T2 IRC Log: 2004-11-07

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--- Log opened Sun Nov 07 00:00:05 2004
--- Day changed Sun Nov 07 2004
00:00 < mtr> i have to blame my provider the third time for mail delivery problems last month
00:00 < mtr> arghhh
00:01 < mnemoc> gn8 rene
00:01 < mtr> mnemoc: i am trying to build a uclibc based system
00:01 < mnemoc> :p
00:01 < mnemoc> good luck
00:02 < mtr> not a desktop build, only a few packages
00:02 < mnemoc> yes
00:02 < mnemoc> good luck :)
00:08 < mnemoc> last time i used it i could chroot after a complete stage-1 without problems
00:08 < mnemoc> but Build-Pkg got confused entering stage-2
00:12 < mtr> my build currently has stopped in stage-1 at uclibc :(
00:12 < mtr> but i will continue the build
00:12 < mtr> let's see how far it gets
00:13 < mnemoc> uhm
00:13 < mnemoc> i don't think that would be safe
00:14 < mnemoc> i think uclibc problem is related to linux-src
00:14 < mtr> yes, i have to add linux-src, or change the relevant parts of uclibc
00:15 < mtr> linux-src would be cleaner, i think
00:16 < mnemoc> i guess only point it to /usr/include instead of /usr/src/linux
00:16 < mnemoc> but i don't have the code here, neither your error log :)
00:18 < mtr> there is a script fix_includes.sh which looks for the kernel toplevel Makefile
00:18 < mtr> so i guess that adjusting only the header path is not enough
00:20 < mtr> it also looks for include/linux/version.h
00:20 < mtr> i will try tomorrow
00:20 < mtr> many thanks for your hints
00:20 < mnemoc> :)
00:21 < mnemoc> i was just guessing
03:44 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.226.72.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
03:44 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | the system development environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
03:44 -!- Topic set by valentin [] [Sat Nov 6 22:39:42 2004]
03:44 [Users #t2]
03:44 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ martin_] [ mtr] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin]
03:44 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr] [ sparc-kly]
03:44 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
03:44 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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06:02 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r4602 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
06:02 < CIA-9> * Introduce INIT flag for packages which implement /sbin/init
06:02 < CIA-9> * Add option to select an INIT on Config (WIP)
08:59 -!- mtross is now known as mtr
09:45 -!- You're now known as rxr
10:23 < CIA-9> susan * r4603 /trunk/package/security/gnupg/gnupg.desc: * changed maintainer of gnupg
10:56 < martin_> moin
12:27 < rxr> moin
12:28 < rxr> hm - uclibc what?
12:49 < CIA-9> rene * r4604 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/qemu.desc: * updated qemu (0.5.5 -> 0.6.0)
13:00 < rxr> 970 builds total, 933 completed fine, 37 with errors.
13:06 < CIA-9> rene * r4605 /trunk/package/develop/mod_mono/mod_mono.conf:
13:06 < CIA-9> * fixed mod_mono, by diabling post_make compilations that do no longer
13:06 < CIA-9> exist
13:22 < martin_> http://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/~martin/nexus.jpg // the old nexus hd :-(
13:25 < rxr> hehe
13:26 < rxr> got your wlan scanning working?
13:33 < martin_> oh, fsck is ending after 6 hours ...
13:34 < martin_> hmm, I don't know. Now I know, it is better to build wlan stuff as modules :-)
13:35 < martin_> iwlist eth1 scanning will work.
13:47 < rxr> will (wird) or is currently working ...
14:02 < martin_> hmmm .. is corrently working. But I must test that all with serveral software
14:05 < martin_> can I update software, where Valentin is maintainer?
14:05 < valentin> martin_: what software ? kismet ?
14:06 < martin_> yes :)
14:09 < valentin> just do it
14:09 < valentin> but test it before commiting it
14:21 < martin_> ups, it will not build with the patches ...
