--- Log opened Thu Jul 21 00:00:00 2005
00:06 < veki> OK, done, I think, part of configuration of GRUB or Lilo should be more precise for average user
00:12 < mnemoc_> rehi
00:13 < morfoh> hey ... wb mnemoc_
00:13 < morfoh> veki: ack
00:14 < veki> ok, I am building generic target now. BUt, few questios, since this is clean install. I cannot find svn there
00:14 < veki> is svn installed by default or it should be added later on
00:14 < morfoh> veki: it depends on the target
00:14 < veki> hi mnemoc
00:15 < veki> I would like to have it on my freshly installed t2 machine
00:20 < morfoh> Emerge subversion
00:21 < veki> aarrrrghh, I put Emerge svn, crazy me!!
00:27 < veki> during the configuration of network it i sreported that result i swrong with :( although it i scorrect. That can confuse someone
00:40 < mnemoc_> that's documentation for :)
00:45 < veki> mnemoc: OK, no problem, I will take care on that :-)
01:04 < veki> when I am downloading from th emirror I am prompted that there is 404 error and that curl returns error 22. Original URL works fine
01:09 < mnemoc_> that is common when (1) the package was reciently updated (2) the mirror is outdated
01:09 < mnemoc_> if original location also fails you found a problem
01:17 < veki> hm, ok, my exdperience ethat always thefirst thing to do is svn up and after that the rest of th ethings may be done. Am I right?
01:17 < veki> btw, mnemoc, did you receive my Linux audio packages overview
01:17 < mnemoc_> yes
01:17 < mnemoc_> i haven't read it yet, but i'll do
01:17 < veki> mnemoc: please feel free to send me your comments
01:18 < mnemoc_> :)
01:19 < veki> :-)
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01:26 < veki> mnemoc: wxpython aborted since ./scripts/functions: line 793: python command not found
01:27 < mnemoc_> wxpython needs python
01:27 < mnemoc_> grep python config/foo/packages
01:27 < veki> uhm, I suppose that has happened since python aborted, but it aborted
01:28 < veki> due to error in modules readline
01:28 < mnemoc_> if it fail, it's natural for it's dependees to fail
01:28 < veki> so readline is needed also before python
01:28 < veki> ?
01:29 < mnemoc_> priorities are ok
01:29 < mnemoc_> you don't need to change anything on .desc files
01:29 < mnemoc_> just on your pkgsel
01:29 < veki> ok
01:29 < veki> hm it was consequence of Emerge Pkg subversion
01:30 < mnemoc_> Emerge has one level of dependencies resolution
01:30 < mnemoc_> Emerge-Pkg -deps=none apr apr-utils subversion is enough
01:30 < veki> ok, this is very important to know
01:31 < mnemoc_> imo Emerge-Pkg is harmfull
01:31 < veki> hm, so what you propose
01:31 < mnemoc_> for subverison, -deps=none
01:31 < mnemoc_> or add it to your target
01:32 < veki> should I cleanup the rest of packages?
01:32 < mnemoc_> no need
01:32 < veki> ok
01:32 < mnemoc_> but if you want to keep your room clean, do it
01:33 < veki> yes, it is idea to keep it clean
01:33 < mnemoc_> i sent a mail about Emerge-Pkg but i haven't get reply yet
01:33 < veki> ./scripts/Cleanup -cache
01:33 < mnemoc_> (only one about .gem distribution)
01:33 < mnemoc_> no no
01:33 < veki> maybe they do nt like your mail :)
01:33 < mnemoc_> ccache is your friend
01:33 < mnemoc_> don't delete it
01:34 < veki> ok
01:35 < mnemoc_> ./scripts/Cleanup and ./scripts/Cleanup -download
01:35 < CIA-9> amery * r10381 /branches/2.1/package/base/ (device-mapper/device-mapper.desc lvm2/lvm2.desc):
01:35 < CIA-9> * merged 9158,9685 from trunk: updated device-mapper (1.01.00 -> 1.01.03)
01:35 < CIA-9> * merged 9160,9785,10215 from trunk: updated lvm2 (2.01.04 -> 2.01.13)
01:37 < veki> should I specify download directory when using Cleanup download
01:37 < CIA-9> amery * r10382 /branches/2.1/package/base/hddtemp/hddtemp.desc: * merged 9193 from trunk: updated hddtemp (0.3-beta12 -> 0.3-beta13)
01:37 < mnemoc_> nope
01:37 < mnemoc_> your download directory is always download/
01:38 < veki> ok, so it i sby default
01:38 < mnemoc_> Cleanup -download removes only obsolete files
01:38 < mnemoc_> it's not default, it's hardcoded :)
01:38 < veki> :)
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01:44 < veki> hi karasz
01:44 < CIA-9> amery * r10383 /branches/2.1/package/base/syslog-ng/head_n.patch: * merged 9274 from trunk: fixed syslog-ng to do `head -n` on configure scripts
01:46 < CIA-9> amery * r10384 /branches/2.1/package/cad/pcb/pcb.desc: * merged 9183 from trunk: updated pcb (20050127 -> 20050315)
01:47 < CIA-9> amery * r10385 /branches/2.1/package/contrib/lesspipe/lesspipe.desc: * merged 9498 from trunk: updated lesspipe (1.44 -> 1.51)
01:48 < CIA-9> amery * r10386 /branches/2.1/package/contrib/vidix/vidix.desc: * merged 9239 from trunk: updated vidix (0.9.9 -> 0.9.9.1)
01:57 < CIA-9> amery * r10387 /branches/2.1/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc: * merged 9385 from trunk: updated mysql (4.1.10a -> 4.1.12)
01:58 < CIA-9> amery * r10388 /branches/2.1/package/database/postgresql/postgresql.desc: * merged 9979 from trunk: updated postgresql (8.0.2 -> 8.0.3)
02:02 < CIA-9> amery * r10389 /branches/2.1/package/database/metakit/metakit.desc: * merged 9806 from trunk: updated metakit (2.4.9.3 -> 2.4.9.4)
02:13 < veki> mnemoc: I have to go to sleep is 2 AM here. cu tomorrow
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02:49 < CIA-9> amery * r10390 /branches/2.1/package/develop/diffstat/diffstat.desc: * merged 8551 from trunk: updated diffstat (1.38 -> 1.39)
02:52 < CIA-9> amery * r10391 /branches/2.1/package/develop/valgrind/ (valgrind.conf valgrind.desc):
02:52 < CIA-9> * merged 9222 from trunk: updated valgrind (2.2.0 -> 2.4.0)
02:52 < CIA-9> * merged 9224,9225 from trunk: simplified valgrind srctar overwrite and fixed to build for ppc
02:55 < CIA-9> amery * r10392 /branches/2.1/package/develop/doxygen/doxygen.desc: * merged 9217 from trunk: updated doxygen (1.4.2 -> 1.4.3)
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03:19 < CIA-9> amery * r10395 /branches/2.1/package/develop/hdf5/hdf5.desc: * merged 9226 from trunk: updated hdf5 (1.6.3 -> 1.6.4)
03:19 < CIA-9> amery * r10394 /branches/2.1/package/develop/oprofile/ (oprofile.conf oprofile.desc): * merged 9288 from trunk: * updated oprofile (0.8.2 -> 0.9)
03:19 < CIA-9> amery * r10393 /branches/2.1/package/develop/commonc++/commonc++.desc: * merged 9388,9619 from trunk: updated commonc++ (1.3.7 -> 1.3.11)
03:20 < CIA-9> amery * r10396 /branches/2.1/package/develop/libevent/libevent.desc: * merged 10049 from trunk: updated libevent (1.0c -> 1.0e)
03:29 < CIA-9> amery * r10397 /branches/2.1/package/develop/tla/tla.desc: * merged 9445 from trunk: updated tla (1.3.1-fix-1 -> 1.3.3)
03:32 < CIA-9> amery * r10398 /branches/2.1/package/develop/cheetah/cheetah.desc: * merged 9431 from trunk: updated cheetah (0.9.16 -> 0.9.17)
03:35 < CIA-9> amery * r10399 /branches/2.1/package/develop/docutils/docutils.desc: * merged 9499,9810 from trunk: updated docutils (0.3.7 -> 0.3.9) - .desc cleaned
03:42 < CIA-9> amery * r10400 /branches/2.1/package/develop/ddd/ddd.desc: * merged 9504 from trunk: updated ddd (3.3.10 -> 3.3.11)
04:34 < CIA-9> amery * r10401 /branches/2.1/package/editors/joe/joe.desc: * merged 9684 from trunk: updated joe (3.1 -> 3.3)
