T2 IRC Log: 2005-05-15

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--- Log opened Sun May 15 00:00:49 2005
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06:07 < CIA-10> amery * r8882 /branches/2.1/package/printing/cups-samba/ (. cups-samba.conf cups-samba.desc): * added cups-samba (5.0rc3)
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06:50 < CIA-10> amery * r8883 /trunk/package/printing/cups/cups.conf: * merged 8881 from 2.1: fixed cups to install setprinter_cups alternative handler
06:51 < CIA-10> amery * r8884 /trunk/package/printing/cups-samba/ (5 files): * merged 8882 from 2.1: added cups-samba (5.0rc3)
06:57 < CIA-10> amery * r8885 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/ (6 files):
06:57 < CIA-10> * merged 8817 from 2.1: adapted uclibc/parted for 1.6.21
06:57 < CIA-10> * merged 8832 from 2.1: removed uclibc/pine patch. no longer needed.
06:57 < CIA-10> * merged 8833 from 2.1: fixed double patching on uclibc/mutt.
06:57 < CIA-10> * merged 8834 from 2.1: fixed path in uclibc/lsof patch (this should be done with sed)
06:57 < CIA-10> * merged 8835 from 2.1: fixed uclibc/popt adding -lintl
06:57 < CIA-10> * merged 8836 from 2.1: changed bsd-games disabling some features if uclibc. lack of headers
07:41 < CIA-10> amery * r8886 /trunk/package/zope/zope/zope.conf: * added a hook to install mod_zope.sh into stone.d
08:09 < CIA-10> amery * r8887 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/java-conf.in: * fixed java-conf.in to look for java-dirtree package instead of 00-jdk
08:10 < CIA-10> amery * r8888 /trunk/package/java/jikes/jikes.desc: * fixed jikes download location
08:12 < CIA-10> amery * r8889 /trunk/package/java/jikes/jikes.conf: * changed jikes to install on java-dirtree prefix
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09:48 < CIA-10> msluis * r8890 /trunk/package/java/ (9 files in 9 dirs):
09:48 < CIA-10> * Changed jre, jdk and jikes priorities.
09:48 < CIA-10> * Now java is available when building bdb*
10:57 < rxr> re
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11:09 < tilix> hi
11:09 < rxr> The Gimp 2.3.0 (Development)
11:09 < tilix> rxr: do you need help with the installer? If so, where could I check the current code?
11:10 < rxr> the code of the installer of the live cd creation as it ?=
11:11 < tilix> yes
11:14 < rxr> well I'll continue today to get the live cd into trunk
11:14 < rxr> the binary installer lives mostly in the mine package
11:14 < rxr> but this .gem format is somewhat unneeded and crap
11:14 < tilix> ok
11:15 < rxr> we want to deprecate this in T2 2.2 - that is using good old .tar.{gz,bz2,lzo} by default - with other PDA package formats on demand ...
11:15 < rxr> this former installer mostly sucked anyway - so you are free to either come up with a new solution - or reuse some code if you think the former code is useful
11:15 < rxr> but you do not need ot
11:19 < tilix> rxr: should the livecd detect my LAN card or no?
11:19 < rxr> it should
11:19 < tilix> r9 didn`t
11:19 < tilix> it`s integrated in Nforce2
11:21 < tilix> I had to modprobe 'forcedeth' and then ifconfig worked
11:21 < CIA-10> rene * r8891 /trunk/package/graphic/gqview/ (docdir.patch gqview.desc): * updated gqview (1.4.5 -> 2.0.1)
11:23 < rxr> tilix: this does not list your eth module:
11:23 < rxr> hotplug+++ -list pci
11:23 < rxr> oh - only ++ ... ;-)
11:23 < rxr> hotplug++ -list pci
11:23 < rxr> ?
11:23 < tilix> i`m not under T2 now, but I`ll reboot
11:23 < rxr> here those are tested to work:
11:23 < rxr> vendor: 1106, device. 3065, subvendor: 1043, subdevice: 80a1, class: 20000, class mask: 0: Module: via-rhine
11:24 < rxr> oh - is my 3com built int ?