14:27 < valentin> then try to build without the patches
14:28 < valentin> hopefully they will not be needed anymore with newer versions
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14:31 < valentin> martin: will have a short break for breakfast (at 14:30 *g*)
14:32 < martin_> he he. I have delete all patch's. I don't know, it is right.
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14:36 < rxr> sparc-kly: sparc build now on track ... ;-)
14:36 < rxr> hi mnemoc
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14:41 < CIA-9> rene * r4606 /trunk/package/base/disktype/disktype.desc: * updated disktype (6 -> 7) and added a [U]RL tag
14:43 < CIA-9> rene * r4607 /trunk/package/develop/ccache/ (ccache.desc dont_stat_compiler.patch): * updated ccache (2.3 -> 2.4)
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14:50 < sparc-kly> rxr good news :D
14:51 < CIA-9> rene * r4608 /trunk/package/gnome2/glade/glade.desc: * updated glade (2.0.2 - 2.6.5) - tested and fixes compilation ;-)!
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14:53 < rxr> hi Administrator_ ;-)!
14:53 < rxr> 971 builds total, 935 completed fine, 35 with errors.
14:55 < rxr> anyone willing to fix vnc compilation ?
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15:01 < valentin> rxr: simple compilation error ?
15:06 < rxr> nope more ugly
15:06 < rxr> I look into it right now
15:09 < martin_> can anyone look in package/network/kismet/kismet.conf, please. Without this lines, kismet will build with no errors. Are the options in .conf a need?
15:10 < rxr> there are many lines - which one do you mean?
15:12 < martin_> I don't know. I have commend out all lines ...
15:12 < rxr> hahqa
15:12 < rxr> haha even
15:12 < rxr> which version do you want to update to?
15:12 < rxr> i can track this here locally then ...
15:12 < martin_> kismet-2004-10-R1
15:13 < rxr> hm - valentin do you wanna do this?
15:16 < valentin> martin_: what happens with the conf options enabled ?
15:16 < rxr> the vnc makefils suck
15:17 < rxr> they rebuild all reach run :/
15:18 < rxr> ah ok no - /me was stupid this time ... forgot about the World behaviour I noted in my X.org 6.8 article in the linux magazin myself ...
15:25 < martin_> valentin: I don't, there were some build-erros.
15:29 < valentin> martin_: i;ll take
15:29 < valentin> a look myself
15:32 < martin_> sorry valentin, but I don't know enough about kismet an c++ error messages ...
15:32 < martin_> +d
15:39 < rxr> ARGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
15:39 < valentin> btw: anybody else gets checksum errors on dvgrab-1.6.tar.gz ?
15:39 < valentin> rxr: what ?
15:40 < rxr> the rock people updated my vnc package, messed it up and uglified it and it is still in a rene repository and lists me as maintainer ...\
15:40 < rxr> it contains such code:
15:40 < rxr> nc_inmake_xvnc() {
15:40 < rxr> tar $taropt $base/download/mirror/X/XFree86-*.tar.bz2
15:40 < rxr> patch -p0 < xc.patch
15:40 < rxr> patch -p1 < $confdir/vnc-xfree86.diff
15:40 < rxr> i do not want to know what drugs this fellow as on ... :-/
15:41 < rxr> fake ... - I feared that ...\
15:41 < rxr> fake:
15:41 < rxr> vnc: update to 4.0, add gcc34.patch
15:41 < rxr> vnc now comes without XFree sources,
15:41 < rxr> use ours - and fix some stuff to work
15:41 < rxr> with em'
15:41 < rxr>
15:42 < rxr> aside that it does not look like 4.0 is released ...
15:43 < rxr> well they annonced it on thelist only ...
15:45 < rxr> ah no, the download site just confused me ....
15:45 < rxr> doesn
15:45 < rxr> 't seem to be my day ...
