T2 IRC Log: 2005-02-12
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--- Log opened Sat Feb 12 00:00:28 2005
00:19 < mnemoc> commit loop ended
00:20 < mnemoc> 1416 builds total, 1207 completed fine, 73 with errors.
00:20 < mnemoc> looot of fixed todo :\
00:21 < mnemoc> fixes*
00:21 * mnemoc going home
00:21 < mnemoc> bbl
00:22 < _Ragnar_> kay ttyl
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00:59 < mnemoc> re
01:17 < mnemoc> great! grepmail calls cpan from inside it's makefile :\
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01:31 < CIA-7> amery * r6370 /trunk/package/games/torcs/ (torcs.conf torcs.desc):
01:31 < CIA-7> * updated torcs (1.2.2 -> 1.2.3)
01:31 < CIA-7> * improved torcs to use match_source_files
01:33 < mnemoc> wb CIA-7
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05:49 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | CIA, don't ever leave us again!
05:49 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Wed Jan 12 03:04:43 2005]
05:49 [Users #t2]
05:49 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ mnemoc] [ Postal|Away] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
05:49 [ CIA-7 ] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ praenti ] [ rxr_]
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06:02 < CIA-7> amery * r6371 /trunk/package/network/yp-tools/yp-tools.desc: * updated yp-tools (2.8 -> 2.9)
06:03 < CIA-7> amery * r6372 /trunk/package/network/openslp/openslp.desc: * updated openslp (1.2.0 -> 1.3.0)
06:03 < CIA-7> amery * r6373 /trunk/package/network/ncftp/ncftp.desc: * updated ncftp (3.1.6 -> 3.1.8)
06:09 < CIA-7> amery * r6374 /trunk/package/network/ircii/ircii.desc: * updated ircii (20030709 -> 20040820)
06:11 < CIA-7> amery * r6375 /trunk/package/network/minicom/minicom.desc: * changed CV-URL for minicom
06:12 < CIA-7> amery * r6376 /trunk/package/network/ypserv/ypserv.desc: * updated ypserv (2.12.1 -> 2.14)
06:14 < CIA-7> amery * r6377 /trunk/package/multimedia/flac/flac.desc: * updated flac (1.1.0 -> 1.1.2)
06:21 < CIA-7> amery * r6378 /trunk/package/network/arping/arping.desc: * updated arping (2.03 -> 2.05)
06:24 < CIA-7> amery * r6379 /trunk/package/network/ettercap/ettercap.desc: * updated ettercap (NG-0.7.0_pre1 -> NG-0.7.2)
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07:32 < rxr_> moin
07:32 < madtux> hi
07:32 < madtux> :)
07:37 < rxr_> hi madtux
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11:15 < mipe> oh damm,x86_64 cross cant produce 32bit code
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11:18 < freddy> morjen
11:19 < rxr> hi
11:19 < freddy> hi rxr
11:19 < rxr> mipe: the native compiler can not either yet
11:20 < rxr> mipe: this is why we have and need the glibc32 package - to have the 32bit c library ...
11:20 < rxr> just that it does not yet build ...
11:20 < mipe> rxr:yep but glibc32 doenst build because of that
11:20 < mipe> rxr:cant link with libgcc
11:20 < rxr> huh?
11:20 < rxr> mipe: have you enabled multilib support in the config ?
11:21 < mipe> rxr:i made linux-header to produce header files like in sparc, yes multilib enabled
11:21 < rxr> hm
11:22 < rxr> oh - yes the stage0 compiler is built with mulitlib explicitly disabled ...
11:22 < rxr> mipe: can you try to copy the multilib conditoinal from the gcc's custmain function to the stage0 function
11:23 < rxr> and remove the --disable-multilib hardcoded in there ?
11:24 < mipe> i have done that, but something else is wrong,going src.glibc32....... and ./debug.sh gcc -v and x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-gcc -v produce segfault
11:24 < rxr> hm
11:26 < mipe> also in build-tools FLWRAPPER_LIBC=$( echo $xroot/lib/libc.* ) returns multible hits,and it complains about it, safe to ignore it?
11:27 < rxr> what are the matches ?
11:29 < mipe> "/lib/libc.a /lib/libc.so /lib/libc.so.6"
11:29 < rxr> hm
11:29 < rxr> no - that is not good
11:29 < rxr> what system is that gentoo ?
11:29 < mipe> rubyx
11:30 < rxr> ru what ?
11:30 < mipe> ls -la /lib/libc.*
11:30 < mipe> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Feb 5 22:19 /lib/libc.a -> /pkg/glibc.1/lib/libc.a
11:30 < mipe> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Feb 5 22:19 /lib/libc.so -> /pkg/glibc.1/lib/libc.so
11:30 < mipe> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Feb 5 22:20 /lib/libc.so.6 -> /pkg/glibc.1/lib/libc.so.6
11:30 < rxr> hm
11:30 < mipe> rubyx holds all packages in /pkg/ and makes symlinks to /lib /bin,etc...
11:30 < rxr> mom phoning
11:43 < rxr> can you change the globbing to libc*so* ? and add a head -n 1 ;-) ?
11:44 < mipe> sure
11:50 * mipe off to do galileo law of free fall presentation,bbl
12:12 < rxr> cu
12:16 < rxr> so - me ordered a Konica Minolta magicolor 2430 DL ColorLaser
12:39 < rxr> hm - the windows usb subsystem seems to be rather instable
12:39 < rxr> uplugging the scanenr needs a system reboot, since the root hub is dead then...
