T2 IRC Log: 2010-12-17

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--- Log opened Fri Dec 17 00:00:41 2010
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09:41 < otwieracz> Hello.
09:57 < rxr> moin
10:03 < otwieracz> I must configure and compile kernel for my T2 distribution by hand?
10:04 < rxr> no
10:05 < otwieracz> But can I?
10:05 < rxr> sure you can
10:06 < rxr> ... of course you can
10:06 < otwieracz> :-)
10:12 < otwieracz> How can I select packages to install?
10:12 < otwieracz> How „package selection rules” works?
10:14 < rxr> you read some documentation at all ?
10:17 < otwieracz> Currently I'm over „Building T2”
10:18 < otwieracz> „If you want to alter the package selection (…) this is finally posible at this stage, under the expert menu”
10:18 < rxr> finally?
10:19 < rxr> well, you can change the package selection in the config
10:19 < otwieracz> Yes, „finally”.
10:19 < rxr> the question is what eaxactly do you want to build, just one desktop / laptop workstaiton or some product to ship
10:19 < rxr> still don't get what you mean with finally
10:19 < rxr> it's been there for years, maybe nearly a decade, whatever, ...
10:20 < otwieracz> Well, I'm building system for small x86 with Geode, which will be sound server (pulseaudio).
10:20 < otwieracz> I need rtl8180 drivers (for wifi card), wireless-tools, pulseaudio, lcd4linux, lirc and mpc.
10:21 < otwieracz> Generally, that's everything.
10:21 < otwieracz> This is Geode GX1 300MHz CPU with 32MB RAM.
10:22 < otwieracz> So, I don't need xorg.
10:22 < otwieracz> I need really minimal set of software.
10:23 < rxr> sure, no problem, either start with the minimal package selection template, or the embedded target example, if you want it smaller, more difficult
10:23 < otwieracz> /home/gonet9/dane/_t2/t2-trunk/config/default/config (text): http://wklej.org/id/439525/ ← that's my current config.
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10:35 < otwieracz> Uhm, I see there's no lirc package.
10:37 < otwieracz> Is available to let T2 download more recent kernel, not 2.6.30
10:37 < otwieracz> ?
10:38 < rxr> what version do you look at? trunk as 2.6.36.2, ....
10:38 < rxr> even 8.0 has 2.6.34.7 http://t2-project.org/packages/8.0/linux26.html
10:38 < rxr> http://t2-project.org/packages/linux26.html
10:38 < otwieracz> o0
10:38 < otwieracz> I have trunk.
10:38 < otwieracz> updated today.
10:39 < otwieracz> Downloading linux-header:download/mirror/l/linux-2.6.30.tar.bz2 ...
10:39 < otwieracz> After ./scripts/Download -required
10:43 < rxr> that is just for the linux-header package, that installs the include files
10:43 < otwieracz> OK.
10:43 < rxr> we can not always update them for the fun of it, because each updata breaks half of the user-space apps including files like cdrom.h or whatnot, ..
10:43 < rxr> I have to do a little work now, cu later
10:45 < otwieracz> Thanks for help and good bye.
10:53 < otwieracz> .36, that's right.
11:31 -!- otwieracz is now known as nu7hatch
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12:03 < otwieracz> !> /home/gonet9/dane/_t2/t2-trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: line 163: i686-t2-linux-uclibc-depmod: command not found
12:11 < otwieracz> Why?
13:23 < rxr> hm, what target/config doy ou build?
13:30 < otwieracz> Probably the problem was that I don't have module-init-tools.
13:33 < otwieracz> Yes, that was the problem.
13:39 < rxr> ah, yeah
13:43 < otwieracz> Now mpc fails.
13:43 < otwieracz> !> configure: error: libgmp not found or uses a different ABI
13:43 < otwieracz> I added „gmp”
13:44 < otwieracz> └─[root]─> grep gmp config/default/pkgsel
13:44 < otwieracz> X gmp
13:45 < otwieracz> But gmp isn't compiled before mpc.
13:46 < otwieracz> Hmm, wait…
13:46 < otwieracz> That's not thath mpc.
13:47 < otwieracz> I mean music player client, not arythmetic library.
13:47 < otwieracz> I'm looking for „mpcli”
13:48 < CIA-36> rene * r38316 /trunk/package/emulators/lxdream/lxdream.desc: * updated lxdream (0.9 -> 0.9.1)
14:06 < otwieracz> Is there any easy way to build something for T2 from sources?
14:06 < otwieracz> I really need LIRC.
14:18 < otwieracz> /home/gonet9/dane/_t2/t2-trunk/build/default-9.0-trunk-embedded-minimal-x86-geode-cross-linux/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/crosscc/../lib/gcc/i686-t2-linux-uclibc/4.5.1/../../../../i686-t2-linux-uclibc/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++
14:19 < otwieracz> When compiling alsa-utils.
14:22 < otwieracz> Erm, wait.
14:22 < otwieracz> When compiling ncurses.
14:24 < otwieracz> /home/gonet9/dane/_t2/t2-trunk/build/default-9.0-trunk-embedded-minimal-x86-geode-cross-linux/var/adm/logs/1-ncurses.err (text): http://wklej.org/id/439635/
14:58 < otwieracz> !> sndfilehandle.cc:19:18: fatal error: cstdio: No such file or directory ← and that while libsndfile
14:58 < otwieracz> What I'm doing wrong?
17:03 < otwieracz> Anybody?
17:27 < CIA-36> rene * r38317 /trunk/package/x11/gentoo/ (gentoo.desc gtk.patch): * updated gentoo (0.15.6 -> 0.19.7)
17:27 < CIA-36> rene * r38318 /trunk/package/filesystem/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs.desc: * updated e2fsprogs (1.41.12 -> 1.41.13)
17:27 < CIA-36> rene * r38319 /trunk/package/printing/foomatic-filters/foomatic-filters.desc: * updated foomatic-filters (4.0.5 -> 4.0.6)
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--- Log closed Sat Dec 18 00:00:41 2010