T2 IRC Log: 2005-04-11

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--- Log opened Mon Apr 11 00:00:04 2005
00:10 < valentin> hm, rxr is gone ?
00:11 < valentin> mnemoc: ?
00:17 < valentin> ok, fixed my problem
00:17 < valentin> imo somehow the actual build directory should be stored in the config
00:18 < valentin> it is annoying that every new tag the build breaks because $root changes
00:27 < sepp> i have to sleep - n8 all
00:27 < valentin> gn8
00:34 < CIA-9> valentin * r8169 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: * set kernel output format for sh to zImage because sh-boot gets confused by other formats
01:19 < mnemoc> re
01:40 < keinek> compile something without error is good right?
01:40 < keinek> YIIIIIIIIIIIPY!
01:48 < mnemoc> :)
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02:01 < CIA-9> amery * r8170 /trunk/package/ (12 files in 12 dirs): * injected copyright note to new files
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08:26 < rxr> re
08:27 < minto_> moin
08:32 < rxr> hi minto_
09:07 < CIA-9> rene * r8171 /trunk/package/develop/cmake/ (. cmake.cache cmake.conf cmake.desc): * added cmake (2.0.5)
10:29 -!- valentin [~valentin@port-212-202-41-157.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2
10:29 < valentin> moin
10:29 < valentin> my irssi crashed :(
10:29 < valentin> second time this year
10:29 < valentin> did i miss something ?
10:30 < rxr> hi
10:30 < rxr> don't think os ...
10:30 < rxr> so even
10:30 < rxr> could you take a look if your irssi was exploited ?
10:35 < valentin> well - i fear that could be true, but how will i notice ?
11:00 < CIA-9> rene * r8172 /trunk/package/develop/small/ (. compile.patch small.cache small.conf small.desc): * added small (273)
11:01 < valentin> what is small ?
11:02 < rxr> a small scripting language we talked about
11:02 < rxr> like lua ...
11:06 < rxr> l */*/*.desc | wc -l
11:06 < rxr> 1571
11:37 < rxr> 1574
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12:17 < rxr> re
12:50 < rxr> re
13:04 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.213.222.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
13:04 < sepp> hi
13:04 < minto_> hi Sepp
13:04 * minto_ minto
13:04 < minto_> oeps
13:05 < rxr> hi sepp and minto_
13:05 < minto_> sepp: regarding the gimp plugins, have you considers creating a separate repository for them
13:06 < sepp> rxr: rs_main() in t2-src.conf tar $taropt $pkg-$rockver.tar.bz2; rm -f $pkg-$rockver.tar.bz2
13:06 < sepp> and the tarball is away ...
13:06 < sepp> minto_: no
13:06 < rxr> sepp: the forker rock-src was a bit strange - I cleaned it up and was not sure if the rm -rf is right there ..
13:06 < minto_> I don't know if it is a good idea, just came to my mind.
13:06 < rxr> sepp: if removing the rm leaves the right result remove it ,-)
13:08 < sepp> yes i did this, otherwise the gem is empty
13:08 < rxr> hm - second
13:08 < rxr> the tar should not be in the package - but the deflated tree?
13:08 < rxr> the bug is s.th. else ... AFAICS
13:11 < rxr> rm -f $pkg-$rockver
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13:11 < freed> hi all
13:11 < rxr> hi freed
13:12 < CIA-9> rene * r8173 /trunk/package/base/t2-src/t2-src.conf: * fixed t2-src to leave the extracted file tree around
13:12 < rxr> sepp: could you test the above ?
13:13 < freed> re
13:13 < sepp> rxr: yup
13:17 < sepp> rxr: exit 1?
13:21 < rxr> sepp: ?