13:55 < rxr> hm - when I boot this crappy windows with the scanner attached the usb port is dead
13:55 < rxr> what an operating system ...
14:06 < rxr> hm - now it showed coping a 84MB file to my samba share takes 14508742 minutes or so ?
14:16 < mipe> back to glibc32 work ;)
14:16 < mipe> ups :(
14:18 < mnemoc> moin
14:19 < mipe> hi mnemoc
14:19 < mnemoc> hi mipe
14:20 < mnemoc> rxr: head wont work because is an echo
14:20 < rxr> is an echo what ?
14:20 < rxr> *g*
14:20 < mnemoc> FLWRAPPER_LIBC
14:21 < mnemoc> but... that's $xroot, and xroot always supose to point to our sandbox
14:22 < rxr> I can not follow yes
14:22 < rxr> yet even
14:22 < mnemoc> ok
14:26 < mipe> rxr:should we build cross gcc on x86_64,one for x86_64 and one for i386?
14:27 < rxr> no
14:27 < rxr> one biaarch gcc that can output 64 and 32 bit assembly ...
14:28 < rxr> controlled with -m64 (default) and -m32
14:28 < mipe> hmm,yeah,but mine wont build with -m32 and i cant find the reason its not....
14:28 < rxr> it can not link executables, right ?
14:29 < mipe> yeah
14:29 < rxr> then just the 32bit libc is missing ...
14:29 < rxr> and your gcc is ok
14:30 < mipe> hmm... *testing*
14:45 < mipe> hmm,yeah but glibc32 doesnt build because it cant find proper libgcc.a
14:45 < mipe> to link with
14:47 < rxr> hm
14:48 < CIA-7> amery * r6380 /trunk/package/database/ (mysqlcc/mysqlcc.desc sqlite2/): * added sqlite2 as a copy of sqlite (1/2)
14:49 < mnemoc> dammit
14:49 < mnemoc> what is mysqlcc doing on that commit
14:50 < CIA-7> amery * r6381 /trunk/package/database/sqlite2/ (sqlite.cache sqlite.desc sqlite2.cache sqlite2.desc): * added sqlite2 as copy of sqlite2 (2/2)
14:55 < CIA-7> amery * r6382 /trunk/package/database/sqlite2/sqlite2.desc: * downdated sqlite2a (3.0.8 -> 2.8.15), due to compatibility issues
16:05 < CIA-7> amery * r6383 /trunk/package/base/file/file.desc: * updated file (4.12 -> 4.13)
16:09 < rxr> ,-)
16:11 < mnemoc> rxr: when you get _available_ ping me :)
16:43 < rxr> mnemoc: can you already write it down here
16:43 < rxr> I can read it while waiting for some testscan or so ..
16:44 < mnemoc> :)
16:50 < mnemoc> outch
16:50 < mnemoc> # /etc/network/rocknet default ppp0 down 2>&1 | less
16:50 < mnemoc> Interface / profile matched: ppp0(default)
16:50 < mnemoc> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out): 0x080531d8 ***
16:50 < mnemoc> /etc/network/rocknet: line 107: 30492 Abortado iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
16:50 < mnemoc> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080537f8 ***
16:50 < mnemoc> /etc/network/rocknet: line 107: 30505 Abortado iptables -F firewall_ppp0
16:50 < mnemoc> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08053090 ***
16:50 < mnemoc> /etc/network/rocknet: line 107: 30506 Abortado iptables -D INPUT -i ppp0 -j firewall_ppp0
16:51 < mnemoc> iptables: Too many links
16:51 < mnemoc> Unknown profile: 'default'
16:51 < rxr> oo
16:56 < mnemoc> rxr: i wanted to talk mainly about the announcement of beta3 and iso-s, linux26/nvidia (custmain ignored by build_package) and the problem on TOOLCHAIN detected by 1-gettext linked to host /usr/lib/libgettext-*.so
16:57 < rxr> yeah - well
16:57 < rxr> I work on t2 after aproc 18.00
16:57 < rxr> fixing the last bugs ...
16:58 < rxr> in -beta3 dialog or so might be broken I had problems with stone
16:58 < rxr> but it awaits an review
16:59 < mnemoc> i had no problems with beta3/dialog during installation (only pam_unix) or runtime
16:59 < mnemoc> i'll bother you in one hour (18.00) :)
17:05 < CIA-7> amery * r6384 /trunk/package/mail/pine/ (hotfix.patch pine.conf pine.desc): * updated pine (4.58 -> 4.62)
17:20 < CIA-7> amery * r6392 /trunk/package/database/mysqlcc/ (fixed_mysql_4.1.patch qmakespec.patch):
17:20 < CIA-7> * updated mysqlcc (0.8.10 -> 0.9.4) commited on revision 6380 by mistake
17:20 < CIA-7> * fixed mysqlcc to build against mysql 4.1
17:45 * mnemoc has 157 packages locally modified (updated mainly) having sweeped alphabeticly until packages/network
17:46 < mnemoc> BUT 1417 builds total, 1301 completed fine, 85 with errors.
17:47 * mnemoc needs some beta3-or-like reference to know if those 85 are ERR->ERR or OK->ERR
17:57 < rxr> this is a full reference on your side ?
