T2 IRC Log: 2006-11-21

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--- Log opened Tue Nov 21 00:00:42 2006
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00:11 < mnemnonic> hm
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00:16 < mnemnonic> How does t2 determine the default configuration of the kernel?
00:19 < emte> based on your target
00:20 < emte> t2-trunk/target/desktop/kernel.conf
00:21 < mnemnonic> Ah, i c
00:33 < mnemnonic> Jappa dappa duuuh .... 113 of 150 nodes booted up ;)
00:34 < sepp> uhh ?
00:37 < mnemnonic> A little experiment with the new kernel and booting over network
00:37 < _Ragnar_> rxr: we might have to put some delay into the initrd rc script
00:38 < _Ragnar_> it tries to mount a scsi hd before the controller got in properly running
00:38 < _Ragnar_> it*
00:38 < mnemnonic> ... I rather think I should check the mac-adresses dhcp ;)
00:38 < mnemnonic> ... there is no initrd in my kernelvconfig now
00:51 < mnemnonic> hehe, at least this is now enough power to quickly rebuild t2 ;)
00:52 < _Ragnar_> you might have the same problem with a modular kernel I guess:P
00:55 < emte> _Ragnar_, you have a funny scsi card?
00:55 < emte> usually its bios controlls boot/powerup delay
00:56 < emte> atleast mine do
00:56 < _Ragnar_> I have two scsi cards.
00:56 < _Ragnar_> the first one would do ... but the second scans the bus too late.
01:00 < _Ragnar_> the boot device is on the second :p
01:01 < sepp> you have to turn it on more slowly
01:01 < sepp> :)
01:04 < emte> ...
01:04 < emte> why would you boot on the second card?.
01:04 < emte> he could increase the waitime on the first card
01:26 < _Ragnar_> why do I even bother ....
01:32 < emte> now that i think of it, that would depend on the capabilities of your cards
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01:39 < mnemnonic> I am leaving now ... n8
01:39 < kensai> 0_o
01:39 < kensai> starnge name that is
01:39 < kensai> very familiar
01:39 < kensai> hi guys
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08:50 < rxr> re
08:51 < _Ragnar_> hey rene
08:52 < rxr> _Ragnar_: we already try mounting the rootdevice for 10 seconds, no?
08:52 < rxr> _Ragnar_: or is that just in the livecd code path ?
08:52 < _Ragnar_> that doesn't seem to work tho
08:52 < _Ragnar_> no it's in the initrd
08:52 < rxr> _Ragnar_: of course we should give the device some time to detect the devices ...
08:53 < rxr> [ $(( i++ )) -eq 0 ] && echo "Waiting for root device to become ready ..."
08:53 < rxr> sleep 1
08:53 < rxr> ...
08:53 < rxr> ^- does not work ?
08:53 < _Ragnar_> aparently, when we try to mount the device before it's actually ready, it prevent it from every getting registered as a valid block device
08:53 < rxr> why that ?
08:53 < _Ragnar_> it prevents it from ever*
08:53 < _Ragnar_> I do not know
08:54 < _Ragnar_> it dumps me into the ramdisk of the initrd
08:54 < _Ragnar_> the nodes are in /dev as expected
08:54 < _Ragnar_> I do 'mount /dev/sda2 /rootfs' and it said 'no such device'
08:54 < rxr> ouh
08:54 < rxr> I never had problem with this stuff
08:55 < rxr> e.g. booting from usb/firewire disk / stick just fine
08:55 < rxr> maybe special kernel driver kernel bug ?
08:55 < rxr> "Wird bei Quaero gemauschelt?
08:55 < rxr> Bündnis 90/Die Grünen wollen von der Bundesregierung wissen, warum es keine öffentliche Ausschreibung für das mehr als 400 Millionen Euro schwere Suchmaschinen- und Digitalisierungsprojekt Quaero gab. Fragen gibt es auch zur Benennung der Projektleitung."
08:55 < rxr> ^- http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/81302
08:56 < _Ragnar_> o_O
08:56 < _Ragnar_> maybe a problem with the areca driver, possible
08:56 < _Ragnar_> but the mounting process would just barely make it for the also installed adaptec controller either
08:57 < _Ragnar_> inserting a sleep 10 before the loop fixes it
08:57 < _Ragnar_> but there has to be a cleaner solution to that ...
