T2 IRC Log: 2005-07-22

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--- Log opened Fri Jul 22 00:00:00 2005
00:01 < CIA-9> amery * r10484 /branches/nestedtargets/functions: * removed space support on get_reverted, the quotes confuse some other functions
00:04 < CIA-9> amery * r10485 /branches/nestedtargets/Build-Tools: * changed Build-Tools to detect wrapper.in and parse-config{,-9} from targetchain in backward order
00:06 < Veki> Shingo: What's up?
00:14 < CIA-9> chris * r10486 /branches/2.1/target/mnemosyne/config.in: * merged 10480: * fixed mnemosyne config to know where it's files are even if SDETARGET != mnemosyne
00:28 < CIA-9> amery * r10487 /trunk/package/mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.desc: * updated thunderbird (1.0.2 -> 1.0.6)
00:38 < Veki> morofh: are you awake
00:39 < Veki> mnemoc: are you here around?
00:41 < morfoh> I was on the gentoo channel already ... and now I know again why I hated IRC before ... sorry REdOG and other possible gentoo geeks ...
00:41 < _Ragnar_> O_O
00:42 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: you're there too ?
00:42 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: hi btw
00:43 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: How is it in SF ?
00:47 < Veki> morfoh: I emrge cdrtools and it built OK
00:47 < morfoh> Veki: good
00:47 < Veki> when I do cdrecord -scanbus it says that it cannot open /dev/pg SCSI driver, uhm, that i strange since it worked on exactlt the same machine in previous install of t2
00:48 < _Ragnar_> morfoh: SF? SD hier ;)
00:48 < Veki> as fars a sI know Cdrtools do not have any dependencies, maybe it is needed to put some message to kernel on SCSi suport or so?
00:48 < Veki> Ragbar: SD =San Diego?
00:48 < _Ragnar_> yepp
00:49 < Veki> uhm, Fuerno Caliente or California :-)
00:50 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: ah! ok SD, Lewyllin was from SF
00:50 < _Ragnar_> ;)
00:50 < Veki> I heard that SD is nice town :)
00:51 < _Ragnar_> it's ok
00:51 < Veki> hopw far is SD from SF
00:51 < _Ragnar_> 500 miles or so?
00:52 < Veki> uhm, that is a lot
00:52 < _Ragnar_> yea
00:52 < Veki> SD i smore south?
00:53 < _Ragnar_> yea
00:53 < Veki> Ihh, I am looking tathe map of SD now
00:54 < _Ragnar_> :)
00:54 < Veki> there is satellite image, I see someone typing on PC working on t2, it is you ?
00:54 < Veki> I am kidding, butt here is satelite image of very high resolution
00:55 < Veki> big park or golf playfiled or so
00:56 < Veki> big hospital ther, SD is big city
00:57 < _Ragnar_> *rofl*
00:57 < _Ragnar_> probably balboa park
00:58 < morfoh> ok folks ... good night
00:58 < Veki> ah, yes, in my country people say that if you do have hick ups that is sign that someone thinks on you. so you are probably doing hick ups now :)
00:58 < Veki> morfoh : good night
00:59 < morfoh> Veki: thanks, btw.... I think this "hick up" thing is quite international ;)
00:59 < morfoh> good night
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00:59 < _Ragnar_> =)
00:59 < Veki> OK, that i scool, one reason more for people to help each other and make them to hick up :)
01:01 < Veki> Ragnar: maybe you can help woth one thing. ACtually, I have installed cdrtools and it built OK, but whne I issue cdrecord -scanbus it says that it cannot open /dev/pg scsi driver. What may be issue ?
01:06 < _Ragnar_> devfs likely
01:08 < Veki> hm in dev directory there is /cdroms/cdrom0 and cdrom0 points to bus1,target0,lun0
01:08 < _Ragnar_> give it the device directly
01:09 < _Ragnar_> like cdrecord dev=/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/generic
01:11 < Veki> ok, I'll do it now
01:14 < Veki> you are great , it works
01:15 < Veki> should I do that always or there is shortcut
01:19 < Veki> as far as I see there is link /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 to /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd
01:21 < _Ragnar_> you can make a link ;)
01:23 < Veki> which command you use , is there any specific flag or so?
01:24 < Veki> hm, it says file exists with comand link
01:26 < _Ragnar_> put the ln -s into /etc/conf/devfs
01:29 < Veki> OK, there i slink for mouse but not for cdrom. should I put whole blok if... then...
01:31 < Veki> hm in /etc/conf kernel I uncommented part with kernel ide-scsi part
01:34 < Veki> I will be back in aminute
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01:40 < mnemoc> re
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02:04 < Veki> Ragnar: it is strange that link exists whre it i sneeded, but cdrecord is not going to use that link as long a sit i snot directly pinted to device as you sai
02:06 < mnemoc> cdrecord dev=/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 image.iso does work. warns but works
02:07 < _Ragnar_> Veki: yea dunno
02:10 < Veki> Ragnar: uhm, I can do always /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd but it should work in short because is the same :(
02:11 < Veki> mnemoc: I will try that also
02:12 < mnemoc> cdrecord screams a lot, but works anyway
02:12 < Veki> hm, yes, it screams, but it works, actually there i swarning on kernel usettled issues with 2.5 and onwards etc. etc
02:14 < mnemoc> he wants you to use solaris :)
02:15 < Veki> hm, one question, I write this for average users so I have to put myself in their shoes
02:15 < Veki> yes, or 2.4 kernel Lionux
02:16 < Veki> when t2 is freshly installed there are not any users except root. I am thinking on policy of users permissions when working with t2
02:16 < Veki> since administration is often task
02:16 < mnemoc> users on unix world are always loosers
02:16 < Veki> what is your experience. should users use root mostly? if they use useradd do you prefer any set up
02:17 < mnemoc> no, users should never use root
02:17 < mnemoc> useradd -m veki is enough
02:17 < Veki> mnemoc: yes, I know, root is th e most powerfull, but if user will build secure server he/she should be aware on security from th ebeginning
02:18 < Veki> ok, so useradd -m xyz I can put in manual
02:18 < mnemoc> xyz will su - when he wants to do administrative tasks
02:20 < Veki> ok, yes, I am trying to put it in concise and clear way so theuser may easily follow documentation. Beginners are somehow affraid of new ssytem so I have to be descriptive in explaining why something is recommended
02:21 < mnemoc> useradd -m joe; passwd joe
02:21 < Veki> even me , when I am working on several machines at once, I confuse users, passords etc.