17:57 < mnemoc> jsaw: hi, why did you removed the controversial stuff from your TODO?
17:57 < mnemoc> yep
17:58 < rxr> the numbers look good
17:58 < rxr> I think my last reference had more errors ...
17:58 < mnemoc> that's cool :)
17:58 < mnemoc> i thought i had doubled it or s.th like that
17:59 < rxr> no definetly not
17:59 < rxr> we still had many gcc-3.4 issues on toy stuff left ...
17:59 < rxr> + other never compiling toy stuff
17:59 < rxr> or long broken toy stuff (like broken since gcc-3.0 ...
17:59 < rxr> )
18:05 < mnemoc> CIA-7 is very lazy today
18:06 < mnemoc> rxr: iptables updates was reverted, and noted on wiki. (http://wiki.t2-project.org/index.cgi?21PendingUpdates)
18:06 < mnemoc> update*
18:10 < mnemoc> rxr: does dash have the history you missed on ash?
18:10 < rxr> ohem - we do not have dash, have we?
18:11 < mnemoc> afaik we do
18:11 < rxr> need to test it *g*
18:12 < mnemoc> :)
18:40 < mipe> ewww,gettext fails
18:40 < mipe> "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
18:41 < mnemoc> /lib/cpp? what distro is that?
18:42 < mipe> rubyx,why /lib/cpp?, googling this returns same type of errors on mandrake,gentoo,...
18:43 < rxr> mipe: my /lib/cpp works ...
18:43 < mipe> i dont have /lib/cpp
18:43 < mnemoc> stage 1?
18:43 < mipe> yeah
18:44 < mnemoc> ln -s `type -p cpp` /lib/cpp
18:44 < mnemoc> .oO( why is it trying to use _that_ cpp??? )o
18:45 < mipe> so its just normal symlink to /usr/bin/cpp...
18:46 < mipe> damm i hate physics homework :(
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18:53 < jeru> hi folks
18:54 < mnemoc> hi jeru
18:54 < jeru> how things are going on ? :-)
18:55 < mnemoc> fine.... building, updating and installing some machines as insane
18:55 < mnemoc> and you?
18:56 < jeru> right now I'm doing the same
18:56 < mnemoc> :)
18:57 < jeru> do you have succesfully build e2fstools from trunk?
18:57 < jeru> had problems bulding it yesterday
18:58 < mnemoc> mom
18:58 < mnemoc> are you on head?
18:59 < mnemoc> yes, it built here
18:59 < mipe> heh,e2fsprogs failed
18:59 < mnemoc> can you publish build logs?
18:59 < mnemoc> http://
19:00 < mipe> who?
19:00 < mnemoc> any of you :)
19:00 < mnemoc> it built here, and i would like to know why it failed to you (both)
19:01 < mipe> it doesnt find header file,thats why it failed here
19:01 < mnemoc> what header file?
19:01 < mipe> ext2_err.h
19:02 < mnemoc> Scheduling package 'e2fsprogs' for rebuild ...
19:03 < mipe> huoh,rubyx is ***,having /include in root containing that file
19:03 < mnemoc> your rubyx is highly _odd_
19:04 < mnemoc> mipe: on Config you can set gcc forced options like a -I/include :)
19:04 < mipe> yeah,have to do it....
19:04 < mnemoc> i'll die some minutes to test my new router, brb
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19:08 < jeru> was in the kitchen, have to eat some ... or I will die ;-)
19:17 < rxr> hi jeru !
19:18 < jeru> hi rxr!
19:22 < jeru> rxr: all exams finished ? ;-)
19:22 < rxr> well - for now yes ...
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19:22 < rxr> how is life over there ?
19:22 < jeru> me too :-)
19:28 < jeru> rxr: I'm quite well ... and you
19:30 < CIA-7> jeru * r6395 /trunk/package/network/clockspeed/ (6 files): * added DJB's clockspeed package (0.62)
19:31 < rxr> oh - yeah - thanks, mostly too
19:32 < rxr> well - high tech - no matter what scanner is plugged into my recent innovation: a windows test box, if it is pluged in at bootup the usb controler is dead
19:36 < rxr> hm - and one of the scanenrs does not yet work with the orig. windows driver at all so far ...
19:37 < rxr> somehow I have the feeling my driver in conjunction with the Linux or OSX USB stack is magnitudes more stable ...
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19:40 < mnemoc> re
19:41 < jeru> mnemoc: welcome back ;-) does your new "toy" work ?
19:41 < mnemoc> yep :)
19:41 < jeru> :-)
19:41 < mnemoc> i have a beta4 router running :)
19:41 < rxr> new toy - I missed s.th. ... ;-)
19:42 < mnemoc> nope, i just installed a _new_ 386 as router here
19:43 < rxr> I wonder how windows can be used in production use ... - considerig the percentage of the stuff working in it over here ...
19:44 < jeru> mnemoc: what target? router or mnemosyne?
19:44 < mnemoc> mnemosyne
19:45 < jeru> :)
19:45 < rxr> damn - my body demands food
19:45 < rxr> after the next windows reboot i'm finally out getting some ...
19:45 < jeru> I had already ...
19:45 < mnemoc> rxr: 1417 builds total, 1330 completed fine, 87 with errors.
