T2 IRC Log: 2010-08-13

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--- Log opened Fri Aug 13 00:00:49 2010
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10:41 <@rxr> http://t2-project.org/packages/mdadm.html
11:02 < CIA-32> rene * r37198 /trunk/package/gnome2/libsoup/libsoup.desc: * updated libsoup (2.30.1 -> 2.30.2)
11:02 < CIA-32> rene * r37196 /trunk/package/python/python-lxml/python-lxml.desc: * updated python-lxml (2.2.6 -> 2.2.7)
11:02 < CIA-32> rene * r37197 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: * updated poppler (0.14.0 -> 0.14.1)
11:03 < CIA-32> rene * r37200 /trunk/package/security/libksba/libksba.desc: * updated libksba (1.0.7 -> 1.0.8)
11:03 < CIA-32> rene * r37201 /trunk/package/develop/ginac/ginac.desc: * updated ginac (1.5.7 -> 1.5.8)
11:03 < CIA-32> rene * r37199 /trunk/package/gnome2/pessulus/pessulus.desc: * updated pessulus (2.30.0 -> 2.30.2)
11:03 < CIA-32> rene * r37203 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem-pl-parser/totem-pl-parser.desc: * updated totem-pl-parser (2.30.1 -> 2.30.2)
11:03 < CIA-32> rene * r37202 /trunk/package/security/strongswan/strongswan.desc: * updated strongswan (4.4.0 -> 4.4.1)
11:03 < CIA-32> rene * r37204 /trunk/package/multimedia/mlt/ (mlt.conf mlt.desc): * updated mlt (0.4.4 -> 0.5.6)
11:04 < CIA-32> rene * r37206 /trunk/package/lua/lua-posix/lua-posix.desc: * updated lua-posix (5.1.6 -> 5.1.7)
11:04 < CIA-32> rene * r37205 /trunk/package/shells/tcsh/tcsh.desc: * updated tcsh (6.16.00 -> 6.17.00)
11:07 < koan> I want to install a package in 00-minimal, but not in 10-minimal-xorg which includes 00-minimal, how do I do this?
11:08 <@rxr> hm?
11:08 <@rxr> do not understand :-(
11:08 <@rxr> you mean modifing our templates?
11:08 < koan> yes
11:08 <@rxr> or you base (inherit) the template and want to deselect?
11:08 <@rxr> well, in any case deselect is O pkg
11:08 < koan> yesyes deselect a package
11:09 <@rxr> IIRC - removes the pkg alltogether, so that inherited rules can not flip it back on
11:09 <@rxr> but normally use O
11:09 <@rxr> the X/O notation is the same as in the Priority tag which contras which packages are "enabled by default", until one deselects them
11:09 <@rxr> e.g. some contrib / incompatible / alt. C libraries are off by default
11:09 < koan> I want to install nvi when I choose the 00-minimal package set of my netbook target, but I don't want it installed when I choose the 00-minimal-xorg, because I install vim then, and they have shared files
11:10 < koan> so I just deselect nvi in 00-minimal-xorg
11:10 <@rxr> well, touching thos t2 shipped rules is not soo good
11:10 <@rxr> you can not commit them, and have to copy them over in a future update etc.
11:10 < koan> rxr: no I'm speaking of my own target
11:10 <@rxr> best usually define your whole target in target/...
11:10 <@rxr> ok, but your target can have it's own rules? in target/.../pkgsel?
11:11 <@rxr> you can even have optoins, like the embedded target is messing around with fine details when switching between uclibc and dietlibc, ...
11:11 < koan> yes I have copied the generic target now for a start
11:11 <@rxr> ic
11:12 <@rxr> btw. Maybe you misuse Build-Target anyway, when you get those shared files, can it be that you flip the template between Build-Target runs?
11:12 <@rxr> because the nvi and vim package are setup not to share files if they are both selected, ...
11:12 < koan> what do you mean with flip the target?
11:12 <@rxr> flip options in the config, such as the package selection
11:12 < koan> flip the template
11:13 <@rxr> if you want to build your target 2 times with varing package selections you should build it twice with 2 configs
11:13 < koan> well I changed something in the pkgsel, yes
11:13 <@rxr> otherwise you get such conflicts that would not appear with from-scratch builds
11:13 <@rxr> well, of course you can alter the package selection, but then you may get such glitches
11:13 < koan> ok nice to know
11:14 <@rxr> because if vim and nvi where both selected when they where built, they would not have installed the same vi symlink
11:14 <@rxr> though that is nvi and vim package specific anyway
11:14 <@rxr> not many package do such tricks
11:14 < koan> but do I have to rebuild the whole target if I want to test if a specific pkgsel builds correctly?
