to take the base running system, and create installation iso's
16:25 < kic-> of the base running system?
16:25 < kic-> instead of building a new target
16:25 < kic-> ?
16:27 < rxr> re
16:27 < rxr> kic-: hm - we do not support yet to make an install / live snapshot of the running system
16:28 < kic-> ahh
16:28 < rxr> T2 is more about exactly defining what is wanted in a target
16:28 < kic-> k
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16:28 < rxr> and be able to rebuild this on-demand (like on security fixs) in a controlled and reliable fashin
16:28 < rxr> fashion
16:28 < kic-> right, k
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16:28 < rxr> when you snapshot the running system you get security problems, like fixed included ssh hostkey, passwords, etc. etc
16:29 < kic-> yeah
16:29 < rxr> and of course the issue that you include random junk into the system a whole lot of stuff you probably did not even know you had on it
16:29 < kic-> right
16:29 < rxr> T2 allows to get also a good overview what additional stuff goes into the system - watch target/archivista/rootfs
16:29 < rxr> for an in-depth example
16:30 < rxr> all preconfiguratoin and custom scripts live there and they have a complete and comprehensive overview who did add what at which time or modified it and an 1:1 map what beside the vanilla software is modified
16:33 < rxr> oh - lol: r
16:33 < rxr> err oh - lol: Characters K, L, M, X, Y, Z, k, l, m, x, y, z do not appear on the Title Input screen of the Edit menu.
16:33 < rxr> http://esupport.sony.com/perl/news-item.pl?template=EN&news_id=82
16:51 < CIA-9> rene * r24643 /trunk/package/multimedia/vlc/vlc.desc: * updated vlc (0.8.6b -> 0.8.6c)
17:21 < kic-> rene
17:21 < kic-> you go to bed yet?
17:21 < kic-> or still here
17:23 < rxr> sill here
17:23 < rxr> it is "just" 17:23 here :-)
17:23 < kic-> oh
17:23 < kic-> nice
17:23 < kic-> :D
17:24 < kic-> i just spoke to the CEO, i'll /msg you again
17:50 < kic-> brb, gotta reconfigure router
17:50 < kic-> joy
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17:57 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
17:57 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz]
17:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
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18:15 < misl> hi folks
18:15 < rxr> hi misl
18:16 < misl> hi rxr :-)
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18:27 < rxr> wb kic-
18:27 [Users #t2]
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18:27 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz]
18:27 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal ] [ misl] [ rxr ] [ TobiX]
18:27 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
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18:50 < kic-> dual firewalls + double NAT = ftw
18:52 < Dallur> kic: throw in a vpn or two with same reserved IP addresses used on both ends and you got yourself a party
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19:12 < CIA-9> rene * r24644 /trunk/package/ (24 files in 13 dirs):
19:12 < CIA-9> * fixed the next bunch of 13 packages to cross build: validator,
19:12 < CIA-9> srecord, text2pdf, keynote, sysklogd, dmraid, cracklib, multican,
19:12 < CIA-9> barcode, enscript - or marked them to just cross build, now: pidgin,
19:12 < CIA-9> lcms, dcraw
19:12 < CIA-9> * fixed barcode to have a non-empty I tag on-the-way
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20:07 < tri_> hoi!
20:09 < sepp> oi
20:10 < rxr> hi tri_ and sepp
20:11 < tri_> hi sepp
20:11 < tri_> hi rxr
20:13 [Users #t2]
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20:14 < CIA-9> rene * r24645 /trunk/package/ (16 files in 8 dirs):
20:14 < CIA-9> * fixed the next bunch of 8 packages to cross build: ipvsadm,
20:14 < CIA-9> ypbind, gpart, gnokii ,libdvdcss, mtools, pspresent, and vigra
20:15 < tri_> hm is this a CIA error or are there still packages which don't cross build ;-)
20:16 < rxr> well - we have nearly 3000 packages, and we got 850 that are known to cross build, now
20:16 < rxr> so still a room for improvement
20:17 < rxr> though some more than currently marked CROSS might already cross build, just a matter of need and testing
20:18 < tri_> so you did a lot of work today - starting from 8 pm till now every few hours some cross build cia message :-)
20:18 < rxr> I work that long everyday (I'm not out at clients)
20:19 < rxr> but I go home now in some seconds
20:19 < rxr> btw. we have pretty commit stats online: http://svn.exactcode.de/
20:22 < Fatal> you do t2 at work?
20:22 < rxr> Fatal: yes, sure - we (ExactCODE GmbH, Germany) base 90% of our work on the T2 SDE
20:23 < Fatal> ah, nice
20:23 < rxr> (the remaining 10% is Mac OS X software :-)
20:23 < rxr> http://www.exactcode.de/
20:27 < rxr> so - /me heding off home - cu tomorrow
20:27 < CIA-9> rene * r24646 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.21.4 -> 2.6.21.5)
20:27 < Ragnarin> cya
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20:41 < tri_> how to build a new mkinitrd
20:41 < tri_> or is it build automaticly with every emerge-pkg kernel ?