16:17 < CIA-9> rene * r4609 /trunk/package/x11/vnc/ (4 files):
16:17 < CIA-9> * updated vnc (3.3.7 -> 4.0) - removed Xvnc build due to it's
16:17 < CIA-9> complexity - it will show up in a seperated package
16:33 -!- esden [~esden@p50804067.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2
16:33 < rxr> hi esden
16:33 < esden> hi rxr
16:33 < esden> hi all
16:35 < esden> sometimes I think I have a screwed mind ... because when I read code of other people it happens very often that it appears to me that it is a total mess ... and screwed up
16:35 < esden> and because it is so often I sometimes think that it may be that _I_ am screwed and not the people writing such ill stuff
16:36 < rxr> hehe
16:38 < esden> rxr: what do you think about that?
16:39 -!- Topic unset by esden on #t2
16:39 < esden> ups
16:39 < esden> sorry
16:39 < esden> what is going on!
16:40 < rxr> I think many sources are screwed up, not you
16:40 -!- valentin changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | the system development environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
16:41 < esden> I hope so
16:41 * rxr too
16:42 * esden cleaning it up now >_<
17:09 < rxr> hm - s.th. with my 1.7 ROCK Athlon sucks, compiling xvnc, catting a dvb-t stream disk to disk and playing the same files yields constant video frame and audio drop outs :-(((
17:10 < rxr> valentin: if you want to listen to a poor quality concert broadcast switch on the tv - or access my athlons ~rene/temp file ...
17:10 < rxr> impressive how bad the audio qaulity is ..
17:11 < valentin> what concert ?
17:11 < rxr> valentin: we should contact them and offer more professionl recordings ...
17:11 < rxr> jeanette biederman (--spelling variations)
17:11 < valentin> what concert ?
17:11 < valentin> ok
17:11 < valentin> who wants to hear that anyway ?
17:11 < valentin> :p
17:12 < rxr> it is not the worst hit stuff current on the martked ...
17:12 < rxr> primarily I just listen to it because it followed the enterprise episode ...
17:16 < rxr> some rock person here, with the flist of vnc?
17:19 * sparc-kly test LFS
17:20 < rxr> sparc-kly: ?
17:21 < sparc-kly> linux from scratch in my PII 366mhz
17:21 < sparc-kly> MMMmmmmMMMM
17:21 < sparc-kly> LOL
17:21 < rxr> .oO
17:22 * rxr hacking with loud rock music ....
17:23 < rxr> as much data I dumpt into my raid5 array from tv, the dvb-t card already starts to pay back ...
17:23 < daja77> rock music or biedermann? ;)
17:24 < rxr> hehe, quite rocky so far ...
17:25 < rxr> can you post the /bin/ parts of a vnc rock package?
17:26 < daja77> this machine has a rock-2.0.0beat6 might be too old for you
17:27 < rxr> hm
17:27 < rxr> could you do anyway?
17:27 < rxr> grep /bin/ /var/adm/flists/vnc?
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17:28 < daja77> vnc: usr/bin/Xvnc
17:28 < daja77> vnc: usr/bin/vncconnect
17:28 < daja77> vnc: usr/bin/vncpasswd
17:28 < daja77> vnc: usr/bin/vncserver
17:28 < daja77> vnc: usr/bin/vncviewer
17:28 < rxr> oki - thanks
17:29 -!- Netsplit over, joins: valentin
17:29 < rxr> rehi valentin
17:29 < valentin> hi
17:30 < valentin> qsc seems to kick me exactly once every 4 weeks
17:30 < rxr> hm?
17:30 < rxr> wasn't that a normal netsplit
17:30 < rxr> e.g. no reconnect of you sdsl line?
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17:34 < valentin> rxr: was it a netsplit ?
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17:35 < rxr> looked so
17:35 < valentin> ok
17:36 < rxr> 17:27 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits:
17:36 < rxr> valentin, mtr, CIA-9
17:36 < rxr> 17:29 -!- Netsplit over, joins: valentin
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17:37 < rxr> valentin: we either need to invent and patend a low-fi -> high-fi filter, or offer our recording facilities for those unpreofessional live concert recordings ...