11:24 * tilix rebooting
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11:30 < tilix> ok. under T2 now
11:30 < rxr> ,-)
11:30 < tilix> 1. hotplug++ -list pci showed nothing
11:30 < CIA-10> rene * r8892 /trunk/architecture/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
11:30 < CIA-10> * do not build rivafb and radeon into the kernel on x86
11:30 < CIA-10> * build even the primary Linux filesystems or NFS as module (loaded
11:30 < CIA-10> via early userspace ...)
11:30 < CIA-10> * make sure the Tulip network drivers are build as module
11:31 < rxr> nothing ?
11:31 < tilix> bash-3.00$ sudo /sbin/hotplug ++ -list pci
11:31 < tilix> bash-3.00$
11:31 < rxr> without space after hotplug ;-)
11:31 < rxr> sudo /sbin/hotplug++ -list pci
11:32 < tilix> vendor: 10de, device. 66, subvendor: 1695, subdevice: 1000, class: 20000, class mask: 0: Module: forcedeth
11:32 < tilix> :)
11:32 < rxr> unless there was some other bug in the live cd it should have been loaded then ...
11:32 < tilix> and ifconfig worked without modprobe forcedeth
11:32 < rxr> ah - ok - so all is fine? except that it is not enabled and e.g. DHCP probed by default ?
11:33 < tilix> it`s fine now. I`ve used netcardconfig from Knoppix and it configured my card correctly
11:33 < rxr> you used netcardconfig in T2 ?
11:33 < tilix> but when I use the END key in this script, it ends without saying anything
11:33 < tilix> yes, i`ve used it
11:34 < rxr> what is netcardconfig do'ng ?
11:34 < tilix> it`s a dialog-based fronend to ifconfig
11:34 < tilix> or xdialog
11:34 < rxr> ah - we will have more in our live cd
11:35 < rxr> graphical network editor with profile support (such as uni, home, ...) and an profile switch applet and dial-up applet for KDE
11:35 < rxr> valentin is working on that
11:35 < tilix> great
11:35 < rxr> aside from possible probing if DHCP is available at bootup
11:36 < tilix> I also noticed that during boot-time T2 tries to modprobe nvidia.ko
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11:36 < rxr> and it fails due to rivafb loaded, right ?
11:36 < tilix> yes
11:37 < rxr> I implement blacklist support in hotplug++, so we can blacklist rivafb and radeon (for x86)
11:37 < tilix> will it be in r10?
11:37 < rxr> I'm not sure yet
11:37 < rxr> there is soo much todo - and the deadline so near ...
11:46 < valentin> moin
11:48 < rxr> moin
11:50 < tilix> Network Services: KDE has been built without Zeroconf support.
11:51 < rxr> tilix: until recently we did not had the Apple mdnsresponder
11:51 < rxr> we have it now in trunk aka 2.2
11:51 < rxr> do you use zeroconf ?
11:51 < tilix> no, I`m just testing some parts of the LiveCD
11:54 < tilix> I think that kpersonalizer should be disabled in the liveCD - this gives faster startup.
11:55 < rxr> tilix: I wanted to keep it so the user can choose the language ... ,-)
11:55 < rxr> or we code an own T2Personalizer to only query the language _and_ keyboard layout _as well_ as timezone
11:55 < rxr> the later two are not yet handled ...
11:56 < tilix> juk doesn`t start. Missing: libgstreamer-0.8.so.1
11:56 < rxr> okok - r10 with fixed libraries due to one hour .. ,_)!
11:56 < tilix> will rsync work?
11:56 < rxr> sure
11:57 < tilix> why is OSS by default? No ALSA?
11:57 < rxr> should be both there
11:58 < rxr> of course ALSA is there - I use it since 0.3 or so ,-)
11:58 < tilix> kmix shows only OSS
11:58 < rxr> (OSS is unusable junk)
11:58 < rxr> tilix: can you prepare some document whre you list all that is not as you want it?
11:58 < rxr> so it is not forgotten
11:59 < tilix> before or after r10?
11:59 < rxr> ok, then after r10
11:59 < rxr> does X restart on your box ?
11:59 < tilix> ok
11:59 < rxr> some people complaint it does for r9
11:59 < tilix> no, no problems here
12:02 < tilix> gimp: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
12:02 < rxr> known
12:02 < rxr> I just fixed that
12:02 < tilix> i`ll remove it from the list :)
12:03 < rxr> those missing shared libraries are, due to me used the last desktop build to inject all the package into a new root to create the CD from that
12:03 < rxr> I missed some dependencies ...