20:45 < sepp> it is done in the kernel build
20:47 < sepp> ahh mk-initrd, that is an extra package
20:48 < sepp> base/mkinitrd ...
20:48 < tri_> ah ok
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20:49 < tri_> ah sorry i did mean the resulted initrd
20:49 < tri_> which is make by mkinitrd ;-)
20:49 < tri_> and right i look at the linux.conf it is make every kernel build
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20:55 < tri_> hi write_erase
20:55 < write_erase> hi
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21:05 < tri_> hm ipw3945 isn't working anylonger
21:06 < tri_> how to be sure that the linux.conf is looking for that pkg_patch thing's ?
21:07 < Ragnarin> tried the iwlwifi?
21:07 < sepp> the pkg_linux26_post.conf thing?
21:09 < tri_> is iwlwifi also working for ipw3945 ?
21:09 < tri_> yes i did mean the pkg_linux26_post.conf thing
21:09 < tri_> haven't found anythink about it in the linux26.log
21:09 < tri_> the build log
21:09 < Ragnarin> iwlwifi in intels experimental driver for the 3945 that doesn't need the binary daemon any more
21:09 < Ragnarin> is*
21:10 < tri_> ah nice
21:10 < tri_> so i could give it a try ?
21:11 < Ragnarin> would be nice ... I commited an update yesterday ... would be nice to get feedback on how much of it works already :)
21:11 < tri_> ok just try it
21:11 < tri_> do i need to rebuild the linux26 also ?
21:12 < Ragnarin> if you load the module in initrd you also need to copy the firmware
21:12 < Ragnarin> yea
21:13 < tri_> ha my patched mkinitrd should do this for my
21:13 < tri_> e
21:13 < Ragnarin> :)
21:13 < tri_> if the firmware would be installed into /lib/firmware
21:13 < Ragnarin> yea
21:14 < tri_> but the linux26 build should say samething about "pkg_linux26_post.conf" ... found or in the build log should be samething about the iwlwifi driver ?
21:14 < tri_> because i can't found anything...
21:14 < Ragnarin> iwlwifi: lib/firmware/iwlwifi-3945.ucode
21:15 < Ragnarin> hm o_o
21:15 < Ragnarin> does your package template exclude it?
21:15 < tri_> ah ok i did Emerge-pkg -force iwlwifi linux26
21:15 < tri_> and there is linux26 build first
21:16 < tri_> i use my "own" template - nearlly a generic copy
21:16 < Ragnarin> ah ok
21:16 < sepp> search 'Sub-building' in the log
21:17 < tri_> just one second i have to plug the laptop to the ethernet cable in the kitchen...
21:17 < tri_> because i don't have wifi anylonger :-)
21:17 < tri_> ah one other think: if i do su i don't can use halt i have to typ /sbin/halt ?
21:18 < tri_> hm and i think i remember the problem
21:19 < Ragnarin> use su -
21:19 < tri_> if the iwlwifi or ipw3945 is not in the package selection for the target the module isn't build by the linux26 script ?
21:19 < Ragnarin> yea
21:20 < tri_> ah ok that should be in the handbook :-)
21:38 < tri_> puh building the kernel takes long...
21:39 < kic-> arg
21:40 < kic-> build failed with chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash`: Exec format error
21:40 < Ragnarin> o_o
21:41 < kic-> not exactly sure what that means
21:41 < kic-> it was almost done building
21:41 < kic-> it was at package sysfiles, and moving onto the next package
21:41 < kic-> but failed with that
21:42 < kic-> and now..
21:42 < kic-> omfg
21:42 < kic-> if i re-run scripts/Build-Target -cfg system
21:42 < kic-> it just fails with that immediately
21:42 < kic-> weee
21:43 < kic-> hrm
21:44 < Ragnarin> does your target not match your build system?
21:45 < kic-> target is a minimal desktop with xorg
21:45 < kic-> their standard template
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22:04 < tri_> ok kernel build is finished
22:04 < tri_> how to load the iwlwifi driver
22:04 < tri_> modprobe iwlwifi ?
22:05 < tri_> can't find module iwlwifie
22:05 < tri_> err iwlwifi
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22:05 < tri_> i have the firemware in /lib/firmware
22:06 < tri_> how to see if this module was build ?
22:09 < Ragnarin> iwl3945
22:09 < Ragnarin> is the module name
22:09 < tri_> do i have to load the mac80211 module before ?
22:11 < Ragnarin> should autoload
22:12 < tri_> hm module iwl3945 not found
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22:15 < Ragnarin> o-o
22:15 < Ragnarin> lib/modules/2.6.21.4-dist/kernel/drivers/net/wireles/iwl3945.ko <-- there?