04:36 < CIA-9> amery * r10402 /branches/2.1/package/editors/yudit/yudit.desc: * merged 9508 from trunk: updated yudit (2.7.6 -> 2.7.8)
04:37 < CIA-9> amery * r10403 /branches/2.1/package/editors/tea/tea.desc: * merged 9447 from trunk: updated tea (9.0 -> 10.0)
04:39 < CIA-9> amery * r10404 /branches/2.1/package/develop/mono/mono.desc: * merged 10233 from trunk: updated mono (1.1.6 -> 1.1.8.2)
04:42 < CIA-9> amery * r10405 /branches/2.1/package/develop/ (mod_mono/mod_mono.desc mono-xsp/mono-xsp.desc):
04:42 < CIA-9> * merged 10234 from trunk: updated mono-xsp (1.0.6 -> 1.0.9)
04:42 < CIA-9> * merged 10235 from trunk: updated mod_mono (1.0.6 -> 1.0.9)
04:47 < CIA-9> amery * r10406 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: * merged 9724 from trunk: updated gtk+ (2.6.7 -> 2.6.8)
05:11 < CIA-9> amery * r10407 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
05:11 < CIA-9> * merged 10236 from trunk: updated gtk-sharp (1.0.8 -> 1.0.10)
05:11 < CIA-9> * merged 10238 from trunk: updated gtk-sharp2 (1.9.3 -> 1.9.5)
05:11 < CIA-9> * merged 10239 from trunk: updated gtkmozembed-sharp (0.8-r43708 -> 0.10)
05:11 < CIA-9> * merged 10240,10301 from trunk: updated gtksourceview-sharp (0.7 -> 0.10)
05:16 < CIA-9> amery * r10408 /branches/2.1/package/develop/mono-doc/mono-doc.desc: * merged 10237 from trunk: updated mono-doc (1.0.6 -> 1.0.7)
05:17 < CIA-9> amery * r10409 /branches/2.1/package/develop/mono-develop/mono-develop.desc: * merged 10241 from trunk: updated mono-develop (0.6 -> 0.7)
05:33 < CIA-9> amery * r10410 /branches/2.1/package/xfce4/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
05:33 < CIA-9> * merged 9681 from trunk: updated xfce4-netload-plugin (0.3.1 -> 0.3.2)
05:33 < CIA-9> * merged 9682 from trunk: updated xfce4-panelmenu (0.2.2 -> 0.3.1)
05:33 < CIA-9> * merged 9683 from trunk: updated xfce4-weather-plugin (0.4.1 -> 0.4.9)
05:45 < CIA-9> amery * r10411 /branches/2.1/target/embedded/config.in:
05:45 < CIA-9> * merged 9322 from trunk: added gmp package to embedded package selection
05:45 < CIA-9> * merged 9696 from trunk: fixed the embedded target to set the STATIC config option when dietlibc is in use - fixes ncurses
05:45 < CIA-9> * merged 9703 from trunk: changed embedded target to build perl only for uclibc
05:45 < CIA-9> * merged 9718 from trunk: added openssl to embedded/uclibc package selection
05:46 < CIA-9> * merged 10134 from trunk: changed libpng to embedded/uclibc package selection
05:46 < CIA-9> * merged 10213 from trunk: added vlan to embedded package selection
05:58 < mnemoc> sepp: on 7424 mtr moved hte from stage 2 to stage 3, i don't know why it was on stage 3 but i do for stage 2. the answer is simple, i needed to get it cross-compiled to test uclibc when we were unable to enter chroot
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06:18 < CIA-9> amery * r10412 /branches/2.1/package/emulators/bochs/ (bochs.desc gcc34.patch): * merged 9433,10074 from trunk: updated bochs (2.1.1 -> 2.2.1)
06:34 < CIA-9> amery * r10413 /branches/2.1/package/develop/hte/hte.desc:
06:34 < CIA-9> * merged 9558,10257 from trunk: updated hte (0.8.0 -> 0.9.1)
06:34 < CIA-9> * merged 10258 from trunk: changed hte to not build on stage 3 - it was moved by mistake on r7424 from 2 to 3
06:41 < CIA-9> amery * r10414 /branches/2.1/package/emulators/xmame/xmame.desc: * merged 9719 from trunk: updated xmame (0.96 -> 0.97)
07:04 < CIA-9> amery * r10415 /branches/2.1/package/filesystem/sysfsutils/sysfsutils.desc: * merged 9453 from trunk: updated sysfsutils (1.2.0 -> 1.3.0)
07:05 < CIA-9> amery * r10416 /branches/2.1/package/filesystem/dosfstools/dosfstools.desc: * merged 9581 from trunk: updated dosfstools (2.10 -> 2.11)
07:07 < CIA-9> amery * r10417 /branches/2.1/package/filesystem/coda/coda.desc: * merged 9420,9654 from trunk: updated coda (6.0.8 -> 6.0.11)
07:10 < CIA-9> amery * r10418 /branches/2.1/package/games/crimson/crimson.desc: * merged 9731 from trunk: updated crimson (0.4.6 -> 0.4.8)
07:12 < CIA-9> amery * r10419 /branches/2.1/package/games/freeciv/freeciv.desc: * merged 8542 from trunk: updated freeciv (2.0.0 -> 2.0.1)
07:13 < CIA-9> amery * r10420 /branches/2.1/package/games/asc/asc.desc: * merged 9451 from trunk: updated asc (1.15.2.1 -> 1.15.3.0)
07:17 < CIA-9> amery * r10421 /trunk/package/graphic/skencil/skencil.desc: * updated skencil (0.6.16 -> 0.6.17)
07:19 < CIA-9> amery * r10422 /trunk/package/graphic/skencil/skencil.desc: * changed skencil from Beta to Stable, as their site claims.
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08:00 < mnemoc> moin mika__
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08:01 < mipe> hi mnemoc
08:02 < Shingo--> Hi, I'm try to start using T2 to build one system, but I get some error to download some files.
08:02 < Shingo--> how can I proceed?
08:02 < mnemoc> what version of T2?
08:02 < Shingo--> I'm get from svn. :-)
08:03 < mnemoc> trunk or branch/2.1?
08:03 < mipe> damm this vr programming is getting to my nerves, specially when using commercial scenegraph that is build using no logic at all
08:03 < mnemoc> mipe: for univ?
08:03 < mipe> mnemoc: summer job at my school
08:04 < mipe> damm school starts in few weeks
08:04 < mnemoc> Shingo--: download first tries to grab files from the faster mirror, then it tries original location, then it fails
08:05 < mnemoc> Shingo--: if the package was reciently updated or the faster mirror is outdated you will get troubles
08:05 < Shingo--> nope.
08:05 < mnemoc> Shingo--: what is failing?
08:05 < Shingo--> may I put some line here?
08:06 < mnemoc> yes
08:06 < Shingo--> Finished downloading 0 bytes in 0,544 seconds (0,000 bytes/sec).
08:06 < Shingo--> curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404
08:06 < Shingo--> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 22. Please read the curl manpage.
08:06 < Shingo--> INFO: download from mirror failed, trying original URL.
08:06 < Shingo--> ######################################################################## 100,0%
08:06 < Shingo--> Finished downloading 146392 bytes in 10,708 seconds (13671,000 bytes/sec).
08:06 < Shingo--> cksum-test (bzip2): download/mirror/p/patchutils-0.2.31.tar.bz2
08:06 < Shingo--> Downloading texinfo:download/mirror/t/texinfo-4.7.tar.gz ...
08:06 < Shingo--> Finished downloading 0 bytes in 0,542 seconds (0,000 bytes/sec).
08:06 < Shingo--> curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404
08:06 < Shingo--> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 22. Please read the curl manpage.
08:06 < Shingo--> INFO: download from mirror failed, trying original URL.
08:06 < Shingo--> Finished downloading 0 bytes in 0,005 seconds (0,000 bytes/sec).
08:06 < Shingo--> curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404
08:06 < Shingo--> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 22. Please read the curl manpage.
08:07 < mnemoc> texinfo-4.7 is not available on mirror, and also missing in original location...
08:08 < Shingo--> but where is the error?
08:08 < mnemoc> Downloading texinfo:download/mirror/t/texinfo-4.7.tar.gz ...
08:08 < mnemoc> curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404
08:08 < mnemoc> curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404
08:08 < mnemoc> the first comes from the mirror (outdated)
08:08 < Shingo--> do a manual download?