12:03 < rxr> this will not happen when one build the whole livecd as it is intended to be build - and not doing some "expert mode" file mix ...
12:04 < rxr> I think I manually rm the rivafb module for r10 ...
12:04 < tilix> will this work for everybody with Nvidia cards?
12:05 < rxr> I thikn so
12:05 < rxr> think even...
12:05 < tilix> any chance of seing KOffice 1.4-beta1 in r10?
12:06 < rxr> rsync will take longer then ,-)
12:07 < tilix> will it download the whole live.squash file?
12:09 < rxr> no the whole - but maybe 50MB or so differ then
12:09 < rxr> I just added it - let's see
12:12 < tilix> could you add the alsaconf script?
12:13 < tilix> it you say alsa is there, it should be there too. But I can`t find it.
12:13 < rxr> I do not know about an alsaconf script - sound like yet another distribution specific hack ,-)
12:13 < rxr> what does it do ?=
12:13 < tilix> i thought it was from the default alsa package (www.alsa.org)?
12:14 < rxr> ah - yes, there is one ...
12:14 < rxr> it does not look like s.th. one would want ...
12:14 < rxr> why do you need it ?
12:15 < tilix> To see why kmix says only OSS available?
12:15 < tilix> btw, if I plug an USB camera, should T2 recognize it like an USB disk?
12:15 < rxr> depends
12:15 < rxr> the new ones yes
12:15 < rxr> older ones are not usb-storage and need to be access in special ways - such as gphoto implements them ...
12:16 < rxr> I'm still working on getting dbus and hal do volume auto mounting
12:16 < tilix> usb-storage: device found at 2
12:16 < rxr> the volume automouting does not work quite right in r9 ...
12:16 < tilix> but there is no fstabgenerate script and it doesn`t appear on fstab.
12:17 < tilix> dmesg:Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
12:17 < tilix> Knoppix says it`s uba1
12:18 < rxr> haha - ub* is near useless and if it works at all pretty slow
12:18 < rxr> it is blacklist in T2 and not build at all during the kernel build ...
12:18 < rxr> usb-storage is what you want for it
12:18 < tilix> so sda is better?
12:18 < rxr> yes
12:18 < rxr> ub* is a new, lightweight reimplementation os usb-storage
12:19 < rxr> it works on nearly no device - and when it does it is dog slow ...
12:19 < tilix> do you need a fstab generation script?
12:19 < rxr> but the dbus / hal stuff does not yet work quite right - I
12:19 < rxr> 'm working on it
12:20 < tilix> so this rebuildfstab script is an old stuff for Knoppix. again :)
12:25 < rxr> hehe
12:25 < rxr> well - we will use dbus/hal ...
12:26 < rxr> it also rewrites the fstab (which I do not find optimal) but I want it working first
12:26 < rxr> more secure and sane implementations can come later
12:40 < rxr> tilix: compared to knoppix how is the startup of T2@Live ?
12:40 < rxr> faster equal or slower =
12:40 < rxr> ? eve
12:40 < rxr> n
12:40 < rxr> damn
12:41 < rxr> tilix: an update to r10 over rsync will require 50MB download
12:42 < rxr> might be 35 minutes over my DSL line ...
12:57 < tilix> rxr: T2 is faster
12:57 < tilix> is r10 ready?
12:57 < rxr> no
12:58 < rxr> I want to test a few bits and possible update some details
12:58 < tilix> I can`t enter the /root directory on my harddisk using sudo.
12:58 < rxr> tilix: any number for knoppix vs. t2 boot time on your hadware?
12:58 < tilix> sudo: cd: command not found
13:01 < tilix> you could update the Tested Hardware page with:
13:01 < tilix> System: AMD Athlon XP 2600+, 512MB, NForce2 board
13:01 < tilix> Graphic boards: nVidia GeForce4 Integrated
13:02 < tilix> Network configurations: NForce2 Integrated LAN card
13:04 < tilix> no, but the hwsetup probing in Knoppix makes it slower.
