T2 IRC Log: 2006-01-13
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--- Log opened Fri Jan 13 00:00:02 2006
--- Day changed Fri Jan 13 2006
00:00 < karasz> isp troubles?
00:00 < mnemoc> sure, as every day at this hour when i ride from office to home + shower :)
00:00 < karasz> ahum
00:00 < karasz> oki
00:01 < karasz> i won't `good night` you then
00:01 < mnemoc> :)
00:01 < karasz> i guess you will be awake for some time..
00:01 < demian> gn8 karasz
00:01 < mnemoc> i'll be here at least 4 more hours :)
00:01 < karasz> 02:01 AM here so
00:01 < mnemoc> gn8 karasz ,-)
00:01 < demian> [18:15]
00:01 < karasz> time to go home from office i guess..
00:02 < karasz> and end a not very glorious day
00:02 < mnemoc> demian: you need a ntp
00:02 < demian> u say i am unsynced ?
00:03 < demian> yes i am anyways.
00:04 < mnemoc> :)
00:05 < demian> i like to feel i am some minutes forward in comparison with other ppl.
00:07 < mnemoc> :)
00:15 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2
00:15 < madtux> hello.
00:15 < demian> madtux.
00:16 < madtux> d3bian.
00:16 < mnemoc> bian?
00:16 < madtux> :)
00:16 < demian> tuanis.
00:16 < madtux> mae en todas :)
00:16 < madtux> vos que pura vida?
00:17 < demian> ahi ahi, jugandomela.
00:17 < madtux> cool :)
00:30 < demian> bye
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05:47 < mnemoc> *yawn*
05:50 < LMJ> hello mnemoc
05:57 < mnemoc> i'm going to sleep now :)
05:57 < mnemoc> gn8 LMJ ,-)
05:58 < LMJ> almost 7h am here
05:58 < mnemoc> almost 3am here
05:58 < LMJ> i woke up because i can't not sleep anymore
05:58 < LMJ> have a good night
05:58 < mnemoc> i go to sleep just when i can't stay awake
05:59 < mnemoc> and if i'm not tired i just pass through
05:59 < mnemoc> but the bike is increasing my sleep hours :\
05:59 < mnemoc> gn8
06:00 < rxr> hi
06:00 < rxr> n8 mnemoc
06:00 < rxr> thanks for the long mail
06:02 < LMJ> already up rxr ?
06:15 < rxr> jups
06:15 < rxr> usually I'm up rather earlier than later
06:15 < rxr> and additionally I awaited communique from taiwan and thus wanted to ensure I'm able to reply before they leave the office again - they are +8h or so
06:23 < LMJ> you are dealing with taiwan for your company business ?
06:24 < rxr> sort of
06:46 < madtux> hey guys.
07:00 < rxr> hey miguel
07:01 < madtux> howdy ?
07:03 < rxr> yeah - how are you ?
07:05 < madtux> i'm ok... moving some stuff between the racks... and doing some firewalling stuff
07:07 < rxr> ic
07:09 < madtux> business doing ok?
07:09 < rxr> yep
07:09 < madtux> great :)
07:16 < CIA-9> rene * r14776 /trunk/package/sparc/silo/silo.desc: * added Url tag to silo
07:25 < CIA-9> rene * r14777 /trunk/package/sparc/silo/silo.desc: * updated silo (1.4.9 -> 1.4.10)
07:31 < rxr> madtux: how is sparc on your side these days ?
08:19 < madtux> well its there at home... i honestly haven't spend much time buidling or developing stuff lately.. much projects at work consuming me
08:24 < mtr_> moin
08:24 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr
08:30 < mtr> firefox and thunderbird fail in preconf hook evaluation
08:31 < mtr> - [[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] && echo ac_cv_visibility_pragma=no >> .mozconfig
08:31 < mtr> + if [ $libdir = *lib64 ] ; then
08:31 < mtr> + echo ac_cv_visibility_pragma=no >> .mozconfig
08:31 < mtr> + fi
08:32 < mtr> ^--- works
08:46 < rxr> mtr: ack, commit
08:51 < CIA-9> mtr * r14778 /trunk/package/ (mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.conf www/firefox/firefox.conf): * fixed preconf hook evaluation for firefox and thunderbird
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09:31 < rxr> hm
09:31 < rxr> why is all the recent tech stuff that el-cheapo?
09:31 < rxr> not only that this Sony Ericsson does have strange noise peaks between songs, no, the included headphones are also extreme junk and one can not even plug in own ones ...
09:33 < rxr> so - now I have Sony Erisson HPM-70, and they do not sound that much better ...
09:34 < rxr> but at least they come with a 3,5mm headphone plug in the middle so I can inject some other phone, and indeed my good older headphones have a way smoother freqyenct spread ...
09:34 < rxr> damn
09:37 < rxr> whatever the type of this older phones was ...
09:39 < rxr> Frequency Response: 6 - 23,000 Hz
09:39 < rxr> hahahaha
09:40 < rxr> on what unlinearity I do not want to know ...
09:44 < rxr> hm
09:44 < rxr> on the amplifier with the new 3.5mm output cable the cell does not as bad as I feared ...
09:44 < rxr> though neither delta1010, yamaha minidisc, or sgi Octane quality ...
09:45 < rxr> must be a rather cheap and ugly mp3 decoder chip and d/a converted in the Sony Erisson k750i ...
09:57 < CIA-9> rene * r14779 /trunk/architecture/ (powerpc/kernel.conf.m4 powerpc64/kernel.conf.m4): * synced powerpc and powerpc64 kernel config
10:46 < rxr> google: parallel make linux 2.6
10:46 < rxr> last hit on the first page, t2 ...
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10:57 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Thu Jan 12 19:40:21 2006]
10:57 [Users #t2]
10:57 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_]
10:57 [ axion ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
10:57 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr_] [ zod ]
10:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
10:57 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004
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11:23 < rxr_> http://golem.de/0601/42705.html
11:23 < rxr_> `- someone is paying 850EUR ++ .. .?
11:25 < rxr_> ah, gpl + commerical licensing ...
11:25 < rxr_> that looks more reasonable ... ,-)
11:26 < rxr_> hm, strange
11:26 < rxr_> I wonder why manually a kernel build parallizes more when the in t2 build does build mostly serially ...
11:26 < rxr_> strange
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12:13 < owl> hi
12:14 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEE9B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
12:14 < morfoh> moin
12:15 < rxr> moin morfoh
12:15 < rxr> hi owl
12:15 < morfoh> rxr: hey rxr :)
12:15 < morfoh> hi owl :)
12:16 < rxr> mnemoc: I did some mojor linux* cleanup
12:16 < rxr> mnemoc: I could do even more and remove the custmain ... I guess you would enjoy that ? ...
12:16 < morfoh> rxr: I ordered the wrtg54gl-de but I will get it on the 18th.
12:17 < morfoh> rxr: I wanted to get sure to get the v4.0
12:17 < morfoh> I will check in openwrt2 today
12:18 < morfoh> rxr: I think we should take the time for trying to get a running mips kernel
12:19 < rxr> I have a running mips kernel on my sgi
12:19 < morfoh> oh! cool
12:20 < morfoh> btw, was your proposal for a t2 article finally approved ?
12:21 < karasz> moin all
12:21 < rxr> morfoh: nope, but I think that is no problem, they are just busy ...
12:21 < morfoh> moin karasz
12:27 < karasz> hmmm....
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12:27 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ zod ]
12:27 [ axion ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_]
12:27 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ valentin]
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12:28 < karasz> i ahte that banks use portals which run only on IE
12:28 < karasz> it makes me angry
12:28 < karasz> gfrrrrrr.....
12:28 * karasz is lookin' for a computer with *dows on it :(
12:30 < owl> hehe
12:30 < owl> poor karasz
12:41 < karasz> moin owl :)
12:47 < karasz> bbl
12:47 < morfoh> cu karasz san
12:58 < owl> someone willed to spend me a tft? *smile*
12:59 < morfoh> owl: I just wanted to ask the same question :p
12:59 < owl> morfoh: damnit :(
13:00 < morfoh> owlitta .... don't be sad about just material things
13:00 < rxr> re
13:01 < morfoh> wb senor rxr
13:01 < rxr> heh
13:01 < owl> morfoh: nah. i need one because those CRTs are causing headache...
13:02 < morfoh> did anyone ever expperienced problems installing zlib ... I mean while doing a fresh install from an ISO ?
13:04 < morfoh> owl: yeah ... I know. those "ray canons" aren't that healthy
13:06 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14781 /trunk/package/mail/maildrop/ (maildrop.conf maildrop.desc):
13:06 < CIA-9> * update maildrop (2.0.0 -> 2.0.1)
13:06 < CIA-9> * copyright updates
13:06 < owl> morfoh: ack. especially with 800 x 600 resolution and 50 - 60 hz
13:06 < morfoh> owl: ouch
13:07 < owl> morfoh: yeah :)
13:08 < owl> http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/product_info.php/displays/hyundai/17_hyundai_imagequest_b70a <- what do you think about it?
13:09 < morfoh> from the case it looks like the tft's sold by HP/Compaq ... is that the cheapest one you found ?
13:10 < owl> nope. not the cheapest. just the one with the best "preis/leistungsverhaeltnis".
13:11 < morfoh> but it's looking ok ... but I'm not the big TFT expert
13:12 < LMJ> hello morfoh and owl
13:12 < LMJ> can i comment this TFT ?
13:12 < owl> ack. and if it is not ok, you can say "i don't want it" and send it back.
13:12 < owl> hi LMJ . yeah.
13:12 < morfoh> bonjour LMJ :)
13:12 < LMJ> bonjour
13:13 < LMJ> sound like a recent Samsung TFT screen
13:13 < morfoh> owl: what ? I doubt that it is legal, because you should have the right to send it back
13:13 < LMJ> Kontrast : 700:1 <--- pretty good, min is 500, max ~ 1000
13:14 < LMJ> 300 cd/m² <---- that's a little low, it should be closer to 500 cd/m2
13:14 < owl> morfoh: hm? "fernabsatzgesetz".
13:14 < LMJ> 1280 x 1024 infortunatly normal for a 17"
13:15 < LMJ> Reaktionszeit : 8 ms <--- quite good, average are around 12ms and going down to 8ms, better are under 6,5ms
13:15 < morfoh> owl: anyhow ... I'd not buy a TFT online, because you can't check for pixel errors
13:15 < LMJ> what utilisation you will do with this one ?
13:16 < owl> morfoh: yeah, but you can't buy it in my city. just 2 HW-shops in 30 km arround ND.
13:16 < owl> LMJ: well. developing, as 2nd screen near my laptop-tft
13:16 < rxr> morfoh: I only would buy them online
13:16 < LMJ> looks ok for your needs owl
13:17 < rxr> since most stores does not let you test them anyway and when you buy online you can send back withint 14 days without giving a reason
13:17 < owl> LMJ: yeah ;)
13:17 < rxr> so oder, test
13:17 < owl> hi rxr
13:17 < owl> my words ;)
13:17 < rxr> and if there is something not good, e.g. pixel error or other brokenness just return just with "don't like it"
13:17 < morfoh> rxr: ok ....
13:18 < morfoh> rxr: thanks for the hint ;)
13:18 < morfoh> owl: http://www.hardwareschotte.de/hardware/preise/proid_8010064/preis_HYUNDAI+ImageQuest+B70A
13:18 < LMJ> have you check samsung ?
13:19 < owl> LMJ: nah. and i will never, never, never buy HW made by samsung...
13:19 < LMJ> TFT are good
13:19 < LMJ> ;)
13:20 < owl> morfoh: thx ;)
13:20 < morfoh> owl: yw ;)
13:20 < morfoh> rxr: you had ViewSonic ... right ?
13:20 < owl> LMJ: well... had one notebook... after 3 repairs of dead HDDs i gave it back. and i had a HDD. i also brought it back... everything went into dead HW after some weeks (expect the one HDD.)
13:21 < morfoh> owl: ack ... Samsung HDD's are known to be crap
13:21 < LMJ> do not make a generality owl, i worked on a Computer shop during one year ;)
13:21 < LMJ> Things i remenber : Dell PC for publis are CRAP
13:21 < CIA-9> rene * r14782 /trunk/package/base/linux24/ (linux-conf.in linux24.conf):
13:21 < CIA-9> * refactored crufty generic linux package code and made sure it builds
13:21 < CIA-9> in parallel
13:21 < owl> morfoh: hehe. well, why are they inserted into laptops then? and why earn those laptops "test: very good"? :)
13:22 < rxr> morfoh: yes view sonic
13:22 < morfoh> owl: guess because they are cheap :p
13:22 < owl> LMJ: well. at least my expierences with the "hotline" e.g. are more then bad.
13:22 < owl> morfoh: sigh. :/
13:23 < owl> money is not all, is it? :(
13:24 < morfoh> owl: remember in what kind of society you're living ... then you'll be able to answer it yourself ;)
13:24 < owl> morfoh: ok, ok, i forgot :)
13:24 < morfoh> owl: don't forget it the next time pls :p
13:25 < owl> morfoh: i will try.