17:39 < rxr> and I need to copy more ogg files back on my ibook , so I do not need to tv convert broadcast to get s.th. different then the 4 albums on my book :-(
17:41 < rxr> hopefully my converted xvnc does build now, we sould be down to 34 erros then ...
17:45 < rxr> hm - and now this guitar person miss-played his solo ...
17:55 < CIA-8> rene * r4610 /trunk/architecture/sparc/ (kernel.conf.m4 kernel26-disable.lst): * more sparc kernel config work
17:57 < rxr> this concert broadcast was for a dvd recording? they are joking, with this poor quality ?!?!
17:57 < rxr> valentin: there is a market to enconquer ...
18:05 < rxr> i'm impressed, the null video output plugin of mplayer is consuming more CPU compared to displayng the video on a Xv surface ...
18:05 < rxr> 30% compared to 15% ... ?!?!
18:09 < rxr> Your Rights Online: Microsoft Offers to License the Internet
18:09 < rxr> According to an eWeek story Microsoft is beginning to assert IP rights over 130 protocols including many basic Internet protocols including TCP/IP, DNS, etc. The story originates with a mailing list post to the IETF's IPR list."
18:11 < valentin> why the hell they claim ip over tcp/ip ?
18:11 < rxr> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/11/07/0519237.shtml?tid=109&tid=155&tid=123&tid=98
18:16 < rxr> the new windowmaker window switcher (meta - tab) is looking quite neat
18:17 < rxr> valentin: is your sunffb blanking problem work arounded?
18:19 < valentin> do not know yet - have to wait a short while
18:27 < rxr> i need to reorganize my raid5 array and replace the 1.7 rock with s.t. more recent on my build box ...
18:31 < rxr> hm impressive how fast mpeg2 dvb streams playback on the U30 ...
18:32 < rxr> although the colors are messed up ... but I think this should easily be fixable within a night or so ...
18:35 < esden> good night everyone
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18:37 < martin_> re
18:48 < rxr> hi martin_
18:48 < rxr> valentin: what is kismet doing?
18:55 < martin_> rxr I have change my trunk (kismet), how can I undo it? Or will a svn up easy do it for me?
18:57 < rxr> valentin has not yet committed anything ...
18:57 < rxr> you changed will most probably conflict with the stuff valentin will commit
18:58 < rxr> so it i sthe easiest thing for you to rm package/network/kismet/*
18:58 < rxr> and do a svn up
18:58 < rxr> otherwise you would have to resolve the conflicts ...
18:59 < martin_> ok
19:03 < martin_> btw rxr, I use my old iBook keyboard, it will work more, than the new one ...
19:11 < rxr> will is future - you wrote "es wird mehr funktionieren ..."
19:11 < rxr> maybe "it does work better, .."?
19:14 < rxr> hm - splitting vnc into a seperate xvnc was not the best idea of this day ...
19:16 < martin_> rxr ah, fuck. Ok, thanks. And why does and not do? I see, I must learn more english-
19:16 < rxr> he she it, s muss mit :-)
19:16 < rxr> in simple present only ...
19:19 < martin_> I have now copy all data from the old nexus harddisk to my harddisk. I have run fsck for only 8 hours ...
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19:54 < valentin> hown nice:
19:54 < valentin> 34 The Antichrist:
19:54 < valentin> The EU is looking a new President.
19:54 < valentin>

19:54 < valentin> http://www.raptureready.com/rap2.html
19:57 < valentin> damn my monitor starts to blank again
19:58 < martin_> valentin iBook or PC ?
19:58 < rxr> martin_: sparc
19:59 < rxr> valentin: I go browsing the code now ...
19:59 < martin_> ok
19:59 < rxr> martin_: an amazing Creator 3D UPA card ... :-)
20:00 < rxr> damn this Xvnc thingi get
20:00 < rxr> 's on my nerve
20:01 < valentin> damn a mankefile error in glibc
20:01 < valentin> makefile even
20:02 < valentin> a separator in one .d file is missing
20:02 < rxr> .oO (much fun trackin)
20:02 < rxr> +g
20:06 < valentin> haha h a h a ..
