--- Log opened Fri Feb 27 00:00:13 2009 00:01 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 00:06 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 05:29 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @ChanServ 05:30 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #t2 05:30 -!- ServerMode/#t2 [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net 09:10 -!- T-One [n=T-One@62.218.122.66] has joined #t2 10:43 < CIA-23> rene * r32452 /trunk/package/scientific/mpfr/mpfr.desc: * updated mpfr (2.4.0 -> 2.4.1) 10:43 < CIA-23> rene * r32453 /trunk/package/develop/ginac/ginac.desc: * updated ginac (1.5.0 -> 1.5.1) 10:43 < CIA-23> rene * r32451 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-input-hyperpen/xf86-input-hyperpen.desc: * updated xf86-input-hyperpen (1.2.0 -> 1.3.0) 10:43 < CIA-23> rene * r32454 /trunk/package/x11/fvwm/fvwm.desc: * updated fvwm (2.5.26 -> 2.5.27) 10:47 < CIA-23> rene * r32455 /trunk/package/network/mldonkey/mldonkey.desc: * updated mldonkey (2.9.7 -> 3.0.0) 10:47 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-084-057-249-069.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 10:54 < CIA-23> rene * r32456 /trunk/package/www/midori/ (midori.conf midori.desc): * updated midori (0.20 -> 0.1.3) 14:01 < CIA-23> rene * r32457 /trunk/package/develop/php/php.desc: * updated php (5.2.8 -> 5.2.9) 14:27 -!- T-One [n=T-One@62.218.122.66] has quit ["Verlassend"] 14:28 < CIA-23> rene * r32458 /trunk/package/base/man-pages/man-pages.desc: * updated man-pages (3.18 -> 3.19) 14:30 < CIA-23> rene * r32459 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-dict-plugin/xfce4-dict-plugin.cache: * added xfce4-dict-plugin 15:05 -!- Baldzius [n=aldas@87-198-133-94.ptr.magnet.ie] has joined #t2 15:05 < Baldzius> moin 15:06 < Baldzius> rxr: are you doing xfce4 update? 15:06 < Baldzius> as I have it mostly done 15:27 < Baldzius> ok I have it all done 15:36 < rxr> Baldzius: I only did a quick curl | sed | Update-Pkg run 15:36 < rxr> not much built yet .-) 15:36 < rxr> just commit .-) 15:39 < Baldzius> cool 15:43 < Baldzius> crap 15:44 < Baldzius> I've deleted libxfce4mcs xfce-mcs-plugins and xfce-mcs-manager and forgot that I had them already compiled on my ref build 15:44 < Baldzius> dammit 15:44 < Baldzius> they all went into new cache files 15:44 < rxr> sed //d -i ... 15:45 < Baldzius> but I want to make sure that xfce4 definently builts without them 15:45 < Baldzius> how can i remove package from build? 15:46 < rxr> mine -rf -R build/... package-name 15:49 < Baldzius> need to put it down 15:49 < Baldzius> I think I had it before but lost :) 15:50 < Baldzius> s/put/write/ 15:50 < rxr> best would be if we extend Create-ErrList -newremove / -newdelete to honor delete packages and wipe the in-build-sandbox package content accordingly 15:57 < Baldzius> sounds good 16:12 < CIA-23> aldas * r32460 /trunk/package/ (57 files in 37 dirs): (log message trimmed) 16:12 < CIA-23> * updated xfce4 (4.4.2 -> 4.6.0), including: 16:12 < CIA-23> updated xfce4-terminal (0.2.8 -> 0.2.10) 16:12 < CIA-23> updated libexo (0.3.4 -> 0.3.100) 16:12 < CIA-23> changed libexo build priority (700.000 -> 223.400) 16:12 < CIA-23> updated xfce-utils (4.4.2 -> 4.6.0) 16:12 < Baldzius> should be fine 16:12 < CIA-23> added libxfce4menu (4.6.0) - Xfce4 desktop menu library 16:12 < Baldzius> evertyhing was compiled with those stupid packages 16:12 < Baldzius> tried couple of them without and it didn't fail 16:13 < Baldzius> so hopefully it's fine 16:16 < CIA-23> rene * r32461 /trunk/architecture/blackfin/package/uclibc/error_print_progname.patch: 16:16 < CIA-23> Michael Iedema : 16:16 < CIA-23> * fixed uclibc for blackfin 16:20 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-084-057-249-069.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 17:25 -!