13:25 < morfoh> owl: good
13:25 < owl> :)
13:26 < owl> .oO( sigh. how could i forget... had an job interview some days ago. with a person who really was *** "geldgeil")
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13:40 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Thu Jan 12 19:40:21 2006]
13:40 [Users #t2]
13:40 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
13:40 [ axion ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ rxr_] [ zod ]
13:40 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ sepp] [ _Ragnar_]
13:40 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
13:40 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004
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13:49 < mnemoc> moin!
13:49 < rxr_> moin!
13:50 < morfoh> hola! senor mnemoc :)
13:50 < mnemoc> hi rxr_ :)
13:50 < mnemoc> feel free to decustmainize linux* :) i have enough fun with native-dietlibc and ooo/java :p
13:51 < morfoh> mnemoc: did you ever had problems installing zlib package from a fresh 2.1.1 ISO ?
13:51 < mnemoc> not that i remember
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13:54 < morfoh> mnemoc: hmmm ... strange. Taniform had the problem while trying to install the voipgw
13:54 < mnemoc> uhm
13:54 < mnemoc> what kind of problem?
13:54 < morfoh> it just hung while trying to install zlib
13:55 < morfoh> everything else before was ok he said
13:59 < mnemoc> did he write the error displayed on screen?
14:00 < morfoh> mnemoc I'll get the error message in the evening ... he is away atm
14:03 < mnemoc> nice :)
14:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: lets see ... meanwhile I'll check that locally
14:08 < mnemoc> http://gobby.0x539.de/index.html <--- package anyone?
14:09 < morfoh> It uses GTK+ 2.6 as its windowing toolkit and thus integrates nicely into the GNOME desktop environment. <-- uhhhh! /me shaking :p
14:11 < morfoh> .oO( can someone kick our prelude maintainer ... again missed a version update )o
14:12 < Baldzius> :)
14:12 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :)
14:12 < Baldzius> hi morfoh, mnemoc :)
14:12 < morfoh> Baldzius: guess I've to do it on my own :p
14:12 < Baldzius> to do what? :)
14:13 < morfoh> Baldzius: updating prelude stuff :p
14:13 < Baldzius> morfoh: don't forget strongswan :)
14:14 < morfoh> Baldzius: I just tell you ... that you'll not waste your time ... "Master of updating" :)
14:14 < morfoh> Baldzius: thanks ... so kick the strongswan maintainer too ;)
14:14 < mnemoc> hi Baldzius
14:14 < mnemoc> Baldzius: http://gobby.0x539.de/index.html :D
14:15 < Baldzius> mnemoc: 've already added to my _TODO_
14:15 < morfoh> .oO( mnemoc seems to be in motivating mode)o
14:15 < mnemoc> Baldzius: :D
14:15 < mnemoc> morfoh: bah
14:15 < Baldzius> maybe someone wants to play with gnash, it p* me totally
14:15 < Baldzius> it compiles just .conf is ugly and hardcoded
14:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: what does your "bah" means ?
14:17 < mnemoc> morfoh: if i would be able to motivate someone we would have a new website long time ago
14:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: I know you tried everything to motivate him ... so don't be that hard to yourself :|
14:21 * rxr burning the next minimal-ppc64 iso ...
14:21 < CIA-9> chris * r14783 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * udpated libprelude (0.9.1 -> 0.9.3)
14:21 * rxr wonders when this damned open firmware will recognize the CD as bootable ...
14:22 < mnemoc> i messure people by what they do, not what they want to do. and i have been unable to finish anything
14:22 < CIA-9> chris * r14784 /trunk/package/security/prewikka/prewikka.desc: * updated prewikka (0.9.2 -> 0.9.3)
14:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: of course every person can "implement" their own measuring methods ... but I think yours is quite accurate :/
14:28 < rxr> diff -r -U 1 cdrtools-2.01 cdrtools-2.01-nonverb/ > package/filesystem/cdrtools/no-junk.patch
14:28 < mnemoc> :D
14:28 < rxr> `- this damn fluff finally hit my nerves too badly ...
14:28 < rxr> commit after a testbuild ...
14:28 < mnemoc> hey, can you improve -scanbus ?
14:29 < rxr> hm whe?
14:29 < rxr> I exclusively use dev=/dev/...
14:29 < mnemoc> me too
14:30 < rxr> why -scanbus then ?
14:30 < mnemoc> some apps use it
14:30 < rxr> hm
14:30 < mnemoc> and as it returns cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
14:30 < rxr> I would rather patch it away fro the apps ...
14:30 < mnemoc> cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root.
14:30 < mnemoc> cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
14:30 < mnemoc> the app has to be set everytime to use the hardcoded path
14:31 < rxr> I seldom have issues with that and my users that are on KDE and K3B ...
14:31 < mnemoc> :)
14:31 * mnemoc rsyncing at 4.73kB/s to gsmp :'(
14:35 < CIA-9> chris * r14785 /trunk/package/security/strongswan/strongswan.desc: * updated strongswan (2.5.7 -> 2.6.0)
14:38 < rxr> test
14:39 < owl> rxr: ?
14:39 < rxr> had some lag
14:39 < owl> ah
14:42 < karasz> re
14:42 < morfoh> wb karasz
14:42 < karasz> thanks morfoh san
14:57 < demian> hi
14:57 < mnemoc> wb karasz, demian
14:57 < mnemoc> owlita!
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15:02 < mnemoc> wb sepp_
15:05 < LMJ> morning mnemoc
15:05 < mnemoc> hi LMJ
15:05 < karasz> moin sepp SerWou & co
15:06 < LMJ> moin karasz, sepp
15:06 < mnemoc> rxr: no caterpilar was decent enough as pre-mascot-logo?
15:07 < karasz> btw catepillar
15:07 < mnemoc> :p
15:08 < mnemoc> sorry
15:08 < LMJ> mnemoc loves big engines who smokes a lot
15:08 < LMJ> ;)
15:08 < mnemoc> :)
15:08 < rxr> no idea
15:09 < rxr> was the some final form?
15:09 < rxr> e.g. from the settlers of catan artist ?
15:09 < rxr> I do not like the caterpillar as it too much
15:09 < rxr> I thought more about something like a pretty butterfly when this idea first came up
15:09 < rxr> e.g. the logo should be something rather pretty
15:09 < mnemoc> jsaw: promised some drawings, but nothing yet afaik
15:10 < rxr> I have my doubts if too many people will find a bare caterpillar too pretty as it ...
15:10 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. all is open
15:10 < rxr> I just posted my brothers sketching as other ideas I would not chose any of the so far made proposals as it ...
15:10 < rxr> all is open ...
15:12 < CIA-9> rene * r14786 /trunk/package/filesystem/cdrtools/no-junk.patch:
15:12 < CIA-9> * patched away all the junk in cdrtools that got on my nerves for
15:12 < CIA-9> far too long time already
15:12 < rxr> so
15:12 < rxr> more than in my initial patch
15:12 < rxr> far too much junk in that code ...
15:12 < rxr> so /me rebooting to see what the firmware does with the new minimal64 iso....
15:13 < mnemoc> cdrtools' author trolls too much against linux
15:13 < karasz> so
15:14 < karasz> btw catepillar
15:14 < karasz> http://www.immersivetechnologies.com/Images/machine/cat797.jpg
15:14 < karasz> :D
15:14 < karasz> or better http://berny79.altervista.org/Documenti/Immagini/Cat797.jpg
15:15 < mnemoc> karasz: my country lives from minery
15:15 < mnemoc> karasz: there are trucks here 3 times those you showed
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15:16 < karasz> really?
15:16 < karasz> i thought that catepillar is the greatest...
15:16 < mnemoc> a person is less than half of the radious of the wheels
15:17 < karasz> second image
15:17 < mnemoc> those persons are of the size of the radius
15:17 < karasz> ahm
15:17 < karasz> i thought of diametre
15:17 < karasz> mnemoc: model?
15:17 < mnemoc> no idea, let me see if a find something
15:18 < mnemoc> that machinery is used at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuquicamata btw
15:18 < rxr> re
15:18 < rxr> hm
15:18 < rxr> of course it did not boot :-(
15:18 < mnemoc> :(
15:18 < rxr> too bad t2 is the only system really documenting hat to do to create boot cds ...
15:18 < rxr> so no easy cut'n paste from others ...
15:19 < karasz> T 282B :D
15:19 < rxr> e.g. the gentoo code sucks and the catalyst fluff does not do really something differently
15:20 < karasz> mnemoc: http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/worlds-largest-truck-016525.php still diametre but it was in 2004
15:20 < LMJ> ROTFL
15:21 < mnemoc> karasz: imagine the machines to load those trucks :)
15:21 < mnemoc> http://www.codelco.com/imagenes/corporacion/divisiones/norte/ficha.jpg <--- no good picture yet :(
15:22 < morfoh> oh my ... oh my ... but we should consider that it's quite hard to move that kind of truck :p
15:23 < karasz> yup
15:23 < karasz> thoose are special escavators which handle at least 50 m3 dirt at once
15:23 < mnemoc> i'm sure i have seen pictures of trucks bigger than that... but where :\
15:28 < mnemoc> now i think it was just 'perspective'
15:29 < karasz> are those Komatsu?
15:30 < mnemoc> http://www.tandemove-seskoky.cz/data/USR_039_DEFAULT/Chuquicamata__medeny_dul.jpg <--- parking area :)
15:31 < mnemoc> no idea
15:31 < karasz> http://mischa2000.de/
15:31 < karasz> teknik
15:31 < karasz> truks
15:33 < mnemoc> LMJ: emelfm2 package patch doesn't have author, and [U] is broken
15:36 < karasz> guys i have a rar and file gives me: RAR archive data, v1d, os: Win32
15:36 < karasz> can i open it...?
15:36 < owl> unrar?
15:37 < karasz> i thought of ark ... but it doesn't cope with it
15:38 < mnemoc> unrar is packaged
15:39 < mnemoc> http://tblogs.bootsnall.com/fa//archives/images/IMG_0491.JPG <--- all are wheel = '2xperson' :(
15:44 < rxr> re
15:45 < karasz> mnemoc: unrar is pakaged... but it gets confused by win path separator...
15:46 < mnemoc> o_O
15:46 < karasz> the file is a win archiwe containing `\`
15:46 < karasz> not /`
15:46 < mnemoc> and it fails due to that??
15:47 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/ please
15:49 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14787 /trunk/package/ (mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.conf www/firefox/firefox.conf): * fix typo introduced in r14778 ([[ ... ]] not [ ... ])
15:50 < rxr> btw. jsaw I would use some other detection when you build ppc64 - x86-64 without multilib this thing fails ...
15:51 < rxr> I would check for 64 bit pointers ...
15:51 < jsaw> ?
15:51 < rxr> if [[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] ; then
15:51 < rxr> nothing todo with that issue ...
15:51 < rxr> with a multilib less and thus /lib not lib64 64bit build this will not be run ...
15:52 < jsaw> we have actually way more problems with the whole lib64 etal thing...
15:52 < jsaw> a complete check is needed...
15:52 < rxr> I propose [ $arch_sizeof_char_p = 8 ] ...
15:52 < jsaw> there are quite some places, where .../lib is hardcoded into configure scripts
15:52 < rxr> jsaw: yes but there is not much left
15:53 < jsaw> so, libdir as well as that have to be re-checked
15:53 < rxr> I work on the resulting systems since months without issues ...
15:53 < jsaw> rxr: did you recently compile python?
15:53 < rxr> hm - most probably within my usual builds
15:53 < jsaw> it compiles, yes
15:54 < mnemoc> rxr: if targetarchis64; then :)
15:54 < jsaw> but due to hardcoded values in Setup.in, a lot of checks failed
15:54 < jsaw> so, I assume, way more configure scripts are wrong
15:54 < jsaw> or pam_ldap
15:55 < rxr> jsaw: maybe - my plan is to fix packages that throw files into the wrong libdir and the remaining stuff where feature are not used due to buggy configure review on-demand
15:55 < jsaw> if I didn't try compile it only with openldap, we wouldn't have noticed that it won't find the openldap libs...
15:56 < mnemoc> rxr: do we wnat lib-$arch on dietlibc? doing ILIBDIR= instead of LIBDIR= would solve that
15:57 < rxr> we could leave dietlibc as it is now until we do the next big rearrangement in favour to not introduce new regressions again ...
15:57 < Baldzius> jsaw: i told about that with gnash, configure cript is really acting strange
15:57 < Baldzius> and i saw really strange paths
15:58 < jsaw> rxr: I would like to have to more functions, one that returns the libdir-suffix, and one the target architecture bits
15:58 < jsaw> two more *
15:58 < rxr> we already have this variables
15:58 < jsaw> which?
15:58 < rxr> target architecture bits should be equivalent to what I pasted
15:58 < rxr> [ $arch_sizeof_char_p = 8 ]
15:59 < rxr> those in archtest.{out,sh}
15:59 < jsaw> acceptible, but in terms of readability, I'd prefer bits...
15:59 < jsaw> rxr: and library suffix?
15:59 < rxr> that is what configure uses as well, thus the name
16:00 < rxr> what was your problem with libdir ?