08:09 < mnemoc> i suggest you to download everything possible from that fast mirror
08:09 < mnemoc> and then change it to use an slower but updated one
08:09 < Shingo--> how to update mirror list? I think it was updated from the site.
08:09 < mnemoc> vi download/Mirror
08:10 < mnemoc> trunk or branch/2.1?
08:10 < Shingo--> but where is the mirror list?
08:10 < Shingo--> trunk
08:11 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/t2-mirror/2.2.0-alpha 2.2.0-alpha
08:11 < mnemoc> ^---- put that on your download/Mirror
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08:11 < mnemoc> after you downloaded everything from the faste one
08:12 < mnemoc> anyway, the list is at src/Download-Mirror-List
08:16 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/t2-mirror/2.2.0-alpha/t/texinfo-4.7.tar.bz2 <--- if you want to download it manualy
08:17 < Shingo--> I put the mirror and works ok. :-)
08:18 < mnemoc> :)
08:20 < mnemoc> uhm www.mirror.ac.uk doesn't have texinfo....
08:28 < CIA-9> amery * r10423 /branches/2.1/package/filesystem/parted/parted.desc: * merged 9231,10261 from trunk: updated parted (1.6.21 -> 1.6.23)
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08:53 < minto> moin
09:01 < mipe> hi minto
09:03 < minto> Hi mipe
09:03 < minto> T2 gets more popular, I see 3 new names on the channel :-)
09:03 < _Ragnar_> ;D
09:04 < minto> hi _Ragnar_
09:05 < mtr_> moin minto mipe _Ragnar_
09:06 < minto> hi mtr
09:06 < _Ragnar_> I was just about to head to bed
09:06 < _Ragnar_> so: goodnight :)
09:06 < minto> _Ragnar_: I just got out of it :-)
09:06 < _Ragnar_> :D
09:06 < minto> sleep well
09:07 < _Ragnar_> thanks have a nice day :)
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09:12 < morfoh> moin
09:12 < minto> morning morfoh
09:12 < morfoh> good morning minto
09:23 < mipe> hi morfoh
09:23 < morfoh> hi mipe
09:26 < mtr_> morfoh: moin, and thanks for the openssl fix, i'm really sorry that you got in such svn troubles ... ;)
09:26 < morfoh> arrrg ... no problem . it was my fault
09:26 < mipe> damm, mtr problems
09:26 < mipe> with the package ofcourse
09:27 < mtr_> mipe: ?
09:27 < mipe> cannot find libresolv, res_mkquery not found
09:27 < mipe> ehm, base/mtr package
09:30 < CIA-9> chris * r10424 /branches/2.1/package/python/python/python.conf: * merged r9811: added postmake hook for touching /etc/profile.d/python exporting the right PYTHON env var
09:34 < mipe> hmm, why doesnt aclocal get opt/gnome2/share/aclocal/gtk-2.0.m4? during running aclocal
09:35 < mipe> i patched mtr configure.in and need to recreate configure
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09:47 < mnemoc_> gn8 *
09:47 < morfoh> mnemoc_: can take a short look at my last query ??? please ?
09:48 < mnemoc_> copy&paste please
09:48 < mnemoc_> i guess i missed it
09:48 < morfoh> yes :)
09:49 < minto> sleep well mnemoc
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10:35 < karasz> a nice new day to you all :)
11:00 < CIA-9> rene * r10425 /trunk/package/kde/kbluetooth/ (. kdebluetooth.cache kdebluetooth.conf kdebluetooth.desc): * added kdebluetooth (1.0_beta1)
11:01 < rxr_> re
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11:04 < morfoh> hi rxr, karasz
11:04 < karasz> hi morfoh
11:04 < CIA-9> rene * r10426 /trunk/package/kde/kbluetooth/ (kdebluetooth.conf kdebluetooth.desc): * copyright and checksum for the kdebluetooth package - sorry
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11:18 < CIA-9> rene * r10427 /trunk/package/kde/ (kbluetooth/ kdebluetooth/): * oops - tricked svn by accidently renaming a already added dir
11:19 < CIA-9> msluis * r10428 /trunk/package/audio/qjackctl/qjackctl.desc: * update qjackctl (0.2.17 -> 0.2.18)
11:20 < mipe> wohoo,finally mtr builded
11:21 < CIA-9> msluis * r10429 /trunk/package/base/man-pages/man-pages.desc: * update man-pages (2.04 -> 2.07)
11:23 < CIA-9> msluis * r10430 /trunk/package/develop/commonc++/commonc++.desc: * update commonc++ (1.3.11 -> 1.3.15)
11:24 < CIA-9> msluis * r10431 /trunk/package/filesystem/vcdimager/vcdimager.desc: * update vcdimager (0.7.21 -> 0.7.23)
11:25 < CIA-9> msluis * r10432 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtksourceview/gtksourceview.desc: * update gtksourceview (1.2.0 -> 1.2.1)
11:25 < CIA-9> msluis * r10433 /trunk/package/java/classpath/classpath.desc: * update classpath (0.16 -> 0.17)
11:26 < mipe> http://212.66.194.40/t2/system/regressions.html
11:26 < mipe> nearly there
11:27 < CIA-9> msluis * r10434 /trunk/package/network/lighttpd/lighttpd.desc: * update lighttpd (1.3.14 -> 1.3.15)
11:31 < CIA-9> rene * r10435 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdm/gdm.postinstall:
11:31 < CIA-9> * fixed gdm.postinstall to create the Sessions directory which latest
11:31 < CIA-9> gdm versions do not seem to do ...
11:33 < CIA-9> rene * r10436 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
11:33 < CIA-9> * unified login manager postinstall script output and removed the ROCK
11:33 < CIA-9> prefix from the "creating ... from the wm registry" output
11:39 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/mobil/artikel/61092
11:39 < rxr> ^- 60000EUR SPARC laptop ...
11:42 < rxr> GNU CLISP 2.34 vcdimager (0.7.21 -> 0.7.23)
11:43 < minto> rxr: GNU CLISP ...?????
11:44 < rxr> sorry the later half was due to lagging ssh and accident paste ...
11:44 < minto> ahh
11:44 < CIA-9> msluis * r10437 /trunk/package/multimedia/kphone/ (gcc34.patch kphone.desc): * update kphone (4.1.1 -> 4.2)
11:46 < rxr> minto: is in an update fever ?
11:46 < minto> :-)
11:46 < morfoh> :)
11:46 < minto> Someone has to do it
11:47 < minto> I am thinking about writing a how to update packages.
11:47 < minto> Should be fairly easy for newbees.
11:47 < CIA-9> rene * r10438 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/ (12 files in 4 dirs): * the next archivista preconfiguration rootfs overlay
11:47 < rxr> yep
11:47 < rxr> s.th. like T2 janitors of how they are called ...
11:48 < rxr> btw. skip gnome - susan might update gnome today
11:48 < minto> ack
11:48 < minto> I am only updating what shows up in the updates mail.
11:49 < minto> I still have a few pending, but they did not work straight away.
11:49 < minto> Can someone have a look why lstrace fails on noisy.
11:50 < CIA-9> rene * r10439 /trunk/target/ (generic/config.in livecd/config.in): * updated the dietlibc packages for generic and livecd
11:50 * minto has to feed Merlyn, brb
11:55 < mipe> minto: noisy is amd64?
11:56 < morfoh> mipe: yes ... noisy is amd64
11:57 < mipe> hmm,ltrace builds but strace is disabled on me... you get the ptrace.h error?
11:58 < mipe> i have few patches to submit for amd64 fixes,but wont do it just yet...
12:11 < CIA-9> rene * r10440 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/hotplud.d/ (. default/ default/90-backup.hotplug): * added automated backup to usb devices to the archivista target
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12:33 < minto> mipe, morfoh: although noisy is amd64 I am currently building 32 bits reference builds.
12:34 < minto> Regressions reports are available at:
12:34 < minto> http://multimach.dyndns.org/t2/trunk/regressions/reference-32/log/3-ltrace.err
12:34 < minto> http://multimach.dyndns.org/t2/2.1/regressions/reference-32/log/3-ltrace.err
12:39 < mipe> minto: your host is 64bit? it looks like its building x86-64 on ltrace
12:40 < minto> Seems ltrace detects the host system and configures accordingly.
12:41 < mipe> if your host is 64bit, you need to pass -m32 to gcc,this can be done from Config i think...
12:44 < minto> uhmm? In additional compiler flags?