13:21 < sepp> why is it the last line of rs_main()
13:23 < sepp> if you delete the last 2 lines it you get a gem with the tree inside
13:23 < rxr> well - fix it as you see fit ,-)
13:26 < CIA-9> sebastian * r8174 /trunk/package/base/t2-src/t2-src.conf: * fixed the fix :)
13:40 < sepp> hui my wacom works out of the box now :)
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13:58 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
13:58 -!- Topic set by valentin [] [Sun Apr 10 22:39:26 2005]
13:58 [Users #t2]
13:58 [ _Ragnar_] [ Davidcc6] [ minto_ ] [ nzg] [ rxr_] [ sparc-kly]
13:58 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc_] [ rxr] [ sepp] [ valentin ]
13:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
13:58 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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14:15 < sepp> ahhh - ls -l / - drwxrwxrwx 3 root root 48 Apr 11 11:36 boot
14:15 < sepp> on the new installed t2
14:16 < valentin> re
14:55 < rxr_> re
14:55 -!- You're now known as rxr
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15:05 < mtr> hi
15:08 < CIA-9> mtr * r8175 /trunk/package/multimedia/vdr/ (23 files):
15:08 < CIA-9> * updated vdr (1.2.6 -> 1.3.23)
15:08 < CIA-9> * added some useful plugins
15:08 < CIA-9> * changed [L] to GPL
15:08 < CIA-9> * added myself to [M]
15:09 < CIA-9> mtr * r8176 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvbsnoop/ (. dvbsnoop.desc): * added dvbsnoop (1.3.77)
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15:16 < CIA-9> mtr * r8177 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/mplayer.conf: * force directfb and v4l support
15:17 < CIA-9> mtr * r8178 /trunk/package/contrib/dfb++/ (. dfb++.desc): * added DFB++ (0.9.22)
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15:28 < CIA-9> rene * r8179 /trunk/package/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
15:28 < CIA-9> * updated minit (0.9.1 -> 0.10) - and fixed to build with glibc/uclibc
15:28 < CIA-9> * updated libowfat (0.21 -> 0.22) - and fixed it for cross builds and
15:28 < CIA-9> moved the priority before minit
15:29 < CIA-9> mtr * r8180 /trunk/package/network/zebra/zebra.desc: * updated zebra (0.94 -> 0.95)
15:30 < CIA-9> rene * r8181 /trunk/target/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
15:30 < CIA-9> * added libowfat to embedded and psion-pda (now needed by minit)
15:30 < CIA-9> * fixed embedded/build_image.sh to remove sbin/init before linking
15:30 < CIA-9> * fixed the embedded minit default/depends to use the new mountall
15:30 < rxr> re
15:30 < rxr> hi mtr !!
15:30 * rxr leaving the uni - cu
15:31 < mtr> hi rxr
15:31 < mtr> cu
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16:54 < rxr> re
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17:02 < keinek> hi
17:04 < sepp> hi keinek
17:13 < mtr> re
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17:57 < rxr> jipie ,-)
17:57 < rxr> embedded now booting up with logins ,-)!
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18:09 < CIA-9> sebastian * r8182 /trunk/package/x11/linuxwacom/ (6 files): * added linuxwacom (0.6.7)
18:23 < rxr> valentin: have you built linux26sh with shquashfs ?
18:23 < rxr> valentin: if you have too much free time, I need someone reviewing, why crosstools when cross built do not built df ...
18:28 < rxr> procps does also built cross ...
18:28 < CIA-9> sebastian * r8183 /trunk/package/audio/eq-xmms/eq-xmms.desc: * fixed a typo in the url
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18:32 < valentin> rxr: not yet
18:32 < valentin> df is ? diskfree ?
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18:32 < rxr> yes
18:32 -!- _jeru [~jeru@p54BFD553.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
18:32 < _jeru> hi *
18:33 < rxr> hi _jeru
18:33 < rxr> jsaw: I updated minit and libowfat today ,-)
18:33 -!- _jeru is now known as jeru
18:33 < rxr> jeru: even ...
18:34 < jeru> hi rxr :) wasn't able to finish my server migration yesterday :/
18:34 < valentin> rxr: not build means "error when compiling" ?
18:34 < rxr> nope - builds fine
18:35 < rxr> just df is skipped due to confiure conditionals ...