16:00 < jsaw> as you mentioned, there might be more than just "lib64", e.g libnof or so
16:00 < rxr> sure, but libdir is set accordingly
16:01 < jsaw> [[ $libdir != *lib ]] is not very handy
16:01 < jsaw> [ "$libdirsuffix" ] would be much more nice
16:01 < jsaw> and more general
16:02 < rxr> libdirsuffix={libdir##*/}
16:02 < rxr> insert missing $
16:02 < jsaw> yeah, but central
16:02 < rxr> feel free to define it in the setconfopt or where the libdir is set along libdir
16:02 < jsaw> oh, no I meant
16:02 < jsaw> libdirsuffix=${libdir##*/lib}
16:03 < jsaw> rxr: may I, ok, I'll do
16:03 < rxr> hm
16:03 < rxr> why just the end, where do you need that ?
16:03 < rxr> (asside the ugly kde configure scripts)
16:03 < jsaw> python, pam_ldap, ...
16:03 < rxr> ugly and kde in one line, no no - i meant misguided or so ... ,-)
16:03 < jsaw> I tell you, there are more hidden places than we know of...
16:03 < jsaw> configure scripts may fail silently
16:04 < rxr> well, sure, but isn't the libdir needed more often anyway
16:04 < jsaw> by just not adding some functionality somebody might expect
16:04 < rxr> you always can get just the suffix by peeling of the libdir name as it ...
16:04 < jsaw> I know, but ${libdir##*/lib} is not very obviously readable
16:05 < mnemoc> ack
16:05 < rxr> but two more variables just to plesae shell novices ?
16:05 < rxr> well, go for them
16:05 < jsaw> only one, I already declined in the case of arch_sizeof_char_p
16:05 < jsaw> ;)
16:05 < rxr> I just wonder if we really should add two convience variables too easily ..
16:06 < rxr> jsaw: well, ok, but still just the suffix?
16:06 < rxr> often the ${libdir##*/} is needed
16:06 < jsaw> yep, look for example into python.conf
16:06 < rxr> when you want to avoid peeling on variables you would need two libdir related helper vars ...
16:06 < jsaw> (and believe me, there are more places like that)
16:07 * mnemoc prefer helper functions
16:07 < mnemoc> if world_sucks; then
16:07 < jsaw> I'll add a check for hardcoded */lib directories now, locally
16:08 < jsaw> and hope, not too many packages do this...
16:08 < jsaw> but I fear, most packages that use software installed in /opt are affected...
16:10 < jsaw> gotta go now, cu later
16:11 < karasz> cu jsaw
16:11 < morfoh> cu jsaw
16:12 < karasz> btw
16:12 < karasz> story of the day
16:12 < karasz> girl goes on vacation in foreign land
16:12 < karasz> beautifull place sea side and so
16:12 < karasz> girl enjoys her vacation very much
16:13 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14788 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-speech/ (gnome-speech.conf gnome-speech.desc):
16:13 < CIA-9> * set java-home to "none" if java-gnome is not available
16:13 < CIA-9> * copyright updates
16:13 < karasz> in fdact so much that she runs out of money
16:13 < karasz> now she must return home, take a flight
16:13 < mnemoc> karasz: girl is taking vacations from you?
16:14 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14789 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * update vserver kernel patch (2.6.15-rc7-vs2.0.1 -> 2.6.15-vs2.0.1.2)
16:14 < karasz> in the airport she realises that she hasn't got the required amount of money to buy a tocket
16:14 < mnemoc> *G*
16:14 < karasz> s/tocket/ticket
16:14 < karasz> so she begins performing a live strip show to colect the required amount :D
16:15 < karasz> male by passers were out of luck because yhe police intervened before it got really interesting ....
16:15 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14790 /trunk/package/graphic/libexif-gtk/libexif-gtk.desc: * libexif-gtk must be build at a later point
16:15 < jsaw> *gone really now* - cu
16:15 < rxr> hm
16:15 < rxr> cu jsaw
16:15 < karasz> gorl now has the amount of money required, but cannot go home because she is in jail
16:16 < karasz> the story is real and happened today in .mx
16:16 < rxr> burning on the dual-core is no fun yet - each time a different checksum ...
16:18 < karasz> mnemoc: nah
16:18 < rxr> karasz: where do you get these stories from? inbox spam ?
16:19 < morfoh> :D
16:19 < demian> how can i merge the contents of a t2/download dir to another t2-versionXX/download dir without conflicts doing this right ?
16:20 < demian> did a cp -rfv
16:20 < karasz> rxr no
16:20 < karasz> radio
16:21 < karasz> i thought it was funny
16:21 < rxr> karasz: heh, yeah ,-)
16:21 < rxr> karasz: just continue to post the story of the day to us /me is getting used to it
16:21 < mnemoc> demian: -alt-dir makes hardlinks
16:21 < karasz> btw girl is from Baltic, blonde green eyes and suposedly very beautifull ;)
16:22 < mnemoc> and download dir can be a symlink
16:22 < demian> ok
16:22 * karasz seems to be transforming in entertainer of #T2 :D
16:22 < demian> doing a listing:
16:22 < demian> 802
16:22 < demian> 1327
16:22 < mnemoc> i have t2-download/$version/ and t2-$version/download pointing to ../t2-download/$version
16:23 < mnemoc> and Download always called with -alt-dir ../t2-download
16:23 < demian> 802 are unknown, 1327 are missing.. did that when merged download dirs.
16:24 < mnemoc> demian: move it to t2-download/mixup, and then Download -required on others pointing to that alt-dir
16:24 < mnemoc> demian: then you rm -rf mixup :)
16:24 < mnemoc> brb
16:30 < karasz> cu mnemoc
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16:40 < demian> did another way, but thank mnemoc.
16:40 < demian> -alt-dir was useful/
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16:47 < demian> for file in `cut -d: -f2 unknown | sed -s "s/^ //g" | sed -s "s/^download/\.\.\/download\/trunk/g"` ; do rm -fv $file ; done
16:47 < demian> :) removed conflicting files for that version.
16:49 < demian> now i will cksum them..
16:52 < rxr> I find it quite annoying that all the intesting low level details are so hidden in the others dists ...
16:53 < rxr> I make a lot of crosses in the calender when I have a t2 CD booting on the dual core
17:00 < rxr> hah!
17:00 < rxr> found something ...
17:03 < rxr> karasz: I also tracked some low-level info regarding booting open power
17:03 < rxr> when will you get that box ?
17:03 < rxr> also I found what might help booting my old, aging rs6k automatically ...
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17:05 < karasz> rxr i do not have a date on it
17:06 < karasz> i have some problems with that customer...
17:06 < karasz> when i will know for sure i will anounce you, rest assured
17:07 < mipe> so another t2-powered box installed here
17:12 < rxr> mipe: ,-)
17:13 < mipe> i thought i bought 32bit sempron i got the 64bit version of it...
17:13 < rxr> on http://www.heise.de is a the name of a company that has many t2 systems deployed world wide in production use ...
17:13 < rxr> mipe: cool ,-)
17:16 < rxr> so - me trying the latest ppc64 burn ...
17:17 < mipe> silly question: would the be any gain to build -march=athlon64 -m32 desktop... ie. getting sse2 and 3dnowext support?
17:18 < rxr> yay - got it
17:18 < rxr> finally I can sleep again with t2 ppc64 bootable ...
17:19 * rxr turns his eyes and sees the Octane and sparc boxes and knows about the work still to be done
17:24 < CIA-9> rene * r14791 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/boot/ofboot.b:
17:24 < CIA-9> * marked our ppc, open firmware boot script MacRISC4 compatible so
17:24 < CIA-9> recent 64bit macs consider it
17:26 < CIA-9> amery * r14792 /trunk/package/filesystem/mdf2iso/ (. mdf2iso.cache mdf2iso.desc):
17:26 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel:
17:26 < CIA-9> * added mdf2iso (0.3) - a MDF to ISO converter
17:28 < CIA-9> rene * r14793 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/boot/boot.in:
17:28 < CIA-9> * replaced the long, underscored HFS volume ID with just T2 and added
17:28 < CIA-9> -no-desktop (from Gentoo catalyst) - might save some bytes - to the
17:28 < CIA-9> powerpc iso options
17:29 < rxr> so, the ppc64 use case now loads yaboot and in theory also the kernel
17:30 < rxr> though on my dual-core 2.6.15 does not come up due to those bits I have in the running kernel are not yet upstream yet ...
17:35 < mnemoc> wait for 2.7 :)
17:35 < rxr> no 16-rc1
17:35 < mnemoc> :)
17:36 < rxr> and/or pull the patches out of powerpc.git ...
17:37 < mnemoc> lars added cogito a few days ago
17:39 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp
17:39 < sepp> moin
17:41 < demian> wv sepp
17:41 < demian> umm.. welcome vack ? sorry.
17:41 < sepp> vw ? :)
17:41 < sepp> hi demian
17:44 < mnemoc> demian: _back_
17:46 < demian> i know.. it was just that 0x62 is too near from 0x73 in my keyboard, my finger pressed the bad key
17:46 < demian> s/73/76
17:47 * demian using querty kb layout
17:47 < sepp> and no chars, only hex values :P ?
17:47 < demian> alternatively zxcvb
17:48 < sepp> i mean printed on the keys ...
17:48 < demian> that would be cool.. but nop. i was just geeking a bit.
17:48 < demian> ;-)
17:49 * demian looking at thinkgeek for a hex labeled kb
17:49 < sepp> hehe :)
17:50 < demian> found nothing.
17:51 < demian> umm. ppl are strange. who havent thought in a hex labeled keyboard? :p
17:51 < mnemoc> do you look at the kb when you type?
17:52 < mnemoc> then, do you care what is draw there?
17:52 < demian> sometimes. not a perfect type writer.
17:53 * demian is a 3-finger type writer
17:53 < mnemoc> i would make the same typos on a labeled or on a blank keyboard :p
17:53 < mnemoc> oh
17:53 < demian> anyways i do write fast.. wanna play typespeed ?
17:54 < demian> :)
17:56 < sepp> rules, someone says a number of hex values and the 1st one who managed to type it is the winner?
17:58 < demian> umm. ok.. gimme a second to open a console next to this one, and do man ascii..
17:58 < demian> or maybe run `bc` in hex mode.
17:59 < demian> :p
18:05 < karasz> bbl
18:07 * demian is going school
18:07 < demian> bye
18:08 < sepp> cu demian, karasz
18:19 < demian> for file in `grep -v -E "missing|No" cksums | cut -d: -f2 | sed -s "s/^ download/..\/download\/trunk/g"` ; do rm -fv $file ; done
18:19 < demian> finished cleaning.
18:20 < mnemoc> demian: ./scripts/Cleanup -download
18:20 < demian> umm.. what does it does ?
18:20 < mnemoc> remove all files at download/ which are unknown
18:21 < demian> :s thanks.. well, bye
18:23 < demian> what in my case i use alt dit for download content ?
18:24 < mnemoc> you have another download/ and you want to take files from there and not duplicate space (hardlink)
18:24 < mnemoc> i have:
18:25 < mnemoc> t2-$foo/download -> ../t2-download/$foo (symlink)
18:25 < mnemoc> using -alt-dir ../t2-download
18:25 < demian> ok, so wont use alt-dir.
18:25 < demian> bye
18:26 < mnemoc> :)
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18:46 < misl> hi folks :)
18:46 < mnemoc> hi misl
19:10 < sepp> hi misl :)
19:20 < CIA-9> amery * r14796 /trunk/package/filesystem/b5i2iso/ (. b5i2iso.cache b5i2iso.conf b5i2iso.desc):
19:20 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel:
19:20 < CIA-9> * added b5i2iso (0.2) - a Blindwrite to ISO converter
19:20 < CIA-9> amery * r14795 /trunk/package/filesystem/ccd2iso/ (. ccd2iso.cache ccd2iso.desc configure.patch):
19:20 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel:
19:20 < CIA-9> * added ccd2iso (0.2) - a CloneCD to ISO converter
19:20 < CIA-9> amery * r14794 /trunk/package/filesystem/nrg2iso/ (. .nrg2iso.desc.swp nrg2iso.cache nrg2iso.conf nrg2iso.desc):
19:20 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel:
19:20 < CIA-9> * added nrg2iso (0.4) - a NRG to ISO converter
19:20 < mnemoc> shit*
19:20 < mnemoc> err
19:20 < sepp> vim ?
19:20 < mnemoc> sh*t
19:20 < mnemoc> yes
19:21 < Baldzius> anyone using linux26mm ?
19:21 < mnemoc> rene i guess
19:22 < CIA-9> amery * r14797 /trunk/package/filesystem/nrg2iso/.nrg2iso.desc.swp: * removed .swp file from nrgr2iso package, sorry
19:29 < CIA-9> amery * r14798 /trunk/package/filesystem/bin2iso/ (. bin2iso.cache bin2iso.conf bin2iso.desc):
19:29 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel:
19:29 < CIA-9> * added bin2iso (0.2) - a Bin to ISO converter
19:41 < CIA-9> amery * r14799 /trunk/package/emulators/vmware/ (8 files):
19:41 < CIA-9> Tobias C. Schmidt:
19:41 < CIA-9> * added vmware (5.5.1-19175) - A virtual x86 PC
19:48 < _Ragnar_> o_o
19:50 < CIA-9> amery * r14800 /trunk/package/emulators/vmware/vmware.desc: * changed vmware package to be optional, due to licensing
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19:56 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14801 /trunk/package/emulators/vmware/vmware.desc: * change vmware to download locally ...
19:57 < mnemoc> not redistributable source file?
19:57 < jsaw> Not sure
19:57 < mnemoc> :)
19:57 < jsaw> just being cautious
19:57 < jsaw> ...
