--- Log opened Mon Oct 04 00:00:49 2010 00:51 -!- mqueiros_ [~mqueiros@a83-132-249-50.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:54 -!- mqueiros_ [~mqueiros@a83-132-249-50.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #t2 01:20 -!- old_gaffer [~quassel@211.238.240.87] has joined #t2 01:50 -!- old_gaffer [~quassel@211.238.240.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:52 -!- rogermason [~user@gem.esd.mun.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:52 -!- old_gaffer [~quassel@211.238.240.87] has joined #t2 06:48 -!- koan [~koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:54 -!- koan [~koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 07:34 -!- mjungwirth [~mjungwirt@213.174.234.68] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:38 -!- mjungwirth [~mjungwirt@213.174.234.68] has joined #t2 09:06 <@rxr> re 09:42 < CIA-32> rene * r37750 /trunk/package/network/pmacct/pmacct.desc: * updated pmacct (0.12.3 -> 0.12.4) 09:43 < CIA-32> rene * r37751 /trunk/package/gnome2/pango/pango.desc: * updated pango (1.28.1 -> 1.28.3) 09:43 < CIA-32> rene * r37752 /trunk/package/xorg/xdpyinfo/xdpyinfo.desc: * updated xdpyinfo (1.1.0 -> 1.2.0) 09:43 < CIA-32> rene * r37753 /trunk/package/audio/libsndfile/libsndfile.desc: * updated libsndfile (1.0.20 -> 1.0.22) 09:43 < CIA-32> rene * r37754 /trunk/package/network/bluez/bluez.desc: * updated bluez (4.72 -> 4.73) 09:43 < CIA-32> rene * r37755 /trunk/package/perl/perl-mailtools/perl-mailtools.desc: * updated perl-mailtools (2.06 -> 2.07) 09:47 -!- koan [~koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:47 -!- koan [~koan@174.136.97.66] has joined #t2 09:47 -!- koan [~koan@174.136.97.66] has quit [Changing host] 09:47 -!- koan [~koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 09:54 -!- adilix [~m@62.74.138.66] has joined #t2 09:54 < adilix> hi all 09:55 < adilix> what exactly are the cd iso images, do i need them 09:55 < adilix> to start 10:03 <@rxr> the cd isos are pre-built binaries, bootable and installable 10:04 <@rxr> it is most easy to start with them, and just compile what you need on top 10:04 <@rxr> building everything from scratch can be more tricky, if you build on a foreign linux distribution 10:09 < adilix> are the iso cds the rescue binaries, i read in doku about rescue binaries 10:25 < adilix> so i start a download of the iso, i wanted to know if the isos are an environment for starting to build a system without to download additional packages and whats about the scripts are their in the cds 10:47 <@rxr> don't know what rescue binaries you mean 10:47 <@rxr> they are normal system binaries, like Fedora, SuSE, Ubuntu et. al. 10:47 <@rxr> you can use them to bulid source code, to build t2 you need to checkout the t2 source via svn 10:47 <@rxr> svn and all the other tools are included in these isos 10:48 <@rxr> so you can start with "svn checkout ..." after installing 10:48 < CIA-32> rene * r37756 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnumeric/gnumeric.desc: * updated gnumeric (1.10.10 -> 1.10.11) 10:49 <@rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html 10:50 < CIA-32> rene * r37757 /trunk/package/graphic/gimp/gimp.desc: * updated gimp (2.6.10 -> 2.6.11) 10:53 < adilix> ok thx i understand now, i need a permament internet connection 10:53 <@rxr> not necessarily 10:53 <@rxr> you can Download all in one go 10:54 <@rxr> e.g. before you build a whole target via Download -required 10:56 < adilix> all in one? you mean over 8000 packages 10:58 <@rxr> no, onle those you have selected 10:58 <@rxr> e.g. when you want to build your own cd and select a minimal x desktop only ~300 or so are downloaded 10:59 <@rxr> otherwise, if you start with the binary isos, and just build add-on what you need (e.g. x, firefox, etc.) you use Emerge-Pkg and it only downloads the source and dependencies as needed 11:33 -!- rogermason [~user@gem.esd.mun.ca] has joined #t2 11:33 < rogermason> hello. 11:50 < adilix> ok thx and bye tor the moment 11:50 -!- adilix [~m@62.74.138.66] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:58 < rogermason> I re-installed 8.0 on my G5. When booting I get the message: drivers/rtc/hctosys.c: unable to open rtc device (rtc0). I also notice that the time is set to the epoch. 16:18 -!- rxr [~rene@85.183.32.143] has joined #t2 16:18 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 8.0 released! | The Open T2 System Development Environment (SDE) | http://t2-project.org 16:18 -!- Topic set by rxr [~rene@85.183.32.143] [Wed Jul 28 15:50:12 2010] 16:18 [Users #t2] 16:18 [@ChanServ] [ koan ] [ mqueiros_ ] [ orici ] [ Stealth] 16:18 [ ch172 ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ rogermason] 16:18 [ CIA-32 ] [ mjungwirth] [ old_gaffer] [ rxr ] 16:18 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 16:18 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Nov 26 07:44:08 2006 16:18 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 6 secs 16:18 < rxr> rogermason: I think I saw a line already, too 16:18 < rxr> think it went away with a newer kernel 16:27 < rogermason> if is install trunk again, do you have any ideas on getting the kernel to boot? 16:28 < rxr> maybe it is a better option to emerge stuff you need from trunk? 16:28 < rxr> slatest linux kernels appear to have new ppc64 regressions beside this KVM virtualization, they do not run as solid as the 8.0 release iso even for me :-( 16:31 < rogermason> I'm ok building from trunk, but it would be nice to have the machine know what the time is. yesterday when I built cracklib, that pulled in python, which kept doing its configure step in an endless loop because the system time was 1970(?). 16:50 < rxr> ntpdate time.apple.com 16:51 < rxr> the good think with Emerge from trunk is, that you can test multiple kernels / config until one works reliable 16:51 < rxr> currently there appears to be some hiccup with the latest "stable" kernels on ppc64 16:57 < rogermason> thanks, ntpdate works. 17:01 < rogermason> whick package contains the timezone data? /usr/share/zoneinfo/ just contains iso3166.tab and zone.tab and the link from /etc/localtime shows as a dead link. 17:27 < rxr> unfortunately glibc 19:06 < rogermason> :-( that is what I feared from the package matrix. Thanks. 19:45 -!- mqueiros_ [~mqueiros@a83-132-249-50.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:46 -!- mqueiros_ [~mqueiros@a83-132-249-50.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Tue Oct 05 00:00:58 2010