T2 IRC Log: 2006-11-02

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--- Log opened Thu Nov 02 00:00:17 2006
02:00 -!- bl4ckth0rn [n=root@201.19.65.66] has joined #t2
02:00 < bl4ckth0rn> Hi.
02:01 < sepp> hi bl4ckth0rn
02:01 < bl4ckth0rn> Hey, I was buildind and then received a error message while compiling ncurses.
02:02 < bl4ckth0rn> one momment..
02:03 < bl4ckth0rn> "s-stalib.adb:40:41: language defined units may not be recompiled"
02:03 < sepp> that is the error?
02:03 < bl4ckth0rn> yeah
02:06 < sepp> hmm, no clue, publish the "ERROR-LOG" log somewhere and send a mail to the ml ;)
02:11 < sepp> i am tired, good night :)
02:11 < bl4ckth0rn> good
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04:12 < _Ragnar_> rxr: mmmm ;) it compiles linux26 in 10min ... and that's still in 32bit mode
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08:32 < rxr> moin
08:33 < rxr> _Ragnar_: yep my Core Duo already is quite fast
08:33 < rxr> _Ragnar_: and that in a MacBook not big MotherBoard ...
08:50 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0611/48706.html
09:09 < rxr> CIA-9: ??
09:09 < rxr> dead again, m
09:09 < rxr> hm even
09:09 [Users #t2]
09:09 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ] [ sepp ] [ zod]
09:09 [ _Ragnar_] [ emte ] [ mtr] [ shevegen]
09:09 [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ rxr] [ valentin]
09:09 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
09:15 < emte> nah not dead
09:15 < emte> doing another black-bag op
09:15 < emte> with the fbi
09:18 * emte chuckles
09:44 < emte> hmm ...
09:44 < emte> !> ./configure: line 4023: exit: ncurses: numeric argument required
09:45 < emte> wow ... didnt expect to get to psmisc
09:45 < rxr> any t2 related fixes yet ?
09:46 < emte> hard to say with what i am doing currently
09:46 < emte> i am lining up the core familiar build sequence
09:46 < emte> (without patches etc)
09:49 < emte> hmm what is tinfo ...
09:56 < emte> another runn to see if adding it helps
09:56 < emte> didnt see tinfo in the base dir
09:58 < sepp> ./scripts/Find-Pkg foo
09:58 < sepp> moin :)
10:06 < emte> was actually updating slocate :)
10:07 < emte> no hist uding that script
10:07 < emte> hits*
10:07 < emte> using*
10:07 < emte> hmm
10:08 < emte> but it seems psmisc depends on it ...
10:08 < sepp> well, i don't know what tinfo is - was just a hint for searching
10:08 < emte> something to do with terminal support
10:09 < emte> hmm
10:09 < emte> doesnt list it in the .cache tho
10:10 < emte> maybe ncurses can provide it as well ...
10:26 < emte> hmm
10:26 < emte> i would have thought busybox would provide it ...
10:27 < emte> are the .in files whitespace sensitive?
10:27 < emte> ie. can i make a spacing mess?
10:28 < sepp> you can make a mess, but it will not break things :)
10:28 < emte> good good, trying to visually sort inter deps
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10:35 < emte> lets try this again only trying to build busybox
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10:36 < emte> someone else want to take my communications exam tomorrow?