08:57 < rxr> my idea was waiting until it is ready is clean
08:57 < rxr> boots quickly when it is there immediatly and waits until it is there for slow devices
08:58 < rxr> puzzling that it prevents the device from working properly for you :-(
09:13 < CIA-9> rene * r20919 /trunk/package/develop/cogito/cogito.desc: * updated cogito (0.18.1 -> 0.18.2)
09:13 < CIA-9> rene * r20920 /trunk/package/base/man/man.desc: * updated man (1.6d -> 1.6e)
09:15 < _Ragnar_> yea o_O
09:15 < _Ragnar_> well I'm just assuming it's the mount that's blocking it
09:16 < rxr> strange
09:16 < rxr> it definetly shouldn't
09:18 < _Ragnar_> well the 10sec delay works
09:18 < _Ragnar_> so there's nothing fundamental wrong
09:34 < CIA-9> rene * r20921 /trunk/package/base/coreutils/ (coreutils.desc disable-duplicates.patch): * updated coreutils (6.4 -> 6.5)
09:37 < CIA-9> susan * r20922 /trunk/package/gnome2/control-center/control-center.desc: * updated control-center (2.16.1 -> 2.16.2)
09:43 < CIA-9> rene * r20923 /trunk/package/editors/nano/ (dl.patch nano.conf nano.desc): * updated nano (1.2.5 -> 2.0.1)
09:50 < sepp> moin
09:50 < rxr> moin sepp
09:50 < sepp> moin rxr :)
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10:25 < rxr> cool - skencil works now
10:26 < CIA-9> rene * r20924 /trunk/package/python/pil/pil.conf: * fixed pil to install the header files (at the location where Debian installs them)
10:26 < CIA-9> rene * r20925 /trunk/package/graphic/skencil/skencil.conf: * adapted skencil to use the PIL headers where we install them, now
10:33 < CIA-9> rene * r20926 /branches/6.0/package/ (graphic/skencil/skencil.conf python/pil/pil.conf):
10:33 < CIA-9> * merged r20924 and r20925:
10:33 < CIA-9> * fixed pil to install the header files (at the location where Debian installs them)
10:33 < CIA-9> * adapted skencil to use the PIL headers where we install them, now
10:51 < CIA-9> rene * r20927 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/ (distro.patch no_init.diff sysvinit.conf sysvinit.patch):
10:51 < CIA-9> Nigel :
10:51 < CIA-9> * cleaned sysvinit.conf and patching allowing to overwrite the DISTRO config
10:54 < rxr> urgs
10:55 < rxr> ls is segfaulting in one dir for me
10:58 < rxr> hm - after removing some stuff not anymore
10:58 < rxr> ...
10:58 < rxr> GNU hacker
10:59 < Stelz> haxx0rz
10:59 < Stelz> moin rxr
11:06 < rxr> hi Stelz
11:06 [Users #t2]
11:06 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ]
11:06 [ _Ragnar_] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
11:06 [ capey ] [ idealm] [ psycodad] [ shevegen] [ zod ]
11:06 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
11:23 < CIA-9> rene * r20928 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9:
11:23 < CIA-9> * always peal off the last host target triplet part in the dietlibc
11:23 < CIA-9> parse-config so it works also with uclibc as primary C library
11:32 < CIA-9> rene * r20929 /branches/6.0/package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9:
11:32 < CIA-9> * merged r20928 from trunk: always peal off the last host target
11:32 < CIA-9> triplet part in the dietlibc parse-config so it works also with
11:32 < CIA-9> uclibc as primary C library
12:11 < CIA-9> rene * r20930 /trunk/package/www/elinks/elinks.desc: * updated elinks (0.11.1 -> 0.11.2)
12:13 < rxr> http://www.frubar.net/
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12:58 < rxr> http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=677908&rl=1
12:58 < rxr> ^- Wii diassembly
14:07 < CIA-9> rene * r20932 /trunk/package/graphic/dcraw/dcraw.desc: * updated dcraw (8.42 -> 8.43)
14:08 < CIA-9> rene * r20931 /trunk/package/x11/afterstep/afterstep.desc: * updated afterstep (2.2.3 -> 2.2.4)
14:08 < CIA-9> rene * r20933 /trunk/package/games/scorched3d/ (. openal.patch scorched3d.cache scorched3d.desc): * added scorched3d (40.1d) - A 3D remake of the popular 2D artillery game Scorched Earth
14:20 < CIA-9> rene * r20934 /trunk/package/perl/perl-libxml/perl-libxml.desc: * updated perl-libxml (1.61 -> 1.62)
15:07 < CIA-9> rene * r20935 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.18.2 -> 2.6.18.3)
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16:15 < Baldzius> moin
16:16 < sepp> hi Baldzius :)
16:16 < Baldzius> hi sepp :)
16:17 < Stelz> hi sepp, Baldzius ;0
16:18 < Baldzius> hi Stelz
16:18 < sepp> hi Stelz :0
16:19 < rxr> moin Baldzius and Stelz !
16:19 < rxr> Baldzius: how are you ?
16:19 < Stelz> hi rxr :)
16:19 < Baldzius> moin rxr :)
16:22 < rxr> Baldzius: I think there are at least some pending security issues
16:22 < rxr> first I read in the linux magazine about some ncompress issue, then today there was gv - I think we even have an older version and then there was something else
16:24 < Stelz> ftp://slz.sytes.net/public/wallpapers/mustdie.png
16:25 < Stelz> :D
16:27 < rxr> Baldzius: ok - maybe we have the ncompress patch I read about ...
16:27 < Baldzius> rxr: yes , i have some pending but not familiar with gv or ncompress even, the last one was fixed for security issue some time ago
16:29 < rxr> yes, most probably that is what I read in the security overview in the linux mag as printed paper always is a bit older
16:29 < rxr> the other, newer I think is gzip
16:29 < rxr> so gzip and gv
16:30 < rxr> suprising this gv flaw even made it on the biggest german IT site ...