19:46 < mnemoc> rxr: lot of stuff/updates to fix
19:46 < rxr> 87 looks quite good
19:46 < jeru> is this for beta3?
19:46 < mnemoc> HEAD+157 pending updates
19:47 < rxr> ,-)!
19:47 < jeru> ohh ... sh*t ;)
19:47 < mnemoc> i have sweeped until packages/network
19:49 < jeru> mnemoc: you should rename yourself 'workhorse' ;-)
19:49 < rxr> boa - after 5 reboots and a driver reinstall the scanner scanned the first image ...
19:49 * rxr impressed
19:49 < mnemoc> :)
19:51 < rxr> it wasts my previous time - I do not find it that funny ....
19:52 < mnemoc> *hiddengrin*
19:52 < rxr> hm - driver does not even work correctly ...
19:53 < jeru> rxr: you know the german windows admin slogan: 'Jeder boot tut gut' ;)
19:54 < mnemoc> jeru: what do you use clockspeed for?
19:54 < jeru> adjusting clock and synchronizing time in a network
19:55 < mnemoc> problems with ntpd?
19:55 < jeru> yes! I don't like it ;)
19:56 < jeru> clockspeed is also quite usefull because you don't have to sync so much
19:57 < jeru> it's very accurate (like DJB himself ;)
19:58 < mnemoc> :)
19:58 < mnemoc> i have never tried it
20:00 < jeru> but I wasn't quite shure about the right package location, but because it has a small sntp daemon I decided to place it into network
20:00 < mnemoc> ack
20:00 < mnemoc> what do you use for dhcpd?
20:01 < jeru> for now the the one from ISC :-(
20:02 < rxr> btw: Toll of the day: usbsnoop ,-)
20:02 < rxr> http://usbsnoop.sf.net or so ...
20:04 < mnemoc> usb sniffer??
20:06 < mnemoc> jeru: have you tried udhcp?
20:06 < jeru> not yet
20:06 < mnemoc> brb
20:08 < jeru> I will try it, but at home I don't use dhcp anyway
20:09 < mnemoc> re
20:15 < jeru> mnemoc: what size has your new syne router image?
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20:16 < mnemoc> jeru: it's fat
20:16 < mnemoc> i installed everything
20:17 < jeru> so there is no way to get it on a CF
20:17 < mnemoc> CF?
20:17 < jeru> Compact Flash
20:17 < mnemoc> sure
20:17 < mnemoc> removing gcc, and friends
20:17 < mnemoc> the local copy of t2-trunk
20:17 < jeru> ok
20:18 < mnemoc> documentation, blah blah....
20:18 < jeru> i see ;)
20:18 < mnemoc> it's around 600M installed now
20:20 < jeru> I'll start building a new mnemosyne target right now ;)
20:20 < mnemoc> :p
20:21 < mnemoc> i'll commit some changes to rocknet's ppp.sh in same minutes
20:21 < mnemoc> supervised ppp :)
20:22 < mnemoc> if runit.sh module is found
20:22 < jeru> good man ;-)
20:22 < rxr> .oO
20:22 < mnemoc> rxr: _if_ runit.sh is found
20:22 < mnemoc> and runit is an O package
20:24 < mnemoc> i use $CANUSESERVICE=1 env var (exported by runit.sh module) to condition it, and most of the job is done by runit.sh
20:53 < mnemoc> rxr: if you want to review, 6396 (runit.sh) 6397 (ppp.sh).
21:06 < rxr> no - I trust in you
21:07 < mnemoc> :o thanks :)
21:09 < rxr> mnemoc: so - due to scanner hacking we are already 3 hours off the 19.oo conference ... :-(
21:11 < mnemoc> :(
21:12 < mnemoc> do your stuff, don't worry.
21:15 < rxr> I do my stuff and worry ;-)
21:15 < mnemoc> :p
21:24 < mnemoc> rxr: from pppd Makefile:
21:24 < mnemoc> DESTDIR = /usr/local
21:24 < mnemoc> BINDIR = $(DESTDIR)/sbin
21:24 < mnemoc> nice, isn't it?
21:24 < rxr> well - not really ...
21:24 < rxr> as long as it does not hardcode pathes into the binary, .. it is easily work aroundable ...
21:24 < mnemoc> i was ironic :\
21:25 < mnemoc> yep
21:25 < rxr> I know that you have been ironic ,-)
21:26 < mnemoc> :)
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22:51 < CIA-9> jeru * r6404 /trunk/package/network/clockspeed/ (errno.patch head_n.patch t2_fixes.patch time_h.patch):
22:51 < CIA-9> * merged separate patch files to 1 patch
22:51 < CIA-9> * adjusted installation path for
22:51 < CIA-9> 'leapsec.dat' and 'adjust' fifo to '/var/lib/clockspeed'
22:54 < mnemoc> :)
22:55 < mnemoc> i have to go.... back is some hours
23:03 < jeru> bye
23:07 * rxr in bed in some seconds ...
23:08 < jeru> rxr: what's wrong ? in bed ?
23:09 < jeru> have a good sleep :)
23:10 < rxr> well - hacked scanner the wohle day ...
23:10 < rxr> did 3 releases of our osx driver I think ...