10:36 < emte> primarily only on AM stuff
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10:43 < emte> eam(t)=Ec(1+msin(wmt))sin(wct)
10:44 < emte> wrong sopt
10:44 < emte> spot*
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15:58 -!- rxr [n=rene@port-212-202-41-169.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2
15:58 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 6.0.1 Released! - trunk going for 7.0 | The Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
15:58 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Tue Oct 31 13:17:35 2006]
15:58 [Users #t2]
15:58 [@ChanServ] [ Baldzius ] [ CIA-5] [ idealm] [ mtr] [ shevegen]
15:58 [ _Ragnar_] [ bl4ckth01n] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr] [ zod ]
15:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
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15:58 -!- Irssi: #gsmp: Total of 2 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 2 normal]
15:58 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
15:58 -!- Channel #gsmp created Thu Nov 2 11:10:58 2006
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16:04 < CIA-5> rene * r20618 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (vnc-disable.sh vnc-enable.sh):
16:04 < CIA-5> * fixed the archivisat vnc enable/disable scripts to gain root priveledges and
16:04 < CIA-5> thus actually work
16:05 -!- valentin [n=valentin@port-212-202-41-169.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2
16:15 < CIA-5> rene * r20619 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/wodim.sh:
16:15 < CIA-5> * fixed archivista/wodim to use the next free track size instead of the media
16:15 < CIA-5> capacity which is not the whole disc with non rewriteable media :-(
16:30 [Users #t2]
16:30 [@ChanServ] [ Baldzius] [ emte ] [ LMJ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
16:30 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-5 ] [ idealm] [ mtr] [ shevegen] [ zod ]
16:30 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
16:42 < CIA-5> rene * r20620 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (update-restore.sh update-store.sh):
16:42 < CIA-5> * fixed archivista update store/restore permanent SSH code-chunk
16:42 < CIA-5> (was absolute vs. relative pathes)
17:19 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
17:20 < misl> hi folks
17:22 < CIA-5> rene * r20621 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/status.sh:
17:22 < CIA-5> * fixed a typo in archivista status and not to leak the output of
17:22 < CIA-5> a grep construct into the log
18:06 < CIA-5> rene * r20622 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/status.sh: * include disc usage in the archivista status information
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18:16 < Stelz> oh eh
18:16 < Stelz> hi all
18:16 < Stelz> hi rxr
18:17 < Stelz> sorry for my offline-state
18:17 < Stelz> my video card had been burned
19:08 < CIA-5> aldas * r20623 /trunk/package/filesystem/reiserfsprogs/ (no-coredump.patch reiserfsprogs.conf reiserfsprogs.desc):
19:08 < CIA-5> * updated reiserfsprogs (3.6.19 -> 3.6.20)
19:08 < CIA-5> * adapted no-coredump.patch for the new version
19:08 < CIA-5> * updated copyright notes
19:12 < CIA-5> aldas * r20624 /trunk/package/gnome2/gedit/gedit.desc: * updated gedit (2.16.1 -> 2.16.2)
19:12 < CIA-5> aldas * r20625 /trunk/package/mail/postfix/postfix.desc: * updated postfix (2.3.3 -> 2.3.4)
19:17 < rxr> hi Baldzius
19:17 < Baldzius> hi rxr
19:17 < CIA-5> aldas * r20626 /trunk/package/network/wireshark/wireshark.desc:
19:17 < CIA-5> * updated wireshark (0.99.3a -> 0.99.4)
19:17 < CIA-5> * security update: CVE-2006-4574, CVE-2006-4805, CVE-2006-5468, CVE-2006-5469, CVE-2006-5740
19:30 < CIA-5> rene * r20627 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/wodim.sh: * fixed new archivista wodim disc size detection
19:31 < CIA-5> aldas * r20628 /branches/6.0/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc:
19:31 < CIA-5> * merged r20547 from trunk to branches/6.0:
19:31 < CIA-5> updated mysql (5.0.26 -> 5.0.27)
19:32 < Stelz> rxr: i see u added .cache file for mc ?
