T2 IRC Log: 2011-02-07
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--- Log opened Mon Feb 07 00:00:06 2011
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08:25 < rxr> moin
10:11 < rxr> re
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11:05 < CIA-37> rene * r38647 /trunk/package/network/whois/whois.desc: * updated whois (5.0.8 -> 5.0.11)
11:14 < CIA-37> rene * r38648 /trunk/package/editors/lyx/lyx.desc: * updated lyx (1.6.8 -> 1.6.9)
11:16 < CIA-37> rene * r38649 /trunk/package/kde/ktorrent/ktorrent.desc: * updated ktorrent (4.0.4 -> 4.0.5)
11:45 < mjungwirth> hmm can't build udev version 165 cross
11:46 < mjungwirth> patch udevadm-compat.patch are broken
11:46 < mjungwirth> hmm i think you can remove this patch from your svn-tree
11:48 < rxr> isn't it?
11:48 < rxr> maybe git merge relict?
11:48 < mjungwirth> hmm
11:49 < mjungwirth> moment i make a svn update
11:49 < mjungwirth> it isn't remove
11:51 < mjungwirth> have you more updates of udev? i can't build. configure error.
11:51 < rxr> cross builds here
11:51 < rxr> no local chacne
11:51 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/udev.html
11:52 < mjungwirth> hmm
11:52 < mjungwirth> strange
11:53 < mjungwirth> i removed the package/filesystem/udev directory and checked out again. not the file is removed.
11:53 < mjungwirth> i love it
12:00 < rxr> never have such issue
12:00 < rxr> wheren't you using some git in the mix ?
12:13 < rogermas`> moin
12:16 < rogermas`> I'm planning to move my intel imac from gentoo to T2. I'm assuming that a generic i686 build will work OK.
13:08 < rxr> yes, x86 certainly is the most tested, incl. wine & co
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16:58 < rogermas`> in the past I have installed T2 over other linux distros by copying the initrd and kernel from the iso to /boot on the hard-drive. I then insert a usb stick, boot into the new initrd/kernel and direct T2 to the second stage *.bz2 file on the stick. For some reason, on this machine, that does not work and I get an error message saying that stage_2.tar.bz2 is not a proper tar archive.
16:59 < rxr> hm
16:59 < rxr> specified the right bz2 decompressor, argument?
17:00 < rogermas`> no. when T2 asked where to get the stage 2 file I just entered /dev/sdb1, which is my USB stick.
17:00 < rxr> do you use a recent initrd? support for bzip2 decompression is new
17:02 < rogermas`> how recent? The initrd came from an 8.0 iso.
17:02 < rxr> maybe post 8.0
17:03 < rogermas`> OK. That is likely the problem. I'll try again later this week with the initrd/kernel off my USB stick.
17:03 < rxr> r37646 | rene | 2010-09-21 13:34:30 +0200 (Tue, 21 Sep 2010) | 2 lines
17:03 < rxr> * added mini bunzip2 to embutils
17:04 < rxr> no, it's in 8.0, hm
17:04 < rxr> ak, no isn't
17:04 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/8.0/package/base/embutils/embutils.desc
17:04 < rxr> ^- no bunzip2 in there
17:05 < rogermas`> Thanks. Last time I did this I must have got everything off the USB stick, which is comparatively up to date.
17:06 < rogermas`> None of this would be necessary if my aluminum imac would boot from USB.
17:06 < rxr> yeah, ...
17:06 < rxr> it does in EFI mode, not in legacy BIOS mode, ...
17:06 < rxr> we should start making our x86 boot stuff EFI aware :-(
17:06 < rogermas`> how do i put it in efi mode?
17:07 < rxr> well it is
17:07 < rxr> you "just" need an USB drive with EFI boot files on it
17:07 < rxr> like the native Mac OS X install media and installed HDs are, ...
17:07 < rxr> you can do so using ELILO, or maybe grub2
17:07 < rxr> that is it is custom tinkering at the moment
17:08 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/elilo.html
17:08 < rogermas`> I see. So the usb stick would have to be formatted (at least in part) as HFS+?
17:08 < rxr> IIRC I test booted an USB stick on my aging MacBook Pro sometime last year
17:08 < rxr> I think good 'ole FAT works, too
17:08 < rxr> but yes, it must be either FAT or HFS
17:08 < rxr> at least the "boot" partition
17:09 < rxr> or better yet "EFI" system partition
17:09 < rxr> elilo and grub2 can certainly then load the kernel and initrd form other-FSs, too
17:09 < rxr> note that I'm just speaking out loud, I do not want to push you to waste your time trying that out now :-)
17:10 < rogermas`> OK. it is vfat but I dont use grub: syslinux instead because of machines that won't boot using grub.
17:12 < rogermas`> no, I'm not going to mess with it at this point. I have a pretty good system on my USB stick and there's not much incentive to break it right now, especially as I'm busy teaching and I want the imac converted to T2 asap.
17:13 < rxr> just take a latest kernel and initrd for the usb boot stick
17:13 < rogermas`> yep.