13:04 < tilix> it adds ~ 5 seconds
13:05 < tilix> also the mkxf86config tool is slow
13:05 < tilix> maybe Knoppix boots ~ 8 sec. slower than T2
13:08 < tilix> have to reset the "switch"
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13:24 < tilix> rxr: found a problem with mcedit
13:25 < tilix> I did: sudo passwd
13:25 < tilix> then su
13:25 < tilix> mcedit /sbin/rocknet
13:25 < tilix> was unable to write ~/.mc/hotlist file, your old hotlist entries were not delet
13:26 < tilix> segmentation fault (core dumped)
13:29 < tilix> i guess /root is not writable
13:32 < rxr> yep - it is not#
13:40 < tilix> hmm. no other "visible" problems
13:55 < tilix> do you know why the END key is not working in dialog-based apps?
14:01 < tilix> another: Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-05-15 15:01 Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page
14:01 < tilix> so no timezone is set?
14:03 < rxr> re
14:03 < rxr> tilix: no - such localization tasks are "to be done"
14:34 < tilix> cu
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15:17 < valentin> what is the default way to create a .la dso ?
15:22 < rxr> they are created by libtool as far as I know
15:22 < rxr> why do you ask about such disgusting things?
15:23 < rxr> I hope you do not want to do that ...
15:24 < valentin> rxr: no, i do not want to .... but i fear i need
15:25 < valentin> i just read some kde makefiles to see what they do
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16:09 < valentin> rehi
16:10 < valentin> just crashed my kde *grrr*
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16:13 < SerWou> hello
16:13 < rxr_> hi
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16:20 < minto> hi all
16:20 < valentin> hi minto
16:22 < rxr> maybe I should give vmware a try
16:22 < rxr> not only to test the hardware detectoin
16:22 < rxr> but I think it is also faster ...
16:28 < rxr> I think the next live test can be make ready soon
16:29 < rxr> including kdm usage to start X with auto login ...
16:29 < rxr> and mostly working dbus/hal - but that is still ongoing.
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16:58 < rxr_> re
17:07 < rxr_> valentin: can you rsync the live cd?
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17:34 < valentin> rxr: ok
17:35 < valentin> rxr: where is r10 ?
17:57 < sparc-kly> r10 is done ?
17:58 < sparc-kly> r9 sucks in my PC
18:28 < valentin> sparc-kly: ts ts ts ...
18:29 < sparc-kly> lol
18:29 < valentin> according to rxr, there is r10
18:29 < valentin> sparc-kly: say "r9 is nice, but it still has a few minor flaws"
18:30 < rxr_> re
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18:31 < rxr> valentin: rsync from my box via rsyn
18:31 < rxr> +c
18:31 < rxr> however there is a x keyboard issue left ...
18:31 < rxr> maybe a few byte updzte will follow in some sec
18:34 < rxr> sparc-kly: there is not yet r10 officially - but can you summarize what sucked for you?
18:37 < rxr> valentin: what was the command to switch the keyboard layout in X?
18:37 < sparc-kly> kde make loop in start
18:42 < valentin> rxr: setxkbmap for example
18:43 < valentin> so should i test r10 or wait for the update ?
18:44 < rxr> test I think
18:44 < rxr> if X still restarts ...
18:44 < rxr> however you get an US key layout and no way to switch - including not switching VTs
18:44 < rxr> I do not know why this is udner review
18:44 < rxr> but Xdetect is only done once now - and kdm start properly - with live auto login ...
18:45 < rxr> so you can log out or shutdown from within KDE
18:45 < rxr> and dbus and hal are up and running
18:45 < rxr> however not yet 100% perfectly
18:45 < rxr> did you code serial mice detect?
18:45 < rxr> or should I do soon ?
18:46 < valentin> rxr: if you have the resources to do so...
18:46 < rxr> no really - but it has to be done ...
18:47 < valentin> btw: is it possible to switch the input device while x is running ?
18:47 < rxr> however maybe after the magazine master
18:47 < rxr> nope
18:47 < valentin> this pnp stuff is a bit confusing
18:47 < rxr> don't think so - at least not with vanilla xorg ...
18:47 < rxr> valentin: I do it ...
18:47 < valentin> ok
18:47 < rxr> btw. I'm in r10-not-yet-final right now
18:47 < valentin> i have other problems here ...
18:48 < valentin> what changed since r9 ?
18:48 < valentin> the respawn problem solved ?
18:48 < rxr> should be
18:48 < rxr> missing libs added
18:48 < rxr> see above ...