12:44 < mipe> yep
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12:45 < minto> Here it goes
12:47 < minto> Hmm, same result, but I can't find the -m32 in the log.
12:47 < Shingo--> I get another error? about -mcpu stuff. how can I make my own CFLAGS?
12:48 < mipe> minto:err log?
12:49 < minto> Looks the same as before, but I will create a fresh regression report
12:49 < Shingo--> may I put my terminal output here?
12:50 < minto> Shingo--: Only a few lines please
12:50 < Shingo--> !> `-mcpu=' is deprecated. Use `-mtune=' or '-march=' inste ..
12:50 < Shingo--> !> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/shingo/T2/src.glibc.sy ..
12:50 < Shingo--> !> make[1]: *** [csu/subdir_lib] Error 2
12:54 < minto> mipe: report is only (same link)
12:54 < minto> only = online
12:55 < mipe> 2.1 or trunk one?
12:55 < minto> trunk
13:00 < mipe> thats wierd
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13:01 < mipe> has it build still 64bit toolchain? what does file build//usr/bin/gcc say
13:02 < minto> It is not there
13:04 < minto> Sorry it is there
13:05 < minto> Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --libdir=/usr/lib --datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --infodir=/usr/info --mandir=/usr/man --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --disable-debug --enable-libpam --enable-pam --build=i586-t2-linux-gnu --host=i586-t2-linux-gnu --enable-__cxa_atexit --disable-multilib --with-gnu-as --with-gnu-ld...
13:05 < minto> # gcc -v
13:05 < minto> Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc/i586-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/specs
13:05 < minto> ...--enable-threads=posix --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs --disable-libgcj --enable-shared=yes
13:05 < minto> Thread model: posix
13:05 < minto> gcc version 3.4.3
13:06 < minto> I think the problem is in ./configure
13:06 < minto> config.log says:
13:06 < minto> hostname = noisy
13:06 < minto> uname -m = x86_64
13:06 < minto> uname -r = 2.6.12
13:06 < minto> uname -s = Linux
13:06 < minto> uname -v = #3 SMP Mon Jun 27 17:59:47 CEST 2005
13:06 < minto> /usr/bin/uname -p = unknown
13:06 < minto> /bin/uname -X = unknown
13:06 < minto> /bin/arch = x86_64
13:07 < minto> maybe --build or --host should be passed to configure?
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13:08 < minto> Hi Shingo-- already more luck on your error?
13:08 < Shingo--> yes
13:08 < minto> good
13:10 < mipe> minto:ah yes it takes build from uname
13:13 < mipe> hmm, no thats not it
13:13 < mipe> but is gcc 64bit?
13:13 < minto> ERROR_LOG says:
13:14 < minto> Running ./configure --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --libdir=/usr/lib --datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --infodir=/usr/info --mandir=/usr/man --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --disable-debug --disable-libpam --disable-pam _--build=i386-t2-linux-gnu --host=i386-t2-linux-gnu_
13:14 < minto> hmm, --host and --build already passed.
13:16 < minto> mipe: How can I find out if gcc is 64 bits?
13:19 < mipe> file gcc
13:19 < mipe> in build/*/usr/bin
13:20 < minto> /gcc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, ...
13:21 < minto> I think I found it. ./sysdeps/Makefile says:
13:22 < minto> ARCH := $(shell uname -m | sed -e s/i.86/i386/ -e s/sun4u/sparc64/ -e s/arm.*/arm/ -e s/sa110/arm/)
13:22 < mipe> yep
13:22 < mipe> var_append makeopt ARCH=i386
13:22 < minto> How do I solve it?
13:22 < mipe> ups thats wrong
13:22 < mipe> var_append makeopt ' ' 'ARCH=i386'
13:22 < minto> ah, I will try
13:23 < minto> Uhmm, how about crossbuilding?
13:23 < minto> I think I need a more generic solution.
13:24 < minto> Let's see what t2 variables there are.
13:24 < mipe> i386 is also native to amd64
13:24 < mipe> ah.... dont know what variable holds arch....
13:25 < minto> Sure, but what if I wanne build 64 bits later on?
13:25 < mipe> in src.ltrace* what is arch in debug.buildenv
13:25 < mipe> and arch_machine
13:27 < minto> declare -- arch="x86"
13:27 < minto> declare -- arch_machine="i386"
13:28 < mipe> var_append makeopt ' ' 'ARCH=$arch_machine'
13:28 < mipe> should do it
13:29 < mipe> but dont know about amd64, since i didnt see sed for that anyway in Makefile
13:30 < mipe> but the variable is correct for atleast i386 and x86_64
13:30 < minto> I will try
13:30 < mipe> to work on ltrace
13:33 < minto> maybe am64 does not need to be modified with the sed command, since there is a x86_64 directory for it.
13:34 < mipe> yep
13:36 < minto> Yuck, same result
13:44 < mipe> was it passed to make?
13:44 < minto> mipe: it seems ARCH is not passed from ltrace/Makefile to /ltrace/sysdeps/linux-gnu/Makefile
13:45 < minto> Doing it manually in the subdir works
13:46 < minto> Running make CC=gcc CPP=cpp CXX=g++ prefix=/usr ARCH=i386
13:46 < minto> ^--- is from the erro-log
13:47 < minto> I should have looked better, the error message are different.
13:50 < minto> Huh? seems like it tries to build both i386 and x86_64.
13:50 < minto> another line in the error-log says:
13:50 < minto> Running make CC=gcc CPP=cpp CXX=g++ prefix=/usr install.
13:52 < minto> Do I need to add ARCH to install options as well?
13:53 < minto> ahh makeinstopt
13:54 < mipe> hmm,yep
13:55 < minto> Let's see what happens now
13:55 < minto> Oeh, Oeh! it built
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14:00 < mipe> good :)
14:04 < mipe> good :)
14:04 < mipe> ups
14:08 < CIA-9> mtr * r10442 /trunk/package/editors/lyx/ (. lyx.cache lyx.desc): * added lyx (1.3.6)
14:09 < CIA-9> mtr * r10443 /trunk/package/x11/xforms/ (. xforms.cache xforms.desc): * added xforms (1.0.90)
14:11 < CIA-9> mtr * r10444 /trunk/package/multimedia/mpgtx/ (. mpgtx.cache mpgtx.desc): * added mpgtx (1.3.1)
14:12 < CIA-9> mtr * r10445 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvdstyler/ (. dvdstyler.cache dvdstyler.desc): * added dvdstyler (1.4)
14:14 < CIA-9> mtr * r10446 /trunk/package/multimedia/qdvdauthor/ (. qdvdauthor.cache qdvdauthor.conf qdvdauthor.desc): * added qdvdauthor (0.0.10)
14:24 < mipe> lol,www.myscreen.org
14:24 < mipe> to watch kde devs on the work
14:27 < CIA-9> mtr * r10447 /trunk/package/network/ifstat/ (. ifstat.cache ifstat.desc): * added ifstat (1.1)
14:32 < CIA-9> rene * r10448 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/network.sh: * added custom network configuration
14:37 < CIA-9> msluis * r10449 /trunk/package/base/ltrace/ltrace.conf:
14:37 < CIA-9> * fixed ltrace to build 32 bits on x86_64 (not crosscompile). Fix
14:37 < CIA-9> is probably necessary for crossbuilding as well.
14:42 < CIA-9> mtr * r10450 /trunk/package/network/bacula/ (8 files):
14:42 < CIA-9> * updated bacula (1.36.3 -> 1.37.30 Beta)
14:42 < CIA-9> * made database selection a build time config option:
14:42 < CIA-9> only one of MySQL, PostgreSQL, SQLite2/3 is supported
14:42 < CIA-9> * enabled gnome and wxwidgets gui console
14:42 < CIA-9> * added .init scripts
14:45 < CIA-9> mtr * r10451 /trunk/package/security/openssl/md4_size_t.patch: * added another openssl header file patch for md4.h (hostap likes it)
14:48 < CIA-9> mtr * r10452 /trunk/package/security/ (libchipcard/libchipcard.desc libchipcard2/libchipcard2.desc):
14:48 < CIA-9> * fix libchipcard due to latest opensc update
14:48 < CIA-9> * set sysconfdir to /etc
14:51 < morfoh> mtr_: thanks for the bacula stuff :) ... unfortunately I've done the same work
14:56 < CIA-9> rene * r10453 /trunk/target/archivista/pkgsel: * added missing jpeg2ps to the archivista target
14:58 < mtr_> morfoh: : duplicate work :( always a waste of ressources
14:59 < minto> What can we do to prevent duplicate work?
