--- Log opened Fri Sep 04 00:00:05 2009 00:06 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.67.139] has left #t2 [] 00:09 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.67.139] has joined #t2 00:21 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.67.139] has left #t2 [] 03:07 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 03:07 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 03:54 -!- synchris [n=synchris@adsl190-61.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #t2 05:38 -!- Cyno [n=Cyno@dsl-67-55-3-89.acanac.net] has joined #t2 05:38 -!- Cyno [n=Cyno@dsl-67-55-3-89.acanac.net] has left #t2 [] 05:49 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.67.139] has joined #t2 05:49 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.67.139] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:49 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.67.139] has joined #t2 06:08 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.67.139] has left #t2 [] 07:37 -!- mpp [n=mpp@2a01:48:251:107:203:dff:fe13:6c9e] has joined #t2 07:37 < mpp> moinsen 07:50 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.67.139] has joined #t2 08:43 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has joined #t2 08:44 -!- synchris [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:52 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.67.139] has left #t2 [] 09:21 < jncneo> good morning! 09:21 < rxr> moin 09:22 < jncneo> need your help very much 09:23 < jncneo> i have a problem with coreutils in embedded target... 09:23 < rxr> oh oh 09:24 < jncneo> here is an error: 09:24 < jncneo> make[2]: Entering directory `/root/t2-trunk/src.coreutils.default.20090903.202021.8513.t2-build/coreutils-7.5/man' 09:24 < jncneo> GEN seq.1 09:24 < jncneo> help2man: can't get `--help' info from seq.td/seq 09:24 < jncneo> make[2]: *** [seq.1] Error 127 09:25 < jncneo> i've tyed to search info about this but had no result :( 09:25 < rxr> it's just about man pages 09:26 < rxr> maybe a too new or old help2man 09:26 < jncneo> is there any way just to ignore them? 09:26 < rxr> you can alway modify, patch a package to leave out stuff 09:26 < jncneo> in my target i have no need in man pages... 09:28 < jncneo> strange is that i was able to compile it in generic target.. 09:30 < jncneo> and one more question: is there any way to add package to target after it started building? 09:30 < rxr> sure, just modify the pkgsel 09:31 < jncneo> and i don't need to start building from the begining it this case? 09:31 < rxr> well, if it's a regular package no 09:31 < rxr> if that is an optional dependency of some package you would probably, sometimes want to rebuild them to have this new dep 09:32 < jncneo> what do you mean: regular package? 09:32 < jncneo> ah! that 09:32 < rxr> a normal program, like bash or sed 09:32 < jncneo> thanks 09:32 < rxr> a library like libtiff or libalsa, or even libX11 will probably allow other packages to use it 09:42 < mpp> hey guys 09:42 < mpp> i am currently full indexing package sources 09:43 < mpp> lets see how my pc does with heavy duty db operations 09:43 < mpp> :-) 09:43 < jncneo> wow :) 09:43 < mpp> i kinda need this ... 09:43 < mpp> lot's of errors only get solved by knowing what's in the packets 09:44 < mpp> google has no way of doing this 09:44 < mpp> (who would have thought that) 09:44 < mpp> i already tried & kicked a dozen of search engines 09:45 < mpp> no joy there ... 09:45 < jncneo> strange.. 09:45 < mpp> try it your self 09:45 < mpp> search for a phrase of an error you got 09:46 < mpp> and try figuring what package you should investigate further 09:46 < mpp> i mean the implication is clear 09:46 < jncneo> yesterday it gave no result :( 09:46 < mpp> full text indexing all gnu oss packages is way beyond the current computing capacity on the planet.... 09:47 < mpp> indices explode 09:47 < mpp> the famous log(o(n)) stuff .... 