02:22 < Veki> mnemoc: thanks. This may sound stupid but these are elementary things since pople have been damaged by Microsoft pathogene interface which puts forward visual instead of verbal cognition
02:25 < mnemoc> :)
02:25 < CIA-9> amery * r10488 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * merged 8543,9579,10269 from trunk: updated imagemagick (6.2.0-8 -> 6.2.3-4)
02:26 < Veki> mnemoc: :)
02:26 < Veki> I will be beack in a minute
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02:27 < CIA-9> amery * r10489 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/pixie/ (location.patch pixie.conf pixie.desc): * merged 9553,10253 from trunk: updated pixie (1.4.1 -> 1.4.4)
02:30 < CIA-9> amery * r10490 /branches/2.1/package/kde/kxdocker/kxdocker.desc: * merged 8598,9318,9818,10337 from trunk: updated kxdocker (0.29 -> 0.35)
02:31 < CIA-9> amery * r10491 /branches/2.1/package/kde/amarok/amarok.desc: * merged 9253 from trunk: updated amarok (1.2.3 -> 1.2.4)
02:34 < CIA-9> amery * r10492 /branches/2.1/package/mail/spamassassin/spamassassin.desc: * merged 8937 from trunk: updated spamassassin (3.0.2 -> 3.0.3)
02:35 < CIA-9> amery * r10493 /branches/2.1/package/mail/anomy-mailtools/anomy-mailtools.desc: * merged 9197 from trunk: updated anomy-mailtools (1.70 -> 1.71)
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02:46 < CIA-9> amery * r10494 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
02:46 < CIA-9> * merged 10248 from 2.1: marked a52dec for FPIC-QUIRK (needed by amd64)
02:46 < CIA-9> * merged 10249 from 2.1: marked gnupth for FPIC-QUIRK (needed by amd64)
02:46 < CIA-9> * merged 10250 from 2.1: fixed isakmpd to use the right libgmp.a (needed for 64bits archs)
02:56 < CIA-9> amery * r10495 /branches/2.1/package/mail/dcc/dcc.desc: * merged 9200 from trunk: updated dcc (1.2.69 -> 1.3.5)
02:59 < CIA-9> amery * r10496 /branches/2.1/package/mail/exim/ (exim.conf exim.desc): * merged 9187,9194,9986 from trunk: updated exim (4.44 -> 4.52) - exiscan-acl is now part of exim
03:01 < CIA-9> amery * r10497 /branches/2.1/package/mail/pine/pine.desc: * merged 9189 from trunk: updated pine (4.62 -> 4.63)
03:01 < CIA-9> amery * r10498 /branches/2.1/package/mail/maildrop/maildrop.desc: * merged 9166 from trunk: updated maildrop (1.8.0 -> 1.8.1)
03:03 < CIA-9> amery * r10499 /branches/2.1/package/mail/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
03:03 < CIA-9> * merged 9164 from trunk: updated courier-authlib (0.55 -> 0.56)
03:03 < CIA-9> * merged 9165 from trunk: updated courier-imap (4.0.2 -> 4.0.3)
03:10 < Veki> mnemoc: Minto added cdcd package, but when I try to Emerge it I was prompted thatthere i sno package scheduled to build
03:10 < mnemoc> we have two trees, trunk and 2.1. cdcd is on trunk, but not on 2.1
03:11 < mnemoc> you can file a package request on trac, or get a working copy of t2-trunk
03:12 < Veki> how can I get it from trunk
03:13 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk /usr/src/t2-trunk
03:13 < Veki> hm, so it will creat edirectory like that and I have to svn up from that directory and build it from there. Am I right
03:15 < mnemoc> yep
03:16 < mnemoc> or file a merge request on trunk, and i add it to 2.1
03:16 < Veki> AI have done trac
03:17 < Veki> is there any danger that I should mix up trunk and 2.1
03:17 < Veki> and make damage to the system
03:17 < mnemoc> some packages yes
03:19 < Veki> hm, so I will stick for now with cdcd. Anyway, I am svn co ... trunk
03:19 < mnemoc> you can copy cdcd from your trunk copy to your copy of 2.1
03:21 < Veki> you mean binary from /usr/bin
03:21 < Veki> ?
03:22 < Veki> or packages...
03:23 < mnemoc> package
03:23 < mnemoc> using svn cp
03:25 < Veki> ok
03:25 < Veki> I cmpleted svn co
03:26 < mnemoc> svn cp t2-trunk/package/multimedia/cdcd t2-stable/package/multimedia
03:26 < mnemoc> and then emerge on t2-stable tree
03:28 < Veki> ok, I will do that now
03:32 < Veki> OK, started, it works out :)
03:32 < mnemoc> :)
03:33 < Veki> I hope it will build well
03:35 < mnemoc> when real cdcd gets into 2.1 you will get a conflict
03:35 < mnemoc> you will have to revert the local add and remove the files
03:36 < Veki> OK, I will use this one until then :)
03:37 < mnemoc> :)
03:49 < Veki> I suppose there is script for that, or I should do that manually
03:50 < mnemoc> do what?
03:51 < Veki> delete old cdcd when the real one copmes to 2.1
03:55 < mnemoc> svn 'protects' your files
03:56 < Veki> OK, cdcd built OK and it works :)
03:56 < mnemoc> svn up will fail if the server wants to create a new file where you already have one
03:56 < Veki> ok, thanks
03:56 < mnemoc> yw
03:59 < Veki> It is 4AM here and I have to go to sleep a bit since I have to wake up at 8.30 :(
03:59 < Veki> cu
04:02 < mnemoc> is 8:30 early?
04:02 < mnemoc> ok ok... gn8 Veki :)
04:02 < CIA-9> amery * r10500 /branches/2.1/package/mail/bincimap/ (bincimap.desc errno.patch):
04:02 < CIA-9> * merged 9677 from trunk: updated bincimap (1.3.3 -> 1.3.4)
04:02 < CIA-9> * merged 10295 from trunk: fixed classic errno problem on lastest (1.3.4) bincimap
04:05 < CIA-9> amery * r10501 /branches/2.1/package/mail/bogofilter/bogofilter.desc: * merged 9201,9997 from trunk: updated bogofilter (0.94.6 -> 0.95.2)
04:12 < CIA-9> amery * r10502 /branches/2.1/package/mail/mailscanner/ (mailscanner.conf mailscanner.desc): * merged 9198,10252 from trunk: updated mailscanner (4.31.2-1 -> 4.44.3-1)
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07:35 < minto> moin
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07:56 < rxr_> re
07:56 -!- You're now known as rxr
08:00 < karasz> hi everybody
08:02 < karasz> or should I say "hi *" ? :)
08:03 < karasz> whow... new guys on the block!
08:06 [Users #t2]
08:06 [ _Lewellyn] [ dsoul ] [ keinek_] [ mnemoc] [ REdOG] [ SerWou ]
08:06 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw ] [ madtux ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ Shingo--]
08:06 [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz] [ minto ] [ nzg ] [ sepp_] [ valentin]
08:06 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal]
08:10 < karasz> looks like * is tired or looking for the weekend....
08:10 < rxr> no - just hit work and need a product CD finished today ...
08:13 < CIA-9> msluis * r10503 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.desc: * update libidn (0.5.17 -> 0.5.18)
08:14 < minto> Hi karasz, rxr
08:16 < rxr> moin minto
08:24 < madtux> hello
08:25 < madtux> minto, nice update howto... can i feel free to send back some input?
08:26 < CIA-9> rene * r10504 /trunk/package/gnome2/nautilus-cd-burner/nautilus-cd-burner.desc: * updated nautilus-cd-burner (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
08:26 < CIA-9> rene * r10505 /trunk/package/gnome2/libwnck/libwnck.desc: * updated libwnck (2.10.0 -> 2.10.2)
08:26 < CIA-9> rene * r10506 /trunk/package/gnome2/control-center/control-center.desc: * updated control-center (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
08:27 < CIA-9> rene * r10507 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-themes/gnome-themes.desc: * updated gnome-themes (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
08:27 < CIA-9> rene * r10508 /trunk/package/gnome2/gconf/gconf.desc: * updated gconf (2.10.0 -> 2.10.1)
08:27 < CIA-9> rene * r10509 /trunk/package/gnome2/xchat/xchat.desc: * updated xchat (2.4.3 -> 2.4.4)
08:27 < CIA-9> rene * r10510 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-keyring/gnome-keyring.desc: * updated gnome-keyring (0.4.2 -> 0.4.3)
08:27 < CIA-9> rene * r10511 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-desktop/gnome-desktop.desc: * updated gnome-desktop (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
08:27 < minto> madtux: please do :-)
08:27 < CIA-9> rene * r10512 /trunk/package/gnome2/metacity/metacity.desc: * updated metacity (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
08:27 < CIA-9> rene * r10513 /trunk/package/gnome2/zenity/zenity.desc: * updated zenity (2.10.0 -> 2.10.1)
08:28 < CIA-9> rene * r10514 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem/totem.desc: * updated totem (1.0.3 -> 1.0.4)
08:28 < CIA-9> rene * r10515 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomedb/libgnomedb.desc: * updated libgnomedb (1.3.3 -> 1.3.4)
08:28 < CIA-9> rene * r10516 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-panel/gnome-panel.desc: * updated gnome-panel (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
08:28 < CIA-9> rene * r10517 /trunk/package/gnome2/pybliographer/pybliographer.desc: * updated pybliographer (1.2.6 -> 1.2.6.2)
08:28 < CIA-9> rene * r10518 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomeui/libgnomeui.desc: * updated libgnomeui (2.10.0 -> 2.10.1)
08:28 < CIA-9> rene * r10519 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-menus/gnome-menus.desc: * updated gnome-menus (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
08:28 < CIA-9> rene * r10520 /trunk/package/gnome2/gthumb/gthumb.desc: * updated gthumb (2.6.5 -> 2.6.6)
08:28 < CIA-9> rene * r10521 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-games/gnome-games.desc: * updated gnome-games (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
08:28 < minto> rxr: seems like you got the fever now ;-)
08:28 < CIA-9> rene * r10522 /trunk/package/gnome2/evince/evince.desc: * updated evince (0.3.1 -> 0.3.2)
08:29 < CIA-9> rene * r10523 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnome/libgnome.desc: * updated libgnome (2.10.0 -> 2.10.1)
08:29 < CIA-9> rene * r10524 /trunk/package/gnome2/file-roller/file-roller.desc: * updated file-roller (2.10.3 -> 2.10.4)
08:29 < madtux> rxr, is burning
08:29 < minto> must be a result of the swiss air.