19:57 < mnemoc> better
20:00 < jsaw> gah
20:00 < jsaw> tar xvf VMware-* | grep EULA
20:01 < karasz> re
20:01 < jsaw> I'm blind, I've seen this 4-letter word...
20:02 < mnemoc> :\
20:04 < CIA-9> aldas * r14802 /trunk/package/security/freeradius/ (config.in freeradius.conf freeradius.desc): * updated freeradius (1.1.0-pre0 -> 1.1.0)
20:05 < CIA-9> aldas * r14803 /trunk/package/network/openldap/openldap.desc: * updated openldap (2.3.15 -> 2.3.17)
20:07 < Baldzius> jsaw: should i commit gnash?
20:09 < jsaw> yes
20:09 < mnemoc> works?
20:10 < Baldzius> compiles , just .conf is ugly and hardcoded
20:10 < Baldzius> someone has to polish it because i am p*
20:10 < Baldzius> but not woking for me
20:10 < mnemoc> ehm
20:15 < CIA-9> aldas * r14804 /trunk/package/multimedia/gnash/ (. gnash.conf gnash.desc): * added gnash (20051226) - Gnash - free flash movie player
20:15 < Baldzius> jsaw: it's yours :)
20:15 < mnemoc> Baldzius: don't use package name on [I]
20:15 < Baldzius> damn how i hate it :)
20:15 < Baldzius> oops
20:19 < LMJ> hellooo
20:19 < Baldzius> hi LMJ
20:19 < mnemoc> hi LMJ
20:19 < LMJ> what's up guys ?
20:20 < mnemoc> LMJ: i was trying to review the packages you mailed, your fm [U] doesn't exist
20:20 < LMJ> what i put ?
20:22 < mnemoc> 1) send plain text .diff attachments per package
20:22 < mnemoc> 2) make patches at ., not package/
20:23 < mnemoc> no idea what's current home of your fm :)
20:23 < LMJ> wowow slow down
20:25 * mnemoc frozen
20:25 < CIA-9> aldas * r14805 /trunk/package/audio/xmms2/ (xmms2.conf xmms2.desc): * updated xmms2 (0.2DrAlban -> 0.2DrBombay)
20:25 < Baldzius> :)
20:25 < LMJ> maybe should i stop to submit packages ;)
20:26 < mnemoc> LMJ: no, just send them one by one
20:26 < mnemoc> so i can evaluate one by one :)
20:26 < LMJ> i haven't follow any recommendations
20:27 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14806 /trunk/package/multimedia/gnash/ (gnash.conf gnash.desc):
20:27 < CIA-9> * a bit of cleanup (removing hardcoded firefox stuff)
20:27 < CIA-9> untested
20:27 < mnemoc> LMJ: but you will :)
20:28 * LMJ is scared and think mnemoc likes big trunks...
20:29 < mnemoc> uh
20:30 < LMJ> and remenber*
20:32 < mnemoc> morfoh: ping
20:32 < rxr> re
20:32 < mnemoc> wb rxr
20:32 < Baldzius> hi rxr
20:33 < jsaw> bye bye
20:34 < Baldzius> bye jsaw, i am testing 14806 :)
20:34 < mnemoc> bye jsaw
20:35 < rxr> linux26mm what ?
20:35 < Baldzius> is it stable to use?
20:37 < rxr> depends
20:38 < rxr> works more than less depending on the hw
20:38 < rxr> I would not base a production system onit ..
20:42 < Baldzius> is it normal that $firefox_prefix variable starts without "/" like -> opt/firefox
20:43 < rxr> yes
20:43 < rxr> that is all fine
20:43 < rxr> do you see a problem somewhere ?
20:43 < Baldzius> no, i'll fix it
20:43 < Baldzius> jsaw just missed that in gnash.conf
20:44 < Baldzius> he revised my hardcoded .conf
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20:54 < acehunky> mnemoc: i am here
20:55 < acehunky> rxr: hi
20:56 < rxr> hi acehunky
20:56 < karasz> hello acehunky
20:56 < acehunky> hello people
20:56 < acehunky> can we have a short conference ?
20:57 < rxr> yeah
20:57 < acehunky> karasz: nice to meet you buddy
20:57 < acehunky> can you create it and invite me there ?
20:57 < karasz> you too acehunky although i do not remember you... (should I?)
20:58 < mnemoc> karasz: i doubt :)
20:58 < acehunky> umm well i was the one who asked question bout loading T2 on Vmware ;)
20:58 < karasz> ok
20:58 < karasz> i didn't lost my memories at least it seems so
20:58 < karasz> another nick i guess
20:58 < acehunky> yeah chat_jokey
20:58 < karasz> ohum
20:59 < acehunky> IRC ate up my one nic ..
20:59 < acehunky> after time out ..and wasnt releasing so creatd another one
21:03 < morfoh> re
21:03 < morfoh> mnemoc: pong :)
21:04 < mnemoc> hi morfoh
21:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: we should rather use sth. like a 3 way handshake :p
21:04 < mnemoc> o.o
21:04 < morfoh> ^_^
21:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: companero ... what's up ?
21:06 < sepp> ?U?
21:06 < morfoh> hans-peter ?
21:06 < morfoh> :p
21:07 < sepp> ;)
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21:20 < karasz> hi morfoh
21:20 < morfoh> hey karasz ... "men of the day" :p
21:21 < karasz> i am only one
21:21 < karasz> and i am not the man of the day
21:21 < karasz> but the story teller man of the day ;)
21:23 < morfoh> :)
21:46 < karasz> finaly
21:47 < karasz> manualy but i can mount my usb pen
21:47 < karasz> but i still miss the automount feature... :(
21:58 < mnemoc> how umount works on 'automounting' philosophy?
21:59 < rxr> umount as soon as unused for some time I guess
21:59 < rxr> but I never used it
21:59 * rxr on udev / hal ...
22:02 * morfoh wishes rxr all the best on udev / hal :)
22:05 < rxr> thanks
22:10 < karasz> hmm...
22:10 < karasz> `3 way handshake`
22:10 * karasz trying to imagine ...oO
22:11 * karasz thinks that can only be that morfoh san imagines that he is an octopus .oOo.....
22:13 -!- karasz is now known as Dorada
22:14 < Dorada> morfoh: san you should watchout .... Dorada may come for you...
22:15 < rxr> ok - n8 all
22:15 < Dorada> gn8 rxr
22:15 -!- Dorada is now known as karasz
22:16 < rxr> have a nice night
22:16 < LMJ> hello
22:16 < karasz> bonsoiree SerWou ;)
22:17 < karasz> whou that is surelyy wrong...
22:17 < LMJ> any idea why php 5.0.5 won't compile on a light webserver t2 2.1 http://pastebin.com/504638
22:17 < LMJ> "bonne soirée" = have a good evening in the next stuff you will do "bonsoir" : good evening ;)
22:18 < karasz> but there is also soiree?
22:18 < karasz> with an accesnt on one e
22:18 < karasz> ?
22:18 < LMJ> "soirée" is the only valid word
22:18 < karasz> meaning some kind of party or some...
22:18 < karasz> ok
22:19 < karasz> i won't argue with a native speacker...
22:19 < karasz> i really hate my french teacher...
22:19 < LMJ> hehe
22:20 < karasz> no, really because of she i didn't learned more french...
22:20 < LMJ> she teach what ?
22:20 < LMJ> sex ? ;)
22:20 < LMJ> french kiss ?
22:20 < karasz> o_O
22:20 < karasz> french teacher as in french language teacher
22:21 < karasz> i was around 15 she was around 45 so no french kissing if you catch my drift
22:21 < LMJ> hehehe
22:21 < LMJ> rotfl
22:21 < LMJ> well, gtg now
22:22 < LMJ> i will see tmorrow for my PHP problem
22:22 < karasz> cu SerWou...
22:22 < mnemoc> LMJ: /usr/src/t2-src/src.php.1137189972.24184.fb40f41e/php-5.0.5/sapi/cli/php: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied
22:22 < mnemoc> ^--- wth? cross compiling?
22:22 < LMJ> I KNOW
22:22 < LMJ> grsec !
22:23 < mnemoc> :\
22:23 < LMJ> what i should unprotect between
22:23 < mnemoc> no idea
22:23 < LMJ> /usr/src/t2-src/src.php.1137189972.24184.fb40f41e/php-5.0.5/sapi/cli/php <--- that thing ?
22:23 < mnemoc> just don't build on production servers
22:23 < morfoh> karasz: regarding the 3 way handshake I was more thinking in communication protocols :p
22:23 < mnemoc> me too
22:24 * karasz hides deeeeeeepp....
22:28 * karasz carefully peeks out from his hidding place
22:29 < mnemoc> noone needs to hide at #t2
22:29 * morfoh catches karasz on his hair ... hehe.. gor him :)
22:29 < mnemoc> :
22:29 < mnemoc> :p
22:29 < LMJ> good night the channn
22:30 < LMJ> see you tomorrow
22:30 < mnemoc> gn8 LMJ
22:30 < LMJ> thx
22:30 < LMJ> A+
22:30 < mnemoc> LMJ: i expect your patches for tomorrow
22:30 < morfoh> gn8 LMJ :)
22:30 < LMJ> what an honnor for me
22:30 < LMJ> emelfm2 got an update 1 week ago irrc
22:30 < karasz> outch
22:31 < mnemoc> LMJ: even better
22:31 < karasz> morfoh: please let go of my hair...
22:31 < mnemoc> karasz: everything from you was commited? anything missing?
22:31 < karasz> i like it on my head, not anywhere else...
22:31 < karasz> from what i posted yes
22:31 < mnemoc> karasz: hit him on his fat stomach
22:31 < morfoh> karasz: I've done so 2 minutes ago :p
22:32 < morfoh> so this is sth. like "phantom pain"
22:32 < karasz> so you already let my hair go?
22:32 < mnemoc> morfoh: if you didn't say so, you didn't do it
22:32 < karasz> damn i should go easier with those pills...
22:33 * mnemoc remember 'mud'
22:34 < karasz> mnemoc: what the heck are you doing in the mud?
22:34 * morfoh is kicking mnemoc's ass
22:34 < karasz> get out of there
22:34 < mnemoc> hey!
22:34 < mnemoc> stop it
22:34 * morfoh is kicking mnemoc's ass again
22:34 * mnemoc kicks back
22:34 < karasz> guys
22:34 < karasz> take it easy
22:34 < karasz> no more kicks please
22:34 * mnemoc pulls karasz
22:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: hehe ... you missed me ...
22:35 < karasz> or i'll move to thaland and become a muaythay fighter
22:35 < mnemoc> morfoh: i haven't stoped trowing kicks
22:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: then you're kicking some other poor guy around here :p
22:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: or the beer makes me a bit harder :)
22:36 * morfoh is opening another bootle
22:36 < mnemoc> morfoh: you haven't noticed you are bleeding
22:36 < mnemoc> and on your knees
22:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: i doesn't matter
22:37 < rxr> rxr: test
22:37 < morfoh> one two one two
22:37 < rxr> can someone post a something to me
22:37 < morfoh> rxr: test one two
22:37 < rxr> hm
22:37 < rxr> aynthing to do for awaylog ?
22:37 < mnemoc> rxr: test test test
22:37 < rxr> /away not enough ?
22:38 < mnemoc> [19:39:30] [log]
22:38 < mnemoc> [19:39:30] awaylog_colors = ON
22:38 < mnemoc> [19:39:30] awaylog_level = MSGS HILIGHT
22:38 < mnemoc> [19:39:30] awaylog_file = ~/.irssi/away.log
22:38 < rxr> ouhm
22:38 < rxr> ok - not tonigh
22:38 < rxr> cu
22:39 < morfoh> sleep well rxr :)
22:39 < rxr> u2
22:39 < mnemoc> cu rxr
22:39 < karasz> cu rxr
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22:54 < karasz> moin Baldzius
22:55 < Baldzius> oops :)
22:55 < Baldzius> hi karasz :)
22:55 < karasz> got you...
22:55 < Baldzius> linux26mm doesn't boot :)
22:55 < karasz> :(
22:55 < Baldzius> heh
22:56 < Baldzius> reiser4 is fast
22:56 < mnemoc> Baldzius: what are you doing on reiser4?
22:57 < Baldzius> now copying files ... 'll try to do reference build on it
23:00 < mnemoc> when reiserfs4 go inside linux mainline?
23:02 < Baldzius> dunno
23:02 < mnemoc> i don't see it's CONFIG on my 2.6.11 kconfig
23:03 < karasz> mnemoc: i gues sit will take some time...
23:04 < karasz> s/ s/s
23:05 < mnemoc> so you patched it?
23:06 < mnemoc> ah, yes.... here it is
23:07 < Baldzius> i reverted to 2.6.14.1 and added patch from namesys
23:08 < Baldzius> i guess they are waiting for 2.6.15.1 to release new patch
23:09 < mnemoc> good i have 2.6.11 at 2.1 ,-)
23:22 < mnemoc> i guess i'll do magic patching from reiser4tools
23:23 * mnemoc moving home
23:23 < Baldzius> jesus christ reiser4 is _super_ fast :)
23:23 < Baldzius> sv up'ed in several seconds
23:23 < Baldzius> svn
23:24 < _Ragnar_> where's the change?