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15:00 < morfoh> minto: dunno ... hmmm. perhaps trac ? but I don't know. I'm not quite well today anyway ... so just ignore some dumb proposals
15:01 < minto> morfoh: that't not a dump proposal. I think it is quite good.
15:02 < morfoh> minto: it would be nice to "wire" trac and the update list to generate update request in trac automatically
15:03 < morfoh> mtr_: nice work regarding bacula :)
15:03 < mtr_> what about www2? something like TODO's on the wiki
15:04 < minto> Maybe we should write some kind of work-process. like.
15:04 < minto> 1) Look at existing trac issues
15:04 < minto> 2) either pick one or create a new one
15:04 < minto> 3) mark issues you are working on (so other people _can_ know)
15:04 < minto> 4) document progress if it takes a lot of work.
15:04 < minto> 5) finish the issue.
15:04 < morfoh> mtr_: yes ... that would be an option too
15:05 < morfoh> minto: ack ... I'd prefer integrating it into trac ....
15:05 < minto> Every commit should have a related trac issue
15:06 < mtr_> is it possible to search for such issues in trac?
15:06 < morfoh> mtr_: you can define custom reports
15:06 < morfoh> mtr_: and of course searching for it
15:07 < morfoh> mtr_: it has also the function for just showing ticktets that were assigned to you
15:07 < morfoh> etc etc ...
15:08 < mtr_> morfoh: in such cases it would be interesting to search through tickets of others, e.g. if someone else is currrently working on package xyz
15:08 < minto> bbl
15:08 < morfoh> I think that is possible but I've to check it to be sure
15:08 < morfoh> cu minto
15:10 < morfoh> mtr_: or we have to extend trac for that ... pulling out the needed information from the underlying sqlite db
15:11 < morfoh> mtr_: but I think it's possible to define custom queries anyway
15:12 < morfoh> ok folks ... I'm away for a while ... cu later
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15:14 < mtr_> yep, bbl
15:26 < rxr> how is mod_perl activated in apach 2 ?
15:26 < rxr> apache 2 even
15:30 < rxr> mnemoc_: ?
15:41 < rxr> ok - found the issue
15:41 < rxr> LoadModule perl_module modules/mod_perl.so
15:42 < rxr> I intuitively wrote mod_perl or so ...
15:58 < minto> mnemoc: r10449 applies to 2.1 as well.
15:58 < minto> mnemoc_: r10449 applies to 2.1 as well.
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16:24 < morfoh> re hi
16:25 < rxr> rehi morfoh
16:26 < morfoh> hi rxr, how is the work goping ?
16:26 < morfoh> going
16:28 < minto> Oeps, London was hit again
16:28 < morfoh> minto: yes
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16:51 < CIA-9> rene * r10454 /trunk/package/graphic/pdftk/ (. pdftk.conf pdftk.desc): * added pdftk (1.12) - untested but should build (requires JAVA ...)
16:53 < CIA-9> rene * r10455 /trunk/target/archivista/pkgsel:
16:53 < CIA-9> * added pdftk and curl to the archivista target - the first is required
16:53 < CIA-9> the later convenient for building t2 inside the resulting target
17:00 < rxr> mnemoc_: so when I update gnome to 2.10.2 you want me to run a shell script iterating over every updatee ? not a big, atomic 2.10.2 update, right ?
17:03 < CIA-9> rene * r10456 /trunk/target/archivista/ (config.in pkgsel):
17:03 < CIA-9> * removed the userspace memtester and forced GCC's JAVA for the
17:03 < CIA-9> archivista target
17:06 < rxr> 1737 packages in tree ...
17:08 < minto> :-)
17:20 < rxr> mnemoc_: Binc IMAP 1.2.13final (Stable)
17:27 < CIA-9> rene * r10457 /trunk/package/editors/ne/ne.desc: * updated ne (1.39 -> 1.40)
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17:32 < mnemoc_> re
17:32 < mnemoc_> rxr: you can freely bound gnome updates as far as they are all 2.10.1 -> 2.10.2
17:34 < morfoh> hi mnemoc_
17:34 < mnemoc_> rxr: hi morfoh
17:34 < mnemoc_> :p
17:34 < morfoh> :P
17:34 < mnemoc_> hi rxr, morfoh, sepp_, minto
17:35 < minto> hi mnemoc
17:37 < morfoh> I'm updating bincimap12 <--- just a note
17:38 < rxr> moin mnemoc_
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17:44 < CIA-9> rene * r10458 /trunk/TODO:
17:44 < CIA-9> * some private TODO addons, I know we have a tracker now - to be
17:44 < CIA-9> added there the next time ...
17:45 < morfoh> .oO( a private TODO list on a public repo )o :)
17:46 < rxr> morfoh: ehrm - what I should do on t2 ...
17:46 < rxr> of course not my shopping or holiday preparation ...
17:46 < morfoh> hehe :D
17:46 < mnemoc_> :)
17:46 < morfoh> rxr: I know
17:46 < rxr> of course you are free to work on those items as well ...
17:47 < morfoh> rxr: thx :)
17:47 < mnemoc_> rxr: can you comment Emerge-Pkg mail?
17:48 < rxr> mnemoc_: ouhm ...
17:48 < rxr> yeah - I know Emerge needs improvements ...
17:48 < rxr> but - I wonder if I have the time to comment ...
17:49 < morfoh> how the hell has renamed the ipsvd bincimap patch and has not adapted the changes in "pkg_bincimap12_pre.conf" ?
17:49 < morfoh> who
17:49 < rxr> guess not /me ...
17:50 < mnemoc_> svn info over the patch
17:50 < morfoh> I'd wonder if that was tested before the commit :)
17:50 < mnemoc_> i doubt
17:51 < mnemoc_> btw, rxr: waimea doesn't like cairo update
17:51 < rxr> ouhm
17:51 < mnemoc_> and hal patch doesn't apply anymore to gnome-volume-manager
17:51 < rxr> then don't update cairo for now
17:51 < rxr> .oO
17:51 < mnemoc_> i wont
17:51 < mnemoc_> but i thought you used it
17:51 < mnemoc_> i was just telling you
17:52 < rxr> nope - it was a proof of concept T2 eye candy demo ...
17:52 < rxr> mnemoc_: yep - thanks
17:52 < mnemoc_> ic :)
17:52 < rxr> a nice to have thikng (tm)
17:52 < rxr> I use either a full blown KDE - or on less fast CPUs e16 ...
17:53 < morfoh> mnemoc_: --> svn log -r 6784 <-- I guess I know why you said "I doubt"
17:53 < morfoh> :p
17:53 < mnemoc_> :)
17:54 < mnemoc_> i test when i merge :)
17:54 < rxr> 19260 root 25 0 3288 696 524 R 92.0 0.1 34:32.20 pkg-config
17:54 < rxr> ^- oehm - !
17:54 < morfoh> mnemoc_: ah ... I see ... good man :)
17:54 < rxr> this is why libgnome does not finish ...
17:54 < mnemoc_> rxr: ?
17:54 < mnemoc_> rxr: odd owner?
17:55 < rxr> mnemoc_: ?
17:55 < mnemoc_> oh, thats a ps
17:55 < mnemoc_> my brain is frozen :)
17:55 < rxr> pkg-config 0.17
17:55 < rxr> the broken one I think
17:55 < rxr> me emerging ...
17:55 < rxr> oh - 0.18 ...
17:55 < rxr> the last time I saw it it was 0.16 - downdated due to breakage ...
17:55 < rxr> is 0.18 fully tested ?
17:56 < rxr> ok - silence ...
17:56 < rxr> ic
17:57 < mnemoc_> we have an agile trunk :)
17:57 < rxr> which is good ,-)
17:57 < rxr> isn't it ?
17:57 < CIA-9> chris * r10459 /trunk/package/network/ipsvd/pkg_bincimap12_pre.conf: * fixed a "typo" in pkg_bincimap12_pre.conf which fixes the proper bincimap patch injection
17:58 < mnemoc_> 0.16.0 on 2.1
17:58 < mnemoc_> of course it is
17:58 < mnemoc_> 0.17 had the recursion change
17:58 < CIA-9> chris * r10460 /trunk/package/mail/bincimap12/bincimap12.desc: * updated bincimap (1.2.13beta1 -> 1.2.13final)
17:59 < rxr> mnemoc_: ack
17:59 < morfoh> mnemoc_: btw, nested stuff seems not to work so far
17:59 < mnemoc_> morfoh: what part? config is not implemented yet
18:00 < mnemoc_> and .patch collection should be done in backware
18:00 < morfoh> mnemoc_: aha!