08:36 < CIA-9> msluis * r10525 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-150/ (mime-type-remove.diff postsysfiles.in):
08:36 < CIA-9> * sun-jre-150 uses the new mimetype support, registers jnlp for
08:36 < CIA-9> java webstart.
08:36 < CIA-9> * Added missing copyright headers.
08:38 < CIA-9> msluis * r10526 /trunk/package/java/sun-jdk-150/postsysfiles.in:
08:38 < CIA-9> * sun-jdk-150 uses the new mimetype support, registers jnlp for
08:38 < CIA-9> java webstart.
08:40 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png
08:40 < rxr> ...
08:41 < rxr> Webmin 1.220
08:41 < rxr> XOrg/XFree86 Synaptics TouchPad Driver 0.14.3
08:41 < rxr> updates anyone ?
08:42 < _Ragnar_> hey rxr
08:42 < rxr> bash programmable completion 20050721
08:42 < rxr> hi rxr
08:42 < rxr> hi _Ragnar_
08:43 < _Ragnar_> :)
08:44 < karasz> hi minto
08:44 < karasz> where can i find your HOW-TO ?
08:44 < karasz> or is it not public yet
08:44 < minto> I send it to the mailing list
08:45 < karasz> kul, I am not a member there...
08:45 < minto> I will post it on my web server, just a minute
08:46 < karasz> aplied for the miling list
08:47 < CIA-9> rene * r10527 /trunk/package/graphic/pdftk/ (pdftk.cache pdftk.desc): * flagged pdftk as NOPARALLEL and added the .cache
08:47 < minto> karasz: http://multimach.dyndns.org/t2/T2%20package%20update.pdf
08:51 < CIA-9> rene * r10528 /trunk/TODO: * one more TODO
08:53 < karasz> minto: i like it
08:53 < karasz> especialy the building part
08:53 < minto> :-)
08:53 < karasz> :D
08:54 < minto> It is still an early draft :-)
08:54 < karasz> but seriously i think that is well writenn
08:54 < minto> But I wanted some feedback before continuing.
08:54 < rxr> minto: do you know about misc/archive/{Update,Commit}.sh ?
08:54 < karasz> if I can understand it i guess everybody can
08:54 < minto> rxr: No, I will take a look.
08:56 < rxr> maybe proopose those (that use what you describe) and leave your text explaining what going on thereafter
08:59 < rxr> gst-plugins do not seem to build after the gstreamer update ...
08:59 < rxr> but it was not me ... and gstreamer is gnome stuff out of my scope - so ...
08:59 < karasz> minto: two questions if you can
09:00 < minto> go ahead karasz
09:01 < karasz> 1. supose somebody installs a t2 target built by someone else, how can he keep up with updates?
09:02 < karasz> 2. how abt multiversion apps in T2?
09:05 < minto> karasz, this document is intended to describe how to update t2 package descriptors only. However you questions are valid. Multiple versions of the same app requires multiple packaes currently. Some packages like this already exist (gnome14 and gnome2). The other question depends on the target I guess. If the full T2 toolchain is included EmergePkg could be used.
09:06 < karasz> i understood your docu and it's purpose, my questions are not related to it
09:07 < karasz> and the second one is about an user which does not have toolcain
09:07 < karasz> it uses T2 as a binary only distro
09:10 < minto> No, toolchain, then you are better of asking one of the T2 masters, since I simply do not know :-)
09:12 < CIA-9> rene * r10529 /trunk/package/graphic/pdftk/ (pdftk.cache pdftk.conf pdftk.desc):
09:12 < CIA-9> * added installation of the man-page to pdftk
09:12 < CIA-9> * lowercased the .desc text where appropriate (contained a lot
09:12 < CIA-9> capitals from the origignal web-site description ...)
09:12 < CIA-9> * updated the .cache file and injectd the copyright header
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09:13 < Veki> hi
09:17 < rxr> hi Veki
09:17 < minto> hi veki
09:18 < Veki> hi, I have one propblme, mybe little one
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09:18 < karasz> minto: hmmmm
09:18 < minto> hi morfoh :-)
09:18 < karasz> hi morfoh
09:18 < Veki> When I try to Buil target I am prompted that here is no any swap partition active due to paranoia checks
09:18 < Veki> hi morfoh
09:20 < Veki> But, swap partition is active during boot into runlevel 3.
09:21 < Veki> Is there anything in COnfig that may give that kind alarm?
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09:22 < karasz> minto: maybe I will be banished from this list but anyway
09:23 < karasz> I'll take my chanses
09:23 < karasz> :)
09:24 < karasz> if you/we are wanting to see T2 powered distros shouldn't be some way for a distro maintaner to update his distro?
09:24 < karasz> and the users of that distro to mantain their instalation without compiling ?
09:24 < Veki> guys, I have to go now, cu tonight
09:25 < karasz> or am I just wrong and stupid?
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09:25 < karasz> and I do not understand the purpose of meaning...
09:26 < karasz> minto: ping
09:26 < karasz> or maybe morfoh can sort us out?
09:28 * karasz looking around for another victim since minto is finished :)
09:30 < morfoh> .oO( if you want to see what's happening in the real world, you have to watch TV )o <-- citation of a collegue of me
09:30 < morfoh> hi all btw ...
09:30 < rxr> karasz: it is up to the vendor to provide updates
09:30 < rxr> such as binary diffs or firmware updates
09:30 < morfoh> moin rxr
09:30 < rxr> however implementing reference tools for this is on my TODO
09:30 < rxr> hi morfoh
09:30 < karasz> hi rxr
09:30 < morfoh> I like it, if the morning starts with such a discussion
09:31 * karasz is very upset so he chills out on #t2
09:32 < karasz> rxr: i understand that but i meant opensource security updates for example...
09:33 < _Ragnar_> rxr:
09:33 < _Ragnar_> dyn_start.c:42: internal compiler error: in named_section_flags, at varasm.c:394Please submit a full bug report,
09:33 < _Ragnar_> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
09:33 < _Ragnar_> cross compiling dietlibc from x86 to x86-64
09:34 < _Ragnar_> also diese kuenstliche dependency auf dietlibc nervt langsam ... bei jedem build haengts bei mir derzeit immer wieder daran :p
09:34 < CIA-9> rene * r10530 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/ (22 files in 13 dirs): * injected the remaining (untested) archivista target rootfs overlay
09:34 < rxr> _Ragnar_: this is a gcc bug
09:35 < _Ragnar_> other stuff isn't gcc related tho
09:35 < _Ragnar_> dietlibc fails with stackpro, too
09:35 < rxr> from the PR we noticed in their bugzilla it might be due to not defining some .eh_frame or so read-only
09:35 < rxr> _Ragnar_: X or other stuff fails with SSP, too
09:35 < _Ragnar_> and with 0.28:
09:35 < _Ragnar_> /export/t2-trunk/src.dietlibc.a64.20050721.165802.32464.fileserver/dietlibc-0.28/bin-x86_64/start.o(.text+0x15): In function `_start':
09:36 < _Ragnar_> x86_64/start.S: undefined reference to `_dyn_start'
09:36 < rxr> maybe just do not try SPP on diet
09:36 < rxr> _Ragnar_: have you properly reverted with all the patches we had readded?
09:36 < _Ragnar_> and then every package depending on it
09:36 < rxr> I think I fixed this (at least I did for PPC and SPARC ...
09:36 < rxr> )
09:37 < _Ragnar_> I did rm -rf package/base/dietlibc; svn up
09:38 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: SSP doesn't work on diet targets so far :/
09:38 < _Ragnar_> well I'm trying to build a glibc target ...
09:38 < _Ragnar_> and I'd like to have most packages with SSP
09:39 < _Ragnar_> if X doesn't build with it, so be it
09:39 < rxr> maybe X built - but at least it did not work with it ...
09:40 < _Ragnar_> I think it has problems loading the modules if it has SSP enabled
09:40 < rxr> and I suspect the SPP to miscompile the kernel with gcc update to 3.4.5 or what the latest was
09:40 < _Ragnar_> O_O
09:40 < rxr> I'll not try to use SPP until s.th. like that get's into the official GCC ...
09:40 < rxr> also the patch is only updated every now and then ...