09:47 < mpp> :-) 09:47 < jncneo> :) 09:47 < mpp> gee i had too much go playing today 09:47 < mpp> got my ass kicked once again 09:47 < mpp> :-( 09:48 < jncneo> lol :) 09:48 < mpp> how the hell do you get 2 be a 9d player 09:48 < mpp> heaven knows 09:48 < mpp> :-) * *** 09:49 < mpp> time for some coffee ..... yeahh! 09:51 < mpp> http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/09/03/2330224/Attractive-Women-Make-Men-Temporarily-Stupid 09:51 < mpp> LOL :-)))) 09:51 < CIA-69> rene * r34141 /trunk/package/scientific/gnuplot/gnuplot.desc: * updated gnuplot (4.2.5 -> 4.2.6) 09:51 < CIA-69> rene * r34140 /trunk/package/base/mtools/mtools.desc: * updated mtools (4.0.10 -> 4.0.11) 09:52 < CIA-69> rene * r34142 /trunk/package/xorg/fontconfig/fontconfig.desc: * updated fontconfig (2.7.1 -> 2.7.2) 09:52 < mpp> and stupid women are attractive to dump man i guess 09:52 < CIA-69> rene * r34143 /trunk/package/gnome2/gmime/gmime.desc: * updated gmime (2.4.8 -> 2.4.9) 09:52 < CIA-69> rene * r34144 /trunk/package/gnome2/tomboy/tomboy.desc: * updated tomboy (0.15.4 -> 0.15.6) 09:52 < mpp> LOLOL 09:52 < CIA-69> rene * r34145 /trunk/package/security/fwbuilder/fwbuilder.desc: * updated fwbuilder (3.0.5 -> 3.0.6) 09:52 < jncneo> LOLLL ЖВ 09:52 < jncneo> :) 09:52 < mpp> wtf 09:52 < CIA-69> rene * r34146 /trunk/package/audio/mpd/mpd.desc: * updated mpd (0.15.2 -> 0.15.3) 09:53 < mpp> people seem to have lot's of spare time making then even dumber 09:53 < mpp> iLOLOLOLi 09:53 < mpp> k enough phrasing for today 09:53 < mpp> b2b 09:53 < jncneo> heh... :D 09:53 < mpp> so where are u located jncneo 09:53 < jncneo> Ukraine 09:54 < mpp> ah .. 09:54 < jncneo> far-far-away :) 09:54 < mpp> the nation with the most dense elo-ratio in chess history 09:54 < jncneo> and you? 09:54 < mpp> germany 09:54 < mpp> i thinke ... (elo) 09:55 < jncneo> the country with the fastest speedways :) 09:55 < jncneo> you like chess? 09:57 < mpp> yes i do play some 09:57 < mpp> but recently i discovered go . that's a no go for chess ! :-) 09:57 < rxr> I think the highway thing is a myths 09:57 < mpp> it is 09:57 < rxr> we have (way too many) speed limits these days 09:57 < mpp> as speed limits take over our beloved country :-) 09:57 < mpp> LOL 09:57 < jncneo> LOL 09:58 < rxr> I guess something like the US state Montanna or so we probably have fewer limits 09:58 < mpp> LOL 09:58 < mpp> the outcomes of democracy 09:58 < mpp> :-) 09:58 < jncneo> we have very stong speed limits... 09:58 < mpp> i can imaginge 09:58 < mpp> especially in winter LOL 09:58 < jncneo> but we also have mabe the worst roads in the world :) 09:58 < mpp> LOLOL 09:59 < jncneo> :) 09:59 < mpp> oh boy - iguess i missed the coffee cup somehow 09:59 < jncneo> coffee! good idea! 09:59 < mpp> ah.. 09:59 < jncneo> afk 2 minutes 09:59 < mpp> dito 10:00 < rxr> ok - montanna and nevada neither do look too good anymore: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_the_United_States 10:01 -!- csiadmin [n=csiadmin@81.144.152.52] has joined #t2 10:02 < jncneo> not so bad... 10:02 < mpp> sorry dude 10:02 < mpp> hey csiadmin 10:02 < mpp> today i have som more time on my hands 4 u my friend 10:02 < csiadmin> morning mpp - hope you're good 10:02 < mpp> likewise 10:03 < mpp> cisadmin: bring me up to speed with your project 10:03 < mpp> maybe we can work something out 10:06 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@217.70.75.151] has quit [Client Quit] 10:06 < csiadmin> mpp: very little progress I'm afraid. I booted from a t2 v7 disk, then stuck in my own build and installed (inc grub), manually copied the kernel from the v7 disk and modified grub. Still get message stage2 cannot be found. :-$ 10:08 < mpp> does the cd boot fine in other computers? 10:09 < jncneo> rxr: would it be enough if i just comment line running help2man in makefile? 