11:15 <@rxr> no, not really, of course one can make tinier changes as one goes
11:15 <@rxr> but major changes will lead to trouble, such as chancing the kernel, libc, etc. option ...
11:15 <@rxr> you hit the light case with nvi vs. vim
11:15 <@rxr> if you permanently want to build 2 package selections use 2 configs and 2 build-target's
11:16 <@rxr> e.g. -cfg netbook -cfg desktop or so
11:16 < koan> ok
11:16 <@rxr> that way you get 2 destrinct sandboxes, and as such matching binary trees
11:21 < CIA-32> rene * r37207 /trunk/package/x11/fvwm/fvwm.desc: * updated fvwm (2.5.30 -> 2.5.31)
11:27 < CIA-32> rene * r37208 /trunk/package/printing/gutenprint/gutenprint.desc:
11:27 < CIA-32> luisbf :
11:27 < CIA-32> * updated gutenprint (5.2.4 -> 5.2.6)
11:27 < CIA-32> rene * r37209 /trunk/package/graphic/exiv2/exiv2.desc:
11:27 < CIA-32> luisbf :
11:27 < CIA-32> * updated exiv2 (0.19 -> 0.20)
11:32 < CIA-32> rene * r37210 /trunk/package/multimedia/sonata/ (. sonata.cache sonata.desc):
11:32 < CIA-32> luisbf :
11:32 < CIA-32> * added sonata (1.6.2.1) - An elegant Gtk+ music client for MPD
11:44 < CIA-32> rene * r37211 /trunk/package/develop/mpich2/ (. disable-tests.patch mpich2.cache mpich2.conf mpich2.desc):
11:44 < CIA-32> Roger Mason :
11:44 < CIA-32> * added mpich2 (1.2.1p1) - Message Passing Interface - Argonne National Laboratories
11:56 < CIA-32> rene * r37212 /trunk/package/network/dhcp/dhcp-bind.patch.cross:
11:56 < CIA-32> "Dmitry S. Vasilchenko" :
11:56 < CIA-32> * fixed dhcp to cross compile, again
12:11 < rogermason> Hello. I tried yesterday to encrypt my home directory using cryptfs (without success). When I boot I now get "bad magic number in superblock while trying to open /dev/sda4". I presume I'll need to boot a CD/USB stick and re-format?
12:12 <@rxr> I'm not using this, guess best to ask aldas
12:16 < CIA-32> rene * r37213 /trunk/package/x11/mesa/ (compile.patch.cross mesa_use_correct_linker.patch.cross):
12:16 < CIA-32> Rich Coe :
12:16 < CIA-32> * fixed mesa to cross compile, again
12:24 < CIA-32> rene * r37214 /trunk/package/xorg/libx11/keysymdef_include.patch.cross:
12:24 < CIA-32> Rich Coe :
12:24 < CIA-32> * reverted and rediffed an libx11 cross compile patch
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16:43 < CIA-32> aldas * r37216 /trunk/package/security/clamav/clamav.desc: * updated clamav (0.96 -> 0.96.2)
16:43 < CIA-32> aldas * r37217 /trunk/package/develop/icecream/icecream.desc: * updated icecream (0.9.0 -> 0.9.6)
16:51 < CIA-32> aldas * r37219 /trunk/package/network/lighttpd/lighttpd.desc: * updated lighttpd (1.4.26 -> 1.4.27)
16:53 < CIA-32> aldas * r37218 /trunk/package/develop/mono-doc/: * removed mono-doc, it's bundled in mono sources since 2.2
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17:00 < Baldzius> moin
17:03 < CIA-32> aldas * r37215 /trunk/package/contrib/rrdtool/rrdtool.desc: * updated rrdtool (1.3.8 -> 1.4.4)
17:50 <@rxr> moin moin Baldzius
17:50 < Baldzius> hey rxr
18:14 <@rxr> Baldzius: may update to linux26 .4 and then 2.6.35.1
18:14 <@rxr> just testing
18:15 < Baldzius> .35 should be fine
18:16 < Baldzius> tested last weekend
18:16 < Baldzius> I guess there's no unionfs patch yet?
18:52 < CIA-32> rene * r37220 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.34.2 -> 2.6.34.3)
18:53 <@rxr> yes, fails, again
19:14 <@rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/unionfs.html
19:36 <@rxr> unionfs has, but aufs2 not yet :-(
19:58 <@rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/aufs.html
20:02 < Baldzius> rxr: could you run download script for 8.0, there's lots of source files not on server
20:06 < CIA-32> aldas * r37221 /branches/8.0/package/multimedia/libmikmod/libmikmod.desc:
20:06 < CIA-32> * merged r37161 and r37162 from trunk to branches/8.0:
20:06 < CIA-32> updated libmikmod (3.1.10 -> 3.1.11)
20:06 < CIA-32> mark libmikmod AUTOMAKE-QUIRK to build on x86-64, et al.