09:40 < _Ragnar_> yea ok
09:41 < _Ragnar_> but the cross compile is without SSP
09:41 < rxr> try if gcc bugzilla has a answer for you
09:42 < rxr> there was a matching PR
09:42 < _Ragnar_> ouch
09:42 < CIA-9> sebastian * r10531 /trunk/package/network/webmin/webmin.desc: * updated webmin (1.210 -> 1.220)
09:42 < _Ragnar_> naja nich mehr heut, is schon fast 1
09:43 < _Ragnar_> also danke erstmal ;) bis morgen
09:43 < _Ragnar_> nini
09:43 < CIA-9> rene * r10532 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/fluxbox-menu: * fixed the archivista fluxbox menu to use firefox instead mozilla-suite
09:44 < rxr> I think after my holiday I'll open a t2-targets repository with such company add-on targets
09:44 < rxr> (that blow up trunk quite a bit ...)
09:45 < minto> _Ragnar_ I might have a patch somewhere.
09:45 * minto is looking
09:51 < minto> Ahh found it, but needs some testing tho
09:53 < minto> Without dietlibc fails in stage 1 (x86_64)
09:54 < minto> With dietlibc builds in stage 1, now lets check how 32 bits responds.
09:55 < minto> 32 bits stage 0 is fine
09:55 < mtr> hi
09:55 < minto> hi mtr
09:55 < mtr> moin minto
09:57 < minto> 32 bits stage 1 is fine too, ready to check in :-)
10:04 < CIA-9> rene * r10533 /trunk/target/archivista/ (archivista.xpm.gz build.sh menu.lst): * added preleminary archivista grub theme and added (untested) code to inject it
10:04 < morfoh> moin mtr
10:04 < morfoh> moin minto
10:04 < rxr> hi mtr
10:05 < minto> morfoh: Do still feel not well?
10:06 < mtr> a question about sed/bash: sed -e 's/.../.../' -e 's/.../' filexyz >> filexyz
10:07 < mtr> why the h*ll does it not work with uclibc ???
10:07 < mtr> moin rxr morfoh
10:08 < mtr> i know, the u means ugly ...
10:10 < CIA-9> msluis * r10534 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/eh_frame.patch: * fixed dietlibc related gcc crash for x86_64.
10:17 < minto> _Ragnar_: ^---- this one is for you :-)
10:20 < rxr> http://news.com.com/IBM+steps+into+open-source+Java+project/2100-7344_3-5798290.html
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10:23 < karasz> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY karasz
10:33 < minto> hmm, rxr taking interest in java?
10:33 < rxr> no - just posting news for you
10:33 < minto> :-)
10:56 < mipe> Running main build function 'build_this_package' ...
10:56 < mipe> Extracting Sablot-1.0.2.tar.bz2 (--use-compress-program=bzip2 -xf) ...
10:56 < mipe> Fixing ownership and permissions ...
10:56 < mipe> chown: symbol lookup error: /lib64/libnss_db.so.2: undefined symbol: db_create
10:56 < mipe> Due to previous errors, no 5-sablot.log file!
10:59 < mipe> hmm,i wonder why nssdb doesnt link in with libdb
11:00 < rxr> hey mipe
11:02 < mipe> hi rxr
11:04 < morfoh> mon mipe
11:04 < morfoh> moin
11:04 < mipe> hi morfoh
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11:09 < CIA-9> rene * r10535 /trunk/target/livecd/build_image.sh: * introduced a SDEDEBUG_NOREBUILD conditional to the livecd build_image.sh
11:09 < morfoh> rxr: good idea :)
11:09 < CIA-9> rene * r10536 /trunk/misc/target/functions.in:
11:09 < CIA-9> * corrected the patch case in the overlay code to only try to revert
11:09 < CIA-9> if the reverted patch would apply cleanly
11:10 < morfoh> rxr: btw, I tried the livecd build last week and it was quite successfull but I wasn't able to build an image so far.
11:11 < rxr> hm
11:11 < rxr> you know that you need to run Create-ISO on the resulting livecd buidl =?
11:11 < morfoh> rxr: I did ... but it didn't worked
11:12 < morfoh> first I figured out that some vital stuff for building the image was commented out
11:12 < morfoh> then I found the parts which I had to enable
11:12 < morfoh> then I ran out of disk space :)
11:13 < mipe> :)
11:13 < morfoh> then I tried Create-ISO but with no success as I said before
11:13 < CIA-9> rene * r10537 /trunk/target/archivista/ (menu.lst rootfs/etc/stone.d/mod_grub.sh):
11:13 < CIA-9> * added using the "t2" grub theme to the archivista mod_grub patch
11:13 < CIA-9> * reverted the archivista.xpm.gz change from the cd menu.lst, since
11:13 < CIA-9> I had to notice it is not that easy right now to embed the additional
11:13 < CIA-9> file - instead the t2.xpm.gz will be overwritten ...
11:13 < morfoh> mipe: yeah mipe ... laugh at me :)
11:15 < CIA-9> rene * r10538 /trunk/target/archivista/ (build.sh build_image.sh):
11:15 < CIA-9> * added injecting the archivista.xpm.gz as t2.xpm.gz
11:15 < CIA-9> * added utilization of the inject_hook hack to inject a lot of CVS
11:15 < CIA-9> code as well as a tar'ed mysql database to the archivist target
11:15 < CIA-9> (yes this is a bit dirty, but there is no real release of the code
11:15 < CIA-9> yet anyway and I got into holiday tomorrow and CD due today ...)
11:16 < CIA-9> rene * r10539 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/data/ (6 files in 6 dirs): * more, needed directories in the archivista rootfs
11:17 < CIA-9> rene * r10540 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/inittab: * fixed typo in archivista rootfs/etc/inittab patch
11:18 < CIA-9> rene * r10541 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/ (K45apache K70mysql S30mysql S55apache): * enabled apache and mysql for runlevel 5 in the archivista target
11:19 < rxr> with tetex reduced to eps2pdf the rootfs is 200MM
11:19 < mipe> hmm,open source java(harmony), i might even contribute some,that is if they end up coding it in java
11:19 < rxr> MB smaller *g* - even with the archivista CVS code and the mysql injected
11:28 < morfoh> rxr: 200MB isn't that bad :)
11:28 < rxr> yep - especially when otherwise utilized by tex crap where only a tiny eps2pdf perl script is needed
11:29 < morfoh> hehe :)
11:32 < morfoh> I've found a nice knoppix based security livecd wit about 50MB of size (X + flux included) -> http://www.insert.cd
11:32 < CIA-9> rene * r10542 /trunk/TODO: * more TODO I noticed doing the archivista target
11:47 < morfoh> rxr: what is the reason that we don't patch linux-header with fixes that are available ?
11:52 < rxr> that those fixes are often not affecting the headers anywayx
11:52 < rxr> ...
11:52 < rxr> if you have too much time you can patc hthe header as well ..
11:52 < rxr> but maybe first update hte header to the latest major is enough
11:52 < rxr> I think it is not updated to the latest linux major version
11:52 < rxr> maybe that even breaks stuff ... :-(
11:59 < CIA-9> rene * r10543 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/ (7 files in 5 dirs):
11:59 < CIA-9> * added missing -f's to ln -s invocations in the archivista rootfs
11:59 < CIA-9> overlay
12:01 < morfoh> rxr: ok ... I'll do it because i.e. grsec needs it. ok that is not a common user case but we should support it in a clean way
12:08 < CIA-9> rene * r10544 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/startup: * fixed archivista fluxbox/startup to lunch firefox, not absend mozilla
12:17 < CIA-9> rene * r10545 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh: * a few more (untested) bits for the archivista installer
12:21 < rxr> hm - me praying the cd is squashed before lunch
12:21 < rxr> so the iBook can burn the latest flavour then
12:21 < morfoh> rxr: good luck :)
12:27 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
12:32 < minto> hi, I am back again
12:33 < morfoh> hi and wb minto
12:33 < minto> :-)
12:36 < minto> morfoh: can you have a look why 2.1 reference stopped on linux24
12:36 < minto> http://multimack.dyndns.org/t2/2.1/regressions/reference-32/regressions.html
12:37 < morfoh> please give me 5min.