18:01 < mnemoc_> .oO( where is firefox icon? )o
18:02 < morfoh> mnemoc_: so I've to include config.in from mnemosyne if I want to extend it ... right ?
18:02 < mnemoc_> you have to include $target/config.in for each $target
18:02 < mnemoc_> on the chain
18:03 < morfoh> mnemoc_: ok ... ic. I guess that's the missing piece atm.
18:03 < rxr> pkg-config 0.18 passed libgnome configure ...
18:03 < mnemoc_> but $target/config.in has to be splited, to do options on config.in and changes to packages file on postconfig.in
18:04 < mnemoc_> :)
18:04 < morfoh> mnemoc_: ok ... I'll check that out
18:05 < rxr> ok - libgnome finished now ...
18:05 < mnemoc_> .oO( why PIL is not installing .h anymore? )o
18:05 < rxr> == 17:59:11 =[9]=> Building gnome2/libgnome [2.10.1 2.2.0-alpha].
18:05 < mnemoc_> rxr: :D
18:05 < rxr> == 07/21/05 18:01:49 =[9]=> Finished building package libgnome.
18:06 < rxr> so pkgconfig 0.18 is at least better than 0.17 ,...
18:07 < minto> Why was some (and not all) of the documentation moved from ./Documentation to ./misc/share?
18:07 < rxr> minto: because those are used from scripts
18:08 < minto> I find it confusing for the doc to be in separate places.
18:08 < rxr> minto: the trunk will soon not have any doc at all
18:08 < mnemoc_> stuff on ./misc/share shall be documented on cMS
18:08 < rxr> the docs that have been moved are data files of the shell scripts
18:08 < mnemoc_> CMS*
18:09 < mnemoc_> those are 'internals'
18:09 < minto> Okay
18:09 < morfoh> mnemoc_: ERROR: plugins config was not rendered! <-- while running Config
18:09 < morfoh> # cat config.in
18:09 < morfoh> . ./target/mnemosyne/config.in
18:10 < mnemoc_> review if inside mnemosyne/config.in there are references to $target or $targetdir
18:17 < morfoh> I can't see a references to $target or $targetdir but the key was to create pkgsel and placing sth. into it ;)
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18:17 < morfoh> mnemoc: I just move pkgsel/Base and voila :)
18:18 < morfoh> mnemoc: that's how I need it atm ...
18:18 < mnemoc> because it's looking on your children target for pkgsel instead of mnemosyne's
18:18 < morfoh> yes
18:18 < mnemoc> $target or $targetdir is the problem
18:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll try to add my custom pkgsel first and testing it ...
18:27 < CIA-9> amery * r10461 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/openexr/openexr.desc: * merged 9585 from trunk: updated openexr (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2)
18:28 < rxr> does anyone update firefox and thunderbird
18:28 < rxr> ? even
18:29 < minto> Is it straight forward?
18:29 < mnemoc> 1.0.5 iirc
18:29 < mnemoc> i'm running it
18:29 < rxr> .6 is there, no ?
18:29 < mnemoc> no idea :)
18:30 < rxr> Download Thunderbird 1.0.6
18:30 < rxr> Firefox 1.0.6
18:30 < rxr> update anyone ?
18:32 < mnemoc> i'll start download it
18:32 < mnemoc> update comes after checksum
18:32 < morfoh> mnemoc: I could too ... if you connection sucks
18:32 < mnemoc> them*
18:32 < mnemoc> you do it :)
18:32 < morfoh> haha :)
18:32 < rxr> ok - thanks folks
18:33 < minto> morfoh: I could too if your processor sucks ;-)
18:33 < minto> Hmm, that's a lie I have to shutdown noisy :-)
18:33 < morfoh> .oO( minto is a dazzler )o :p
18:34 < morfoh> minto: aha! now you retract your offer
18:34 < morfoh> :)
18:34 < mnemoc> the three p166 i'm installing here are noisy too
18:34 < rxr> eiiiii
18:35 < rxr> this gcj crap even builds corba fluff ..
18:35 < rxr> damn
18:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: I could send you a dual PII 400 if that would increase your speed ;)
18:35 < rxr> no wonder it does not finish
18:35 < mnemoc> morfoh: shipping payed?
18:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: haha :)
18:35 < mnemoc> :)
18:38 < morfoh> rxr: this evening Koehler will officialy tell via TV if we get elections in sept.
18:40 < CIA-9> amery * r10462 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/cinepaint/cinepaint.desc: * merged 9559 from trunk: updated cinepaint (0.19-0 -> 0.19-1)
18:40 < minto> mnemoc: I could give you access to noisy. It is only a pity I have to shut it down after 19:00 local time.
18:41 < morfoh> mnemoc: so hurry up you will have 20min. for fixing :p
18:41 < mnemoc> i don't feel my fingers.... i can't fix anything in 20 minutes this way
18:41 < morfoh> mnemoc: oh! what happened ?
18:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: is it that cold ?
18:42 < mnemoc> 3°C outside, i thing i have 1 or 2 less here
18:42 < mnemoc> and i can't type with globes
18:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: :(
18:43 < minto> mnemoc: In that case use a notebook. They are mostly nice warm. :-)
18:43 < CIA-9> rene * r10463 /trunk/target/archivista/pkg_tetex.conf:
18:43 < CIA-9> * added a custom tetex config to the archivista target since it only
18:43 < CIA-9> needs epstopdf - this looks a bit rediculous, but that's how it is
18:43 < mnemoc> i do, but it's cold :|
18:43 < morfoh> minto: he is using one
18:43 < rxr> mnemoc: grab an non celeron one ...
18:43 < minto> :-(
18:43 < rxr> mnemoc: or schedule more builds on it ,-)
18:44 < mnemoc> p4 2.8 :) .... yes, a build may help
18:44 < rxr> the archivista tetex.conf is cool ,-)
18:44 < mnemoc> or obstructing the ventilation
18:44 < morfoh> rxr: what is so special ?
18:44 < rxr> that is it a bit strange to just deflate a bit tex tarball to get one perl script
18:45 < rxr> *g*
18:45 < morfoh> minto: afaik ... the DELL boxes are quite hot
18:45 < rxr> damn monster package ...
18:45 < morfoh> hehe :)
18:45 < mnemoc> morfoh: usually yes, but not now
18:45 < rxr> ouhm - gcj building swing
18:45 < rxr> I wonder how long I have to wait for that one ...
18:45 < mnemoc> why gcj? use kaffe
18:45 < rxr> mnemoc: I quickly replied to the Emerge mail
18:45 < mnemoc> ok
18:45 < rxr> though not too much comments to add from my side
18:46 < morfoh> Building www/firefox [1.0.6 2.2.0-alpha].
18:46 < mnemoc> "your suggestions stinks, F* you -Rene"
18:47 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
18:47 < morfoh> ouhm .. .what is happening here ???
18:47 < mnemoc> nothing... i was thinking in a quick reply :)
18:47 < rxr> mnemoc: nna
18:47 < rxr> nah even
18:47 < mnemoc> :)
18:48 < morfoh> hmmm ... how long firefox needs apporx. to build ?
18:48 < morfoh> on a P4M 2GHz
18:49 < mnemoc> morfoh: one hour
18:49 < morfoh> ah! that's ok
18:49 < mnemoc> rxr: i was thinking in a 2.1-compatible Emerge-Pkg improvement
18:50 < rxr> ah yes - there you could do that
18:50 < CIA-9> rene * r10464 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgda/ (libgda.desc recent-bdb.patch): * updated libgda (1.3.3 -> 1.3.4)
18:51 < keinek> hi
18:51 < mnemoc> rxr: can you try to clean mozilla-friends on 2.2?
18:51 < mnemoc> hi keinek
18:52 < rxr> oeh - clean?
18:52 < rxr> you mean use the same gecko ?
18:52 < morfoh> hi keinek
18:52 < minto> hi keinek
18:53 < mnemoc> rxr: yes
18:54 < rxr> ouhm
18:55 < CIA-9> rene * r10465 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/inittab:
18:55 < CIA-9> * added the the missing archivista services to the archivista target's
18:55 < CIA-9> etc/inittab patch
18:59 < rxr> after flushin over 40.000 mails in linux-kernel, xorg, gcc, subversion, ... thunderbird got a bit more responding again
19:00 < mnemoc> does archivista autologin?
