T2 IRC Log: 2010-10-01
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--- Log opened Fri Oct 01 00:00:49 2010
00:35 -!- ahc [~ahc@c-83-233-18-157.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #t2
00:35 < ahc> do you have svn repo to check out package recipes.
00:37 < ahc> nvm I found it
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10:24 <@rxr> re
10:24 <@rxr> :-)
10:24 [Users #t2]
10:24 [@ChanServ] [ ch172 ] [ koan] [ mjungwirth] [ mtr ] [ rogermason]
10:24 [@rxr ] [ CIA-32] [ LMJ ] [ mqueiros ] [ orici] [ Stealth ]
10:24 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal]
10:49 < CIA-32> rene * r37737 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-intel/xf86-video-intel.desc: * updated xf86-video-intel (2.12.0 -> 2.13.0)
11:16 < CIA-32> rene * r37738 /trunk/package/x11/fox/fox.desc: * updated fox (1.6.37 -> 1.6.40)
11:18 < rogermason> hello.
11:18 <@rxr> hi roger
11:19 <@rxr> how is your new ppc64 build running on the G5?
11:19 < rogermason> not very well :-(
11:19 <@rxr> oh, why ?
11:19 < rogermason> starting eth0 crashes the kernel
11:20 <@rxr> oh, I had that, too
11:20 <@rxr> I thought it was related to enabled VIRTUALZATION (KVM) in my .config
11:20 <@rxr> but when it happens for you, too, it may be rather a general problem of a latest kernel update :-(
11:20 <@rxr> I think I did not yet commit the KVM for powerpc option
11:20 <@rxr> le me check
11:21 <@rxr> ah, damnit I committed it
11:21 <@rxr> r37560 | rene | 2010-09-08 13:31:13 +0200 (Wed, 08 Sep 2010) | 2 lines
11:21 <@rxr> * generically enable linux kernel VIRTUALIZATION option, e.g. not the default on PPC
11:22 <@rxr> can you in one way or another build a new kernel on the box?
11:22 <@rxr> either without starting networking or the previous install?
11:22 <@rxr> guess I have to slap Alexander for whatever he broke with his ppc KVM bits :-(
11:24 < rogermason> well, I suppose I could put a kernel tree on a USB stick and transfer it to the hd. alternativelly, is there some way to get the initrd + kernel off the boot dvd?
11:25 < rogermason> however, before any of that there is another problem to solve.
11:25 <@rxr> interesting that the bootcd works
11:26 <@rxr> guess just because it does not activate eth0 ?
11:26 <@rxr> what a crazzy bug triggering on ethernet interface activation ... !?!?
11:26 <@rxr> can you log into your current install?
11:26 <@rxr> or did you enable network in the default runlevel services?
11:27 < rogermason> initially it was enabled but I turned it off. So the machine boots and I get a login prompt.
11:27 <@rxr> oh nice
11:27 <@rxr> then the easiest is probably just to transfer a t2 tree or missing downloads via USB
11:28 <@rxr> jsut comment out CONFIG_VIRTUALIZATION in architecture/share/kernel-common.conf.m4
11:29 < rogermason> unfortunately, the root password is not being set during the install, so I cannot log in
11:31 < rogermason> i tried booting the dvd, mounting /dev/sda, chrooting then running passwd. unfortunately
11:31 < rogermason> passwd: Module is unknown
11:31 < rogermason> passwd: password unchanged
11:32 <@rxr> ouhm?
11:33 < CIA-32> rene * r37739 /trunk/package/security/gnutls/gnutls.desc: * updated gnutls (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
11:34 < CIA-32> rene * r37740 /trunk/package/security/freeradius/freeradius.desc: * updated freeradius (2.1.9 -> 2.1.10)
11:34 < CIA-32> rene * r37741 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem-pl-parser/totem-pl-parser.desc: * updated totem-pl-parser (2.30.3 -> 2.30.4)
11:34 < rogermason> i ran tail on /var/log/messages and it looks like a problem with pam. Unfortunately, i could not get out of tail with ctrl-c and had to reboot.
11:34 <@rxr> maybe some cracklib or so moudle not present?
11:35 < rogermason> could be, but the machine seems crippled without functioning tools to fix it.
11:36 <@rxr> you could mount the hd from the install dvd and chroot into it
11:36 <@rxr> and also tweak whatever problem pam got there
11:37 < rogermason> yes, i tried that: "i ran tail on /var/log/messages and it looks like a problem with
11:37 < rogermason> pam. Unfortunately, i could not get out of tail with ctrl-c and
11:37 < rogermason> had to reboot."
11:38 <@rxr> IIRC C-c once worked in the install environment, hm
11:38 <@rxr> but the VT should also work
11:38 <@rxr> did you not got 6 vt's in the installer prompt
11:38 < rogermason> yes
11:41 < rogermason> i wonder. if i boot the 8.0 cd, mount the hd, maybe I can at least get a better idea what is wrong.
11:42 <@rxr> the install cd should not make too much of a difference, or you just reinstall the 8.0 to continue with a little trunk fixup
11:45 < rogermason> is there any way to set a root password directly, just by editing /etc/passwd and/or /etc/shaddow?