12:37 < minto> ack
12:50 < CIA-9> chris * r10546 /branches/2.1/package/base/fgetty/fgetty.desc: * merged 9268: * build fgetty after minit
12:56 < CIA-9> mtr * r10547 /trunk/package/mail/postfix/postfix.desc: * updated postfix (2.2.4 -> 2.2.5)
12:57 < CIA-9> mtr * r10548 /trunk/package/www/mozilla/mozilla.desc: * updated mozilla (1.7.8 -> 1.7.10)
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12:57 < CIA-9> mtr * r10549 /trunk/package/x11/synaptics/synaptics.desc: * updated synaptics (0.14.2 -> 0.14.3)
12:57 < CIA-9> mtr * r10550 /trunk/package/develop/gambas/gambas.desc: * updated gambas (1.0.7 -> 1.0.9)
12:58 < CIA-9> mtr * r10551 /trunk/package/kde/kmymoney/ (kmymoney.conf kmymoney.desc): * updated kmymoney (CVS-20050418 -> 0.7.4)
12:59 < CIA-9> mtr * r10552 /trunk/package/office/moneypenny/ (moneypenny.desc qt-stl-string.patch): * updated moneypenny (0.9-beta-r4 -> 1.0-rc1)
13:00 < morfoh> rxr: seems that linux24 has also some problems with "lazy" arch optimization
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13:01 < CIA-9> mtr * r10553 /trunk/package/multimedia/transcode/transcode.desc: * updated transcode (0.6.14 -> 1.0.0)
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13:52 < rxr> morfoh: ? lazy what
14:03 < minto> rxr: building without any optimization
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14:09 < morfoh> rxr: I mean ... if no optimization is set for the arch (generic) in Config
14:10 < minto> is it safe to update cairo (to 0.5.2), I noticed a cairo discussion lately.
14:19 -!- karasz [~chatzilla@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2
14:19 < karasz> msg NickServ IDENTIFY karasz
14:20 < karasz> i had to restart chatzilla
14:20 < karasz> but then again i guess nobody missed me
14:21 * karasz is waiting for denial O_O , nobody
14:21 * karasz :(
14:21 < morfoh> karasz: you should change your IRC passwd because you used the wrong syntax and it was shown here in the public
14:22 < morfoh> don't worry
14:22 < karasz> so somebody else is gonna use my Nick ?
14:23 * karasz is wondering o_O
14:23 < madtux> i am
14:23 < madtux> :P
14:23 < morfoh> hehe ... hi bad mike :)
14:23 < madtux> hey guys... how is going?
14:26 < karasz> from my poit of view somebody else using my nick is usefull for me
14:27 < karasz> maybe he will say something interesting or wise
14:27 < madtux> i could make u a famous cracker
14:27 < karasz> :)
14:27 < madtux> how about that?
14:27 < karasz> not cracker but hacker
14:27 < madtux> nah...
14:28 < madtux> to make a famous hacker i got my own nick..
14:28 < madtux> i need someone elses to make evil things
14:28 < madtux> :)
14:28 < morfoh> :)
14:32 < minto> madtux: get and alias
14:33 < madtux> its better to steals karasz' id... much more fun
14:33 < madtux> :P
14:33 < minto> :-)
14:33 * madtux hides
14:34 < minto> madtux: No point is hiding for me :-) morfoh knows why.
14:35 < madtux> :)
14:35 < madtux> alright
14:35 < CIA-9> chris * r10554 /branches/2.1/package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9: * merged 10298: * added remove_lib function
14:35 < morfoh> madtux: minto is quite dangerous ... so better watch your back
14:40 < morfoh> madtux: == 07/22/05 16:37:27 =[1]=> Finished building package grsecurity. <-- grsec on diet
14:40 < madtux> wah cool
14:41 < morfoh> :)
14:42 < CIA-9> msluis * r10555 /trunk/package/x11-ng/cairo/cairo.desc: * update cairo (0.5.0 -> 0.5.2)
14:44 < CIA-9> msluis * r10556 /trunk/package/network/xmule/xmule.desc: * update xmule (1.10.0b -> 1.10.1)
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15:08 < karasz> guys how is rc2 doing?
15:09 < karasz> I was thinking abt the discusion we had earlier
15:10 < karasz> about upgrading ones distro...
15:11 < karasz> and now that i think about it it doesn't seem so out of line
15:11 < karasz> i understand that T2 is somewhat sourcebased, but still i think it can be done
15:12 < karasz> and my guess is that you/we can use an EmergePckg style script to do that
15:13 < karasz> all it is needed is a versioning scheme and a place where build config/customizations are kept
15:14 < karasz> somebody stop me...
15:14 * karasz is waiting to be put in his place....
15:16 * karasz is still waiting
15:18 * karasz is afraid that he may be right, but anyway everything has a first :)
15:19 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.8] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
15:19 * karasz is checking his internet connection, maybe smth is wrong
15:20 * karasz hmmm, internet is fine so there is only one posibility
15:21 * karasz thinks that nobody boders with his stupid proposals :(
15:21 < madtux> u are suggesting to keep updates for each one os the releases we make?
15:22 < madtux> for each arch and subarch?
15:22 < madtux> your proposal makes kind of sence... but what differs us from any regular linux distro which have just a standard arch support lets say i586
15:23 < madtux> is that we give the flexibility to customize ur packages for ur own real box
15:23 < karasz> that is korect but i am thinking abt targets
15:23 < madtux> so imagine the nightmare it would be not just keep the same package update for all the different arch optimizations we have.. but also to be creating them..
15:24 < karasz> which in my opinion are package selections that make specialized distros
15:24 < karasz> madtux: you have a poit there
15:25 < madtux> it is indeed not a hard thing to enable such "feature"
15:25 < karasz> but you say that it is a hard thing to maintain the back part of such a feature
15:25 < madtux> the pain begins where we look for hd space to host different packages with their respective optimization and target
15:25 < karasz> yes?
15:26 < karasz> ihm, i understand
15:26 < karasz> ohhh, wait
15:26 * madtux waiting
15:26 < karasz> i guess that i didnt made myself clear
15:26 < madtux> ok try to re-explain urself
15:26 < madtux> :)
15:27 < karasz> all it is needed is a versioning scheme and a place where build config/customizations are kept
15:27 < madtux> then again keep in mind that i might not make a lot of sence i am just a simple mortal here.
15:27 < karasz> so that makes me what? :)
15:27 < karasz> ah yes i forgot i am a siple parrot here :D
15:28 < madtux> bah..
15:28 < karasz> anyway
15:28 < madtux> :P
15:28 < karasz> the place where build customizations are kept should be in all cases the computer where the distro is installed
15:28 < madtux> tell me more of what u have in mind
15:29 < madtux> mmm...
15:29 < karasz> so for example on one server let's sau www.t2-project.org the packages are kept in source form like now
15:30 < madtux> ...
15:30 < karasz> i am talking abt an inteligent bash let's say ./upgrade-essentials
15:31 < karasz> which will look on the client computer for packs, check them against the versions on www.t2-project.org
15:31 < karasz> download the source from there
15:31 < madtux> and build on the host machine
15:31 < karasz> and build them acordingly with build customizations that are kept in tyhe client machine
15:31 < karasz> yes
15:32 < madtux> ok... what about dependencies...
15:32 < karasz> i understand that the emerge script is working very similar
15:32 < karasz> dependencies are a must, users should know nothing abt dependencies
15:32 < madtux> what about the none essential packages that depend on those essential packages
15:33 * karasz mentaly renames ./upgrade-essentials to ./upgrade-distro
15:34 < madtux> there used to be a script called System-Update or something like that
15:34 < madtux> i think it was "eaten" by emerge..
15:34 < madtux> i hate it when i go away for so long
15:35 < karasz> emerge is a good thing
15:35 < karasz> maybe there is an option for emerge which does what i am talking abt
15:35 < karasz> and now i am trying to invent the wheel
15:36 < minto> madtux: don't go away for so long again :-)
15:36 < madtux> its not really my call...
15:37 < CIA-9> rene * r10557 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/sbin/init.d/system: * added mounting local file-systems to the archivista target
15:37 < madtux> yet again most people here does not have a clue of who i am ... besides madtux the guy that hangs around #t2 sometimes
15:37 < CIA-9> rene * r10558 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/stone.d/mod_grub.sh: * fixed typo in archivista stone.d/mod_grub.sh patch
15:37 < madtux> i see rene is still on fire
15:38 < CIA-9> rene * r10559 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/data/archivista/sane/: * added missing sane data directory to the archivista target
15:39 < minto> madtux: I recognize you from rock a long time ago (I was passive back then), but I don't know who you are.