- Baldzius [n=aldas@87-198-133-94.ptr.magnet.ie] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:38 -!- tri [n=tri@p4FCF1E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 18:45 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2009-02-27/a-companion-for-your-sub-notebook-and-yourself/ 18:45 [Users #t2] 18:45 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul] [ mtr] [ SerWou ] [ Stealth ] [ TobiX] 18:45 [ CIA-23 ] [ koan ] [ rxr] [ Skaperen] [ synchris] [ tri ] 18:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 18:51 -!- tri [n=tri@p4FCF1E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Leaving."] 19:10 < koan> rxr: that looks like a woman's handbag :p 19:11 < rxr> don't think so :-) 19:13 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2009-02-27/the-state-of-gpgpu/ 19:13 < rxr> maybe you enjoy that more :-) 19:16 < koan> good post 19:17 < koan> so you don't believe OpenCL will change the situation for GPGPU? 19:17 < rxr> as long as the drivers are such a messy mess ... 19:17 < rxr> and we are still quite away from an open source OpenCL implementation 19:17 < rxr> (, anyway) 19:18 < rxr> I think the GPUs are not really up to really accelerate general purpose programs anyway 19:18 < rxr> for that a setup liek the PS3's cell's would be way more flexible 19:18 < rxr> and able to accelerate more, theoretically even the javascript and rendering in your browser 19:19 < rxr> that's nearly impossible to implement / accelerate on the current GPU kind of design architecture 19:19 < koan> indeed, but I think OpenCL is not only interesting for the acceleration part, but also because it gives the programmers one interface to program such a wide range of processor architectures (cpu, gpu, cell, larrabee, ...) 19:20 < rxr> yes, indeed 19:20 < rxr> but I only looked briefly at it (too much TODO, though I even have Snow Leopard somewhere around, though not the latest seed our Apple Developer Connect membership expired recently :-) 19:21 < rxr> to be renewed the next time we need to bug them :-) 19:21 < rxr> (about their bugs :-9 19:21 < koan> but it's not suitable for every programmer, I looked into the specification and it's rather low-level and you need much 'administration' code 19:22 < rxr> well - on the high level you device like "throwing this cind of matrix over this kind of layed out bit patter (int, float, triple, tuple, etc.) 19:22 < rxr> but this is mostly intersting for image processing, physics 19:23 < rxr> stuff like the cell or larrabee (what that spelled correctly?) could potentially even accelerate your (now much hyped) java script or vector (SVG, ...) rendering 19:23 < rxr> I do not see current (classic) GPUs doing that 19:24 < koan> what's the problem with GPU's that they can't do this? 19:24 < rxr> well - the do not have that flexible control flow and conditional stuff - and a too high CPU to GPU latency 19:25 < rxr> they are quite strictly architectured for vector operations "only" 19:25 < rxr> like pixel shading and moving some matrix kernel over some abritrary set of vector data 19:39 < rxr> so - have to leave - cu then 20:57 -!- tri [n=tri@p4FCF1E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 21:17 -!- tri [n=tri@p4FCF1E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Leaving."] 21:56 -!- RayMan72 [n=radjis@dhcp-077-251-249-082.chello.nl] has joined #t2 22:29 -!- tri [n=tri@p4FCF1E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 23:09 -!- tri [n=tri@p4FCF1E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:22 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/portable/Acer/Aspire-One-150/ 23:22 < rxr> (yes web day) 23:22 < rxr> (just joking) 23:23 < koan> that's the netbook you bought? 23:24 < koan> I have the A110, but didn't try T2 yet --- Log closed Sat Feb 28 00:00:13 2009