11:45 <@rxr> you could disable the password with any editor
11:45 < rogermason> how?
11:45 <@rxr> the 2nd fielf in /etc/password
11:45 <@rxr> I think empty works as no password
11:46 <@rxr> so no char between the colons
11:46 <@rxr> root::...
11:46 <@rxr> yep, checked
11:47 <@rxr> just remove the x from root:x:...
11:47 < rogermason> ok. i'll try that before I resort to re-installing 8.0.
11:49 < rogermason> in case I do have to rebuild everything, i kept the config dir on another machine. I guess if i started it this morning when i get to work, it would be built by tomorrow.
11:50 < rogermason> at least empty password will be safe with no network.
11:56 <@rxr> I aleady just mailed Alex, the kvm on ppc64 maintainer, so see if he got an idea, before simply reverting the option
12:08 < rogermason> Many thanks. Assuming I can get into the box and fix the pam problem. Do I just need to build the kernel in a trunk tree copied from a usb stick?
12:16 <@rxr> yes, you can just Emerge-Pkg -force linux26 from a trunk tree
12:16 <@rxr> rememeber to disable (e.g. delete, comment) this CONFIG_VIRTUALIZATION line in architectre/shared/...
12:18 < rogermason> yep. Thanks again.
12:19 <@rxr> sorry for the hiccup
12:19 <@rxr> comes from wanting to explore the latest greatest features :-)(
12:19 <@rxr> mailed Alex, he has not seen that issue yet :-(
12:19 <@rxr> currently building such a kernel on my G5 to track this down
12:19 <@rxr> (because KVM on ppc would be a great help for me, if it would work :-)
12:20 < rogermason> it is _trunk_. I understand that there is a bit of risk. Anyway, fixing it may be fun.
12:21 < rogermason> no need to apologise.
12:23 < rogermason> by the way. I sent in a patch for gnumeric back in mid-September, but it seems not to have been added to trunk (I saw the problem it fixed yesterday). shall I send it again?
12:24 <@rxr> guess I just overlooked it, I should still find it
12:24 <@rxr> the touch patch?
12:24 <@rxr> it is still needed, right
12:24 <@rxr> ?
12:27 < rogermason> yes, the touch patch I had to use it yesterday.
12:28 < rogermason> breakfast :-)
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16:29 < CIA-32> rene * r37742 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnumeric/gnumeric.desc:
16:29 < CIA-32> Roger Mason:
16:29 < CIA-32> * fixed gnumeric not to randomly break
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--- Log closed Sat Oct 02 00:00:49 2010
00:35 -!- ahc [~ahc@c-83-233-18-157.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #t2
00:35 < ahc> do you have svn repo to check out package recipes.
00:37 < ahc> nvm I found it
00:41 -!- ahc [~ahc@c-83-233-18-157.cust.bredband2.com] has left #t2 ["Leaving"]
10:24 <@rxr> re
10:24 <@rxr> :-)
10:24 [Users #t2]
10:24 [@ChanServ] [ ch172 ] [ koan] [ mjungwirth] [ mtr ] [ rogermason]
10:24 [@rxr ] [ CIA-32] [ LMJ ] [ mqueiros ] [ orici] [ Stealth ]
10:24 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal]
10:49 < CIA-32> rene * r37737 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-intel/xf86-video-intel.desc: * updated xf86-video-intel (2.12.0 -> 2.13.0)
11:16 < CIA-32> rene * r37738 /trunk/package/x11/fox/fox.desc: * updated fox (1.6.37 -> 1.6.40)
11:18 < rogermason> hello.
11:18 <@rxr> hi roger
11:19 <@rxr> how is your new ppc64 build running on the G5?
11:19 < rogermason> not very well :-(
11:19 <@rxr> oh, why ?
11:19 < rogermason> starting eth0 crashes the kernel
11:20 <@rxr> oh, I had that, too
11:20 <@rxr> I thought it was related to enabled VIRTUALZATION (KVM) in my .config
11:20 <@rxr> but when it happens for you, too, it may be rather a general problem of a latest kernel update :-(
11:20 <@rxr> I think I did not yet commit the KVM for powerpc option
11:20 <@rxr> le me check
11:21 <@rxr> ah, damnit I committed it
11:21 <@rxr> r37560 | rene | 2010-09-08 13:31:13 +0200 (Wed, 08 Sep 2010) | 2 lines
11:21 <@rxr> * generically enable linux kernel VIRTUALIZATION option, e.g. not the default on PPC
11:22 <@rxr> can you in one way or another build a new kernel on the box?
11:22 <@rxr> either without starting networking or the previous install?
11:22 <@rxr> guess I have to slap Alexander for whatever he broke with his ppc KVM bits :-(
11:24 < rogermason> well, I suppose I could put a kernel tree on a USB stick and transfer it to the hd. alternativelly, is there some way to get the initrd + kernel off the boot dvd?
11:25 < rogermason> however, before any of that there is another problem to solve.
11:25 <@rxr> interesting that the bootcd works
11:26 <@rxr> guess just because it does not activate eth0 ?
11:26 <@rxr> what a crazzy bug triggering on ethernet interface activation ... !?!?