23:10 < jeru> hmm ... ok ... :)
23:11 < jeru> sleep well ... think we'll read us tomorrow ... bye bye
23:13 < rxr> looking forward to see you around ,-)
23:13 < jeru> ack
23:18 * jeru is back
23:20 < rxr> ok - release mail out -> me in bed
23:20 < rxr> n8 all
23:21 < jeru> good n8
--- Log closed Sun Feb 13 00:00:28 2005
00:19 < mnemoc> commit loop ended
00:20 < mnemoc> 1416 builds total, 1207 completed fine, 73 with errors.
00:20 < mnemoc> looot of fixed todo :\
00:21 < mnemoc> fixes*
00:21 * mnemoc going home
00:21 < mnemoc> bbl
00:22 < _Ragnar_> kay ttyl
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00:59 < mnemoc> re
01:17 < mnemoc> great! grepmail calls cpan from inside it's makefile :\
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01:31 < CIA-7> amery * r6370 /trunk/package/games/torcs/ (torcs.conf torcs.desc):
01:31 < CIA-7> * updated torcs (1.2.2 -> 1.2.3)
01:31 < CIA-7> * improved torcs to use match_source_files
01:33 < mnemoc> wb CIA-7
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06:02 < CIA-7> amery * r6371 /trunk/package/network/yp-tools/yp-tools.desc: * updated yp-tools (2.8 -> 2.9)
06:03 < CIA-7> amery * r6372 /trunk/package/network/openslp/openslp.desc: * updated openslp (1.2.0 -> 1.3.0)
06:03 < CIA-7> amery * r6373 /trunk/package/network/ncftp/ncftp.desc: * updated ncftp (3.1.6 -> 3.1.8)
06:09 < CIA-7> amery * r6374 /trunk/package/network/ircii/ircii.desc: * updated ircii (20030709 -> 20040820)
06:11 < CIA-7> amery * r6375 /trunk/package/network/minicom/minicom.desc: * changed CV-URL for minicom
06:12 < CIA-7> amery * r6376 /trunk/package/network/ypserv/ypserv.desc: * updated ypserv (2.12.1 -> 2.14)
06:14 < CIA-7> amery * r6377 /trunk/package/multimedia/flac/flac.desc: * updated flac (1.1.0 -> 1.1.2)
06:21 < CIA-7> amery * r6378 /trunk/package/network/arping/arping.desc: * updated arping (2.03 -> 2.05)
06:24 < CIA-7> amery * r6379 /trunk/package/network/ettercap/ettercap.desc: * updated ettercap (NG-0.7.0_pre1 -> NG-0.7.2)
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07:32 < rxr_> moin
07:32 < madtux> hi
07:32 < madtux> :)
07:37 < rxr_> hi madtux
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11:15 < mipe> oh damm,x86_64 cross cant produce 32bit code
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11:18 < freddy> morjen
11:19 < rxr> hi
11:19 < freddy> hi rxr
11:19 < rxr> mipe: the native compiler can not either yet
11:20 < rxr> mipe: this is why we have and need the glibc32 package - to have the 32bit c library ...
11:20 < rxr> just that it does not yet build ...
11:20 < mipe> rxr:yep but glibc32 doenst build because of that
11:20 < mipe> rxr:cant link with libgcc
11:20 < rxr> huh?
11:20 < rxr> mipe: have you enabled multilib support in the config ?
11:21 < mipe> rxr:i made linux-header to produce header files like in sparc, yes multilib enabled
11:21 < rxr> hm
11:22 < rxr> oh - yes the stage0 compiler is built with mulitlib explicitly disabled ...
11:22 < rxr> mipe: can you try to copy the multilib conditoinal from the gcc's custmain function to the stage0 function
11:23 < rxr> and remove the --disable-multilib hardcoded in there ?
11:24 < mipe> i have done that, but something else is wrong,going src.glibc32....... and ./debug.sh gcc -v and x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-gcc -v produce segfault
11:24 < rxr> hm
11:26 < mipe> also in build-tools FLWRAPPER_LIBC=$( echo $xroot/lib/libc.* ) returns multible hits,and it complains about it, safe to ignore it?
11:27 < rxr> what are the matches ?
11:29 < mipe> "/lib/libc.a /lib/libc.so /lib/libc.so.6"
11:29 < rxr> hm
11:29 < rxr> no - that is not good
11:29 < rxr> what system is that gentoo ?
11:29 < mipe> rubyx
11:30 < rxr> ru what ?
11:30 < mipe> ls -la /lib/libc.*
11:30 < mipe> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Feb 5 22:19 /lib/libc.a -> /pkg/glibc.1/lib/libc.a
11:30 < mipe> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Feb 5 22:19 /lib/libc.so -> /pkg/glibc.1/lib/libc.so
11:30 < mipe> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Feb 5 22:20 /lib/libc.so.6 -> /pkg/glibc.1/lib/libc.so.6
11:30 < rxr> hm
11:30 < mipe> rubyx holds all packages in /pkg/
11:30 < rxr> mom phoning
11:43 < rxr> can you change the globbing to libc*so* ? and add a head -n 1 ;-) ?
11:44 < mipe> sure
11:50 * mipe off to do galileo law of free fall presentation,bbl
12:12 < rxr> cu
12:16 < rxr> so - me ordered a Konica Minolta magicolor 2430 DL ColorLaser
12:39 < rxr> hm - the windows usb subsystem seems to be rather instable
12:39 < rxr> uplugging the scanenr needs a system reboot, since the root hub is dead then...