18:35 < CIA-9> rene * r8184 /trunk/target/embedded/ (config.in rootfs/etc/profile):
18:35 < CIA-9> * added procps to the embedded target and extended the PATH assignment
18:35 < CIA-9> in the custom etc/profile
18:36 < rxr> -coreutils: bin/df
18:36 < valentin> ok
18:36 < rxr> that is the only prog missing when I diff system flist with the embedded cross flist
18:37 < rxr> the embedded image is now 5MB compressed
18:37 < rxr> 14M rootfs
18:37 < rxr> 5.0M rootfs.squashfs
18:38 < jeru> rxr: finetuning embedded target ? :)
18:38 < rxr> no extending ... ,-)
18:38 < rxr> getting more cross compiling and my embedded PowerPC board up
18:39 < jeru> btw.... does pcre cross-compile ?
18:40 < jeru> it could be quite handy for getting an IDS on a tiny box
18:42 < rxr> jeru: sooner or later we should get passed cross compiling past X ...
18:44 < jeru> rxr: I'll migrate my small bridge target too, but first I've to screw this damn CMS ;)
18:44 < jeru> rxr: now I know why you don't like CMS's :)
18:45 < rxr> 5.1M <- module tools added ...
18:45 < jeru> rxr: quite acceptable ;)
18:47 < rxr> I guess soon I have to review unionfs ,-)
18:48 < jeru> hehe :)
18:48 < jeru> ahhh ... somebody added lua package
18:50 < jeru> ohhh ... it was master rxr itself
18:50 < jeru> rxr: will you give lua a try ?
18:52 < rxr> yep
18:52 < rxr> I also added cmake and small ...
18:56 < jeru> hmmm ... ^ are interesting too
18:57 < valentin> i think i'll drive home now
18:57 < valentin> cu later
18:58 < jeru> cu
18:59 < rxr> the first sucking thing on small is, that it need the yet another make system cmake ...
19:01 < rxr> and AFAIHS has no install target ...
19:06 < jeru> hm... and what are your concerns regarding lua ?
19:07 < _Ragnar_> moin
19:08 < jeru> moin Ragnar
19:08 < _Ragnar_> hi jeru :)
19:09 < jeru> _Ragnar_: how is the live going, over there ? :)
19:09 < _Ragnar_> reasonably well:)
19:10 < jeru> good to hear :)
19:10 < _Ragnar_> how about you?
19:11 < rxr> 5.2M <- curl added
19:11 < jeru> _Ragnar_: also quite well ... just the damn machines ;)
19:29 < rxr> on my iBook the cross build embedded target works great
19:29 < jeru> rxr: :)
19:29 < rxr> only on the embedded board I get lots of noise on the serial terminal ...
19:30 < rxr> lots of "could not chown/chmod tty device"
19:30 < rxr> scrolling by
19:54 < CIA-9> chris * r8185 /trunk/package/printing/gimp-print/gimp-print.desc: * changed [O] to use gnome2-conf.in and not gnome14 anymore to satisfy gimp
20:00 < rxr> hm - damn
20:17 < rxr> hm - ok - fgetty works on a serial terminal
20:17 < rxr> now I only need to know where those amazing number of error messages result from
20:17 < rxr> I think I grab a fresh tea
20:19 < jeru> rxr: fgetty works on serial ? :)
20:19 < rxr> yes - maybe not intentional - but just pointing it to tts/0 gives me a login ...
20:20 < rxr> and without baud control (stays default I think)
20:20 < rxr> but works ...
20:20 < rxr> if you thow me a cable over you can get a login prompt of my PPC board ... ,-)
20:22 < jeru> hehe ... indeed that would be nice :)
20:23 < rxr> maybe the box is up with sshd soon ...
20:23 < rxr>
20:23 < rxr> Linux pda 2.6.11.6 #3 Sat Apr 9 10:18:38 CEST 2005 ppc unknown unknown GNU/Linux
20:28 < CIA-9> rene * r8186 /trunk/target/embedded/rootfs/etc/minit/ (10 files in 5 dirs):
20:28 < CIA-9> * added an additional fgetty on tts/0 instead of agetty (does not
20:28 < CIA-9> work with the fgetty login ...)