18:48 < rxr> X start via kdm
18:48 < rxr> dbus / hal
18:48 < rxr> but not yet perfect
18:49 < rxr> tiny udev tweak (mostly dvb)
18:49 < valentin> nice - then i can play around with that hal stuff to mach networking devices ?
18:49 < rxr> no
18:50 < rxr> don:t waste time - let's do this after all the imporant basic stuff is done
18:50 < rxr> e.g. how many days do we have until gold?
18:50 < rxr> 4 or 5 >?
18:51 < valentin> today is 15 - deadline is 20
18:51 < valentin> so 5
18:52 < valentin> i need to finish the surface today so i can make screenshots for the article monday early morning or so
18:52 < rxr> yep - when do you need to send it over?
18:52 < valentin> they said sometimes on monday
18:53 < valentin> so i guess they want the article in the early afternoon or so
18:59 < valentin> is the official kde channel over here at freenode ?
19:00 < valentin> ok, there is a very crowded channel
19:00 < valentin> maybe there are some developers, too
19:01 < rxr> or kde-devel ,-)
19:01 < rxr> ok - XKB problem solved
19:01 < rxr> was a simple PATH issue ...
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19:01 < rxr> think I can go rebuild my root squash
19:01 < rxr> cu
19:06 < mnemoc> rxr: 8892
19:06 < mnemoc> rxr: ^--- to many different things together :(
19:07 < rxr> re
19:07 < rxr> mnemoc: you want to get our graph high into the air, right ?
19:08 < mnemoc> i wanted to _merge_ riva and radion
19:08 < rxr> this is all architecture/{share,x86} ...
19:08 < rxr> you do not need to merge
19:08 < rxr> because in 2.1 they are blacklisted in rockplug AFAIR
19:08 < mnemoc> uhm
19:09 < rxr> but you can merge most parts anyway if you like
19:09 < rxr> tulip enabling is interesting
19:09 < mnemoc> yes
19:09 < rxr> so you merge the bits and just hand revert the ext2/ext3/nfs bits ...
19:09 < mnemoc> but modular core filesystems is not good for 2.1
19:09 < rxr> I can split it up the next time to raise our graph
19:09 < mnemoc> :)
19:10 < rxr> hoever it just came to my attention today that those bits (I filled in over the last weeks) have not yet been commited, e.g. the fs ones have been there some time now .. ,-)
19:10 < rxr> mnemoc: the livecd starts to rock ,-)
19:10 < mnemoc> s/rock/t2/ :p
19:10 < rxr> too bad the deadline is soon and it will not yet be as polished as I wanted it ,-)
19:11 < mnemoc> deadlines with good products are negociables
19:11 < rxr> yeah - but deadlines are reality in the print magazine business
19:12 < mnemoc> :(
19:12 < mnemoc> postpone the issue :p
19:12 < rxr> btw. I found a release name for T2 @Live 2.2 - what about: "Sophisticated fun" ?
19:12 < mnemoc> nice
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19:13 < mnemoc> enjoyment?
19:14 < mnemoc> what about 'pleasure'?
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19:18 < rxr> valentin: do you rsync ?
19:18 < rxr> 26298 nobody 15 0 3532 2088 1916 S 0.3 0.3 1:04.63 rsync
19:18 < rxr> ok - seems so
19:19 < valentin> rxr: nope
19:20 < rxr> mnemoc: merge cnadidate: -bv
19:20 < rxr> -v
19:20 < rxr> .oO(if CIA is alife)
19:21 < CIA-10> rene * r8893 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/startxdm.sh:
19:21 < CIA-10> * fixed startxdm to set PATH, so the X server finds it's xkb junk
19:21 < CIA-10> when starting ...
19:21 < rxr> alive anyway
19:22 < mnemoc> rxr: -b what? revision?
19:22 < rxr> -v was an arrow - b was stray
19:22 < mnemoc> :D
19:25 < valentin> hi mnemoc
19:26 < valentin> on #kde they just say "no idea how to compile it, use our automake templates" grr....
19:28 < mnemoc> what pathetic answer :(
19:28 < valentin> at least i learned how to use pastebin
19:28 < rxr> what ?
