T2 IRC Log: 2006-11-20

This is the log as captured by an IRC bot in the channel. The statements are those of the individual people and might not neccessarily reflect the policy and legal rules as set forth by the T2 SDE Project.

« prev | next »

--- Log opened Mon Nov 20 00:00:41 2006
00:02 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E11685.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:02 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr
01:22 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.67.239.123] has joined #t2
02:00 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.67.239.123] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
02:09 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2
02:58 -!- idealm_ [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2
02:59 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
04:07 -!- ^Cricket^ [n=seth@fossug/t260g] has joined #t2
05:53 -!- ^Cricket^ [n=seth@fossug/t260g] has quit ["Leaving"]
06:04 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@80.240.210.253] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)]
06:06 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@80.240.210.253] has joined #t2
08:58 < rxr> re
09:03 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2
09:03 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
09:04 < rxr> ouhm: The C++ standardization committee has set 2009 as the target date for the version of the language standard. And a lot will change. C++09 will include at least two major core features -- rvalue references and type concepts -- and plenty more relatively minor features.
09:05 < _Ragnar_> o_O
09:10 < rxr> yeah :-(
09:11 < rxr> initially I hoped for C++ 04 or so ...
09:11 < rxr> not 09 :-((((((((((((((((((((
09:11 < _Ragnar_> *g*
09:11 < emte_> lol
09:11 < emte_> its a bit late for 04
09:12 -!- emte_ is now known as emte
09:12 < emte> hmm ... wonder why my connection dropped ...
09:20 < rxr> emte: yeah, that was a hope in 2002 or so ...
09:21 < rxr> I definetly never imagined it could take over 10 years for the next C++ ANSI standard ...
09:21 < rxr> :-((
09:24 < emte> no?
09:25 < emte> it was 89 and then what ... 93 and 01 for C wasnt it?
09:25 < emte> nope
09:25 < rxr> there is only one C++ standard so far - it is from 1998
09:26 < emte> invented 78 90 95 and 99
09:26 < emte> like anything with IEEE they take thier time
09:27 < emte> er wait
09:27 < emte> its not IEEE
09:27 < emte> its ISO isnt it
09:27 < emte> which is even longer
09:28 < emte> you have to fill out all the forms
09:28 < emte> :)
09:35 < sepp> moin :)
09:38 < emte> mooby
09:38 < sepp> o_O
09:38 < sepp> hi emte
09:38 < emte> ola
09:40 < sepp> i know why they added the session restore feature to firefox 2.0
09:40 < emte> cuz its great in opera?
09:41 < sepp> it is even crashing while you sleep and do nothing
09:41 < emte> handy when i need my resources back or need to update
09:44 < sepp> 2 new features in 2.0 and 1 is only there because of deevolution :/
09:53 < rxr> re
09:54 < sepp> moin rxr
09:54 < rxr> moin sepp
09:55 < rxr> I think with the latest SMC firmware update the MacBook fans are spinning up way quicker ...
09:56 < sepp> macbook got faster :-)
09:58 < rxr> I think rather they got to many burned MacBook back in repair ...
10:00 < rxr> (e.g. ones people fried eggs on ...=
10:00 < sepp> yeah, that was funny
10:01 < rxr> not as funny as the melting plastic polishing of my office desk ...
10:01 < rxr> s/polishing/finishing/
10:01 < sepp> :(
10:15 < emte> lol
10:15 < emte> and you wanted a cube
10:16 < emte> i should solder a damn jtag on my phone
10:16 < emte> its ticking me off
10:20 < emte> actually i'd settle for a filemanager
10:26 < emte> interesting ...
10:34 < CIA-9> susan * r20916 /trunk/package/gnome2/pygobject/pygobject.desc: * updated pygobject (2.12.2 -> 2.12.3)
10:42 < rxr> re
10:44 < emte> hmm
10:44 < emte> one of these must make noise
10:49 < emte> i need a way to access a raw serial stream in linux ... any ideas?
11:16 < mtr> emte: open("/dev/ttyS0", ...) and setup with tcgetattr/tcsetattr, set conversion and line terminators e.g.
11:16 < mtr> hi *
11:19 < rxr> hi mtr
11:22 < emte> its actually ttyUSB2 but i'll give it a spin
11:30 < CIA-9> rene * r20917 /trunk/package/multimedia/ffmpeg/ (ffmpeg.desc lame.patch uname-stderr.patch): * updated ffmpeg (2006-07-10 -> 2006-10-30)
11:30 < CIA-9> rene * r20918 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/ (lib64.patch mplayer.desc): * updated mplayer (2006-07-10 -> 2006-10-30)
12:06 -!- idealm_ [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
12:13 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.67.239.123] has joined #t2
13:34 [Users #t2]
13:34 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ]
13:34 [ _Ragnar_] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
13:34 [ capey ] [ idealm] [ psycodad] [ shevegen] [ zod ]