18:30 < CIA-37> rene * r38650 /trunk/package/network/stunnel/stunnel.desc: * updated stunnel (4.34 -> 4.35)
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08:25 < rxr> moin
10:11 < rxr> re
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11:05 < CIA-37> rene * r38647 /trunk/package/network/whois/whois.desc: * updated whois (5.0.8 -> 5.0.11)
11:14 < CIA-37> rene * r38648 /trunk/package/editors/lyx/lyx.desc: * updated lyx (1.6.8 -> 1.6.9)
11:16 < CIA-37> rene * r38649 /trunk/package/kde/ktorrent/ktorrent.desc: * updated ktorrent (4.0.4 -> 4.0.5)
11:45 < mjungwirth> hmm can't build udev version 165 cross
11:46 < mjungwirth> patch udevadm-compat.patch are broken
11:46 < mjungwirth> hmm i think you can remove this patch from your svn-tree
11:48 < rxr> isn't it?
11:48 < rxr> maybe git merge relict?
11:48 < mjungwirth> hmm
11:49 < mjungwirth> moment i make a svn update
11:49 < mjungwirth> it isn't remove
11:51 < mjungwirth> have you more updates of udev? i can't build. configure error.
11:51 < rxr> cross builds here
11:51 < rxr> no local chacne
11:51 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/udev.html
11:52 < mjungwirth> hmm
11:52 < mjungwirth> strange
11:53 < mjungwirth> i removed the package/filesystem/udev directory and checked out again. not the file is removed.
11:53 < mjungwirth> i love it
12:00 < rxr> never have such issue
12:00 < rxr> wheren't you using some git in the mix ?
12:13 < rogermas`> moin
12:16 < rogermas`> I'm planning to move my intel imac from gentoo to T2. I'm assuming that a generic i686 build will work OK.
13:08 < rxr> yes, x86 certainly is the most tested, incl. wine & co
15:50 -!- mqueiros [~mqueiros@a83-132-1-4.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #t2
16:58 < rogermas`> in the past I have installed T2 over other linux distros by copying the initrd and kernel from the iso to /boot on the hard-drive. I then insert a usb stick, boot into the new initrd/kernel and direct T2 to the second stage *.bz2 file on the stick. For some reason, on this machine, that does not work and I get an error message saying that stage_2.tar.bz2 is not a proper tar archive.
16:59 < rxr> hm
16:59 < rxr> specified the right bz2 decompressor, argument?
17:00 < rogermas`> no. when T2 asked where to get the stage 2 file I just entered /dev/sdb1, which is my USB stick.
17:00 < rxr> do you use a recent initrd? support for bzip2 decompression is new
17:02 < rogermas`> how recent? The initrd came from an 8.0 iso.
17:02 < rxr> maybe post 8.0
17:03 < rogermas`> OK. That is likely the problem. I'll try again later this week with the initrd/kernel off my USB stick.
17:03 < rxr> r37646 | rene | 2010-09-21 13:34:30 +0200 (Tue, 21 Sep 2010) | 2 lines
17:03 < rxr> * added mini bunzip2 to embutils
17:04 < rxr> no, it's in 8.0, hm
17:04 < rxr> ak, no isn't
17:04 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/8.0/package/base/embutils/embutils.desc
17:04 < rxr> ^- no bunzip2 in there
17:05 < rogermas`> Thanks. Last time I did this I must have got everything off the USB stick, which is comparatively up to date.
17:06 < rogermas`> None of this would be necessary if my aluminum imac would boot from USB.
17:06 < rxr> yeah, ...
17:06 < rxr> it does in EFI mode, not in legacy BIOS mode, ...
17:06 < rxr> we should start making our x86 boot stuff EFI aware :-(
17:06 < rogermas`> how do i put it in efi mode?
17:07 < rxr> well it is
17:07 < rxr> you "just" need an USB drive with EFI boot files on it
17:07 < rxr> like the native Mac OS X install media and installed HDs are, ...
17:07 < rxr> you can do so using ELILO, or maybe grub2
17:07 < rxr> that is it is custom tinkering at the moment
17:08 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/elilo.html
17:08 < rogermas`> I see. So the usb stick would have to be formatted (at least in part) as HFS+?
17:08 < rxr> IIRC I test booted an USB stick on my aging MacBook Pro sometime last year
17:08 < rxr> I think good 'ole FAT works, too
17:08 < rxr> but yes, it must be either FAT or HFS
17:08 < rxr> at least the "boot" partition
17:09 < rxr> or better yet "EFI" system partition
17:09 < rxr> elilo and grub2 can certainly then load the kernel and initrd form other-FSs, too
17:09 < rxr> note that I'm just speaking out loud, I do not want to push you to waste your time trying that out now :-)
17:10 < rogermas`> OK. it is vfat but I dont use grub: syslinux instead because of machines that won't boot using grub.
17:12 < rogermas`> no, I'm not going to mess with it at this point. I have a pretty good system on my USB stick and there's not much incentive to break it right now, especially as I'm busy teaching and I want the imac converted to T2 asap.
17:13 < rxr> just take a latest kernel and initrd for the usb boot stick
17:13 < rogermas`> yep.
18:30 < CIA-37> rene * r38650 /trunk/package/network/stunnel/stunnel.desc: * updated stunnel (4.34 -> 4.35)
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