15:39 < CIA-9> rene * r10560 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh:
15:39 < CIA-9> * further improvements for the archivista/install - use auto for
15:39 < CIA-9> the data partition and only initialize the data partition if
15:39 < CIA-9> reformat all was choosen
15:40 * karasz is cleaning his feathers and loos for a shoulder to sit on.....
15:40 < minto> karasz if you don't do caca you can use my shoulder
15:40 < madtux> http://www.rocklinux.org/gallery.html <- a bit of what i used to do is there
15:41 * minto is captain blackbeard
15:41 < madtux> just find the tux :)
15:41 < madtux> yar!
15:41 < madtux> :)
15:41 < karasz> minto: I am a civilised parrot
15:42 < madtux> :)
15:42 < karasz> :D
15:43 < karasz> madtux: lot of young people here...
15:43 < minto> karasz: captain blackbeard is not that young
15:44 < karasz> i didn't say *
15:44 < karasz> i sad lot..
15:44 < madtux> how old are u guys?
15:44 < minto> madtux: I already guessed you where a rock bigshot.
15:44 < madtux> bah
15:44 < minto> I was born in the summer of love 69
15:44 < madtux> thats cool
15:45 < minto> It was very cool, since it was actually the winter. I meant the year of the summer of love.
15:46 * karasz is 5 years younger....
15:46 < madtux> nice..
15:47 < madtux> so you guys are from cool asm and c school huh?
15:47 * karasz is hiding fast
15:47 < madtux> hehehe
15:47 * minto too
15:47 < madtux> or what do u guys do for a living?
15:47 < karasz> minto: your reasons may differ
15:48 < minto> wait a minute and I make my CV public.
15:49 < madtux> wife calls wait
15:50 < karasz> guys did you noticed that morfoh is very silent nowdays?
15:52 < karasz> since we are in the social pools department
15:53 < karasz> when did everybody saw it's first computer and what was it?
15:54 < minto> http://multimach.dyndns.org/minto/cv/cv.html
15:54 < minto> markup needs some improvement.
15:55 < minto> karasz: my first computer was sharp MZ-700.
15:55 < morfoh> madtux: http://www.rocklinux.org/gallery.html <--- never noticed that gallery :)
15:55 < minto> back in the 80's
15:55 < karasz> that was some time ago...
15:56 < morfoh> madtux: and master mnemoc_ is looking like a quite serious business man there ... never saw a picture from him :)
15:56 < karasz> mine was an aMIC back in 92
16:04 < madtux> morfoh, hehe
16:04 < madtux> minto, NICE cv
16:04 < minto> Thanks, got a job for me?
16:05 < minto> I am a contractor
16:05 < madtux> query
16:10 < karasz> got to "fly" now cu guys
16:10 < morfoh> cu karasz
16:11 * karasz is flapping his wings around leaving a trail of dust...
16:25 < minto> caption blackbeard is coughing due to all the dust.
16:32 < minto> grummel, r10449 does not work properly.
16:33 < minto> mnemoc_: r10449 needs some more attention before adding it to 2.1
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17:10 < CIA-9> chris * r10561 /trunk/package/network/mdyndns/ (. mdyndns.conf mdyndns.desc): * added mdyndns (0.2) a small dyndns.org only client
17:11 < minto> morfoh: using pentium mmx optimization breaks my ltrace fix (r10449) :-(
17:12 < morfoh> minto: hmmm :(
17:12 < mtr> minto: r10449 should only be appplied to x86_64, it does not work for x86; right?
17:12 < minto> the fix sets adds ARCH to makeopts
17:12 < morfoh> hi mtr
17:12 < minto> ARCH needs to be i386 but optimization makes it i586
17:13 < mtr> what do you think about setting ARCH only for 'uname -m' != $arch ?
17:13 < mtr> hi morfoh
17:13 < minto> mtr: Might be a good solution.
17:15 < mtr> possibly this will get it right for sparc or ppc, too
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17:18 * minto is having a pizza break
17:19 < morfoh> minto: good appetite :)
17:20 < minto> thanks morfoh
17:20 < morfoh> does anybody know how to force a package to build using dietlibc exclusively ?
17:21 < rxr> re
17:21 < morfoh> hi rxr
17:24 < CIA-9> chris * r10562 /trunk/package/network/mproxy/ (. mproxy.conf mproxy.desc):
17:24 < CIA-9> * added mproxy (0.3) a small non caching http/https proxy
17:24 < CIA-9> * Note: you'll _need_ dietlibc and libowfat for building it
17:25 < morfoh> rxr: how can I force a package to build using dietlibc exclusively ?
17:25 * rxr -ENOTIME
17:32 < morfoh> cu later
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17:36 < mnemoc_> moin
17:40 < CIA-9> rene * r10563 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/opt/apache/httpd.conf:
17:40 < CIA-9> * diabled SendFile in the archivista apache pre-configuration due to
17:40 < CIA-9> unionfs /issues/ in that area (took us over an hour to track down,
17:40 < CIA-9> ieek)
17:41 < rxr> moin mnemoc_
17:47 < mnemoc_> hi rxr
17:47 < mnemoc_> rxr: Cleanup doesn't like your dot files at rootfs
17:47 < rxr> .oO
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18:04 < mnemoc_> hi madtux
18:04 < mnemoc_> rxr: nested targets seems to be working ok
18:04 < mnemoc_> rxr: the only posible improvement is an option to hide output of parent target
18:05 < mnemoc_> rxr: on config
18:21 < CIA-9> rene * r10564 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/network.sh: * finalized archivista/network.sh (for now)
18:22 < CIA-9> rene * r10565 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/startup: * run the archivista network config on user login (fluxbox start)
18:22 < rxr> btw. I'm not guilty for those implementtaion decisions ...
18:22 < rxr> not that anyone would think I would implement that as sdtate-of the art
18:24 < CIA-9> rene * r10566 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/sudoers: * added archivista sudoers configuration for network.sh and install.sh
18:26 < mnemoc_> rxr: client has always the last word
18:26 < rxr> .oO(I would not use fluxbox for anything ... anyway)
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18:30 < morfoh> re hi
18:31 < madtux> hello mnemoc_
18:33 < minto> Would it be wise to map T2 arch ppc64 to ltrace supported archs ppc. (same for sparc)?
18:33 < CIA-9> rene * r10567 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/ (etc/sudoers home/archivista/.fluxbox/startup):
18:33 < CIA-9> * fixed archivista sudoers patch to actually apply
18:33 < CIA-9> * allow local connections to X for the backup script interaction and co
18:34 < rxr> minto: I do not know ltrace enough
18:35 < minto> I will look a bit deeper then
18:35 < rxr> so - hopefully final fs squashing
18:35 < rxr> final for before my holiday ... since such stuff tends to cry for updates and modifications ...
18:38 < mnemoc_> hi safe_mintoadd
18:39 < morfoh> hi nested_mnemoc :)
18:39 < rxr> #t2 - fun@live
18:40 < keinek_> hi
18:40 -!- keinek_ is now known as keinek
18:40 < karasz> brb
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18:41 < keinek> i was sleeping a lot, i wake up at 13:00 hs.
18:44 < minto> hi mnemoc and morfoh, I think you have have spent to much time behind a keyboard. You guys start to write rubbish :)
18:45 < morfoh> minto: what do you complains about ?
18:45 < minto> hi keinek
18:45 < keinek> hi minto
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18:46 < minto> morfoh: Who said I was complaining? I am just observing :-)
18:46 < rxr> OpenOffice.org 1.1.118 (Development)
18:46 < morfoh> minto: mr. police officer what are you observing ?
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18:48 < minto> hi safe_mintoadd
18:48 < minto> hi nested_mnemoc :)
18:48 < mnemoc_> :)
18:48 < rxr> "AMD roadmaps indicate the processors should debut early next year and will require a new 1207 pin socket."
18:49 < rxr> ^- what the h*ll - how many pins ?!
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18:49 < rxr> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/default.mspx
18:49 < minto> Any volenteers to count them?
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18:52 < rxr> ON24 kriegt US-Patent f? 1/4 r Playlisten in Mediaplayern
18:52 < rxr> ^- "ON24 gets US-Pat
18:52 < rxr> ^- "ON24 gets US-patent for play-lists in media-players" ...
18:52 < rxr> ?!?!?
18:53 < mnemoc_> pff
18:53 < minto> seems like ltrace is rubbish. Makefile indicates support for sparc64, but there is no arch dir for it.