23:24 < Baldzius> in time
23:25 < Baldzius> i have to identical trees , one on ext3 other on reiser4
23:25 < Baldzius> i'd say svn up on reiser4 was 3-5x faster
23:26 < _Ragnar_> oh ok
23:28 < Baldzius> and ... ext3 partition is at the begining and reiser4 partition is at the end of HDD
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--- Day changed Fri Jan 13 2006
00:00 < karasz> isp troubles?
00:00 < mnemoc> sure, as every day at this hour when i ride from office to home + shower :)
00:00 < karasz> ahum
00:00 < karasz> oki
00:01 < karasz> i won't `good night` you then
00:01 < mnemoc> :)
00:01 < karasz> i guess you will be awake for some time..
00:01 < demian> gn8 karasz
00:01 < mnemoc> i'll be here at least 4 more hours :)
00:01 < karasz> 02:01 AM here so
00:01 < mnemoc> gn8 karasz ,-)
00:01 < demian> [18:15]
00:01 < karasz> time to go home from office i guess..
00:02 < karasz> and end a not very glorious day
00:02 < mnemoc> demian: you need a ntp
00:02 < demian> u say i am unsynced ?
00:03 < demian> yes i am anyways.
00:04 < mnemoc> :)
00:05 < demian> i like to feel i am some minutes forward in comparison with other ppl.
00:07 < mnemoc> :)
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00:15 < madtux> hello.
00:15 < demian> madtux.
00:16 < madtux> d3bian.
00:16 < mnemoc> bian?
00:16 < madtux> :)
00:16 < demian> tuanis.
00:16 < madtux> mae en todas :)
00:16 < madtux> vos que pura vida?
00:17 < demian> ahi ahi, jugandomela.
00:17 < madtux> cool :)
00:30 < demian> bye
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05:47 < mnemoc> *yawn*
05:50 < LMJ> hello mnemoc
05:57 < mnemoc> i'm going to sleep now :)
05:57 < mnemoc> gn8 LMJ ,-)
05:58 < LMJ> almost 7h am here
05:58 < mnemoc> almost 3am here
05:58 < LMJ> i woke up because i can't not sleep anymore
05:58 < LMJ> have a good night
05:58 < mnemoc> i go to sleep just when i can't stay awake
05:59 < mnemoc> and if i'm not tired i just pass through
05:59 < mnemoc> but the bike is increasing my sleep hours :\
05:59 < mnemoc> gn8
06:00 < rxr> hi
06:00 < rxr> n8 mnemoc
06:00 < rxr> thanks for the long mail
06:02 < LMJ> already up rxr ?
06:15 < rxr> jups
06:15 < rxr> usually I'm up rather earlier than later
06:15 < rxr> and additionally I awaited communique from taiwan and thus wanted to ensure I'm able to reply before they leave the office again - they are +8h or so
06:23 < LMJ> you are dealing with taiwan for your company business ?
06:24 < rxr> sort of
06:46 < madtux> hey guys.
07:00 < rxr> hey miguel
07:01 < madtux> howdy ?
07:03 < rxr> yeah - how are you ?
07:05 < madtux> i'm ok... moving some stuff between the racks... and doing some firewalling stuff
07:07 < rxr> ic
07:09 < madtux> business doing ok?
07:09 < rxr> yep
07:09 < madtux> great :)
07:16 < CIA-9> rene * r14776 /trunk/package/sparc/silo/silo.desc: * added Url tag to silo
07:25 < CIA-9> rene * r14777 /trunk/package/sparc/silo/silo.desc: * updated silo (1.4.9 -> 1.4.10)
07:31 < rxr> madtux: how is sparc on your side these days ?
08:19 < madtux> well its there at home... i honestly haven't spend much time buidling or developing stuff lately.. much projects at work consuming me
08:24 < mtr_> moin
08:24 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr
08:30 < mtr> firefox and thunderbird fail in preconf hook evaluation
08:31 < mtr> - [[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] && echo ac_cv_visibility_pragma=no >> .mozconfig
08:31 < mtr> + if [ $libdir = *lib64 ] ; then
08:31 < mtr> + echo ac_cv_visibility_pragma=no >> .mozconfig
08:31 < mtr> + fi
08:32 < mtr> ^--- works
08:46 < rxr> mtr: ack, commit
08:51 < CIA-9> mtr * r14778 /trunk/package/ (mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.conf www/firefox/firefox.conf): * fixed preconf hook evaluation for firefox and thunderbird
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09:31 < rxr> hm
09:31 < rxr> why is all the recent tech stuff that el-cheapo?
09:31 < rxr> not only that this Sony Ericsson does have strange noise peaks between songs, no, the included headphones are also extreme junk and one can not even plug in own ones ...
09:33 < rxr> so - now I have Sony Erisson HPM-70, and they do not sound that much better ...
09:34 < rxr> but at least they come with a 3,5mm headphone plug in the middle so I can inject some other phone, and indeed my good older headphones have a way smoother freqyenct spread ...
09:34 < rxr> damn
09:37 < rxr> whatever the type of this older phones was ...
09:39 < rxr> Frequency Response: 6 - 23,000 Hz
09:39 < rxr> hahahaha
09:40 < rxr> on what unlinearity I do not want to know ...
09:44 < rxr> hm
09:44 < rxr> on the amplifier with the new 3.5mm output cable the cell does not as bad as I feared ...
09:44 < rxr> though neither delta1010, yamaha minidisc, or sgi Octane quality ...
09:45 < rxr> must be a rather cheap and ugly mp3 decoder chip and d/a converted in the Sony Erisson k750i ...
09:57 < CIA-9> rene * r14779 /trunk/architecture/ (powerpc/kernel.conf.m4 powerpc64/kernel.conf.m4): * synced powerpc and powerpc64 kernel config
10:46 < rxr> google: parallel make linux 2.6
10:46 < rxr> last hit on the first page, t2 ...
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11:23 < rxr_> http://golem.de/0601/42705.html
11:23 < rxr_> `- someone is paying 850EUR ++ .. .?
11:25 < rxr_> ah, gpl + commerical licensing ...
11:25 < rxr_> that looks more reasonable ... ,-)
11:26 < rxr_> hm, strange
11:26 < rxr_> I wonder why manually a kernel build parallizes more when the in t2 build does build mostly serially ...
11:26 < rxr_> strange
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12:13 < owl> hi
12:14 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEE9B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
12:14 < morfoh> moin
12:15 < rxr> moin morfoh
12:15 < rxr> hi owl
12:15 < morfoh> rxr: hey rxr :)
12:15 < morfoh> hi owl :)
12:16 < rxr> mnemoc: I did some mojor linux* cleanup
12:16 < rxr> mnemoc: I could do even more and remove the custmain ... I guess you would enjoy that ? ...
12:16 < morfoh> rxr: I ordered the wrtg54gl-de but I will get it on the 18th.
12:17 < morfoh> rxr: I wanted to get sure to get the v4.0
12:17 < morfoh> I will check in openwrt2 today
12:18 < morfoh> rxr: I think we should take the time for trying to get a running mips kernel
12:19 < rxr> I have a running mips kernel on my sgi
12:19 < morfoh> oh! cool
12:20 < morfoh> btw, was your proposal for a t2 article finally approved ?
12:21 < karasz> moin all
12:21 < rxr> morfoh: nope, but I think that is no problem, they are just busy ...
12:21 < morfoh> moin karasz
12:27 < karasz> hmmm....
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12:28 < karasz> i ahte that banks use portals which run only on IE
12:28 < karasz> it makes me angry
12:28 < karasz> gfrrrrrr.....
12:28 * karasz is lookin' for a computer with *dows on it :(
12:30 < owl> hehe
12:30 < owl> poor karasz
12:41 < karasz> moin owl :)
12:47 < karasz> bbl
12:47 < morfoh> cu karasz san
12:58 < owl> someone willed to spend me a tft? *smile*
12:59 < morfoh> owl: I just wanted to ask the same question :p
12:59 < owl> morfoh: damnit :(
13:00 < morfoh> owlitta .... don't be sad about just material things
13:00 < rxr> re
13:01 < morfoh> wb senor rxr
13:01 < rxr> heh
13:01 < owl> morfoh: nah. i need one because those CRTs are causing headache...
13:02 < morfoh> did anyone ever expperienced problems installing zlib ... I mean while doing a fresh install from an ISO ?
13:04 < morfoh> owl: yeah ... I know. those "ray canons" aren't that healthy
13:06 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14781 /trunk/package/mail/maildrop/ (maildrop.conf maildrop.desc):
13:06 < CIA-9> * update maildrop (2.0.0 -> 2.0.1)
13:06 < CIA-9> * copyright updates
13:06 < owl> morfoh: ack. especially with 800 x 600 resolution and 50 - 60 hz
13:06 < morfoh> owl: ouch
13:07 < owl> morfoh: yeah :)
13:08 < owl> http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/product_info.php/displays/hyundai/17_hyundai_imagequest_b70a <- what do you think about it?
13:09 < morfoh> from the case it looks like the tft's sold by HP/Compaq ... is that the cheapest one you found ?
13:10 < owl> nope. not the cheapest. just the one with the best "preis/leistungsverhaeltnis".
13:11 < morfoh> but it's looking ok ... but I'm not the big TFT expert
13:12 < LMJ> hello morfoh and owl
13:12 < LMJ> can i comment this TFT ?
13:12 < owl> ack. and if it is not ok, you can say "i don't want it" and send it back.
13:12 < owl> hi LMJ . yeah.
13:12 < morfoh> bonjour LMJ :)
13:12 < LMJ> bonjour
13:13 < LMJ> sound like a recent Samsung TFT screen
13:13 < morfoh> owl: what ? I doubt that it is legal, because you should have the right to send it back
13:13 < LMJ> Kontrast : 700:1 <--- pretty good, min is 500, max ~ 1000
13:14 < LMJ> 300 cd/m² <---- that's a little low, it should be closer to 500 cd/m2
13:14 < owl> morfoh: hm? "fernabsatzgesetz".
13:14 < LMJ> 1280 x 1024 infortunatly normal for a 17"
13:15 < LMJ> Reaktionszeit : 8 ms <--- quite good, average are around 12ms and going down to 8ms, better are under 6,5ms
13:15 < morfoh> owl: anyhow ... I'd not buy a TFT online, because you can't check for pixel errors
13:15 < LMJ> what utilisation you will do with this one ?
13:16 < owl> morfoh: yeah, but you can't buy it in my city. just 2 HW-shops in 30 km arround ND.
13:16 < owl> LMJ: well. developing, as 2nd screen near my laptop-tft
13:16 < rxr> morfoh: I only would buy them online
13:16 < LMJ> looks ok for your needs owl
13:17 < rxr> since most stores does not let you test them anyway and when you buy online you can send back withint 14 days without giving a reason
13:17 < owl> LMJ: yeah ;)
13:17 < rxr> so oder, test
13:17 < owl> hi rxr
13:17 < owl> my words ;)
13:17 < rxr> and if there is something not good, e.g. pixel error or other brokenness just return just with "don't like it"
13:17 < morfoh> rxr: ok ....
13:18 < morfoh> rxr: thanks for the hint ;)
13:18 < morfoh> owl: http://www.hardwareschotte.de/hardware/preise/proid_8010064/preis_HYUNDAI+ImageQuest+B70A
13:18 < LMJ> have you check samsung ?
13:19 < owl> LMJ: nah. and i will never, never, never buy HW made by samsung...
13:19 < LMJ> TFT are good
13:19 < LMJ> ;)
13:20 < owl> morfoh: thx ;)
13:20 < morfoh> owl: yw ;)
13:20 < morfoh> rxr: you had ViewSonic ... right ?
13:20 < owl> LMJ: well... had one notebook... after 3 repairs of dead HDDs i gave it back. and i had a HDD. i also brought it back... everything went into dead HW after some weeks (expect the one HDD.)
13:21 < morfoh> owl: ack ... Samsung HDD's are known to be crap
13:21 < LMJ> do not make a generality owl, i worked on a Computer shop during one year ;)
13:21 < LMJ> Things i remenber : Dell PC for publis are CRAP
13:21 < CIA-9> rene * r14782 /trunk/package/base/linux24/ (linux-conf.in linux24.conf):
13:21 < CIA-9> * refactored crufty generic linux package code and made sure it builds
13:21 < CIA-9> in parallel
13:21 < owl> morfoh: hehe. well, why are they inserted into laptops then? and why earn those laptops "test: very good"? :)
13:22 < rxr> morfoh: yes view sonic
13:22 < morfoh> owl: guess because they are cheap :p
13:22 < owl> LMJ: well. at least my expierences with the "hotline" e.g. are more then bad.
13:22 < owl> morfoh: sigh. :/
13:23 < owl> money is not all, is it? :(
13:24 < morfoh> owl: remember in what kind of society you're living ... then you'll be able to answer it yourself ;)
13:24 < owl> morfoh: ok, ok, i forgot :)
13:24 < morfoh> owl: don't forget it the next time pls :p
13:25 < owl> morfoh: i will try.
13:25 < morfoh> owl: good
13:25 < owl> :)
13:26 < owl> .oO( sigh. how could i forget... had an job interview some days ago. with a person who really was *** "geldgeil")
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13:49 < mnemoc> moin!
13:49 < rxr_> moin!