10:09 < rxr> maybe 10:09 < csiadmin> mpp: it boots ok in a sun box I have and it also works in vmware 10:09 < rxr> maybe you need to comment a second trying to copy the file 10:10 < jncneo> man file? 10:10 < mpp> hm... 10:10 < mpp> than it's a driver issue 10:10 < mpp> defin. 10:10 < mpp> k so we need to verify with a rescue t2 image same revision as your boot-cd 10:10 < mpp> what svn rev is you bootcd 10:11 < csiadmin> mpp: just checking... 10:11 < mpp> k 10:13 < csiadmin> mpp: my t2-trunk dir is 34146, cd is probably slightly older 10:13 < mpp> not possible 10:13 < mpp> 34146 is not commited 10:14 < mpp> http://svn.exactcode.de/ChangeLog-t2 10:14 < mpp> :-) 10:14 < rxr> the log is lagging some hours 10:14 < mpp> ah sorry 10:14 < mpp> youre right 10:15 < rxr> only regenerated (actually delta appended) every few hours 10:15 < mpp> my fault 10:15 < csiadmin> mpp: you had me there for a sec :-) 10:16 < mpp> sorry dude 10:16 < mpp> :-) 10:16 < mpp> k so . do u consider building your own target for an installer 10:16 < mpp> cause that would save us all some time 10:17 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2009-09-04/first-gen-aluminum-iphone-looked-gorgeous/ 10:17 < csiadmin> mpp: do you mean have I specified my own target for the build? 10:17 < rxr> had too google the spelling of gorgeous, brings up some nice pictures, too: 10:17 < mpp> yep 10:17 < rxr> http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=gorgeous&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi 10:17 < mpp> cause i have one up and running for some time now 10:17 < mpp> 2 year approx. 10:17 < mpp> i modified the rescue target 10:17 < csiadmin> mpp: yeah I've created my own, just a copy of generic with the extra packages I needed 10:18 < mpp> k so.... ? 10:18 < jncneo> rxr: as i understood, when i'm running Build-Target it every time unpacks package from archive, right? 10:19 < mpp> jncneo: i think so 10:19 < CIA-69> rene * r34147 /trunk/package/archiver/tnef/tnef.desc: * updated tnef (1.4.5 -> 1.4.6) 10:19 < rxr> only the final image creation 10:19 < csiadmin> mpp: this is the one that's not booting - how do I create the rescue image 10:19 < jncneo> in that case how can i modify makefile? 10:19 < rxr> jncneo: I would need to look too, I do not know any Makefile completely memorized in my head, sorry 10:20 < csiadmin> mpp: I could boot ok from the rescue cd I got from you a few days back 10:20 < jncneo> rxr: I just couldn't find it... 10:22 < rxr> mayve it is implicit? my specifing the destinations and haveing a generic rule to match and copy them ? 10:22 < rxr> (just guessing, I did not review that particularly file) 10:23 < jncneo> hmm... ok i'll check 10:23 < mpp> than why not modify a rescue target to have a custom installer based on it 10:23 < mpp> ? 10:23 < mpp> it's very simple 10:24 < mpp> i can even pass you my own target for what it's worth 10:24 < jncneo> anyway i should have a look incide of archive? 10:24 < rxr> definetly 10:25 < jncneo> custom installer? 10:26 < csiadmin> mpp: this sounds good, how I go about it? 10:26 < mpp> ill up i up at dl2 temp. if rxr: agrees 10:27 < mpp> cause it's offical mirro space so i do not modify wihtout permission 10:27 < mpp> rxr: can i up a custom target to dl2 for a day or so ? 10:30 < rxr> theoretically, though our bandwidth is not amazing 10:31 < mpp> i would up only to dl2 10:32 < mpp> got plenty of bw there 10:36 < rxr> ah you, sure 10:38 < mpp> thanx 10:48 < rxr> maybe in some /unofficial/ directory 10:52 < mpp> k 10:52 < mpp> i'll have to tidy up the target first 11:00 -!- T-One [n=T-One@62.218.122.66] has quit ["Verlassend"] 12:01 -!- synchris [n=synchris@adsl44-184.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #t2 12:18 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:53 < mpp> afk 13:20 -!