19:32 < Stelz> hi Baldzius
19:32 < Baldzius> hi Stelz
19:33 < Stelz> my computer switched off instantly yesterday
19:37 < CIA-5> rene * r20629 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (wodim-setup.in wodim-setup.sh wodim.sh):
19:37 < CIA-5> * improved the archivista target to allow selecting the optical media
19:37 < CIA-5> writing speed
19:37 < rxr> Stelz: yep
19:38 < CIA-5> rene * r20630 /trunk/package/shells/mc/mc.desc:
19:38 < CIA-5> * fixed mc to not build by default as we shipped mc-mp for years
19:38 < CIA-5> and they share the same files
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19:38 < CIA-5> rene * r20631 /trunk/package/shells/mc-mp/mc-mp.desc: * removed superflous spacing from mc-sp.desc
19:38 < sacarde> helo
19:38 < rxr> hi sacarde
19:38 [Users #t2]
19:38 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-5 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ]
19:38 [ _Ragnar_] [ emte ] [ misl] [ sacarde ] [ valentin]
19:38 [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ mtr ] [ shevegen] [ zod ]
19:38 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
19:38 < Stelz> hi sacarde
19:39 < sacarde> some time ago, I have installed T2 into sun Ultra10
19:39 < sacarde> an old computer
19:40 < rxr> yeah - know them - nice little boxes :-)
19:40 < sacarde> it works OK
19:40 < rxr> sacarde: I hope you are happy with the installation ? :-)
19:40 < Stelz> he 'll be happy wth our new pkg-sys
19:40 < Stelz> :)
19:41 < sacarde> with t2 mailinglist I resolve some problems
19:41 < sacarde> do you suggest me to update system to 6.0.1 ?
19:41 < rxr> we did not build a sparc64 binary of 6.0.1
19:41 < rxr> also the build was not a desktop one but a minimal one
19:42 < rxr> but you can easily update your running machine from source
19:42 < sacarde> from source ?
19:42 < rxr> just checkout the 6.0 branch like this:
19:42 < rxr> svn co https://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/6.0 t2-6.0
19:42 < rxr> copy the build config like:
19:42 < rxr> cd t2-6.0
19:42 < rxr> mkdir config
19:42 < CIA-5> aldas * r20632 /branches/6.0/package/network/wireshark/wireshark.desc:
19:42 < CIA-5> * merged r20626 from trunk to branches/6.0:
19:42 < CIA-5> updated wireshark (0.99.3a -> 0.99.4)
19:42 < CIA-5> security update: CVE-2006-4574, CVE-2006-4805, CVE-2006-5468, CVE-2006-5469, CVE-2006-5740
19:43 < rxr> cp -arv /etc/SDE-CONFIG config/default
19:43 < rxr> run the Config:
19:43 < rxr> ./scripts/Config -oldconfig
19:43 < rxr> and let the system update your running system:
19:43 < rxr> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dry-run -system
19:43 < sacarde> with kde 3.5.5 ?
19:43 < rxr> the output should look in this way:
19:44 < rxr> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dry-run -system
19:44 < rxr> checking glibc ... New version (20051128 -> 20061002). Automatic update avoided.
19:44 < rxr> checking sysfsutils ... New version (2.0.0 -> 2.1.0). Added.
19:44 < rxr> checking file ... New version (4.17 -> 4.18). Added.
19:44 < rxr> sacarde: you mean bulding kde on the old box will take some time ?
19:44 < sacarde> I know, it simple to wait binary
19:46 < sacarde> for "system update" you think kernel ?
19:46 < rxr> yes, it would also update your kernel from 2.6.17.x to 2.6.17.14
19:47 < rxr> if you fear that will take too long on your U10 you might be quite right *g* :-)
19:47 < rxr> sacarde: I'll schedule a new sparc binary CD so you can update from binary more easily
19:48 < rxr> sacarde: maybe just stick around here and ask me every few days if it is ready :-)
19:49 < sacarde> it is important if changes are important
19:49 < Stelz> rxr: did u prepare some script for me to remove that "-dist" for the redefinition of version in linux26 and linux-header? ;-)
19:50 < rxr> Stelz: sorry I'm overworked from internation phone conferences, negotations, bank meetings and customer inquiries ...
19:50 < rxr> I even had no time thinking on that ...
19:50 < Stelz> ok
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19:53 < CIA-5> rene * r20633 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/publish.sh:
19:53 < CIA-5> * fixed the archivista target's publishing feature to translate
19:53 < CIA-5> the Live-CD's GRUB config intentionally saved on installation
19:53 < CIA-5> that might be modifed by an installer running from USB stick
19:53 < CIA-5> back to (cd) device entries
20:15 < CIA-5> rene * r20634 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/wodim.sh: * fixed the archivista/wodim.sh for the case of a write error
20:29 < CIA-5> rene * r20635 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/wodim.sh:
20:29 < CIA-5> * implemented asking the user for speed limitting in the archive calling
20:29 < CIA-5> case of archivista/wodim.sh
20:29 < emte> odd ...