18:53 < karasz> finaly I am back :) and with a proper enviroment
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19:03 < CIA-9> msluis * r10568 /trunk/package/base/ltrace/ltrace.conf: * T2 archs are mapped to ltrace naming convention.
19:03 < minto> ^--- this works in 2.1
19:04 < minto> This should also improve cross compilation (I think)
19:05 < minto> morfoh: What was that lazy optimization stuff again?
19:06 < morfoh> minto: I just used the term "lazy" because sepp was using it .... but I mean the generic optimization for x86 at least breaks some package builds
19:07 < minto> It was intended as a reminder, we wanted to discuss it didn't we?
19:07 < morfoh> yes
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19:09 < morfoh> so I guess the topic is open for discussion ...
19:09 < mnemoc_> i'll finish the already tested stuff, and i'll try openssl and ltrace changes....
19:09 < minto> hmm, have to bring my son to bed
19:10 < rxr> mnemoc_: hint release early release often ,-)
19:10 < minto> brb
19:10 < rxr> cu minto
19:11 < mnemoc_> rxr: i'll commit safe parts of this: http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/ .... openssl, ltrace and tag
19:11 < rxr> sound good
19:11 < rxr> mnemoc_: you need to release on your own - since I'll be off for two weeks
19:11 < rxr> you know where my scripts are ... ?
19:11 < mnemoc_> nope
19:11 < rxr> and jus use my last mail as draft ...
19:12 < mnemoc_> i forgot where your statistic scripts are
19:15 < minto> == 07/22/05 19:08:35 =[3]=> Finished building package automake.
19:15 < minto> Had to shut down noisy. It will continue tomorrow.
19:15 < mnemoc_> :(
19:15 < mnemoc_> my daugthers can sleep with noise :)
19:15 < morfoh> mnemoc_: hard training I guess :)
19:16 < mnemoc_> :)
19:16 < minto> Merlyn can too. During his afternoon nap I leave noisy turned on.
19:17 < morfoh> mnemoc_: I should call Amnesty Intl. to watch for your kids :p
19:17 < mnemoc_> pff
19:18 < minto> morfoh: better watch it or I'll send the gestappo to you.
19:19 * minto should start to learn reading.
19:20 < minto> morfoh: sorry, you defended me.
19:20 < mnemoc_> :)
19:21 < morfoh> minto: i'LL NEVER DEFEND THE POLICE!!!
19:21 < morfoh> hehe :)
19:22 < morfoh> even if they will to send the gestapo
19:22 < mnemoc_> i did the military service voluntier :p
19:22 < morfoh> oh! I forgot ... it has changed it's name
19:22 * mnemoc_ hides
19:22 * morfoh catches mnemoc_ and slaps him .... zack
19:22 < mnemoc_> outch :(
19:23 < rxr> a live with x, firefox, apache, mysql and co on a 1.5 Ghz Celeron inside qemu is no fun
19:23 < morfoh> I did civil services anyway
19:24 < morfoh> rxr: what do say about the optimization issue ?
19:24 < morfoh> or did I missed sth ?
19:24 < rxr> nothing
19:25 < morfoh> rxr: so I suggest you said nothing and I missed nothing
19:25 < rxr> ack
19:25 < morfoh> ok
19:26 < _Ragnar_> moin
19:26 < morfoh> moin Ragnar
19:28 < minto> hi _Ragnar_
19:29 < minto> _Ragnar_: your diet problem should be solved now.
19:32 < rxr> oh - man is it late ...
19:33 < _Ragnar_> O_O
19:35 < mnemoc_> rxr: livecd tests?
19:35 < mnemoc_> rxr: livecd tested?
19:38 < rxr> works "mostly"
19:38 < rxr> cu people
19:39 < mnemoc_> cu
19:39 < morfoh> cu rxr
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19:54 < CIA-9> rene * r10569 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh: * fixed the archivista/install for the case it is run from sudo
19:58 < minto> hehe, strange sentence. _Ragnar_ I meant dietlibc ofcourse.
19:59 < _Ragnar_> /export/t2-trunk/src.dietlibc.a64.20050722.104943.11052.fileserver/dietlibc-0.29/bin-x86_64/start.o(.text+0x15): In function `_start':
19:59 < _Ragnar_> x86_64/start.S: undefined reference to `_dyn_start'
20:00 < _Ragnar_> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
20:00 < _Ragnar_> that doesn't look fixed ;p
20:08 < mnemoc> can i do init=/bin/sh on grub? how?
20:08 < _Ragnar_> yes
20:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: I guess that way you wrote it
20:09 < _Ragnar_> when the grub menu appears, highlight your entry and press 'e'
20:09 < _Ragnar_> then go to the kernel line and press 'e' again ... append the init=
20:09 < _Ragnar_> then press b
20:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: did you mean manually ?
20:09 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: big ack ;)
20:10 < morfoh> .oO( seems that mnemoc will switch from lilo to grub )o
20:10 < mnemoc> thanks, i just pasted your mini-howto to the bother-er on msn :p
20:10 < mnemoc> i'm loyal to lilo :)
20:11 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
20:11 < morfoh> haha :D
20:12 < mnemoc> there is a word for 'bother-er'?
20:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: what are you doing on msn ? :)
20:12 < mnemoc> bitlbee :)
20:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: bitlbee ?
20:12 < mnemoc> IRC 2 IM gateway
20:12 < morfoh> ah! :)
20:13 < mnemoc> do you imagine me with a crappy program with lots of pop-ups?
20:13 < morfoh> mnemoc: if you asked that way ... hmmmm 'yes' :)
20:13 < _Ragnar_> *rofl*
20:13 < mnemoc> :'(
20:14 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: now the poor mnemoc is crying ... what can we do to lighten up his life ? :)
20:15 < mnemoc> i'll forward the mail you sent me from hotmail to T2ML!
20:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: didn't know that I've a hotmail account ...
20:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: but perhaps it was a self-send from your hotmail account ... ? :)
20:21 < minto> _Ragnar_: that does not seem be the same problem. Before gcc crashed.
20:24 < minto> 09:33 < _Ragnar_> dyn_start.c:42: internal compiler error: in named_section_flags, at varasm.c:394Please submit a full bug report,
20:24 < mnemoc> morfoh: :)
20:27 < _Ragnar_> minto: yea but that was the error when I used dietlibc 0.28
20:29 < minto> Strange, I had the compiler crash before on 0.29 and now it builds. I will check again tomorrow, just to make sure.
20:30 < _Ragnar_> this is a different error 4 sure
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20:32 < minto> grummel, stupid firefox
20:36 < minto> new rivatv 0.8.6
20:37 < minto> I think I'll give that a try, my linux26 fails with the old on.
20:37 < minto> on = one
20:38 < keinek> hey guy, can add to the project a new target?
20:38 < keinek> i was use that target a lot of time.
20:39 < keinek> y based on desktop target.
20:39 < morfoh> what target ?
20:39 < morfoh> hi btw, mr. gaming
20:39 < morfoh> :)
20:39 < keinek> but this one, the iso is only one, 1 iso.
20:39 < keinek> the target have, kde, emulators, and multimedia.
20:39 < keinek> Red-Handed Target :)
20:40 < mnemoc> :)
20:40 < keinek> i know that a target is something very important.
20:40 < keinek> but this work fine, and is a way to new users can download the iso in one cd.
20:40 < keinek> If someone have a ftp, i can uplado the complete iso.
20:41 < keinek> mnemoc, i try to give a chance to people that just start in t2.
20:41 < morfoh> keinek: :)
20:41 < keinek> I think that is very important have a T2 for Build a t2.
20:42 < morfoh> keinek: seems that the teacher education was successful in the case of keinek .)
20:42 < mnemoc> keinek: red-handed _has_ and ftp
20:42 < keinek> yes mnemoc but... madtux can support 700 megas for the iso?
20:42 < mnemoc> ask him
20:43 < keinek> hi mike you just say "yes"
20:43 < keinek> :P
20:43 < keinek> mnemoc what about the target
20:43 < keinek> ?
20:43 < keinek> can i send you for aprove?
20:44 < keinek> just two packet dont compile sometimes, but theres no important, the target work fine.
20:44 < keinek> Only need 1 giga of sources for build.
20:45 < mnemoc> send it to the list asking for inclusion on t2, and for a write account over it
20:45 < morfoh> keinek I could give you ftp acces to my server to upload the iso if mnemoc connection is sucking
20:45 < keinek> great!
20:45 < keinek> thanks morfoh
20:45 < keinek> now i will build a iso for PENTIUM - MMX right?