20:06 < valentin> i hate glibc
20:07 * rxr too
20:09 < rxr> have you already fixed the error?
20:09 < rxr> if not you could post the error tail here ...
20:11 < valentin> make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/t2-trunk/src.glibc.1099847914.4295.1941722232/libc/stdlib'
20:11 < valentin> /usr/src/t2-trunk/src.glibc.1099847914.4295.1941722232/libc/objdir/stdlib/ldbl2mpn.os.d:1: *** missing separator. Stop.
20:11 < valentin> make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/t2-trunk/src.glibc.1099847914.4295.1941722232/libc/stdlib'
20:12 < rxr> ah ha
20:13 < valentin> this is a source file ?
20:13 < rxr> ?
20:13 < valentin> there is c code in it
20:14 < martin_> gn8 all
20:14 < valentin> gn8 martin
20:14 < valentin> root@sundown:/usr/src/t2-trunk/src.glibc.1099847914.4295.1941722232/libc/objdir/stdlib# cat ldbl2mpn.os.d
20:14 < valentin> /*
20:14 < valentin> * x86 version of "atomic_dec_and_lock()" using
20:14 < valentin> * the atomic "cmpxchg" instruction.
20:14 < valentin> *
20:14 < valentin> * (For CPU's lacking cmpxchg, we use the slow
20:14 < valentin> * generic version, and this one never even gets
20:14 < valentin> * compiled).
20:14 < valentin> */
20:14 < valentin> #include
20:14 < valentin> #include
20:15 < valentin> int atomic_dec_and_lock(atomic_t *atomic, spinlock_t *lock)
20:15 < valentin> {
20:15 < valentin> int counter;
20:15 < valentin> int newcount;
20:23 < rxr> .oO
20:46 < valentin> all the other .d files are makefile dependencies, as expected
20:46 < rxr> have fun ...
20:47 < valentin> i have still no clue, where that one comes from
20:49 < rxr> at leat our 32bit build here goes better :-)
20:50 < rxr> so, no initrc code done today due to too much vnc crap and co ...
21:01 < rxr> == 11/07/04 21:00:45 =[5]=> Finished building package vnc.
21:04 < rxr> valentin: do you need a dump of ai (just running on pro7)?
21:04 < rxr> I dump it to hd, but I guess I do not want to have it lying on my disc for long ...
21:13 < valentin> rxr: i am watching it now, so i do not need it
21:16 < rxr> not good enough for storage, or cd?
21:18 < valentin> do not know it
21:18 < rxr> ok, so I continue the dump and you can say after the end if you want to scp it ...
21:18 < valentin> quite interessting film - how can one build a human like robot that breaks when getting a bit food in the mouth
21:18 < rxr> yeah ...
21:20 < rxr> i decided I'll offer multiple encoded versions of falk's files, so people have a wide choice
21:20 < CIA-8> rene * r4611 /trunk/package/x11/vnc/ (compile.patch vnc.conf vnc.desc):
21:20 < CIA-8> * fixed and readded Xvnc build to the vnc package
21:20 < CIA-8> (it turned out packaging it seperately is not that CPU time
21:20 < CIA-8> efficient) the package does use it's own set of older XFree86
21:20 < CIA-8> sources, the vnc source is intended for, so we do not need to
21:20 < CIA-8> mess with the X.org sources until the package builds again ...
21:20 < rxr> this way we also get some statistics what people prefer for other music downloads we'll offer later
21:30 < CIA-8> rene * r4612 /trunk/package/multimedia/vlc/vlc.desc: * updated vlc (0.7.2 -> 0.8.0) - just for fun - tested
21:31 < rxr> 971 builds total, 936 completed fine, 34 with errors.
21:54 < CIA-8> rene * r4613 /trunk/package/multimedia/libdvdnav/ (devlevel.txt libdvdnav.desc):
21:54 < CIA-8> * updated libdvdnav (0.1.9 -> 0.1.10)
21:54 < CIA-8> * removed very obsolete devleve.txt on the way:-)
21:54 < CIA-8> * not yet reenabled, because it still endless-loops without some
21:54 < CIA-8> specific old automake ...