20:28 < CIA-9> rene * r8187 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in: * added modutils* and curl to the embedded target - and some comments
20:33 < CIA-9> rene * r8188 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
20:33 < CIA-9> * fixed minit to use localhost as default hostname and let psion-pda
20:33 < CIA-9> set pda and embedded use embedded as default
20:35 < rxr> valentin: I could make the embedded target output a Apple (tm) dist image - for one clikc OSX deletion ... ,-)
20:35 < CIA-9> rene * r8189 /trunk/package/base/minit/compile.patch: * fixed minit for rebuilds (remove FIFOs first ...)
20:35 < rxr> double click ok install onto your primary OSX volume - that would rock *g*
21:08 < rxr> ok folks:
21:08 < rxr> T2 based embedded system. http://www.t2-project.org/
21:08 < rxr> 12:26:42 2005-02-03 -- 0 users online -- line [tts/0].
21:08 < rxr> Welcome to embedded (T2 - Kernel 2.6.11.6).
21:08 < rxr> -
21:08 < rxr> embedded login: root
21:08 < rxr> root's password:
21:08 < rxr> utmpfd!=4 || wtmpfd!=5
21:08 < rxr> password checked
21:08 < rxr> -sh-3.00#
21:09 < rxr> # free
21:09 < rxr> total used free shared buffers cached
21:09 < rxr> Mem: 127152 5752 121400 0 872 1596
21:09 < rxr> -/+ buffers/cache: 3284 123868
21:09 < rxr> Swap: 0 0 0
21:11 < _Ragnar_> O_O
21:11 < _Ragnar_> what hardware?
21:12 < rxr> that is a 360Mhz PPC board with 2MB L2 cache and 128MB ECC RAM
21:12 < _Ragnar_> :)
21:13 < sepp_> can i crosscompile the emb. target, so that i can boot of a cf card and get a working ssh?
21:13 < rxr> yep
21:13 < sepp_> cool
21:13 < rxr> I cross build the above on my Athlon
21:13 < _Ragnar_> =)
21:14 < _Ragnar_> niiice
21:14 < sepp_> i will try my zaurus tomorrow
21:14 < rxr> faster build times and edit compile cycle than on either my 375Mhz RS6k or my 800Mhz iBook ...
21:15 < _Ragnar_> =)
21:16 < rxr> in fact the embedded targed is implemented to always cross build only ...
21:16 < rxr> it is my cross compile every testbed - it only will built stage 1
21:16 < rxr> and marks all the selected packages stage 1 only ...
21:16 < rxr> the psion-pda target builds in 45 minutes on my athlon
21:16 < _Ragnar_> is it hardware-specific?
21:17 < rxr> including cross gcc and kernel ...
21:17 < rxr> nope - select whatever you like
21:17 < rxr> however it is bare minimal
21:18 < _Ragnar_> that's okay
21:19 < _Ragnar_> we might be going into HID development later this year, and it's nice to see that there's already a framework :)
21:20 < rxr> human interface device?
21:23 < _Ragnar_> yes
21:25 < valentin> re
21:25 < sepp_> i like my now working hid :)
21:26 < _Ragnar_> ;)
21:27 < sepp_> the default linux / xorg wacom support is really strange
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21:48 < sepp_> someone around who has gnome2 installed?
21:49 < sepp_> i still have the gtk bug *grummel*
22:09 < CIA-9> rene * r8190 /trunk/target/embedded/ (6 files):
22:09 < CIA-9> * enabled the linux26 kernel for the embedded target and modified the
22:09 < CIA-9> kernel config to disable all the multimedia modules
22:09 < CIA-9> * disabled the old modutils for now
22:09 < CIA-9> * applied copyright patch
22:10 < sepp_> hmm i guess no one is using this crap :(
22:10 < rxr> sepp_: yeah - seems so ,-)
22:10 < rxr> I have gnome on my boxes - but nearly never start it ...
22:11 < sepp_> shit heisenbug in gtk+
22:11 < sepp_> i have 2 apps i packed both the same bug
22:12 < sepp_> if i enable debug symbols in gtk+ the bug disappears
22:15 < rxr> you don't have the ld-as-needed enabled ?