13:34 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
14:19 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/open/artikel/80563
14:19 < rxr> ^- Analyse: Erdbeben im Linux-Markt
14:19 < rxr> Oracle, Microsoft, Novell ? und die Folgen
15:42 [Users #t2]
15:42 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ]
15:42 [ _Ragnar_] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
15:42 [ capey ] [ idealm] [ psycodad] [ shevegen] [ zod ]
15:42 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
16:58 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
17:20 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.144.2.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
17:25 [Users #t2]
17:25 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ psycodad] [ sepp_ ] [ valentin]
17:25 [ _Ragnar_] [ emte ] [ misl] [ rxr ] [ shevegen] [ zod ]
17:25 [ capey ] [ idealm] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ Stelz ]
17:25 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
17:25 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.206.52.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)]
17:25 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp
17:25 < rxr> n'abend sepp and misl
17:26 < sepp> nabend :)
17:26 < misl> hi rxr
18:51 < LMJ> moin moin
18:51 < LMJ> ping rxr
18:52 < rxr> poing LMJ
18:52 * rxr is leaving right now to kick the power button of the osiris.tfh-berlin.de ...
18:52 < rxr> so if you wanna drop a note you better hurry ..
18:53 < LMJ> check your pm rxr
20:07 -!- `axion [n=axion@cpe-74-70-233-12.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2
21:08 -!- `axion [n=axion@cpe-74-70-233-12.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit ["leaving"]
22:12 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@80.240.210.253] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."]
22:13 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@80.240.210.253] has joined #t2
23:05 -!- mnemnonic [n=develop@p54964EE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
23:06 < mnemnonic> Hey, anybody here?
23:13 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.8/2006102516]"]
23:18 < sepp> i am not here :p
23:20 < sepp> hi mnemnonic
23:21 < mnemnonic> Hi ;)
23:23 < mnemnonic> I have a question ... I have built a t2-system and now I want to apply a custom kernel configuration. I placed the config according to the handbook, but ...
23:24 < mnemnonic> ... the build system does not rebuild any package at all. Isn't it aware of dependencies?
23:24 < sepp> the file is config/$yourconfig/linux.cfg
23:24 < mnemnonic> Exactly
23:25 < sepp> and you want to rebuild only the kernel?
23:27 < mnemnonic> Not sure ... I think, since the version of the kernel did not change and the kernelheaders do not change on reconfiguration it should be ok, just to rebuild the kernel ... but rebuilding everything would be absolutly safe
23:27 < sepp> rm build/.../TOLLCHAIN/var/adm/5-linux26.log
23:28 < sepp> if you restart Build-Target later it will build 5-linux26
23:29 < mnemnonic> Ah, thy that's probably what I am looking for ;)
23:30 < sepp> var/adm/logs/5-linux26.log
23:31 < sepp> if there was no error it will not rebuild it just because of the changed custom kernel config
23:31 < mnemnonic> Ok, not too comfortable, but I can live with that
23:32 < sepp> why do you want a custom kernel config?
23:33 < mnemnonic> Another question, can I use configurations when upgrading the whole t2?
23:33 < sepp> yes, on the installed system it is in /etc/SDE-CONFIG/
23:34 < mnemnonic> I need a custom kernel configuration, because initrd becomes to large for my target system
23:36 < sepp> ok
23:36 < sepp> mine is 2.5mb
23:37 < mnemnonic> ... a monolithic kernel is no choice either ... yes, mine was 2,5 or so, too
23:37 < Stelz> hehe mnemnonic. i saw you @ #openbsd :P
23:38 < mnemnonic> @ openbsd? ... doh, I must do things I am not aware of ;)
23:38 < Stelz> :)
23:39 < mnemnonic> ... netbsd is my choice for the sparcs here ;)
23:39 < Stelz> i tried netbsd 1 year ago..
23:40 < mnemnonic> ;) ... would be nice, to have netbsd a second kernel-choice in t2 !
23:40 < mnemnonic> +as
23:40 < Stelz> lol :>
23:41 < Stelz> i thought that too.. but now.. i think thats nothing is better than t2+openbsd :)
23:41 < mnemnonic> Hehe ... noone ever needs more that 640K Kernels ;)
23:42 < Stelz> :)
23:43 < mnemnonic> Not sure, but I think NetBSD would be a realy nice addition, since It compiles on a few plattforms that others don't
23:46 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E13EC6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2
23:51 < shevegen> hey by the way, are there any plans to setup a T2 specific forum?
23:51 < shevegen> T2/T6
23:52 < sepp> no
23:54 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E12B43.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
23:54 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr
--- Log closed Tue Nov 21 00:00:42 2006