13:55 < rxr> hm - when I boot this crappy windows with the scanner attached the usb port is dead
13:55 < rxr> what an operating system ...
14:06 < rxr> hm - now it showed coping a 84MB file to my samba share takes 14508742 minutes or so ?
14:16 < mipe> back to glibc32 work ;)
14:16 < mipe> ups :(
14:18 < mnemoc> moin
14:19 < mipe> hi mnemoc
14:19 < mnemoc> hi mipe
14:20 < mnemoc> rxr: head wont work because is an echo
14:20 < rxr> is an echo what ?
14:20 < rxr> *g*
14:20 < mnemoc> FLWRAPPER_LIBC
14:21 < mnemoc> but... that's $xroot, and xroot always supose to point to our sandbox
14:22 < rxr> I can not follow yes
14:22 < rxr> yet even
14:22 < mnemoc> ok
14:26 < mipe> rxr:should we build cross gcc on x86_64,one for x86_64 and one for i386?
14:27 < rxr> no
14:27 < rxr> one biaarch gcc that can output 64 and 32 bit assembly ...
14:28 < rxr> controlled with -m64 (default) and -m32
14:28 < mipe> hmm,yeah,but mine wont build with -m32 and i cant find the reason its not....
14:28 < rxr> it can not link executables, right ?
14:29 < mipe> yeah
14:29 < rxr> then just the 32bit libc is missing ...
14:29 < rxr> and your gcc is ok
14:30 < mipe> hmm... *testing*
14:45 < mipe> hmm,yeah but glibc32 doesnt build because it cant find proper libgcc.a
14:45 < mipe> to link with
14:47 < rxr> hm
14:48 < CIA-7> amery * r6380 /trunk/package/database/ (mysqlcc/mysqlcc.desc sqlite2/): * added sqlite2 as a copy of sqlite (1/2)
14:49 < mnemoc> dammit
14:49 < mnemoc> what is mysqlcc doing on that commit
14:50 < CIA-7> amery * r6381 /trunk/package/database/sqlite2/ (sqlite.cache sqlite.desc sqlite2.cache sqlite2.desc): * added sqlite2 as copy of sqlite2 (2/2)
14:55 < CIA-7> amery * r6382 /trunk/package/database/sqlite2/sqlite2.desc: * downdated sqlite2a (3.0.8 -> 2.8.15), due to compatibility issues
16:05 < CIA-7> amery * r6383 /trunk/package/base/file/file.desc: * updated file (4.12 -> 4.13)
16:09 < rxr> ,-)
16:11 < mnemoc> rxr: when you get _available_ ping me :)
16:43 < rxr> mnemoc: can you already write it down here
16:43 < rxr> I can read it while waiting for some testscan or so ..
16:44 < mnemoc> :)
16:50 < mnemoc> outch
16:50 < mnemoc> # /etc/network/rocknet default ppp0 down 2>&1 | less
16:50 < mnemoc> Interface / profile matched: ppp0(default)
16:50 < mnemoc> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out): 0x080531d8 ***
16:50 < mnemoc> /etc/network/rocknet: line 107: 30492 Abortado iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
16:50 < mnemoc> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080537f8 ***
16:50 < mnemoc> /etc/network/rocknet: line 107: 30505 Abortado iptables -F firewall_ppp0
16:50 < mnemoc> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08053090 ***
16:50 < mnemoc> /etc/network/rocknet: line 107: 30506 Abortado iptables -D INPUT -i ppp0 -j firewall_ppp0
16:51 < mnemoc> iptables: Too many links
16:51 < mnemoc> Unknown profile: 'default'
16:51 < rxr> oo
16:56 < mnemoc> rxr: i wanted to talk mainly about the announcement of beta3 and iso-s, linux26/nvidia (custmain ignored by build_package) and the problem on TOOLCHAIN detected by 1-gettext linked to host /usr/lib/libgettext-*.so
16:57 < rxr> yeah - well
16:57 < rxr> I work on t2 after aproc 18.00
16:57 < rxr> fixing the last bugs ...
16:58 < rxr> in -beta3 dialog or so might be broken I had problems with stone
16:58 < rxr> but it awaits an review
16:59 < mnemoc> i had no problems with beta3/dialog during installation (only pam_unix) or runtime
16:59 < mnemoc> i'll bother you in one hour (18.00) :)
17:05 < CIA-7> amery * r6384 /trunk/package/mail/pine/ (hotfix.patch pine.conf pine.desc): * updated pine (4.58 -> 4.62)
17:20 < CIA-7> amery * r6392 /trunk/package/database/mysqlcc/ (fixed_mysql_4.1.patch qmakespec.patch):
17:20 < CIA-7> * updated mysqlcc (0.8.10 -> 0.9.4) commited on revision 6380 by mistake
17:20 < CIA-7> * fixed mysqlcc to build against mysql 4.1
17:45 * mnemoc has 157 packages locally modified (updated mainly) having sweeped alphabeticly until packages/network
17:46 < mnemoc> BUT 1417 builds total, 1301 completed fine, 85 with errors.
17:47 * mnemoc needs some beta3-or-like reference to know if those 85 are ERR->ERR or OK->ERR
17:57 < rxr> this is a full reference on your side ?
17:57 < mnemoc> jsaw: hi, why did you removed the controversial stuff from your TODO?