21:55 < jsaw> re
21:55 < rxr> hi jsaw
21:56 < jsaw> would somebody with a x86 box at hand run valgrind over some executable (e.g. ls), please?
21:56 < rxr> oeh ?
21:56 < jsaw> I get this one:
21:56 < jsaw> ==15537== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s)
21:56 < jsaw> ==15537== at 0x1B8EBFD7: (within /lib/ld-2.3.3.so)
21:56 < jsaw> ==15537== by 0x1B8E695D: (within /lib/ld-2.3.3.so)
21:56 < jsaw> ==15537== by 0x1B8EF632: (within /lib/ld-2.3.3.so)
21:56 < jsaw> ==15537== by 0x1B8E7042: (within /lib/ld-2.3.3.so)
21:57 < rxr> commandline to be used?
21:57 < jsaw> which does not sound really good to me...
21:57 < jsaw> valgrind --tool=memcheck ls
21:58 < rxr> ==23089== ERROR SUMMARY: 0 errors from 0 contexts (suppressed: 17 from 1)
21:58 < jsaw> need to update...
21:58 < rxr> valgrind-2.2.0
21:58 < jsaw> ROCK Linux 2.1.0-DEV (2004/08/20)
21:58 < rxr> gcc (GCC) 3.4.2
21:58 < jsaw> 3.4.1
21:59 < rxr> /GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.3, by Roland McGrath et al.
21:59 < rxr> basically T2:HEAD :-)
21:59 < jsaw> valgrind-2.1.2
21:59 < rxr> fresh desktop bild to fix regressions ...
21:59 < rxr> build even
21:59 < jsaw> glibc 2.3.4-2004-05-01
21:59 < rxr> "33 with errors" I hope, when koffice is hacked to compile ...
22:00 < rxr> yep, here too
22:00 < jsaw> I just started (almost with 3.4.3, then I thought I don't want to fix new interferences)
22:00 < jsaw> a new build
22:00 < rxr> te ssp does not apply for 3.4.3
22:00 < rxr> the even ...
22:00 < jsaw> only the configure file
22:00 < rxr> this is why I have not yet comitted it ...
22:01 < rxr> yep, I know ...
22:01 < jsaw> :)
22:01 < rxr> but I did not wanted to mess with it, right now ...
22:01 < rxr> I fighted enough with uglz sparc fluff (e.g. glibc) and vnc today
22:01 < rxr> I did not even started the work I wanted to do on our linuxrc and bootdisk target cleanup ...
22:02 < jsaw> :(
22:37 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc-kly@66.50.157.59] has joined #t2
22:41 < valentin> 2000y without a reload - i want such a battery
22:42 < rxr> I bet some nuclear battery :-)
22:43 < daja77> this movie makes me feel asleep
22:43 < rxr> yep, /me, too
22:58 < rxr> valentin: the sparc32 build entered stage2 here ;-)
23:02 < valentin> rxr: that is one good news for today :)
23:07 < rxr> hey, my macosd seems to be packaged in gentoo ...
23:08 < rxr> http://www.gentoo-portage.com/app-laptop/macosd
23:09 < rxr> src_compile() {
23:09 < rxr> # can't use econf -- this packages uses ROCK Linux style configure
23:09 < rxr> ./configure \
23:09 < rxr> ...
23:09 < rxr> huh ?!?!
23:10 < rxr> what has our cool redone clean configure stuff to do with ROCK Linux ?!?!?!?!?!
23:10 < valentin> hey ! *g*
23:10 < rxr> so much to use flags:
23:10 < rxr> --with-xosd \
23:10 < rxr> --with-evas || die "./configure failed"
23:11 < rxr> http://www.gentoo-portage.com/ebuild?e=app-laptop%2Fmacosd%2Fmacosd-0.1.9.ebuild
23:13 < rxr> :-)
23:13 < valentin> wtf is ROCK Linux style configure ????