19:29 < valentin> http://pastebin.ca/
19:29 < valentin> some kind of internet copy and paste buffer
19:30 < mnemoc> :)
19:30 < mnemoc> there are lot of paste servers
19:32 < rxr> the next revision of the CD might include all to compile code
19:34 < valentin> mnemoc: but kde folks like to use paste bin
19:35 < rxr> Anjuta IDE 1.2.3
19:35 < rxr> sysstat 6.0.0
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19:35 < CIA-10> amery * r8894 /trunk/package/java/apache-ant/apache-ant.conf: * changed apache-ant to use java-dirtree prefix
19:36 < rxr> I update those
19:42 < mnemoc> 13 not-yet-reviewed commits
19:42 < mnemoc> the rest is part of reference build now
19:42 < mnemoc> i have to go to fathers-in-law
19:42 < mnemoc> cu
19:42 < valentin> cu mnemoc
19:49 < rxr> oh
19:50 < rxr> my C++ file content copy loop has a bug and does not stop ...
19:50 < rxr> but it is not nice from the linux kernel to oops on too much firmware beeing thrown into the sysfs data file ...
20:10 < SerWou> hello guys
20:10 < SerWou> got a question
20:10 < SerWou> i have a remote server
20:11 < SerWou> i had RedHat 9 on it, got hacked, i decided to installed t2 on it remotly
20:11 < SerWou> i chroot.; mont /proc and /mount /dev
20:11 < SerWou> i have a devfs error
20:12 < SerWou> i don't know how to solve this problem
20:12 < SerWou> i can't finish to configure my box with stone
20:15 < SerWou> any ideas or advices ?
20:23 < rxr> what was/is the devfs error ?
20:23 < rxr> what kernel did you use ?
20:24 < CIA-10> rene * r8895 /trunk/package/base/sysstat/ (sysstat.cache sysstat.desc): * updated sysstat (5.1.4 -> 6.0.0)
20:24 < SerWou> mount /dev/
20:24 < SerWou> mount: unknown filesystem type 'devfs'
20:25 < rxr> hm - seems your host kernel does not support devfs ... - where is that kernel from ?
20:25 < rxr> T2 2.2 will use primarily use udev, so this will not be a problem in the future
20:25 < SerWou> 2.6.11-grsecutiy
20:26 < SerWou> 2.6.11.9-grrsec
20:26 < SerWou> but the RH9 crap box got that : 2.4.20-30.9
20:27 < SerWou> i'm pretty lost
20:27 < SerWou> i can't have physical acces to this box :(
20:29 < rxr> well - in order to install you need a devfs kernel :-(
20:29 < rxr> or hack around the utilization in the init and config scripts
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20:29 < SerWou> grub will not work i think
20:31 < rxr> in 2.1 there are some hardcoded devfs configs in the init scripts - I'm unsure if it will boot without devfs
20:31 < rxr> with some tiny local tweaks you will be able to get it up ...
20:32 < rxr> mnemoc: my removal of *.pc files from the dep filter couses regressions ... :-(((
20:32 < SerWou> it's like play with Russian roulette with an automatic gun for me :(
20:33 < rxr> :-(
20:33 < SerWou> yes
20:33 < SerWou> bad
20:33 < SerWou> i tested it at home, it worked fine
20:33 < SerWou> from a rocklinux to t2-server, it was ok
20:34 < rxr> SerWou: the problem seems to be the missing devfs in the currently running kernel
20:34 < SerWou> yes
20:34 < SerWou> i understand
20:34 < CIA-10> rene * r8896 /trunk/package/gnome2/anjuta/anjuta.desc: * updated anjuta (1.2.2 -> 1.2.3)
21:01 < SerWou> thanks rene
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21:53 < valentin> wow - solved my libtool problems (i still do not know why it didn't work before, but however it works now)
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22:41 < rxr> ok - next rsync ...
22:41 < rxr> this should most probably be final r10
22:41 < rxr> yep
22:41 < rxr> looks good
22:47 < rxr> 564772864 May 15 22:23 t2.iso
22:47 < rxr> ^- includes headers and gcc/glibc .a files ...
23:11 < rxr> valentin: could you test r10 til tomorrow
23:21 < CIA-10> rene * r8897 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/startxdm.sh:
23:21 < CIA-10> * reverted r8893 - PATH injection was unneeded, root of the problem
23:21 < CIA-10> was read-only /usr ...
23:56 < valentin> rxr: ok
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