--- Log opened Tue Jun 22 00:00:05 2010 09:13 -!- mjungwirth [~mjungwirt@213.174.252.112] has joined #t2 09:14 < mjungwirth> moin 09:17 -!- T-One [~T-One@194.183.141.238] has joined #t2 09:17 < mjungwirth> one question. i use pam. in the configuration files i found pam_cracklib.so but the binary not exists! where is ist? 09:18 < mjungwirth> it 09:19 < mjungwirth> and pam_console is also not available 09:52 -!- PurpleDaisy [~PurpleDai@174-19-148-30.bois.qwest.net] has joined #t2 09:52 < PurpleDaisy> anyone here 09:56 < mjungwirth> yes 10:00 < PurpleDaisy> i have not setup my dev machine yet, my sys is only 32 bit 10:01 < PurpleDaisy> should i dl 8.0 rc & update the kernal to 2.6? 10:01 < PurpleDaisy> or is it already 2.6? 10:06 < mjungwirth> the kernel is already 2.6 10:08 < PurpleDaisy> thank you, on less thing to worry about 10:54 -!- Baldzius [~aldas@87-198-133-94.ptr.magnet.ie] has joined #t2 10:54 < Baldzius> moin 11:01 < PurpleDaisy> good night, might have more qst in morning 11:03 < PurpleDaisy> part 11:04 -!- PurpleDaisy [~PurpleDai@174-19-148-30.bois.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: I just clicked the 'X' in Vortec IRC - http://www.vortecirc.com] 11:13 -!- CIA-31 [cia@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:44 -!- CIA-29 [cia@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 12:18 -!- trscod [~trscod@fo023.i24.mi.ru] has joined #t2 12:23 < trscod> Hello! I am a newbie in t2. Rad hendbook & not understand how can i add or del package to target. In config menu i use show expert and experimental options. Then i look for package list. I know that i need set up 0 or X behind the package, but how? 12:25 < rxr> I think the option is named custom package selection 12:33 < trscod> there is "package selection rules" and needence to add new rule. What rule i am to add? Strings like in config file? 12:40 < trscod> i am a gentoo user and try to find similarity T2 auto bilding to portage 12:57 < trscod> may be there any forum? 12:58 < trscod> pardon, may be there is any forum? 12:58 < trscod> for t2 beginners 14:27 < Baldzius> trscod : Edit package selection rules "X cups" to add cups "O cups" to remove cups, without quotes 14:27 < Baldzius> in general I would recommend not doing so as you might end up with dependecies failure 14:28 < Baldzius> I would recommend building general target and playing a little bit around it 14:29 < Baldzius> I also came from gentoo and found it much better although it took some time to get used to it 14:29 < Baldzius> community is much smaller here so it takes time to get some help 14:29 < Baldzius> but documentation should be pretty good 14:30 < Baldzius> at least last time I used it 14:34 < trscod> thanks for answering 14:34 < trscod> I understand, that dependency packeges are to be added manually too? 14:35 < Baldzius> yes, config doesn't handle dependencies 14:36 < Baldzius> myself I pick general build 14:36 < Baldzius> and then compile afterwards I have system installed on host 14:36 < Baldzius> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -deps=indirect cups 14:36 < Baldzius> or deps=none 14:36 < Baldzius> depends what you need 14:37 < Baldzius> usually I use deps=none 14:37 < Baldzius> and if package fails of missing dependency then I do same for missing package 14:38 < Baldzius> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dry-run some_package 14:39 < Baldzius> it's all about "do it yourself" 14:41 < trscod> an package list in main menu contains dependencies, or only main packages like world in gentoo? 14:43 < trscod> main menu - is ./script/Config menu :) 14:43 < CIA-29> rene * r36633 /trunk/package/perl/imager/imager.desc: * updated imager (0.74 -> 0.75) 14:43 < CIA-29> rene * r36632 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/wine.desc: * updated wine (1.2-rc3 -> 1.2-rc4) 14:44 < CIA-29> rene * r36634 /trunk/package/x11/worker/worker.desc: * updated worker (2.17.6 -> 2.17.7) 14:44 < CIA-29> rene * r36635 /trunk/package/multimedia/live/live.desc: * updated live (2010.06.16a -> 2010.06.18) 14:46 < Baldzius> yes, they are harcoded as targets 14:47 < Baldzius> full package list would be enabled if you pick reference target 14:47 < Baldzius> but I use it for full package tree compile test 14:48 < Baldzius> (generic) Generic System │ │ 14:48 < Baldzius> │ │ (minimal-desktop) Minimalistic package selection, X.org and basic desktop │ │ 14:48 < Baldzius> │ │ (install) Install CD / disks 14:48 < Baldzius> is good for beginning 14:52 < trscod> yes, for first time i'll try to compile little and minimal, but alive OS 14:52 < Baldzius> never tried live cd 14:53 < Baldzius> myself I always use Minimalistic package selection template 14:53 < Baldzius> and then get all I want 14:54 < rxr> btw. I'm in holiday, just if anyonjust in case someone asks ... 14:54 < Baldzius> how long? 14:55 < rxr> about 10 days or so left 14:56 < Baldzius> ok, enjoy :) 14:57 < rxr> thanks 14:57 < Baldzius> no wonder VM is so fast :) 14:58 < rxr> no, the other VMs are on the 6core :-) 14:58 < rxr> and we now have an external server 14:58 < rxr> most high traffic stuff now goes to that 14:59 < rxr> so the line is also less saturated 14:59 < rxr> should have better ssh latency 15:03 < Baldzius> cool 15:03 < trscod> Baldzius: thanks for answers! 15:03 < trscod> Do you know, is there something like stage4 of host OS? I'd like to chroot to unpacked stage from gentoo & build T2 target whithout versions problems. Or there are any features? 15:03 < rxr> yep, t2-project.org will be one of the next sites to move 15:04 < Baldzius> trscod : there are iso images with packages inside 15:05 < Baldzius> you can do it all manually 15:05 < Baldzius> works like charm 15:05 < rxr> cu then 15:05 < Baldzius> bye 15:06 -!- mqueiros_ [~mqueiros@a81-84-7-92.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #t2 15:11 < trscod> on what time (GMT) leave people from this channel? :) 15:12 < trscod> pardon, live ^) 15:16 < Baldzius> hard to say, rxr is on CEST , myself on IST 15:16 < Baldzius> not sure about others :) 15:16 < Baldzius> ~ so GMT (+1) 16:24 -!- Baldzius [~aldas@87-198-133-94.ptr.magnet.ie] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:07 -!- T-One [~T-One@194.183.141.238] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:36 -!- trscod [~trscod@fo023.i24.mi.ru] has left #t2 [] 22:21 -!- Stealth [stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit [Quit: Dont wait to die to find paradise...] 22:24 -!- Stealth [stealth@probe.vaygr.net] has joined #t2 22:24 -!- Stealth [stealth@probe.vaygr.net] has quit [Changing host] 22:24 -!- Stealth [stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 22:36 -!- mjungwirth [~mjungwirt@213.174.252.112] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] --- Log closed Wed Jun 23 00:00:05 2010