22:16 < sepp_> no
22:16 < sepp_> not enabled
22:16 < sepp_> i had the bug in wired with wxw 25 and now in a gaim plugin - grrrrr
22:17 < sepp_> i dont like gaim but the plugin is nice
22:18 < sepp_> a big brother unfriendly crypto for gaim ...
22:18 < rxr> ,-)
22:19 < sepp_> like the cryptophone, everytime a new key
22:20 < sepp_> unlike gpg ...
22:23 < sepp_> my conclusion - otto developed gtk+
22:32 < rxr> otto ?
22:32 < rxr> ah - yeah
22:32 < rxr> hm - the mac floppy driver builds on my full desktop target on ppc - but not in my embedded config ?
22:32 * rxr confused ...
22:32 < sepp_> otto s. our new dictator
22:33 < rxr> ah - that one ,-)
22:33 < sepp_> our == german
22:33 < rxr> you fear the extra heli observation?
22:33 < rxr> you are a sprayer, he ?
22:33 < sepp_> i fear orwells ideas
22:34 < sepp_> or bad (but right) visions
22:34 < rxr> yes - /me too
22:36 < sepp_> i O'ed it, should i commit it and hope that someone understands the gtk+ thing?
22:37 < rxr> you mean disabled by default ?
22:37 < sepp_> yes
22:37 < rxr> yeah - go and commit it ...
22:37 < sepp_> it compiles but does not work
22:37 < rxr> or even X it ...
22:37 < sepp_> because of the heisenbug
22:37 < rxr> so someone get's motivated to hunt the bug ...
22:38 < sepp_> hehe
22:38 < sepp_> gtk makes me sick
22:38 * rxr too ...
22:40 < CIA-9> sebastian * r8191 /trunk/package/network/libotr/ (. libotr.desc): * added libotr (2.0.1)
22:40 < CIA-9> sebastian * r8192 /trunk/package/network/gaim-otr/ (. gaim-otr.desc): * added gaim-otr (2.0.1)
22:40 < sepp_> i [P] X'ed it
22:40 < sepp_> maybe someone understands the gtk+ thing
22:41 < CIA-9> rene * r8193 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/kernel.conf.m4:
22:41 < CIA-9> * do not enable the mac floppy driver any longer - our target audience
22:41 < CIA-9> does not really need it and it occaitionally fails to build in some
22:41 < CIA-9> bizzare kernel configs ...
22:43 < sepp_> the otr paper is really nice
22:43 < sepp_> together with tor ...
22:44 < rxr> Ubuntu harmful for Debian
22:44 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com
22:45 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10256
22:48 < sepp_> i love t2 ;)
22:48 < sepp_> thanks a lot for this nice linux
22:51 < rxr> sepp_: good to hear ,-) thanks for helping keeping it "spinning" ;-)
22:52 < rxr> jeru: I guess overlaying the whole embedded system's filesystem makes most sense, right ?
22:52 < rxr> like /mnt/root /mnt/dynamic-config and then mount -t unionfs none / -o dirs=/mnt/root:/mnt/dynamic-config
22:53 < sepp_> i am proud if i can help with my silly patches ;)
22:54 < rxr> they are not silly 8-)
22:54 < rxr> e.g. we need a rich package set to keep attracting people
22:56 < sepp_> but this will not work with this name and site
22:56 < sepp_> i like art but i had nothing in my mind about t2
22:56 < sepp_> the name really sucks - sorry
22:57 < rxr> hehe - well as you might already read somewhere, it was just the name I grabbed for the svn repository when I /had to fork rock/ - it got too known to change it now ...
22:57 < rxr> at least that was the consensus so far
22:57 < sepp_> i made some sketches about a logo but this name ...