22:16 < tri_> nop
22:16 < Ragnarin> o_o
22:16 < Ragnarin> and you do have iwlwifi in your config/.../packages ?
22:17 < tri_> yes
22:17 < tri_> with a X and 0.0.32
22:17 < tri_> ----5---- 800.001
22:18 < Ragnarin> o_o
22:18 < Ragnarin> weird ...
22:18 < tri_> i also have it in config/mgm/pkgsel
22:18 < tri_> X iwlwifi
22:18 < Ragnarin> and you did Emerge-Pkg -cfg mgm -force linux26 ?
22:18 < tri_> hm and also at the kernel log
22:18 < tri_> yes
22:19 < tri_> ther is sub-building 3rd party module package iwlwifi
22:19 < tri_> ah mac80211 headers not found int
22:19 < tri_> it says int the kernel log
22:19 < tri_> please install the mac80211 subsystem
22:19 < Ragnarin> o_o
22:20 < Ragnarin> hmmm
22:20 < tri_> headers not found in /lib/modules/2.6.21.4-dist/source/include/net
22:20 < tri_> Terminating
22:20 < tri_> make Error 2
22:20 < tri_> Done building iwlwifi
22:20 < tri_> hm
22:20 < tri_> i have the standard t2 kernel config
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22:22 < Ragnarin> o_o wrong path
22:22 < tri_> hm wrong path ?
22:22 < kic-> /lib/modules =! lib/modules
22:23 < Ragnarin> yea
22:24 < tri_> sorry didn't get that ?
22:24 < kic-> /lib/modules looks like its in your current running system
22:24 < kic-> lib/modules is underneath the t2 build directory
22:24 < kic-> i believe
22:25 < tri_> so the iwlwifi package should not look in /lib/modules... but in lib/modules ?
22:25 < kic-> can't say for sure, only been using t2 since friday :D
22:26 < kic-> but if its going through the build process, it should not be looking in /lib
22:26 < kic-> but in a chrooted lib/ directory, under t2
22:26 < tri_> yes make sence
22:26 < tri_> i think Ragnarin is allready working at a patch ? :-)
22:27 < Ragnarin> can you check for me what these vars are in your build : KSRC D80211_INC KVER MAC80211_INC KMISC KMISC_INC KSRC_OUTPUT
22:27 < tri_> yes sure
22:27 < tri_> how to ?
22:27 < tri_> set |grep ... ?
22:28 < Ragnarin> should be in the log file
22:28 < Ragnarin> in the make call
22:28 < tri_> ah ok
22:28 < tri_> krsc=/home/tri/Dev/t2/trunk/src...../linux-2.6.21
22:29 < tri_> D80211_INC="same as above"+/include/net/
22:29 < tri_> KVER=2.6.21.4-dist
22:29 < tri_> MAC80211_INC=/lib/modules/2....-dist/source/include/net
22:29 < tri_> ah!
22:30 < tri_> KMISC=/homte/tri...../linx-..../include
22:30 < Ragnarin> ok that seems to make it go off
22:30 < Ragnarin> but why does it work for me ... o_o
22:30 < tri_> how to change the MAC80211_INC var or where is it from ?
22:32 < Ragnarin> hmpf rene changed that from what I commited ... o_o
22:33 < tri_> ah !
22:35 < tri_> hm the last iwlwifi commit is from ragnar 06-18 ?
22:35 < Ragnarin> yea that was the update
22:35 < tri_> do you mean
22:35 < tri_> * fixed iwlwifi to not run depmod, likewise
22:36 < tri_> ?
22:36 < Ragnarin> no that's different
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22:37 < Ragnarin> hm
22:38 < Ragnarin> can you edit package/network/iwlwifi/postlinux.conf and change MAC80211_INC to be $kerneldir/include ?
22:41 < tri_> done
22:41 < Ragnarin> and rebuild the kernel
22:41 < Ragnarin> and see if that works ... bbl tho need lunch ... be back in about an hour
22:42 < tri_> kerneldir/include/net
22:42 < tri_> or only $kerneldir/include
22:43 < Ragnarin> $kerneldir/include I think
22:43 < Ragnarin> or ... hmmmm
22:43 < tri_> without ending /
22:43 < Ragnarin> no try $kerneldir/include/net
22:43 < tri_> hm is that kernel/drivers/net/wirles right ?
22:43 < tri_> err wireles
22:44 < tri_> shouldn't it be wireless ?
22:44 < tri_> not sure
22:44 < Ragnarin> that's the module dir
22:45 < Ragnarin> different thing
22:45 < Ragnarin> bbl tho
22:45 < tri_> cu ;-)
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23:02 < tri_> hm still header not found in
23:03 < tri_> in /home/tri/Dev/t2/trunk/src..../linux-2.6.21/include/net
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