11:26 <@rxr> can you log into your current install?
11:26 <@rxr> or did you enable network in the default runlevel services?
11:27 < rogermason> initially it was enabled but I turned it off. So the machine boots and I get a login prompt.
11:27 <@rxr> oh nice
11:27 <@rxr> then the easiest is probably just to transfer a t2 tree or missing downloads via USB
11:28 <@rxr> jsut comment out CONFIG_VIRTUALIZATION in architecture/share/kernel-common.conf.m4
11:29 < rogermason> unfortunately, the root password is not being set during the install, so I cannot log in
11:31 < rogermason> i tried booting the dvd, mounting /dev/sda, chrooting then running passwd. unfortunately
11:31 < rogermason> passwd: Module is unknown
11:31 < rogermason> passwd: password unchanged
11:32 <@rxr> ouhm?
11:33 < CIA-32> rene * r37739 /trunk/package/security/gnutls/gnutls.desc: * updated gnutls (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
11:34 < CIA-32> rene * r37740 /trunk/package/security/freeradius/freeradius.desc: * updated freeradius (2.1.9 -> 2.1.10)
11:34 < CIA-32> rene * r37741 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem-pl-parser/totem-pl-parser.desc: * updated totem-pl-parser (2.30.3 -> 2.30.4)
11:34 < rogermason> i ran tail on /var/log/messages and it looks like a problem with pam. Unfortunately, i could not get out of tail with ctrl-c and had to reboot.
11:34 <@rxr> maybe some cracklib or so moudle not present?
11:35 < rogermason> could be, but the machine seems crippled without functioning tools to fix it.
11:36 <@rxr> you could mount the hd from the install dvd and chroot into it
11:36 <@rxr> and also tweak whatever problem pam got there
11:37 < rogermason> yes, i tried that: "i ran tail on /var/log/messages and it looks like a problem with
11:37 < rogermason> pam. Unfortunately, i could not get out of tail with ctrl-c and
11:37 < rogermason> had to reboot."
11:38 <@rxr> IIRC C-c once worked in the install environment, hm
11:38 <@rxr> but the VT should also work
11:38 <@rxr> did you not got 6 vt's in the installer prompt
11:38 < rogermason> yes
11:41 < rogermason> i wonder. if i boot the 8.0 cd, mount the hd, maybe I can at least get a better idea what is wrong.
11:42 <@rxr> the install cd should not make too much of a difference, or you just reinstall the 8.0 to continue with a little trunk fixup
11:45 < rogermason> is there any way to set a root password directly, just by editing /etc/passwd and/or /etc/shaddow?
11:45 <@rxr> you could disable the password with any editor
11:45 < rogermason> how?
11:45 <@rxr> the 2nd fielf in /etc/password
11:45 <@rxr> I think empty works as no password
11:46 <@rxr> so no char between the colons
11:46 <@rxr> root::...
11:46 <@rxr> yep, checked
11:47 <@rxr> just remove the x from root:x:...
11:47 < rogermason> ok. i'll try that before I resort to re-installing 8.0.
11:49 < rogermason> in case I do have to rebuild everything, i kept the config dir on another machine. I guess if i started it this morning when i get to work, it would be built by tomorrow.
11:50 < rogermason> at least empty password will be safe with no network.
11:56 <@rxr> I aleady just mailed Alex, the kvm on ppc64 maintainer, so see if he got an idea, before simply reverting the option
12:08 < rogermason> Many thanks. Assuming I can get into the box and fix the pam problem. Do I just need to build the kernel in a trunk tree copied from a usb stick?
12:16 <@rxr> yes, you can just Emerge-Pkg -force linux26 from a trunk tree
12:16 <@rxr> rememeber to disable (e.g. delete, comment) this CONFIG_VIRTUALIZATION line in architectre/shared/...
12:18 < rogermason> yep. Thanks again.
12:19 <@rxr> sorry for the hiccup
12:19 <@rxr> comes from wanting to explore the latest greatest features :-)(
12:19 <@rxr> mailed Alex, he has not seen that issue yet :-(
12:19 <@rxr> currently building such a kernel on my G5 to track this down
12:19 <@rxr> (because KVM on ppc would be a great help for me, if it would work :-)
12:20 < rogermason> it is _trunk_. I understand that there is a bit of risk. Anyway, fixing it may be fun.
12:21 < rogermason> no need to apologise.
12:23 < rogermason> by the way. I sent in a patch for gnumeric back in mid-September, but it seems not to have been added to trunk (I saw the problem it fixed yesterday). shall I send it again?
12:24 <@rxr> guess I just overlooked it, I should still find it
12:24 <@rxr> the touch patch?
12:24 <@rxr> it is still needed, right
12:24 <@rxr> ?
12:27 < rogermason> yes, the touch patch I had to use it yesterday.
12:28 < rogermason> breakfast :-)
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16:29 < CIA-32> rene * r37742 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnumeric/gnumeric.desc:
16:29 < CIA-32> Roger Mason
16:29 < CIA-32> * fixed gnumeric not to randomly break
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--- Log closed Sat Oct 02 00:00:49 2010