19:01 < rxr> yes, why ?
19:01 < mnemoc> to take the script :) i need that on some desktops
19:02 < rxr> you only nede to configure gdm or kdm
19:02 < rxr> usually i use kdm - look at the livecd config - not yet in SVN - but on the CD
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19:02 < rxr> archivista does utilize gdm (not my decision) config diff is in SVN
19:03 < mnemoc> why do you need [xgk]dm to autologin?
19:04 < rxr> oehm - to do that cleanly ...
19:04 < rxr> my first live cd did it manually - but it sucks ...
19:04 < mnemoc> really? why?
19:06 < rxr> su the-user -c "startx"
19:06 < rxr> might do as well
19:07 < rxr> but login manager give you a lot of control of course ...
19:07 < rxr> I hacked that togethe for the first livecd ...
19:07 < rxr> maybe take a look into those - I do not remeber the details how I exactly run X
19:07 < rxr> finally gcc insatll running ...
19:08 < rxr> but I have to admit I just discovered a qemu was still running and burnign 20% cpu ...
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19:12 < rxr> binutils 2.16.91.0.2 is released
19:12 < rxr> still linux kernel needs to be patched for the stricter assembler syntax
19:14 < valentin> very short hi
19:14 < minto> mnemoc: qingy does autologin, doesn't it?
19:14 < valentin> rxr: will you be "here" tomorow ?
19:14 < valentin> hi all
19:14 < minto> Hi valentin
19:14 < morfoh> oh! hi valentin :)
19:14 < minto> how are you girls doing?
19:14 < morfoh> valentin: how are you and your family ?
19:14 < valentin> just fine, thank you
19:14 < morfoh> good :)
19:14 < mnemoc> minto: never used that fancy getty :)
19:15 < rxr> valentin: maybe a bit
19:15 < valentin> ok, maybe i'll have some cpio questions
19:15 < rxr> valentin: oehm - ah
19:15 < mnemoc> hi valentin
19:15 < rxr> valentin: shoudl I call later today ?
19:15 < mnemoc> valentin: how are your girls?
19:15 < minto> oh btw, mnemoc, unison rocks
19:15 < mnemoc> :)
19:16 < morfoh> minto: what is unison ?
19:16 < minto> or should I say t2s instead of rocks :-)
19:16 < valentin> rxr: no you don't have to
19:16 < valentin> hi mnemoc
19:16 < minto> I gotta go, bbl
19:16 < morfoh> cu minto
19:16 < valentin> cu minto and thanks for the muisjes
19:20 < keinek> mnemoc, the livecd is working fine? what about linux magazine?
19:23 < mnemoc> keinek: ask rene and valentin :)
19:24 < keinek> the last version is ready for download?
19:25 < morfoh> keinek: I guess not. I think there are some missing pieces if you would like to build a livecd atm.
19:25 < keinek> ok... but the iso for download ?
19:26 < morfoh> keinek: I think the "official" final version isn't there yet. but I don't know exactly
19:27 < mnemoc> keinek: http://torrent.t2-project.org/ <--- the gamma is there
19:27 < keinek> thanks
19:27 < keinek> i hate torrent.
19:27 < mnemoc> www.t2-project.org/livecd
19:28 < mnemoc> www.t2-project.org/live
19:29 < keinek> thanks.
19:29 < keinek> :)
19:35 < morfoh> package/www/mozilla/mozilla.conf: line 72: 26624 Segmentation fault LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./regchrome <-- firefox :(
19:35 < mnemoc> strace :)
19:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: ?
19:36 < mnemoc> ./debug.sh cd firefox-*; LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. strace -vvtT ./regchrome
19:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: and now ?
19:39 < mnemoc> see where and why it's segfaulting :)
19:39 < mnemoc> -vvfF, not tT :\
19:41 < morfoh> it doesn't output anything
19:42 < mnemoc> .oO
19:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think it failed because I screwed up my system the last days
19:43 < mnemoc> openssl thing?
19:43 < morfoh> I guess yes
19:45 < morfoh> mnemoc: should I commit the update anyway ... and somebody else trying to build it on a "cleaner" system ?
19:45 < mnemoc> to trunk, yes
19:46 < morfoh> mnemoc: of course to trunk
19:46 < morfoh> :)
19:46 < morfoh> oh! no! wait ... I will merge it to 2.1 now :p
19:48 < mnemoc> :)
19:50 < CIA-9> chris * r10466 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (1.0.5 -> 1.0.6)
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20:48 < minto> hi
20:50 < morfoh> re hi minto
20:50 < minto> howdy morfoh
21:01 < minto> :-)
21:02 * minto is glad he modified the shadow patch into a script.
21:02 < CIA-9> msluis * r10467 /trunk/package/base/shadow/shadow.desc: * update shadown (4.0.11 -> 4.0.11.1)
21:02 < morfoh> minto: :)
21:03 < minto> morfoh: what package is really smal and can do no harm. I wanne do some testing.
21:05 < morfoh> minto: uhm? what do you want to test seems to be important for an answer :)
21:05 < minto> I found one, bize
21:06 < mnemoc> bize is a mine replacemente for .tar.bz2
21:06 < minto> I wanne test my mailcap enhancement for parse-config.
21:06 < morfoh> mnemoc: is bize ok ?
21:06 < minto> I do not care what the package does
21:06 < mnemoc> for what?
21:06 < minto> I just what it to build fast.
21:06 < morfoh> mnemoc: bize is a mine replacemente for .tar.bz2
21:06 < minto> mnemoc: for the script you reviewed yesterday.
21:07 < mnemoc> morfoh: i guess
21:07 < mnemoc> morfoh: jimmy did it
21:07 < morfoh> ok ... but who is jimmy ? ;)
21:07 < minto> carter?
21:07 < mnemoc> a russian rocker
21:07 < morfoh> :D
21:08 < mnemoc> disappeared one year ago
21:08 < minto> So, not the former president of the US :-)
21:08 < mnemoc> nope
21:08 < morfoh> minto: I guess the jimmy you mentioned was more into war biz :)
21:09 < minto> You never know what they do in there spare time. War for a living hacking for a hobby?
21:09 < morfoh> :)
21:12 < morfoh> yeah .... this would be nice to see ... G.W.B hacking. but I guess he would be a bit confused because the computer won't do any "prompting"- at least not the "prompting" he likes :)
21:13 < minto> Nah, If he would, he would be doing Windows and writing in logo or turtle.
21:13 < morfoh> haha ... yeah turtle was nice :)
21:18 < minto> Yuck, doing mime.types twice fails.
21:18 < minto> How can I find out where the following error came from.
21:19 < minto> sed: -e expression #1, char 16: extra characters after command
21:19 < minto> The log does not show the instruction.
21:19 < mnemoc> review your sed call.... or enable XTRACE on config
21:20 < minto> my sed calls only have -i, so I will try XTRACE.
21:20 < mnemoc> char 16: extra characters after command <--- this can be something like: 's,foo,bar,,'
21:20 < minto> It was the xtrace options. Normally I have it turned, but not this time.
21:21 < minto> thanks, I will check my sed's anyway..
21:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: why is ipvsd in base.all and DNS.ask ?
21:22 < morfoh> ipsvd I mean
21:22 < mnemoc> i guess to have it even if i remove it from base.all :)
21:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: but I thought *.all is included anyway ?
21:23 < mnemoc> yes
21:23 < mnemoc> _if_ requirements are fulfilled
21:23 < morfoh> waht requirements do you mean exactly ?
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21:25 < mnemoc> if a .all depends on PYTHON, it will be added only if PYTHON
21:25 < mnemoc> but without asking
21:25 < minto> Ahh, found it. It was my -i after all.
21:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: aha! ic
21:29 < minto> Hmm, I need some sed help here. The following command fail since the mimetype var contains a /
21:29 < minto> sed -i "/^$mimetype .*\$/d" $root/etc/mime.types
21:29 < mnemoc> use a , or a |
21:29 < minto> , does not work
21:30 < minto> I will try the other one.
21:30 < mnemoc> or escape /s inside mimetype
21:30 < mnemoc> ${mimetype//\//\/}
21:31 < minto> I will try that one.
21:31 < mnemoc> ${mimetype//search/replace}
21:41 < minto> ${mimetype//\//_\_\/} did the trick
21:41 < minto> extra \ was needed.
21:41 < mnemoc> :)
21:43 < minto> Thanks, next question. What does the flistdel variable take to skip the following from the flists.