13:50 < morfoh> hola! senor mnemoc :)
13:50 < mnemoc> hi rxr_ :)
13:50 < mnemoc> feel free to decustmainize linux* :) i have enough fun with native-dietlibc and ooo/java :p
13:51 < morfoh> mnemoc: did you ever had problems installing zlib package from a fresh 2.1.1 ISO ?
13:51 < mnemoc> not that i remember
13:53 -!- You're now known as rxr
13:54 < morfoh> mnemoc: hmmm ... strange. Taniform had the problem while trying to install the voipgw
13:54 < mnemoc> uhm
13:54 < mnemoc> what kind of problem?
13:54 < morfoh> it just hung while trying to install zlib
13:55 < morfoh> everything else before was ok he said
13:59 < mnemoc> did he write the error displayed on screen?
14:00 < morfoh> mnemoc I'll get the error message in the evening ... he is away atm
14:03 < mnemoc> nice :)
14:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: lets see ... meanwhile I'll check that locally
14:08 < mnemoc> http://gobby.0x539.de/index.html <--- package anyone?
14:09 < morfoh> It uses GTK+ 2.6 as its windowing toolkit and thus integrates nicely into the GNOME desktop environment. <-- uhhhh! /me shaking :p
14:11 < morfoh> .oO( can someone kick our prelude maintainer ... again missed a version update )o
14:12 < Baldzius> :)
14:12 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :)
14:12 < Baldzius> hi morfoh, mnemoc :)
14:12 < morfoh> Baldzius: guess I've to do it on my own :p
14:12 < Baldzius> to do what? :)
14:13 < morfoh> Baldzius: updating prelude stuff :p
14:13 < Baldzius> morfoh: don't forget strongswan :)
14:14 < morfoh> Baldzius: I just tell you ... that you'll not waste your time ... "Master of updating" :)
14:14 < morfoh> Baldzius: thanks ... so kick the strongswan maintainer too ;)
14:14 < mnemoc> hi Baldzius
14:14 < mnemoc> Baldzius: http://gobby.0x539.de/index.html :D
14:15 < Baldzius> mnemoc: 've already added to my _TODO_
14:15 < morfoh> .oO( mnemoc seems to be in motivating mode)o
14:15 < mnemoc> Baldzius: :D
14:15 < mnemoc> morfoh: bah
14:15 < Baldzius> maybe someone wants to play with gnash, it p* me totally
14:15 < Baldzius> it compiles just .conf is ugly and hardcoded
14:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: what does your "bah" means ?
14:17 < mnemoc> morfoh: if i would be able to motivate someone we would have a new website long time ago
14:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: I know you tried everything to motivate him ... so don't be that hard to yourself :|
14:21 * rxr burning the next minimal-ppc64 iso ...
14:21 < CIA-9> chris * r14783 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * udpated libprelude (0.9.1 -> 0.9.3)
14:21 * rxr wonders when this damned open firmware will recognize the CD as bootable ...
14:22 < mnemoc> i messure people by what they do, not what they want to do. and i have been unable to finish anything
14:22 < CIA-9> chris * r14784 /trunk/package/security/prewikka/prewikka.desc: * updated prewikka (0.9.2 -> 0.9.3)
14:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: of course every person can "implement" their own measuring methods ... but I think yours is quite accurate :/
14:28 < rxr> diff -r -U 1 cdrtools-2.01 cdrtools-2.01-nonverb/ > package/filesystem/cdrtools/no-junk.patch
14:28 < mnemoc> :D
14:28 < rxr> `- this damn fluff finally hit my nerves too badly ...
14:28 < rxr> commit after a testbuild ...
14:28 < mnemoc> hey, can you improve -scanbus ?
14:29 < rxr> hm whe?
14:29 < rxr> I exclusively use dev=/dev/...
14:29 < mnemoc> me too
14:30 < rxr> why -scanbus then ?
14:30 < mnemoc> some apps use it
14:30 < rxr> hm
14:30 < mnemoc> and as it returns cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
14:30 < rxr> I would rather patch it away fro the apps ...
14:30 < mnemoc> cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root.
14:30 < mnemoc> cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
14:30 < mnemoc> the app has to be set everytime to use the hardcoded path
14:31 < rxr> I seldom have issues with that and my users that are on KDE and K3B ...
14:31 < mnemoc> :)
14:31 * mnemoc rsyncing at 4.73kB/s to gsmp :'(
14:35 < CIA-9> chris * r14785 /trunk/package/security/strongswan/strongswan.desc: * updated strongswan (2.5.7 -> 2.6.0)
14:38 < rxr> test
14:39 < owl> rxr: ?
14:39 < rxr> had some lag
14:39 < owl> ah
14:42 < karasz> re
14:42 < morfoh> wb karasz
14:42 < karasz> thanks morfoh san
14:57 < demian> hi
14:57 < mnemoc> wb karasz, demian
14:57 < mnemoc> owlita!
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15:02 < mnemoc> wb sepp_
15:05 < LMJ> morning mnemoc
15:05 < mnemoc> hi LMJ
15:05 < karasz> moin sepp SerWou & co
15:06 < LMJ> moin karasz, sepp
15:06 < mnemoc> rxr: no caterpilar was decent enough as pre-mascot-logo?
15:07 < karasz> btw catepillar
15:07 < mnemoc> :p
15:08 < mnemoc> sorry
15:08 < LMJ> mnemoc loves big engines who smokes a lot
15:08 < LMJ> ;)
15:08 < mnemoc> :)
15:08 < rxr> no idea
15:09 < rxr> was the some final form?
15:09 < rxr> e.g. from the settlers of catan artist ?
15:09 < rxr> I do not like the caterpillar as it too much
15:09 < rxr> I thought more about something like a pretty butterfly when this idea first came up
15:09 < rxr> e.g. the logo should be something rather pretty
15:09 < mnemoc> jsaw: promised some drawings, but nothing yet afaik
15:10 < rxr> I have my doubts if too many people will find a bare caterpillar too pretty as it ...
15:10 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. all is open
15:10 < rxr> I just posted my brothers sketching as other ideas I would not chose any of the so far made proposals as it ...
15:10 < rxr> all is open ...
15:12 < CIA-9> rene * r14786 /trunk/package/filesystem/cdrtools/no-junk.patch:
15:12 < CIA-9> * patched away all the junk in cdrtools that got on my nerves for
15:12 < CIA-9> far too long time already
15:12 < rxr> so
15:12 < rxr> more than in my initial patch
15:12 < rxr> far too much junk in that code ...
15:12 < rxr> so /me rebooting to see what the firmware does with the new minimal64 iso....
15:13 < mnemoc> cdrtools' author trolls too much against linux
15:13 < karasz> so
15:14 < karasz> btw catepillar
15:14 < karasz> http://www.immersivetechnologies.com/Images/machine/cat797.jpg
15:14 < karasz> :D
15:14 < karasz> or better http://berny79.altervista.org/Documenti/Immagini/Cat797.jpg
15:15 < mnemoc> karasz: my country lives from minery
15:15 < mnemoc> karasz: there are trucks here 3 times those you showed
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15:16 < karasz> really?
15:16 < karasz> i thought that catepillar is the greatest...
15:16 < mnemoc> a person is less than half of the radious of the wheels
15:17 < karasz> second image
15:17 < mnemoc> those persons are of the size of the radius
15:17 < karasz> ahm
15:17 < karasz> i thought of diametre
15:17 < karasz> mnemoc: model?
15:17 < mnemoc> no idea, let me see if a find something
15:18 < mnemoc> that machinery is used at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuquicamata btw
15:18 < rxr> re
15:18 < rxr> hm
15:18 < rxr> of course it did not boot :-(
15:18 < mnemoc> :(
15:18 < rxr> too bad t2 is the only system really documenting hat to do to create boot cds ...
15:18 < rxr> so no easy cut'n paste from others ...
15:19 < karasz> T 282B :D
15:19 < rxr> e.g. the gentoo code sucks and the catalyst fluff does not do really something differently
15:20 < karasz> mnemoc: http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/worlds-largest-truck-016525.php still diametre but it was in 2004
15:20 < LMJ> ROTFL
15:21 < mnemoc> karasz: imagine the machines to load those trucks :)
15:21 < mnemoc> http://www.codelco.com/imagenes/corporacion/divisiones/norte/ficha.jpg <--- no good picture yet :(
15:22 < morfoh> oh my ... oh my ... but we should consider that it's quite hard to move that kind of truck :p
15:23 < karasz> yup
15:23 < karasz> thoose are special escavators which handle at least 50 m3 dirt at once
15:23 < mnemoc> i'm sure i have seen pictures of trucks bigger than that... but where :\
15:28 < mnemoc> now i think it was just 'perspective'
15:29 < karasz> are those Komatsu?
15:30 < mnemoc> http://www.tandemove-seskoky.cz/data/USR_039_DEFAULT/Chuquicamata__medeny_dul.jpg <--- parking area :)
15:31 < mnemoc> no idea
15:31 < karasz> http://mischa2000.de/
15:31 < karasz> teknik
15:31 < karasz> truks
15:33 < mnemoc> LMJ: emelfm2 package patch doesn't have author, and [U] is broken
15:36 < karasz> guys i have a rar and file gives me: RAR archive data, v1d, os: Win32
15:36 < karasz> can i open it...?
15:36 < owl> unrar?
15:37 < karasz> i thought of ark ... but it doesn't cope with it
15:38 < mnemoc> unrar is packaged
15:39 < mnemoc> http://tblogs.bootsnall.com/fa//archives/images/IMG_0491.JPG <--- all are wheel = '2xperson' :(
15:44 < rxr> re
15:45 < karasz> mnemoc: unrar is pakaged... but it gets confused by win path separator...
15:46 < mnemoc> o_O
15:46 < karasz> the file is a win archiwe containing `\`
15:46 < karasz> not /`
15:46 < mnemoc> and it fails due to that??
15:47 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/ please
15:49 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14787 /trunk/package/ (mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.conf www/firefox/firefox.conf): * fix typo introduced in r14778 ([[ ... ]] not [ ... ])
15:50 < rxr> btw. jsaw I would use some other detection when you build ppc64 - x86-64 without multilib this thing fails ...
15:51 < rxr> I would check for 64 bit pointers ...
15:51 < jsaw> ?
15:51 < rxr> if [[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] ; then
15:51 < rxr> nothing todo with that issue ...
15:51 < rxr> with a multilib less and thus /lib not lib64 64bit build this will not be run ...
15:52 < jsaw> we have actually way more problems with the whole lib64 etal thing...
15:52 < jsaw> a complete check is needed...
15:52 < rxr> I propose [ $arch_sizeof_char_p = 8 ] ...
15:52 < jsaw> there are quite some places, where .../lib is hardcoded into configure scripts
15:52 < rxr> jsaw: yes but there is not much left
15:53 < jsaw> so, libdir as well as that have to be re-checked
15:53 < rxr> I work on the resulting systems since months without issues ...
15:53 < jsaw> rxr: did you recently compile python?
15:53 < rxr> hm - most probably within my usual builds
15:53 < jsaw> it compiles, yes
15:54 < mnemoc> rxr: if targetarchis64; then :)
15:54 < jsaw> but due to hardcoded values in Setup.in, a lot of checks failed
15:54 < jsaw> so, I assume, way more configure scripts are wrong
15:54 < jsaw> or pam_ldap
15:55 < rxr> jsaw: maybe - my plan is to fix packages that throw files into the wrong libdir and the remaining stuff where feature are not used due to buggy configure review on-demand
15:55 < jsaw> if I didn't try compile it only with openldap, we wouldn't have noticed that it won't find the openldap libs...
15:56 < mnemoc> rxr: do we wnat lib-$arch on dietlibc? doing ILIBDIR= instead of LIBDIR= would solve that
15:57 < rxr> we could leave dietlibc as it is now until we do the next big rearrangement in favour to not introduce new regressions again ...
15:57 < Baldzius> jsaw: i told about that with gnash, configure cript is really acting strange
15:57 < Baldzius> and i saw really strange paths
15:58 < jsaw> rxr: I would like to have to more functions, one that returns the libdir-suffix, and one the target architecture bits
15:58 < jsaw> two more *
15:58 < rxr> we already have this variables
15:58 < jsaw> which?
15:58 < rxr> target architecture bits should be equivalent to what I pasted
15:58 < rxr> [ $arch_sizeof_char_p = 8 ]
15:59 < rxr> those in archtest.{out,sh}
15:59 < jsaw> acceptible, but in terms of readability, I'd prefer bits...
15:59 < jsaw> rxr: and library suffix?
15:59 < rxr> that is what configure uses as well, thus the name
16:00 < rxr> what was your problem with libdir ?
16:00 < jsaw> as you mentioned, there might be more than just "lib64", e.g libnof or so
16:00 < rxr> sure, but libdir is set accordingly
16:01 < jsaw> [[ $libdir != *lib ]] is not very handy
16:01 < jsaw> [ "$libdirsuffix" ] would be much more nice
16:01 < jsaw> and more general
16:02 < rxr> libdirsuffix={libdir##*/}
16:02 < rxr> insert missing $
16:02 < jsaw> yeah, but central
16:02 < rxr> feel free to define it in the setconfopt or where the libdir is set along libdir
16:02 < jsaw> oh, no I meant
16:02 < jsaw> libdirsuffix=${libdir##*/lib}
16:03 < jsaw> rxr: may I, ok, I'll do
16:03 < rxr> hm
16:03 < rxr> why just the end, where do you need that ?