20:45 < keinek> is that the default for the ISOS dont you?
20:46 < morfoh> keinek: I mean ... follow mnemoc advice for submitting your patch including the target stuff to the ML
20:46 < keinek> ok
20:48 < keinek> mnemoc i dont need a write account over it :)
20:48 < keinek> i just send the patch :)
20:49 < mnemoc> if you have a target, you need to maintain it
20:49 < keinek> ok
20:50 < keinek> another question.
20:50 < keinek> you tell me that i can request a package for the stable.
20:50 < keinek> now i need stella in the stable.
20:50 < keinek> how do that?
20:52 < mnemoc> do a package request
20:52 < mnemoc> on trac
20:52 < keinek> what is "on trac" and where is "on trac"? :P
20:54 < mnemoc> trac.t2-project.org
20:55 < keinek> thanks mnemoc
20:57 < mnemoc> yw
21:04 < karasz> yuhuuuwhou!!!!
21:04 < keinek> how say "desprolijo" in english mnemoc ?
21:05 < mnemoc> "you are welcomed"
21:05 < mnemoc> that word doesn't exist :)
21:05 < keinek> :)
21:05 < madtux> mnemoc, ... keinek are u guys still here?
21:05 < madtux> 700mb ?
21:05 < keinek> yes madtux
21:05 < keinek> hahaha
21:05 < keinek> is just a idea.
21:05 < madtux> go for it.
21:06 < keinek> Ok
21:06 < keinek> YIIIIIIIIIPY
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21:06 < madtux> thanks for asking first
21:06 < mnemoc> keinek is publishing his distribution :)
21:06 < keinek> Pentium Mmx is the better option for the people of internet right?
21:06 < madtux> keinek, are u happy with the connectivy on that box or do u want to move a box on a faster connection
21:06 < madtux> ?
21:08 < madtux> pmmx should the standard optimization yes
21:08 < madtux> unless master mnemoc want to arguee with a pathetic mortal like me
21:08 < keinek> :)
21:08 < keinek> madtux i use athlon Xp optimization.
21:09 < madtux> thats usable for u...
21:09 < madtux> for public releases its better to have something that will run on any box
21:09 < keinek> more people will use t2. thanks madtux. Red-Handed target is the best way to catch new people.
21:09 < keinek> ;)
21:09 < mnemoc> keinek: if you will only support one optimization, choose pmmx
21:10 < keinek> ok i will start with that optimization.
21:13 < keinek> ok, i send the patch.
21:14 < keinek> mnemoc, espero que me disculpen la desprolijidad, pero funciona bien.
21:14 < keinek> this target is working in progress.
21:14 < keinek> ;)
21:15 < mnemoc> keinek: nothing gets born mature
21:16 < keinek> :)
21:16 < madtux> great stuff keinek keep up the good work
21:16 < keinek> thanks madtux
21:17 < keinek> and... madtux, The new Red-Handed Radio is ready.
21:17 < keinek> yesterday i publish it.
21:17 < madtux> and if i can help you in any other way just tell me and i will try
21:17 < keinek> Is better that red-handed 2.
21:17 < keinek> ;)
21:17 < madtux> downloading..
21:17 < keinek> thank you madtux
21:19 < madtux> mm... the box is responding fine... i get 120K/s downloading..
21:20 < keinek> guau!
21:27 * karasz is dancing in the dark
21:27 < _Ragnar_> :D
21:28 * karasz is shouting yuhuyuhuyuhulalalala
21:28 < keinek> Mmmm.
21:29 * keinek is jumping in the bed and listen "i want to be free" by queen
21:29 < keinek> :D
21:29 < mnemoc> uhm
21:29 * karasz is free now...
21:29 < keinek> mnemoc, you want join us?
21:29 * karasz after all those years, finally
21:30 < mnemoc> no thanks
21:30 < karasz> :)
21:30 < mnemoc> :)
21:30 < karasz> figured that ...
21:30 < keinek> :P
21:30 < mnemoc> i'm happy following the restrictions of my life :)
21:31 < karasz> parrots are allowed to dance in the dark, but masters....
21:31 < _Ragnar_> O_O
21:31 < madtux> freaks..
21:31 * _Ragnar_ wonders what's going on here
21:31 < keinek> come mike! you can dance with us.
21:32 < madtux> i am NOT dancing queen
21:32 < madtux> :)
21:33 < mnemoc> madtux: look at www.red-handed.com.ar, he is.
21:33 < keinek> oh my god, i dont say "dancing queen", but figured that, dancing queen nude in the streets. Thats crazy.
21:33 < keinek> yes a old photo :)
21:34 < mnemoc> little leonel suffered many sad things when he was a kid, we can't blame him
21:34 < keinek> hey!
21:34 < keinek> :D
21:35 < mnemoc> ok, _i_ don't blame you, then can do it :)
21:36 < madtux> to me u are both as equally crazy ... just each have his own way to express it
21:37 < madtux> so beware... cause the parrot may eat ya
21:37 < madtux> ;-)
21:37 < keinek> hey madtux what about geekpreview
21:37 < keinek> is a vaporware?
21:38 < madtux> u do realize that the term vapoware does not apply in anyway to it right?
21:38 < madtux> :)
21:38 < keinek> i dont know ...
21:38 < keinek> :)
21:39 < keinek> mnemoc, talk about vaporware a lots of times.
21:39 < madtux> its a sleeping project just waiting for you, mnemoc and me to stop "boludeando" and get something done
21:39 < keinek> jajaja stop "boludeando"
21:39 < madtux> ok i need to leave for a bit.. cya later
21:39 < keinek> in english be something like "ballboying"
21:40 < madtux> it doesn't sound as cool... so fsck it.
21:40 < madtux> ;-)
21:40 < keinek> cya later madtux bye bye
21:47 < karasz> cu madtux
21:48 < karasz> and madtux parrots do not eat people
21:48 < karasz> at least where this parrot come from :)
21:50 < _Ragnar_> O_O
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22:20 * minto wonders if he is still on the right channel
22:21 < mnemoc> which is the 'right channel' for you?
22:21 * karasz wonders too :)
22:21 < minto> #t2
22:21 < mnemoc> yes, you are at #t2
22:21 < morfoh> :)
22:21 < minto> Then there must have been some galatic interference
22:21 < morfoh> uuuuuhhhh :)
22:22 < morfoh> minto: but "Scotty" died these days
22:22 < morfoh> perhaps the beamer isn't working anymore
22:22 < minto> When I read the mail I read all kind of strange stuff. Nude dancing queens??????
22:22 < minto> mail = irc
22:23 < morfoh> minto: I guess it was a different channel ;)
22:24 < minto> chatzilla can't be trusted
22:24 < minto> I better look for a different irc client
22:25 < karasz> try Konversation... :D
22:26 -!- rxr [rene@e178159116.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:26 < karasz> as allways if strange and not propper things happen on #t2 karasz is to blame
22:26 < karasz> :(
22:28 < minto> Who said it was not proper?
22:29 < minto> I am off now, watching my own dancing queen ;-)
22:29 < minto> gn8 all
22:29 < karasz> nude dancing on a linux development list?
22:29 < karasz> and by the way where did nude came from?
22:30 < minto> oh my god, i dont say "dancing queen", but figured that, dancing queen _nude_ in the streets. Thats crazy.
22:30 < minto> cu all
22:30 < mnemoc> cu minto :)
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22:33 < morfoh> oh! minto is gone ...
22:33 < mnemoc> homofobic :/
22:35 < mnemoc> extends and preconfig.in should be enough
22:47 < karasz> wow...
22:48 < mnemoc> wow?
22:48 < karasz> i didn't thought that he is that sensible...
22:48 < karasz> i hope that he is not upset now
22:48 < karasz> we were just kidding right keinek?
22:48 < mnemoc> of course we were kidding
22:48 < karasz> fooling around n stuff
22:49 < sepp> omg i thought make is crap - now i know scons
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23:01 < CIA-9> sebastian * r10570 /trunk/package/games/nexuiz/ (cd_linux.patch nexuiz.conf nexuiz.desc): * updated nexuiz (1.0.0 -> 1.1)
23:22 < CIA-9> chris * r10571 /trunk/package/network/mtcps/ (. mtcps.conf mtcps.desc no_manpage.patch):
23:22 < CIA-9> * added mtcps (0.2) a small inetd replacement
23:22 < CIA-9> * Note: to build mtcps you'll _need_ dietlibc and libowfat
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