20:15 < Baldzius> this weekend will push all commits from my 8.0 ref build
20:16 < Baldzius> lots of fixes
20:18 <@rxr> :-)
20:18 <@rxr> please trunk first, and 8.0 merge in 24h distance, so I can scream if something break majorly before teh "stable" branch is affected :-)
20:20 < Baldzius> it's all done on 8.0
20:20 < Baldzius> all fixes
20:20 < Baldzius> it's compile fix only
20:20 <@rxr> ok ok, I'll remeind you when something breaks :-)
20:21 < Baldzius> how can it break something when it fixes package from non compiling to compile ? :)
20:21 <@rxr> yeah, if is is just a local package
20:21 <@rxr> just the parse-config config.in and other trickery is more dangours
20:21 < Baldzius> no changes in those files
20:21 < Baldzius> it's fix only
20:22 <@rxr> our aufs* pacakges are a mess :-(
20:22 < Baldzius> and there will be some updates but again , to fix compile
20:22 < Baldzius> I am not touching packages if they compile
20:22 <@rxr> :-)
20:22 < Baldzius> build stops, I fix and continue
20:22 <@rxr> sounds very good
20:22 < Baldzius> and 3rd day already
20:23 < Baldzius> ya, also I will disable lots of old and non compiling packages by default
20:23 < Baldzius> no point having package enabled if it doesn't compile
20:23 < Baldzius> no rm though
20:23 < Baldzius> there are lots of ancient packages, and can't fix them myself
20:24 < Baldzius> also no point, only time consuming
20:24 < Baldzius> will break with next glibc/gcc update anyway
20:24 < Baldzius> waste of resources
20:24 < Baldzius> human ^^^
20:27 < Baldzius> and with that linux26 update it can happy to anyone, who would guess that going from 2.6.34.1 -> 2.6.34.2 would bring so much mess?
20:27 < Baldzius> happen*
20:28 < Baldzius> it was damn minor update
20:28 <@rxr> yeah
20:29 < Baldzius> usually I have a good sense if something bad is going to happen
20:29 < Baldzius> apparently I lost it :/
20:29 < Baldzius> before it worked perfectly
20:30 < Baldzius> anyway I will know now that can't trust linux kernel guys blindly
20:35 < Baldzius> going home
20:35 < Baldzius> later
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20:48 <@rxr> cu
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21:27 < CIA-32> rene * r37228 /trunk/package/filesystem/unionfs/ (linux-2.6.34.1.diff unionfs.desc): * updated unionfs kernel sources for 2.6.35
21:36 < CIA-32> aldas * r37222 /branches/8.0/package/printing/foomatic-filters/foomatic-filters.desc:
21:36 < CIA-32> * merged r37163 from trunk to branches/8.0:
21:36 < CIA-32> updated foomatic-filters (3.0-20081204 -> 4.0.5)
22:09 < CIA-32> aldas * r37226 /branches/8.0/package/graphic/libpng/libpng.desc:
22:09 < CIA-32> * merged r37182 from trunk to branches/8.0
22:09 < CIA-32> updated libpng (1.2.42 -> 1.2.44)
22:09 < CIA-32> security update
22:10 < CIA-32> aldas * r37224 /branches/8.0/package/multimedia/xvidcap/ (shmproto_inclusion.patch xvidcap.cache):
22:10 < CIA-32> * merged r37165 from trunk to branches/8.0:
22:10 < CIA-32> fixed xvidcap to build with altest xorg headers
22:11 < CIA-32> aldas * r37225 /branches/8.0/package/x11/freetype/freetype.desc:
22:11 < CIA-32> * merged r36791, r36801 and r37117 from trunk to branches/8.0:
22:11 < CIA-32> updated freetype (2.3.12 -> 2.4.0 -> 2.4.1 -> 2.4.2)
22:11 < CIA-32> security update
22:18 < CIA-32> aldas * r37223 /branches/8.0/package/gnome2/gtkglext/deprecatedmacros.patch:
22:18 < CIA-32> * merged r37175 from trunk to branches/8.0:
22:18 < CIA-32> fixed gtkglext not to use deprecated macros
23:18 < CIA-32> rene * r37227 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.34.3 -> 2.6.35.1)
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