16:03 < rxr> (asside the ugly kde configure scripts)
16:03 < jsaw> python, pam_ldap, ...
16:03 < rxr> ugly and kde in one line, no no - i meant misguided or so ... ,-)
16:03 < jsaw> I tell you, there are more hidden places than we know of...
16:03 < jsaw> configure scripts may fail silently
16:04 < rxr> well, sure, but isn't the libdir needed more often anyway
16:04 < jsaw> by just not adding some functionality somebody might expect
16:04 < rxr> you always can get just the suffix by peeling of the libdir name as it ...
16:04 < jsaw> I know, but ${libdir##*/lib} is not very obviously readable
16:05 < mnemoc> ack
16:05 < rxr> but two more variables just to plesae shell novices ?
16:05 < rxr> well, go for them
16:05 < jsaw> only one, I already declined in the case of arch_sizeof_char_p
16:05 < jsaw> ;)
16:05 < rxr> I just wonder if we really should add two convience variables too easily ..
16:06 < rxr> jsaw: well, ok, but still just the suffix?
16:06 < rxr> often the ${libdir##*/} is needed
16:06 < jsaw> yep, look for example into python.conf
16:06 < rxr> when you want to avoid peeling on variables you would need two libdir related helper vars ...
16:06 < jsaw> (and believe me, there are more places like that)
16:07 * mnemoc prefer helper functions
16:07 < mnemoc> if world_sucks; then
16:07 < jsaw> I'll add a check for hardcoded */lib directories now, locally
16:08 < jsaw> and hope, not too many packages do this...
16:08 < jsaw> but I fear, most packages that use software installed in /opt are affected...
16:10 < jsaw> gotta go now, cu later
16:11 < karasz> cu jsaw
16:11 < morfoh> cu jsaw
16:12 < karasz> btw
16:12 < karasz> story of the day
16:12 < karasz> girl goes on vacation in foreign land
16:12 < karasz> beautifull place sea side and so
16:12 < karasz> girl enjoys her vacation very much
16:13 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14788 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-speech/ (gnome-speech.conf gnome-speech.desc):
16:13 < CIA-9> * set java-home to "none" if java-gnome is not available
16:13 < CIA-9> * copyright updates
16:13 < karasz> in fdact so much that she runs out of money
16:13 < karasz> now she must return home, take a flight
16:13 < mnemoc> karasz: girl is taking vacations from you?
16:14 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14789 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * update vserver kernel patch (2.6.15-rc7-vs2.0.1 -> 2.6.15-vs2.0.1.2)
16:14 < karasz> in the airport she realises that she hasn't got the required amount of money to buy a tocket
16:14 < mnemoc> *G*
16:14 < karasz> s/tocket/ticket
16:14 < karasz> so she begins performing a live strip show to colect the required amount :D
16:15 < karasz> male by passers were out of luck because yhe police intervened before it got really interesting ....
16:15 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14790 /trunk/package/graphic/libexif-gtk/libexif-gtk.desc: * libexif-gtk must be build at a later point
16:15 < jsaw> *gone really now* - cu
16:15 < rxr> hm
16:15 < rxr> cu jsaw
16:15 < karasz> gorl now has the amount of money required, but cannot go home because she is in jail
16:16 < karasz> the story is real and happened today in .mx
16:16 < rxr> burning on the dual-core is no fun yet - each time a different checksum ...
16:18 < karasz> mnemoc: nah
16:18 < rxr> karasz: where do you get these stories from? inbox spam ?
16:19 < morfoh> :D
16:19 < demian> how can i merge the contents of a t2/download dir to another t2-versionXX/download dir without conflicts doing this right ?
16:20 < demian> did a cp -rfv
16:20 < karasz> rxr no
16:20 < karasz> radio
16:21 < karasz> i thought it was funny
16:21 < rxr> karasz: heh, yeah ,-)
16:21 < rxr> karasz: just continue to post the story of the day to us /me is getting used to it
16:21 < mnemoc> demian: -alt-dir makes hardlinks
16:21 < karasz> btw girl is from Baltic, blonde green eyes and suposedly very beautifull ;)
16:22 < mnemoc> and download dir can be a symlink
16:22 < demian> ok
16:22 * karasz seems to be transforming in entertainer of #T2 :D
16:22 < demian> doing a listing:
16:22 < demian> 802
16:22 < demian> 1327
16:22 < mnemoc> i have t2-download/$version/ and t2-$version/download pointing to ../t2-download/$version
16:23 < mnemoc> and Download always called with -alt-dir ../t2-download
16:23 < demian> 802 are unknown, 1327 are missing.. did that when merged download dirs.
16:24 < mnemoc> demian: move it to t2-download/mixup, and then Download -required on others pointing to that alt-dir
16:24 < mnemoc> demian: then you rm -rf mixup :)
16:24 < mnemoc> brb
16:30 < karasz> cu mnemoc
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16:40 < demian> did another way, but thank mnemoc.
16:40 < demian> -alt-dir was useful/
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16:47 < demian> for file in `cut -d: -f2 unknown | sed -s "s/^ //g" | sed -s "s/^download/\.\.\/download\/trunk/g"` ; do rm -fv $file ; done
16:47 < demian> :) removed conflicting files for that version.
16:49 < demian> now i will cksum them..
16:52 < rxr> I find it quite annoying that all the intesting low level details are so hidden in the others dists ...
16:53 < rxr> I make a lot of crosses in the calender when I have a t2 CD booting on the dual core
17:00 < rxr> hah!
17:00 < rxr> found something ...
17:03 < rxr> karasz: I also tracked some low-level info regarding booting open power
17:03 < rxr> when will you get that box ?
17:03 < rxr> also I found what might help booting my old, aging rs6k automatically ...
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17:05 < karasz> rxr i do not have a date on it
17:06 < karasz> i have some problems with that customer...
17:06 < karasz> when i will know for sure i will anounce you, rest assured
17:07 < mipe> so another t2-powered box installed here
17:12 < rxr> mipe: ,-)
17:13 < mipe> i thought i bought 32bit sempron i got the 64bit version of it...
17:13 < rxr> on http://www.heise.de is a the name of a company that has many t2 systems deployed world wide in production use ...
17:13 < rxr> mipe: cool ,-)
17:16 < rxr> so - me trying the latest ppc64 burn ...
17:17 < mipe> silly question: would the be any gain to build -march=athlon64 -m32 desktop... ie. getting sse2 and 3dnowext support?
17:18 < rxr> yay - got it
17:18 < rxr> finally I can sleep again with t2 ppc64 bootable ...
17:19 * rxr turns his eyes and sees the Octane and sparc boxes and knows about the work still to be done
17:24 < CIA-9> rene * r14791 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/boot/ofboot.b:
17:24 < CIA-9> * marked our ppc, open firmware boot script MacRISC4 compatible so
17:24 < CIA-9> recent 64bit macs consider it
17:26 < CIA-9> amery * r14792 /trunk/package/filesystem/mdf2iso/ (. mdf2iso.cache mdf2iso.desc):
17:26 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel
17:26 < CIA-9> * added mdf2iso (0.3) - a MDF to ISO converter
17:28 < CIA-9> rene * r14793 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/boot/boot.in:
17:28 < CIA-9> * replaced the long, underscored HFS volume ID with just T2 and added
17:28 < CIA-9> -no-desktop (from Gentoo catalyst) - might save some bytes - to the
17:28 < CIA-9> powerpc iso options
17:29 < rxr> so, the ppc64 use case now loads yaboot and in theory also the kernel
17:30 < rxr> though on my dual-core 2.6.15 does not come up due to those bits I have in the running kernel are not yet upstream yet ...
17:35 < mnemoc> wait for 2.7 :)
17:35 < rxr> no 16-rc1
17:35 < mnemoc> :)
17:36 < rxr> and/or pull the patches out of powerpc.git ...
17:37 < mnemoc> lars added cogito a few days ago
17:39 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp
17:39 < sepp> moin
17:41 < demian> wv sepp
17:41 < demian> umm.. welcome vack ? sorry.
17:41 < sepp> vw ? :)
17:41 < sepp> hi demian
17:44 < mnemoc> demian: _back_
17:46 < demian> i know.. it was just that 0x62 is too near from 0x73 in my keyboard, my finger pressed the bad key
17:46 < demian> s/73/76
17:47 * demian using querty kb layout
17:47 < sepp> and no chars, only hex values :P ?
17:47 < demian> alternatively zxcvb
17:48 < sepp> i mean printed on the keys ...
17:48 < demian> that would be cool.. but nop. i was just geeking a bit.
17:48 < demian> ;-)
17:49 * demian looking at thinkgeek for a hex labeled kb
17:49 < sepp> hehe :)
17:50 < demian> found nothing.
17:51 < demian> umm. ppl are strange. who havent thought in a hex labeled keyboard? :p
17:51 < mnemoc> do you look at the kb when you type?
17:52 < mnemoc> then, do you care what is draw there?
17:52 < demian> sometimes. not a perfect type writer.
17:53 * demian is a 3-finger type writer
17:53 < mnemoc> i would make the same typos on a labeled or on a blank keyboard :p
17:53 < mnemoc> oh
17:53 < demian> anyways i do write fast.. wanna play typespeed ?
17:54 < demian> :)
17:56 < sepp> rules, someone says a number of hex values and the 1st one who managed to type it is the winner?
17:58 < demian> umm. ok.. gimme a second to open a console next to this one, and do man ascii..
17:58 < demian> or maybe run `bc` in hex mode.
17:59 < demian> :p
18:05 < karasz> bbl
18:07 * demian is going school
18:07 < demian> bye
18:08 < sepp> cu demian, karasz
18:19 < demian> for file in `grep -v -E "missing|No" cksums | cut -d: -f2 | sed -s "s/^ download/..\/download\/trunk/g"` ; do rm -fv $file ; done
18:19 < demian> finished cleaning.
18:20 < mnemoc> demian: ./scripts/Cleanup -download
18:20 < demian> umm.. what does it does ?
18:20 < mnemoc> remove all files at download/ which are unknown
18:21 < demian> :s thanks.. well, bye
18:23 < demian> what in my case i use alt dit for download content ?
18:24 < mnemoc> you have another download/ and you want to take files from there and not duplicate space (hardlink)
18:24 < mnemoc> i have:
18:25 < mnemoc> t2-$foo/download -> ../t2-download/$foo (symlink)
18:25 < mnemoc> using -alt-dir ../t2-download
18:25 < demian> ok, so wont use alt-dir.
18:25 < demian> bye
18:26 < mnemoc> :)
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18:46 < misl> hi folks :)
18:46 < mnemoc> hi misl
19:10 < sepp> hi misl :)
19:20 < CIA-9> amery * r14796 /trunk/package/filesystem/b5i2iso/ (. b5i2iso.cache b5i2iso.conf b5i2iso.desc):
19:20 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel
19:20 < CIA-9> * added b5i2iso (0.2) - a Blindwrite to ISO converter
19:20 < CIA-9> amery * r14795 /trunk/package/filesystem/ccd2iso/ (. ccd2iso.cache ccd2iso.desc configure.patch):
19:20 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel
19:20 < CIA-9> * added ccd2iso (0.2) - a CloneCD to ISO converter
19:20 < CIA-9> amery * r14794 /trunk/package/filesystem/nrg2iso/ (. .nrg2iso.desc.swp nrg2iso.cache nrg2iso.conf nrg2iso.desc):
19:20 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel
19:20 < CIA-9> * added nrg2iso (0.4) - a NRG to ISO converter
19:20 < mnemoc> shit*
19:20 < mnemoc> err
19:20 < sepp> vim ?
19:20 < mnemoc> sh*t
19:20 < mnemoc> yes
19:21 < Baldzius> anyone using linux26mm ?
19:21 < mnemoc> rene i guess
19:22 < CIA-9> amery * r14797 /trunk/package/filesystem/nrg2iso/.nrg2iso.desc.swp: * removed .swp file from nrgr2iso package, sorry
19:29 < CIA-9> amery * r14798 /trunk/package/filesystem/bin2iso/ (. bin2iso.cache bin2iso.conf bin2iso.desc):
19:29 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel
19:29 < CIA-9> * added bin2iso (0.2) - a Bin to ISO converter
19:41 < CIA-9> amery * r14799 /trunk/package/emulators/vmware/ (8 files):
19:41 < CIA-9> Tobias C. Schmidt
19:41 < CIA-9> * added vmware (5.5.1-19175) - A virtual x86 PC
19:48 < _Ragnar_> o_o
19:50 < CIA-9> amery * r14800 /trunk/package/emulators/vmware/vmware.desc: * changed vmware package to be optional, due to licensing
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19:56 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14801 /trunk/package/emulators/vmware/vmware.desc: * change vmware to download locally ...
19:57 < mnemoc> not redistributable source file?
19:57 < jsaw> Not sure
19:57 < mnemoc> :)
19:57 < jsaw> just being cautious
19:57 < jsaw> ...
19:57 < mnemoc> better
20:00 < jsaw> gah
20:00 < jsaw> tar xvf VMware-* | grep EULA
20:01 < karasz> re
20:01 < jsaw> I'm blind, I've seen this 4-letter word...