21:43 < minto> usr/share/rock-registry/parse-config/
21:43 < minto> usr/share/rock-registry/parse-config/mimetypes
21:43 < minto> usr/share/rock-registry/parse-config/extensions
21:44 < mnemoc> flistdel is a sed pattern
21:44 < mnemoc> .oO( or grep? )o
21:44 < mnemoc> usr/share/rock-registry/parse-config/.* i guess
21:44 < minto> I will give it a try :-)
21:55 < minto> Skipping the last / does the trick :-)
21:55 < minto> Some more testing and I think I am ready.
21:56 < mnemoc> :)
21:57 < morfoh> minto: ... you updated like h*ll the last days :)
21:58 < minto> :-) Hope I did not break to much
21:58 < morfoh> yes I hope too ... it would be better for you I guess ;)
21:59 * morfoh hides ...
21:59 < minto> btw, how should I test updated packages? Right now I download and build in all specified stages.
21:59 < minto> I do not test if the result actually works. Should I?
22:00 < CIA-9> amery * r10468 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/gocr/gocr.desc: * merged 9586 from trunk: updated gocr (0.39 -> 0.40)
22:01 < minto> morfoh: police remember, we know where you hide. ;-)
22:01 * minto has pokerface right now
22:01 < morfoh> minto: I expected sth. like that :)
22:01 < CIA-9> amery * r10469 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/gimp/gimptool.patch: * added missing copyright note to gimp/gimptool.patch
22:01 * minto has pokerface since he is bluffing
22:02 < minto> No longer police since beginning of this year.
22:03 < morfoh> minto: pssst !
22:03 * minto looks left and right
22:03 < minto> morfoh: what's up
22:03 * minto wispering.
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22:08 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Jun 21 16:27:15 2005]
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22:08 < mnemoc> you call safe_mimetypeadd more times
22:08 < morfoh> minto: my dad goes mostly hunting just for sleeping/relaxing I think
22:09 < morfoh> :)
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22:09 < minto> Should an update remove all previous mime types and add fresh ones
22:09 < minto> mnemoc: ack, but what if the new version supports less mimetypes than the old version?
22:10 < minto> the unsupported mimetypes will still be there.
22:10 < minto> in the new version that is.
22:10 < mnemoc> minto: you are doomed
22:10 < minto> Why?
22:10 < mnemoc> we are additive in everywhere
22:11 < minto> So I should forget about it.
22:11 < minto> :-)
22:13 < minto> In that case I am ready to commit. yeah :-)
22:15 < mnemoc> :)
22:16 < CIA-9> amery * r10470 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/xchm/xchm.desc: * merged 9550 from trunk: updated xchm (0.9.8 -> 1.0) - marked as Stable
22:17 < CIA-9> amery * r10471 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/wings3d/wings3d.desc: * merged 9527 from trunk: updated wings3d (0.98.26b -> 0.98.29b)
22:18 < CIA-9> msluis * r10472 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/parse-config:
22:18 < CIA-9> * added safe_mimetypeadd to parse-config to have proper
22:18 < CIA-9> mimetype support.
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22:25 < CIA-9> amery * r10473 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/libpano/libpano.desc: * merged 9505 from trunk: updated libpano (2.7.0.9 -> 2.7.0.10)
22:27 < minto> mnemoc: Can packages share postsysfile.in?
22:28 < minto> java jre and jdk have the same file
22:29 < mnemoc> yes
22:29 < mnemoc> source one from the other
22:29 < mnemoc> . $base/package/*/foo/postsysfile.in
22:30 < CIA-9> amery * r10474 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/hugin/hugin.desc: * merged 9551 from trunk: updated hugin (0.5-beta4 -> 0.5_rc1)
22:36 < CIA-9> amery * r10475 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/ (pkg_firefox.conf pkg_thunderbird.conf): * improved firefox/thunderbird on mnemosyne to know they have to open protocols with thunderbird/firefox if they are available
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22:38 < Veki> hi
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22:49 < CIA-9> amery * r10476 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/sharpconstruct/ (sharpconstruct.conf sharpconstruct.desc): * merged 9556,9815,9828 from trunk: updated sharpconstruct (0.0.7 -> 0.0.9.1)
22:53 < minto> I am off to bed, sleep wel all.
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22:55 < Veki> morfoh: Are you here around?
22:55 < morfoh> yes
22:56 < morfoh> hi Veki btw
22:56 < Veki> morfoh: great! I have obne question. I have done fresh install of t2. I Emerged svn also
22:56 < Veki> when I do svn up I got Skipped '.' onnly
22:57 < mnemoc> did you svn co ?
22:57 < Veki> no, how to do that?
22:57 < Veki> what to type, I suppose svn co and www adress of svn on t2?
22:58 < mnemoc> cd /usr/src
22:58 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 t2-stable
22:58 < morfoh> Veki: --> http://www.t2-project.org/download.html
22:59 < Veki> ah, excuse me, I am tired so I am confused. Sorry
23:02 < CIA-9> sebastian * r10477 /trunk/package/gnome2/gaim/gaim.desc: * updated gaim (1.3.1 -> 1.4.0)
23:04 < Veki> morfoh: I have done that and it checked revision 10476
23:05 < mnemoc> there you can do svn up
23:05 < Veki> morfoh: when I do svn up it prompts me with Skipped '.' again, uhm
23:05 < morfoh> you have to go into the dir you checked out
23:06 < Veki> ok
23:14 < Veki> it is OK now, thanks
23:17 < CIA-9> amery * r10478 /branches/nestedtargets/functions: * added get_reverted function to return the tokens in backward order
23:22 < CIA-9> amery * r10479 /branches/nestedtargets/functions: * fixed get_reverted to do it's job
23:28 < Veki> morfoh: I do have now t2-stable directory and t2 ...rc1 directory
23:28 < Veki> should I keep th eboth or delete one that is not svn checked
23:29 < morfoh> Veki: as you want
23:29 < morfoh> Veki: it depends what do you wanna do. but I guess you should stay with 2.1 branch you checked out
23:29 < Veki> morfoh: I just wanted to know is there any rule for that. My idea is to make for th ebeginner to use t2 as simpler a spossible and effective as possible. Thus, I am thinking on all det8als that may confuse somone. Sorry to be neat picking
23:30 < Veki> morfoh: yes, I do wnat to stay with branch that I checked. Should I delete that directory manually ?
23:30 < morfoh> if you want :)
23:32 < Veki> OK, I just want to make things cleaner a spossible since beginner may "experiment|. I have instalee a lot of Linux machines and many pople are "experimenting" and thus creating damage. However, that is somehow good way of learning , but training material i.e. manual should be clear and comprehensive a smuch as possible
23:40 < CIA-9> amery * r10480 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/config.in: * fixed mnemosyne config to know where it's files are even if SDETARGET != mnemosyne
23:44 < CIA-9> amery * r10481 /branches/nestedtargets/config.in:
23:44 < CIA-9> * implemented nested targets on scripts/config.in
23:44 < CIA-9> * changed config.in to apply target/$target/pkgsel _after_ config.in
23:44 < CIA-9> * improved config.in to auto-apply pkgsel.sed or pkgsel.awk or pkgsel.in also
23:44 < morfoh> :)
23:45 < CIA-9> amery * r10482 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkg_thunderbird.conf: * fixed mnemosyne/pkg_thunderbird.conf - removed badly pasted lines
23:47 < Veki> morfoh: I started to Emerge-Pkg cdrtools and it started by defaul to dobuild alsa-lib... inluding python. Python aborted since there i sno readline
23:47 < Veki> should I firstly emerge-Pkg readline or so?
23:47 < mnemoc> Veki: use -deps=none
23:47 < Veki> OK, I hope it will work :-)
23:48 < CIA-9> amery * r10483 /branches/nestedtargets/functions: * changed detect_patches to search on targets in reverted order (apply parent patches first)
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23:50 < Veki> morfoh: when I tried to Emerge cdcd which minto added I was returned with there is no package scheduled to build
23:51 < mnemoc> Veki: before running Emerge-Pkg you need to update your config/$config/packages running Config -cfg $config -oldconfig
23:51 < morfoh> Veki: it's just in trunk atm
23:51 < mnemoc> (or without -oldconfig if UI doesn't bother you)
23:52 < Veki> ok
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23:54 < Veki> hi Shingo
23:54 < mnemoc> rxr_: Cleanup doesn't like your .foo files at rootfs
23:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack ... same here
23:59 < Shingo--> Hi
23:59 < morfoh> hi Shingo--
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