- T-One [n=T-One@62.218.122.66] has joined #t2 14:03 < CIA-69> rene * r34148 /trunk/package/graphic/libraw/libraw.desc: * updated libraw (0.8.1 -> 0.8.2) 15:02 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.67.139] has joined #t2 15:58 < rxr> going to exchange the USP, so a forced reboot of the server, cu then 16:24 < rxr> so 16:32 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/apcupsd.html 16:46 < the_rainbow> hello rxr 16:46 < the_rainbow> why can't I post to the t2 mailing list? 16:47 < rxr> you did post 16:47 < rxr> the ntp patch? 16:48 < the_rainbow> yep right 16:48 < the_rainbow> ah okay 16:48 < the_rainbow> I received a failure of my post on my inbox 16:49 < the_rainbow> seems that the failure was about another post 16:50 < the_rainbow> did you add the patch to t2 trunk? 16:50 < rxr> not yt 16:50 < rxr> yet, will soon 16:50 < the_rainbow> okay 16:51 < rxr> can you fwd. me the error message? 16:51 < rxr> rene at t2-project dot org 16:52 < the_rainbow> okay 16:53 < the_rainbow> sent 16:58 < rxr> I meant the error mail you got :-) 16:59 < rxr> ok - cu later 16:59 < the_rainbow> sent 17:00 < rxr> something is mangling the Return-path :-( 17:00 < rxr> either the c**py list software or our MTA, need to hunt 17:05 < the_rainbow> okay 17:05 < the_rainbow> if you need any help let me know 17:11 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@77.49.171.184] has joined #t2 17:13 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: koan, synchris 17:15 -!- Netsplit over, joins: synchris, koan 17:15 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:16 -!- synchris [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 17:34 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.67.139] has left #t2 [] 17:39 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 18:16 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.67.139] has joined #t2 18:30 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.67.139] has left #t2 [] 18:50 -!- jncneo [n=alex@91.195.10.75] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:05 -!- mpp [n=mpp@2a01:48:251:107:203:dff:fe13:6c9e] has quit ["Verlassend"] 19:05 -!- csiadmin [n=csiadmin@81.144.152.52] has quit [] 19:12 -!- Stealth [i=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:15 -!- Stealth [i=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 19:18 -!- synchris [n=synchris@adsl189-25.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #t2 19:26 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 19:55 < rxr> re 20:09 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@adsl164-74.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #t2 20:09 < rxr> re 20:15 < rxr> finally 20:16 -!- rxr [n=rene@85.183.32.143] has joined #t2 20:16 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org 20:16 -!- Topic set by H4X [] [Tue Jun 26 17:57:25 2007] 20:16 [Users #t2] 20:16 [@ChanServ] [ koan] [ mjungwirth] [ oliv`] [ Stealth ] [ synchris_] 20:16 [ CIA-69 ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ synchris] [ TobiX ] 20:16 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 20:16 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Nov 26 07:44:08 2006 20:16 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 7 secs 20:25 -!- synchris [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:32 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20:32 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 20:38 -!- synchris [n=synchris@adsl153-189.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #t2 20:44 -!- _| [n=joeDeuce@pdpc/supporter/student/joeDeuce] has joined #T2 20:55 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:17 -!- _| [n=joeDeuce@pdpc/supporter/student/joeDeuce] has quit ["+++ OK ATH OK"] 22:54 < rxr> re 22:59 [Users #t2] 22:59 [@ChanServ] [ koan] [ mjungwirth] [ oliv`] [ Stealth ] [ TobiX] 22:59 [ CIA-69 ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ synchris] 22:59 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] --- Log closed Sat Sep 05 00:00:43 2009