20:02 < mnemoc> :\
20:04 < CIA-9> aldas * r14802 /trunk/package/security/freeradius/ (config.in freeradius.conf freeradius.desc): * updated freeradius (1.1.0-pre0 -> 1.1.0)
20:05 < CIA-9> aldas * r14803 /trunk/package/network/openldap/openldap.desc: * updated openldap (2.3.15 -> 2.3.17)
20:07 < Baldzius> jsaw: should i commit gnash?
20:09 < jsaw> yes
20:09 < mnemoc> works?
20:10 < Baldzius> compiles , just .conf is ugly and hardcoded
20:10 < Baldzius> someone has to polish it because i am p*
20:10 < Baldzius> but not woking for me
20:10 < mnemoc> ehm
20:15 < CIA-9> aldas * r14804 /trunk/package/multimedia/gnash/ (. gnash.conf gnash.desc): * added gnash (20051226) - Gnash - free flash movie player
20:15 < Baldzius> jsaw: it's yours :)
20:15 < mnemoc> Baldzius: don't use package name on [I]
20:15 < Baldzius> damn how i hate it :)
20:15 < Baldzius> oops
20:19 < LMJ> hellooo
20:19 < Baldzius> hi LMJ
20:19 < mnemoc> hi LMJ
20:19 < LMJ> what's up guys ?
20:20 < mnemoc> LMJ: i was trying to review the packages you mailed, your fm [U] doesn't exist
20:20 < LMJ> what i put ?
20:22 < mnemoc> 1) send plain text .diff attachments per package
20:22 < mnemoc> 2) make patches at ., not package/
20:23 < mnemoc> no idea what's current home of your fm :)
20:23 < LMJ> wowow slow down
20:25 * mnemoc frozen
20:25 < CIA-9> aldas * r14805 /trunk/package/audio/xmms2/ (xmms2.conf xmms2.desc): * updated xmms2 (0.2DrAlban -> 0.2DrBombay)
20:25 < Baldzius> :)
20:25 < LMJ> maybe should i stop to submit packages ;)
20:26 < mnemoc> LMJ: no, just send them one by one
20:26 < mnemoc> so i can evaluate one by one :)
20:26 < LMJ> i haven't follow any recommendations
20:27 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14806 /trunk/package/multimedia/gnash/ (gnash.conf gnash.desc):
20:27 < CIA-9> * a bit of cleanup (removing hardcoded firefox stuff)
20:27 < CIA-9> untested
20:27 < mnemoc> LMJ: but you will :)
20:28 * LMJ is scared and think mnemoc likes big trunks...
20:29 < mnemoc> uh
20:30 < LMJ> and remenber*
20:32 < mnemoc> morfoh: ping
20:32 < rxr> re
20:32 < mnemoc> wb rxr
20:32 < Baldzius> hi rxr
20:33 < jsaw> bye bye
20:34 < Baldzius> bye jsaw, i am testing 14806 :)
20:34 < mnemoc> bye jsaw
20:35 < rxr> linux26mm what ?
20:35 < Baldzius> is it stable to use?
20:37 < rxr> depends
20:38 < rxr> works more than less depending on the hw
20:38 < rxr> I would not base a production system onit ..
20:42 < Baldzius> is it normal that $firefox_prefix variable starts without "/" like -> opt/firefox
20:43 < rxr> yes
20:43 < rxr> that is all fine
20:43 < rxr> do you see a problem somewhere ?
20:43 < Baldzius> no, i'll fix it
20:43 < Baldzius> jsaw just missed that in gnash.conf
20:44 < Baldzius> he revised my hardcoded .conf
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20:54 < acehunky> mnemoc: i am here
20:55 < acehunky> rxr: hi
20:56 < rxr> hi acehunky
20:56 < karasz> hello acehunky
20:56 < acehunky> hello people
20:56 < acehunky> can we have a short conference ?
20:57 < rxr> yeah
20:57 < acehunky> karasz: nice to meet you buddy
20:57 < acehunky> can you create it and invite me there ?
20:57 < karasz> you too acehunky although i do not remember you... (should I?)
20:58 < mnemoc> karasz: i doubt :)
20:58 < acehunky> umm well i was the one who asked question bout loading T2 on Vmware ;)
20:58 < karasz> ok
20:58 < karasz> i didn't lost my memories at least it seems so
20:58 < karasz> another nick i guess
20:58 < acehunky> yeah chat_jokey
20:58 < karasz> ohum
20:59 < acehunky> IRC ate up my one nic ..
20:59 < acehunky> after time out ..and wasnt releasing so creatd another one
21:03 < morfoh> re
21:03 < morfoh> mnemoc: pong :)
21:04 < mnemoc> hi morfoh
21:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: we should rather use sth. like a 3 way handshake :p
21:04 < mnemoc> o.o
21:04 < morfoh> ^_^
21:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: companero ... what's up ?
21:06 < sepp> ?U?
21:06 < morfoh> hans-peter ?
21:06 < morfoh> :p
21:07 < sepp> ;)
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21:20 < karasz> hi morfoh
21:20 < morfoh> hey karasz ... "men of the day" :p
21:21 < karasz> i am only one
21:21 < karasz> and i am not the man of the day
21:21 < karasz> but the story teller man of the day ;)
21:23 < morfoh> :)
21:46 < karasz> finaly
21:47 < karasz> manualy but i can mount my usb pen
21:47 < karasz> but i still miss the automount feature... :(
21:58 < mnemoc> how umount works on 'automounting' philosophy?
21:59 < rxr> umount as soon as unused for some time I guess
21:59 < rxr> but I never used it
21:59 * rxr on udev / hal ...
22:02 * morfoh wishes rxr all the best on udev / hal :)
22:05 < rxr> thanks
22:10 < karasz> hmm...
22:10 < karasz> `3 way handshake`
22:10 * karasz trying to imagine ...oO
22:11 * karasz thinks that can only be that morfoh san imagines that he is an octopus .oOo.....
22:13 -!- karasz is now known as Dorada
22:14 < Dorada> morfoh: san you should watchout .... Dorada may come for you...
22:15 < rxr> ok - n8 all
22:15 < Dorada> gn8 rxr
22:15 -!- Dorada is now known as karasz
22:16 < rxr> have a nice night
22:16 < LMJ> hello
22:16 < karasz> bonsoiree SerWou ;)
22:17 < karasz> whou that is surelyy wrong...
22:17 < LMJ> any idea why php 5.0.5 won't compile on a light webserver t2 2.1 http://pastebin.com/504638
22:17 < LMJ> "bonne soirée" = have a good evening in the next stuff you will do "bonsoir" : good evening ;)
22:18 < karasz> but there is also soiree?
22:18 < karasz> with an accesnt on one e
22:18 < karasz> ?
22:18 < LMJ> "soirée" is the only valid word
22:18 < karasz> meaning some kind of party or some...
22:18 < karasz> ok
22:19 < karasz> i won't argue with a native speacker...
22:19 < karasz> i really hate my french teacher...
22:19 < LMJ> hehe
22:20 < karasz> no, really because of she i didn't learned more french...
22:20 < LMJ> she teach what ?
22:20 < LMJ> sex ? ;)
22:20 < LMJ> french kiss ?
22:20 < karasz> o_O
22:20 < karasz> french teacher as in french language teacher
22:21 < karasz> i was around 15 she was around 45 so no french kissing if you catch my drift
22:21 < LMJ> hehehe
22:21 < LMJ> rotfl
22:21 < LMJ> well, gtg now
22:22 < LMJ> i will see tmorrow for my PHP problem
22:22 < karasz> cu SerWou...
22:22 < mnemoc> LMJ: /usr/src/t2-src/src.php.1137189972.24184.fb40f41e/php-5.0.5/sapi/cli/php: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied
22:22 < mnemoc> ^--- wth? cross compiling?
22:22 < LMJ> I KNOW
22:22 < LMJ> grsec !
22:23 < mnemoc> :\
22:23 < LMJ> what i should unprotect between
22:23 < mnemoc> no idea
22:23 < LMJ> /usr/src/t2-src/src.php.1137189972.24184.fb40f41e/php-5.0.5/sapi/cli/php <--- that thing ?
22:23 < mnemoc> just don't build on production servers
22:23 < morfoh> karasz: regarding the 3 way handshake I was more thinking in communication protocols :p
22:23 < mnemoc> me too
22:24 * karasz hides deeeeeeepp....
22:28 * karasz carefully peeks out from his hidding place
22:29 < mnemoc> noone needs to hide at #t2
22:29 * morfoh catches karasz on his hair ... hehe.. gor him :)
22:29 < mnemoc> :
22:29 < mnemoc> :p
22:29 < LMJ> good night the channn
22:30 < LMJ> see you tomorrow
22:30 < mnemoc> gn8 LMJ
22:30 < LMJ> thx
22:30 < LMJ> A+
22:30 < mnemoc> LMJ: i expect your patches for tomorrow
22:30 < morfoh> gn8 LMJ :)
22:30 < LMJ> what an honnor for me
22:30 < LMJ> emelfm2 got an update 1 week ago irrc
22:30 < karasz> outch
22:31 < mnemoc> LMJ: even better
22:31 < karasz> morfoh: please let go of my hair...
22:31 < mnemoc> karasz: everything from you was commited? anything missing?
22:31 < karasz> i like it on my head, not anywhere else...
22:31 < karasz> from what i posted yes
22:31 < mnemoc> karasz: hit him on his fat stomach
22:31 < morfoh> karasz: I've done so 2 minutes ago :p
22:32 < morfoh> so this is sth. like "phantom pain"
22:32 < karasz> so you already let my hair go?
22:32 < mnemoc> morfoh: if you didn't say so, you didn't do it
22:32 < karasz> damn i should go easier with those pills...
22:33 * mnemoc remember 'mud'
22:34 < karasz> mnemoc: what the heck are you doing in the mud?
22:34 * morfoh is kicking mnemoc's ass
22:34 < karasz> get out of there
22:34 < mnemoc> hey!
22:34 < mnemoc> stop it
22:34 * morfoh is kicking mnemoc's ass again
22:34 * mnemoc kicks back
22:34 < karasz> guys
22:34 < karasz> take it easy
22:34 < karasz> no more kicks please
22:34 * mnemoc pulls karasz
22:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: hehe ... you missed me ...
22:35 < karasz> or i'll move to thaland and become a muaythay fighter
22:35 < mnemoc> morfoh: i haven't stoped trowing kicks
22:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: then you're kicking some other poor guy around here :p
22:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: or the beer makes me a bit harder :)
22:36 * morfoh is opening another bootle
22:36 < mnemoc> morfoh: you haven't noticed you are bleeding
22:36 < mnemoc> and on your knees
22:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: i doesn't matter
22:37 < rxr> rxr: test
22:37 < morfoh> one two one two
22:37 < rxr> can someone post a something to me
22:37 < morfoh> rxr: test one two
22:37 < rxr> hm
22:37 < rxr> aynthing to do for awaylog ?
22:37 < mnemoc> rxr: test test test
22:37 < rxr> /away not enough ?
22:38 < mnemoc> [19:39:30] [log]
22:38 < mnemoc> [19:39:30] awaylog_colors = ON
22:38 < mnemoc> [19:39:30] awaylog_level = MSGS HILIGHT
22:38 < mnemoc> [19:39:30] awaylog_file = ~/.irssi/away.log
22:38 < rxr> ouhm
22:38 < rxr> ok - not tonigh
22:38 < rxr> cu
22:39 < morfoh> sleep well rxr :)
22:39 < rxr> u2
22:39 < mnemoc> cu rxr
22:39 < karasz> cu rxr
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22:54 < karasz> moin Baldzius
22:55 < Baldzius> oops :)
22:55 < Baldzius> hi karasz :)
22:55 < karasz> got you...
22:55 < Baldzius> linux26mm doesn't boot :)
22:55 < karasz> :(
22:55 < Baldzius> heh
22:56 < Baldzius> reiser4 is fast
22:56 < mnemoc> Baldzius: what are you doing on reiser4?
22:57 < Baldzius> now copying files ... 'll try to do reference build on it
23:00 < mnemoc> when reiserfs4 go inside linux mainline?
23:02 < Baldzius> dunno
23:02 < mnemoc> i don't see it's CONFIG on my 2.6.11 kconfig
23:03 < karasz> mnemoc: i gues sit will take some time...
23:04 < karasz> s/ s/s
23:05 < mnemoc> so you patched it?
23:06 < mnemoc> ah, yes.... here it is
23:07 < Baldzius> i reverted to 2.6.14.1 and added patch from namesys
23:08 < Baldzius> i guess they are waiting for 2.6.15.1 to release new patch
23:09 < mnemoc> good i have 2.6.11 at 2.1 ,-)
23:22 < mnemoc> i guess i'll do magic patching from reiser4tools
23:23 * mnemoc moving home
23:23 < Baldzius> jesus christ reiser4 is _super_ fast :)
23:23 < Baldzius> sv up'ed in several seconds
23:23 < Baldzius> svn
23:24 < _Ragnar_> where's the change?
23:24 < Baldzius> in time
23:25 < Baldzius> i have to identical trees , one on ext3 other on reiser4
23:25 < Baldzius> i'd say svn up on reiser4 was 3-5x faster
23:26 < _Ragnar_> oh ok
23:28 < Baldzius> and ... ext3 partition is at the begining and reiser4 partition is at the end of HDD
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