20:30 < emte> why did it build sysvinit
20:31 < emte> and busybox cant dep on sysfiles since it built that after
20:31 < rxr> guess you told it to :-)
20:31 < emte> nope
20:32 < emte> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/v7WaE919.html
20:32 < emte> is my whole build list
20:38 < CIA-5> rene * r20636 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/publish.sh: * added a "wanna try again on error" loop to archivista/publish' optical disc writing
20:38 < rxr> emte: and your config/.../packages list ?
20:38 < rxr> emte: I have an idea
20:39 < rxr> emte: there is a config option selecting the init system
20:39 < rxr> emte: I bet it adds the init system selected explicitly
20:45 < emte> ah, that could be
20:45 < Stelz> rxr: but do we really need adding this "-dist" ?
20:45 < Stelz> maybe just remove it?
20:46 < rxr> nope we patch the kernel and we add -dist, this always was the case
20:46 < Stelz> hm..
20:46 < Stelz> ok
20:46 < rxr> what I care more is that pico version changing so quickly now
20:46 < emte> time to wander to a coms exam
20:47 < rxr> maybe I rather patch away this pico version in the desktop target so binary updates are easier to deliver to my customers ...
20:47 < rxr> emte: much luck
20:47 < rxr> Stelz: I take a look at removing -dist for your target, now
20:47 < Stelz> rxr: only if u have free time :-)
20:48 < Stelz> don't waste the time for my useless things ;-)
20:48 < rxr> Stelz: free time? heh ...
20:48 < rxr> Stelz: you only care about your kernel binary and modules, right?
20:48 < Stelz> uhm
20:49 < Stelz> kernel-header
20:49 < Stelz> and linux26
20:49 < Stelz> these packages
20:49 < Stelz> so redefining is in linux24/* files
20:50 < rxr> where do you see a version in the kernel-header package ?
20:51 < Stelz> rxr: it uses the version from linux24
20:51 < Stelz> when it compiles
20:51 < Stelz> rxr: linux24/linux-conf.in
20:51 < Stelz> this fil is "infected" with the version-redefinition
20:51 < Stelz> *file
20:51 < Stelz> :-)
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21:15 < rxr> Stelz: it indeed does not work right now
21:16 < rxr> I go home now I take a look tomorrow
21:16 < Stelz> ok, cu
21:16 < rxr> Stelz: please remind me - as overworked as right now I likely forget about it ...
21:16 < rxr> have a good n8 all you
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21:16 [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ mtr ] [ Stelz ]
21:16 [ CIA-5 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
21:16 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
21:16 < Stelz> ok, after Uni ;-)
21:16 < Stelz> 'night, rxr
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22:43 < Stelz> _Ragnar_: hi
22:43 < _Ragnar_> hi hi
22:43 < _Ragnar_> Linux abarrach 2.6.18.1-dist #1 SMP Wed Nov 1 18:55:04 PST 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
22:43 < _Ragnar_> :)
22:43 < Stelz> uhm _Ragnar_
22:43 < Stelz> don't u know
22:43 < Stelz> why i receive this msg
22:43 < Stelz> while compiling perl
22:44 < Stelz> WARNING: Extensions DB_File or *DBM_File, Fcntl, and IO not configured.
22:44 < Stelz> WARNING: The Perl you are building will be quite crippled.
22:44 < Stelz> and then autoconf can't be compiled :(
22:44 < _Ragnar_> o_o
22:45 < _Ragnar_> why are they not configured?
22:45 < Stelz> dunno :(
22:45 < Stelz> that's my question
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22:46 < _Ragnar_> need to check the config
22:52 < Stelz> _Ragnar_: i've checked everything
22:53 < Stelz> and i've installed all previous pkgs.. but there were no any changes :(
22:53 < _Ragnar_> o_o weird
22:53 < _Ragnar_> brb tho need lunch
--- Log closed Fri Nov 03 00:00:18 2006