16:30 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/81336
16:30 < Baldzius> nothing heard about gzip, we have one security patch right now
16:31 * rxr should subsribe on some list
16:31 < rxr> what was the more open counterpart of bugtrack ?
16:32 < rxr> Baldzius: are you on one of those ?
16:32 < rxr> (lists)
16:32 < Baldzius> tracking http://nvd.nist.gov/
16:34 < rxr> a year ago I was on the more open bugtrack a-like
16:35 < rxr> forgot the name ... but it ended up with lengthy discussion about whatsover fluff that I unsubsribed when it reached somwhere the volume of linux-kernel ... :-(
16:37 < emte> hey
16:38 < rxr> hi emte
16:38 < emte> rxr, i saw that you added my changes ... do you remember what was with utmpdump?
16:41 < rxr> emte: it is not installed with the new Makefile setup anyway
16:41 < rxr> no idea why it was commented out - those lines have been from SVN r1 - that is lingering in the code base since unversioned times before SVN ...
16:42 < emte> ah
16:42 < emte> hmm
16:42 < emte> i broke usb on my host
16:43 < emte> stupid garbage linux usb drivers
16:44 < rxr> hum hum
16:49 < emte> great ... cant even kill the usbview process ...
16:57 < rxr> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvm-announce/2006-November/000020.html
17:19 < CIA-9> aldas * r20936 /trunk/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc:
17:19 < CIA-9> * updated dovecot (1.0rc12 -> 1.0rc15)
17:19 < CIA-9> * security update: CVE-2006-5973
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17:24 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-9] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ shevegen] [ zod ]
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17:24 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
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17:44 < CIA-9> aldas * r20937 /trunk/package/security/mod_auth_krb5/mod_auth_krb5.desc:
17:44 < CIA-9> * updated mod_auth_krb5 (5.0rc7 -> 5.2)
17:44 < CIA-9> * security update: CVE-2006-5989
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17:59 < misl> hi folks
18:01 < LMJ> nice for the mod_auth_krb5 update
18:51 < Baldzius> LMJ: it's only security update, doesn't compile anyway :/
18:52 < CIA-9> aldas * r20938 /branches/6.0/package/develop/trac/ (trac.conf trac.desc):
18:52 < CIA-9> * merged r20787 from trunk to branches/6.0:
18:52 < CIA-9> updated trac (0.9.4 -> 0.10.1)
18:52 < CIA-9> security update: CVE-2006-5848
18:56 < CIA-9> aldas * r20939 /branches/6.0/package/develop/trac/ (trac.conf trac.desc):
18:56 < CIA-9> * merged r20803, r20854 from trunk to branches/6.0:
18:56 < CIA-9> updated trac (0.10.1 -> 0.10.2)
18:56 < CIA-9> removed trac.conf, it breaks everything instead of helping at all
18:56 < CIA-9> security update: CVE-2006-5878
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19:40 < Demian> hi
19:41 < rxr> hi Demian
19:41 * rxr about to go for evening dinner ...
19:41 < Demian> hi rebe
19:45 < rxr> heh
19:45 [Users #t2]
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19:45 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ psycodad] [ shevegen] [ zod ]
19:45 [ Baldzius] [ Demian] [ misl] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ]
19:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
19:45 < rxr> Demian: welcome back
19:45 < rxr> too bad I've to consume some food now, cu then
19:45 < rxr> bye all
19:46 < Demian> enjoy t, thanks
19:47 < CIA-9> rene * r20940 /trunk/package/ (9 files in 9 dirs): * cleaned mirror prefix from dl.sourceforge... Download tags
19:56 < CIA-9> aldas * r20941 /trunk/package/graphic/libpng/libpng.desc:
19:56 < CIA-9> * updated libpng (1.2.12 -> 1.2.13)
19:56 < CIA-9> * security update: CVE-2006-5793
20:00 < CIA-9> aldas * r20943 /branches/6.0/package/security/mod_auth_krb5/mod_auth_krb5.desc:
20:00 < CIA-9> * merged r20937 from trunk to branches/6.0:
20:00 < CIA-9> updated mod_auth_krb5 (5.0rc7 -> 5.2)
20:00 < CIA-9> security update: CVE-2006-5989
20:01 < CIA-9> aldas * r20942 /branches/6.0/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc:
20:01 < CIA-9> * merged r20713, r20936 from trunk to branches/6.0:
20:01 < CIA-9> updated dovecot (1.0rc10 -> 1.0rc15)
20:01 < CIA-9> security update: CVE-2006-5973
20:23 < CIA-9> aldas * r20944 /branches/6.0/package/graphic/libpng/CVE-2006-5793.patch: * security update: added libpng/CVE-2006-5793.patch in branch/6.0
20:35 < LMJ> moin moin
20:40 < Demian> hi LMJ
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20:48 < kensai> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/HxvMz852.html
20:58 < kensai> nobody knows about that ^ little problem?
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22:34 < _Ragnar_> any fix for the coreutils 'ls' coredump?
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--- Log closed Wed Nov 22 00:00:44 2006