17:57 < mnemoc> yep
17:58 < rxr> the numbers look good
17:58 < rxr> I think my last reference had more errors ...
17:58 < mnemoc> that's cool :)
17:58 < mnemoc> i thought i had doubled it or s.th like that
17:59 < rxr> no definetly not
17:59 < rxr> we still had many gcc-3.4 issues on toy stuff left ...
17:59 < rxr> + other never compiling toy stuff
17:59 < rxr> or long broken toy stuff (like broken since gcc-3.0 ...
17:59 < rxr> )
18:05 < mnemoc> CIA-7 is very lazy today
18:06 < mnemoc> rxr: iptables updates was reverted, and noted on wiki. (http://wiki.t2-project.org/index.cgi?21PendingUpdates)
18:06 < mnemoc> update*
18:10 < mnemoc> rxr: does dash have the history you missed on ash?
18:10 < rxr> ohem - we do not have dash, have we?
18:11 < mnemoc> afaik we do
18:11 < rxr> need to test it *g*
18:12 < mnemoc> :)
18:40 < mipe> ewww,gettext fails
18:40 < mipe> "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
18:41 < mnemoc> /lib/cpp? what distro is that?
18:42 < mipe> rubyx,why /lib/cpp?, googling this returns same type of errors on mandrake,gentoo,...
18:43 < rxr> mipe: my /lib/cpp works ...
18:43 < mipe> i dont have /lib/cpp
18:43 < mnemoc> stage 1?
18:43 < mipe> yeah
18:44 < mnemoc> ln -s `type -p cpp` /lib/cpp
18:44 < mnemoc> .oO( why is it trying to use _that_ cpp??? )o
18:45 < mipe> so its just normal symlink to /usr/bin/cpp...
18:46 < mipe> damm i hate physics homework :(
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18:53 < jeru> hi folks
18:54 < mnemoc> hi jeru
18:54 < jeru> how things are going on ? :-)
18:55 < mnemoc> fine.... building, updating and installing some machines as insane
18:55 < mnemoc> and you?
18:56 < jeru> right now I'm doing the same
18:56 < mnemoc> :)
18:57 < jeru> do you have succesfully build e2fstools from trunk?
18:57 < jeru> had problems bulding it yesterday
18:58 < mnemoc> mom
18:58 < mnemoc> are you on head?
18:59 < mnemoc> yes, it built here
18:59 < mipe> heh,e2fsprogs failed
18:59 < mnemoc> can you publish build logs?
18:59 < mnemoc> http://
19:00 < mipe> who?
19:00 < mnemoc> any of you :)
19:00 < mnemoc> it built here, and i would like to know why it failed to you (both)
19:01 < mipe> it doesnt find header file,thats why it failed here
19:01 < mnemoc> what header file?
19:01 < mipe> ext2_err.h
19:02 < mnemoc> Scheduling package 'e2fsprogs' for rebuild ...
19:03 < mipe> huoh,rubyx is ***,having /include in root containing that file
19:03 < mnemoc> your rubyx is highly _odd_
19:04 < mnemoc> mipe: on Config you can set gcc forced options like a -I/include :)
19:04 < mipe> yeah,have to do it....
19:04 < mnemoc> i'll die some minutes to test my new router, brb
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19:08 < jeru> was in the kitchen, have to eat some ... or I will die ;-)
19:17 < rxr> hi jeru !
19:18 < jeru> hi rxr!
19:22 < jeru> rxr: all exams finished ? ;-)
19:22 < rxr> well - for now yes ...
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19:22 < rxr> how is life over there ?
19:22 < jeru> me too :-)
19:28 < jeru> rxr: I'm quite well ... and you
19:30 < CIA-7> jeru * r6395 /trunk/package/network/clockspeed/ (6 files): * added DJB's clockspeed package (0.62)
19:31 < rxr> oh - yeah - thanks, mostly too
19:32 < rxr> well - high tech - no matter what scanner is plugged into my recent innovation: a windows test box, if it is pluged in at bootup the usb controler is dead
19:36 < rxr> hm - and one of the scanenrs does not yet work with the orig. windows driver at all so far ...
19:37 < rxr> somehow I have the feeling my driver in conjunction with the Linux or OSX USB stack is magnitudes more stable ...
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19:40 < mnemoc> re
19:41 < jeru> mnemoc: welcome back ;-) does your new "toy" work ?
19:41 < mnemoc> yep :)
19:41 < jeru> :-)
19:41 < mnemoc> i have a beta4 router running :)
19:41 < rxr> new toy - I missed s.th. ... ;-)
19:42 < mnemoc> nope, i just installed a _new_ 386 as router here
19:43 < rxr> I wonder how windows can be used in production use ... - considerig the percentage of the stuff working in it over here ...
19:44 < jeru> mnemoc: what target? router or mnemosyne?
19:44 < mnemoc> mnemosyne
19:45 < jeru> :)
19:45 < rxr> damn - my body demands food
19:45 < rxr> after the next windows reboot i'm finally out getting some ...
19:45 < jeru> I had already ...
19:45 < mnemoc> rxr: 1417 builds total, 1330 completed fine, 87 with errors.
19:46 < mnemoc> rxr: lot of stuff/updates to fix
19:46 < rxr> 87 looks quite good
19:46 < jeru> is this for beta3?
19:46 < mnemoc> HEAD+157 pending updates
19:47 < rxr> ,-)!