23:13 * rxr doesn't know ...
23:13 < valentin> you should mail them and correct the download URL
23:13 < rxr> at least they do not mention the secret option I have hidden in the source ...
23:14 < rxr> so they see the nice demo on every X startup :-)
23:15 * rxr should enhance the demo so gentoo users get our cool graphic stuff burned into the brain
23:15 < valentin> nice path variables hardcoding...
23:15 < rxr> I know I'm evil ....
23:15 < rxr> at least it does increat our google rating :-)
23:16 < valentin> rxr: how about sublimal t2 advertisment in the osd ?
23:17 * rxr should do more tiny gadgets to improve the google rating :-)
23:18 < rxr> valentin: remind me about T2 advert before I release the next macosd version :-!
23:18 < rxr> ouhm
23:18 < rxr> > creating config.h
23:18 < rxr> !> trap: usage: trap [-lp] [[arg] signal_spec ...]
23:18 < rxr> `- stage2 gcc biuld ... on sparc
23:19 < valentin> use my patch
23:19 < valentin> configure_shell.patch
23:19 < rxr> can you post the full path in the query?
23:20 < rxr> my line is quite saturated and I would like to avoid latencyfied ssh seassions ....
23:21 < valentin> i can scp it up in my private dir on grum
23:21 < valentin> or even on obelix
23:22 < rxr> well, obelix would rock :-)
23:23 < valentin> it is on exactcode.de/valentin for now
23:23 < rxr> and you'll notice how slow the scp will be .... *g*
23:23 < valentin> do not laugh loud if you read the patch pls ...
23:24 < rxr> wah, on my sparc U30 gkrellm is eating 3.3% cpu time ....
23:24 < rxr> urgs
23:24 < jsaw> 23:10 < rxr> ...
23:24 < jsaw> ups
23:25 < rxr> jsaw: ?
23:25 < jsaw> laptop... mouse buttons ...
23:26 < rxr> hm?
23:26 < rxr> valentin: the patch is not here yet?
23:26 < jsaw> limited coordination of my hands due to a cold...
23:27 < jsaw> ... not able to navigate between 2 windows without hitting too many buttons...
23:28 < valentin> what is 'here' ?
23:28 < valentin> it is in my valentin dir
23:28 < rxr> of grum?
23:28 < valentin> i can push it on to obelix
23:28 < valentin> yep
23:28 < rxr> nah I get it now
23:28 < rxr> just traffic shaped the rync ...
23:28 < rxr> +s
23:29 < valentin> in beetween you could have craeted that patch by hand :)
23:32 < rxr> yep, especially finding out that you meant you web folder, and not you home dir ....
23:32 < rxr> build continuing now ...
23:32 < rxr> valentin: what checksum errored for you?
23:32 < rxr> diffsat does here ...
23:35 < rxr> and it does so, because we use the file download overwrite and there is most probably a new version out ...
23:35 * rxr tracking
23:36 < valentin> 15:39 < valentin> btw: anybody else gets checksum errors on dvgrab-1.6.tar.gz ?
23:38 < rxr> aja
23:41 < valentin> rxr: did you find out how glibc generated dependency files before ?
23:42 < rxr> no, thanks to god I had not to look into that before ...
23:42 < rxr> it was enough to track the other problem ...
23:43 < rxr> such a U30 is quite nice ... - so muc more powerful than my old U5 ...
23:45 < valentin> btw: the flickering stopped shortly after my build aborted
23:45 < rxr> hm?
23:45 < rxr> interesting
23:46 < valentin> maybe it only shows up under heavy load
23:46 < rxr> zeah
23:56 < CIA-8> rene * r4614 /trunk/package/develop/diffstat/diffstat.desc:
23:56 < CIA-8> * updated diffstat (1.33 -> 1.34) - and do not use the version over-
23:56 < CIA-8> write anymore - tested on sparc
--- Log closed Mon Nov 08 00:00:05 2004