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22:58 < rxr> maybe just don't use the name as base - the linux, freebsd, debian, suse, ... logo also have nothing to do with the name
22:58 < sepp_> there was a discussion on the rock ml about 2.1 or whatever - open rock inspired me
22:59 < rxr> jeru: maybe even this would work: mount -t unionsfs none / -o dirs=/mnt/dynamic-config:/
23:01 < rxr> jeru: valentin: Unionfs Snapshots
23:01 < rxr> With the unionctl utility, Unionfs's branch configuration can change on the fly. New branches can be added anywhere in the union, branches can be removed and read-write branches can be marked read-only (or vice versa). This flexibility allows Unionfs to create filesystem snapshots. In this example, we use Unionfs to create a snapshot of /usr while installing a new package:
23:02 < sepp_> rxr: with open rock as name i saw a penguin grilling a (openbsd)fish on a vulcano in my mind, but i found nithing with t2
23:02 < rxr> wow - that is really beautiful
23:02 < rxr> well - we indeed need better promotion
23:02 < rxr> if we can not come up with a decent logo we might need to change the name indeed
23:03 < rxr> despite that the german telekom might become upset ...
23:03 < rxr> sepp_: if you make a fantastic logo for an alternative name, there is not much stopping us from renaming ...
23:03 < sepp_> rxr: good to know
23:04 < sepp_> i will try to find a name / logo
23:04 < sepp_> the only thing i had in mind was a 3d gcc taking tarballs and outputting gems
23:05 < rxr> good prmotion is really sensetive for me - and what was and is one of ROCKs biggest issues
23:05 < rxr> sepp_: gems will one day be gone btw ...
23:05 < sepp_> yes
23:05 < rxr> we will convert back to traditional tarballs - since gems gain us nothing but complexetiy ...
23:05 < sepp_> but it was my only t2 idea
23:06 < rxr> :-(
23:06 < sepp_> a belt conveyor with src on one side and obj's on the other
23:06 < sepp_> and the gcc monster in the middle
23:11 < CIA-9> rene * r8194 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/kernel.conf.m4:
23:11 < CIA-9> * removed the just commented MAC_FLOPPY and comment at all, since the
23:11 < CIA-9> this way enabled module builds fine for the "bizarre" config
23:16 < sepp_> hmm i have in mind a leading penguin with a tree over shoulder (at the end a glass with the openbsd fish) wearing a hurd flag - what do you think ?
23:17 < sepp_> a tree with nil nodes
23:19 < rxr> sound interesting ,-)
23:20 -!- sparc-kly|univ| [~universit@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has joined #t2
23:22 < sepp_> i will make some sketches tomorrow
23:23 < sepp_> my intuos2 works ...
23:28 < sepp_> i see tux with his 2 friends on a long road to finish build-target ;)
23:33 < _Ragnar_> re
23:33 < rxr> sepp_: maybe s.th. like that makes more a poster than the tiny slick logo ?
23:33 < rxr> hi _Ragnar_
23:34 < sepp_> tux with a wood over his shoulder in the tree, in the tree a aquarium with the openbsd fish holding a hurd flag
23:34 < sepp_> guiding to the t2 castle?
23:35 < sepp_> on a hill
23:35 < rxr> hehe
23:36 < sepp_> you like/understand the picture ?
23:36 < rxr> yep - but it makes more of a poster - than the tiny logo, no ?
23:36 < rxr> like the OpenBSD posters
23:37 < sepp_> i will test some sketches
23:37 < rxr> ok - you get our PR poster chief ,-)
23:37 < sepp_> at least i had some good ideas
23:39 < sepp_> hehe
23:44 < rxr> cool the unionfs tools cleanly cross build ...
23:45 < rxr> and squashfs also installing into the tools dir as requested by the build system
23:45 * rxr happy ...
23:47 < CIA-9> rene * r8195 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in:
23:47 < CIA-9> * added unionfs and squashfs-tools to the embedded target - unionfs
23:47 < CIA-9> tools are cross build into the new system - and squasfs installs
23:47 < CIA-9> as stage0 build into the tools dir - Squashfs also patches the
23:47 < CIA-9> kernel and unionfs extends the kernel with and additional module.
23:51 < sepp_> i need to sleep - n8 all
23:52 < rxr> cu sepp_
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