19:47 < jeru> ohh ... sh*t ;)
19:47 < mnemoc> i have sweeped until packages/network
19:49 < jeru> mnemoc: you should rename yourself 'workhorse' ;-)
19:49 < rxr> boa - after 5 reboots and a driver reinstall the scanner scanned the first image ...
19:49 * rxr impressed
19:49 < mnemoc> :)
19:51 < rxr> it wasts my previous time - I do not find it that funny ....
19:52 < mnemoc> *hiddengrin*
19:52 < rxr> hm - driver does not even work correctly ...
19:53 < jeru> rxr: you know the german windows admin slogan: 'Jeder boot tut gut' ;)
19:54 < mnemoc> jeru: what do you use clockspeed for?
19:54 < jeru> adjusting clock and synchronizing time in a network
19:55 < mnemoc> problems with ntpd?
19:55 < jeru> yes! I don't like it ;)
19:56 < jeru> clockspeed is also quite usefull because you don't have to sync so much
19:57 < jeru> it's very accurate (like DJB himself ;)
19:58 < mnemoc> :)
19:58 < mnemoc> i have never tried it
20:00 < jeru> but I wasn't quite shure about the right package location, but because it has a small sntp daemon I decided to place it into network
20:00 < mnemoc> ack
20:00 < mnemoc> what do you use for dhcpd?
20:01 < jeru> for now the the one from ISC :-(
20:02 < rxr> btw: Toll of the day: usbsnoop ,-)
20:02 < rxr> http://usbsnoop.sf.net or so ...
20:04 < mnemoc> usb sniffer??
20:06 < mnemoc> jeru: have you tried udhcp?
20:06 < jeru> not yet
20:06 < mnemoc> brb
20:08 < jeru> I will try it, but at home I don't use dhcp anyway
20:09 < mnemoc> re
20:15 < jeru> mnemoc: what size has your new syne router image?
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20:16 < mnemoc> jeru: it's fat
20:16 < mnemoc> i installed everything
20:17 < jeru> so there is no way to get it on a CF
20:17 < mnemoc> CF?
20:17 < jeru> Compact Flash
20:17 < mnemoc> sure
20:17 < mnemoc> removing gcc, and friends
20:17 < mnemoc> the local copy of t2-trunk
20:17 < jeru> ok
20:18 < mnemoc> documentation, blah blah....
20:18 < jeru> i see ;)
20:18 < mnemoc> it's around 600M installed now
20:20 < jeru> I'll start building a new mnemosyne target right now ;)
20:20 < mnemoc> :p
20:21 < mnemoc> i'll commit some changes to rocknet's ppp.sh in same minutes
20:21 < mnemoc> supervised ppp :)
20:22 < mnemoc> if runit.sh module is found
20:22 < jeru> good man ;-)
20:22 < rxr> .oO
20:22 < mnemoc> rxr: _if_ runit.sh is found
20:22 < mnemoc> and runit is an O package
20:24 < mnemoc> i use $CANUSESERVICE=1 env var (exported by runit.sh module) to condition it, and most of the job is done by runit.sh
20:53 < mnemoc> rxr: if you want to review, 6396 (runit.sh) 6397 (ppp.sh).
21:06 < rxr> no - I trust in you
21:07 < mnemoc> :o thanks :)
21:09 < rxr> mnemoc: so - due to scanner hacking we are already 3 hours off the 19.oo conference ... :-(
21:11 < mnemoc> :(
21:12 < mnemoc> do your stuff, don't worry.
21:15 < rxr> I do my stuff and worry ;-)
21:15 < mnemoc> :p
21:24 < mnemoc> rxr: from pppd Makefile:
21:24 < mnemoc> DESTDIR = /usr/local
21:24 < mnemoc> BINDIR = $(DESTDIR)/sbin
21:24 < mnemoc> nice, isn't it?
21:24 < rxr> well - not really ...
21:24 < rxr> as long as it does not hardcode pathes into the binary, .. it is easily work aroundable ...
21:24 < mnemoc> i was ironic :\
21:25 < mnemoc> yep
21:25 < rxr> I know that you have been ironic ,-)
21:26 < mnemoc> :)
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22:51 < CIA-9> jeru * r6404 /trunk/package/network/clockspeed/ (errno.patch head_n.patch t2_fixes.patch time_h.patch):
22:51 < CIA-9> * merged separate patch files to 1 patch
22:51 < CIA-9> * adjusted installation path for
22:51 < CIA-9> 'leapsec.dat' and 'adjust' fifo to '/var/lib/clockspeed'
22:54 < mnemoc> :)
22:55 < mnemoc> i have to go.... back is some hours
23:03 < jeru> bye
23:07 * rxr in bed in some seconds ...
23:08 < jeru> rxr: what's wrong ? in bed ?
23:09 < jeru> have a good sleep :)
23:10 < rxr> well - hacked scanner the wohle day ...
23:10 < rxr> did 3 releases of our osx driver I think ...
23:10 < jeru> hmm ... ok ... :)
23:11 < jeru> sleep well ... think we'll read us tomorrow ... bye bye
23:13 < rxr> looking forward to see you around ,-)
23:13 < jeru> ack
23:18 * jeru is back
23:20 < rxr> ok - release mail out -> me in bed
23:20 < rxr> n8 all
23:21 < jeru> good n8
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