T2 IRC Log: 2009-02-18

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--- Log opened Wed Feb 18 00:00:13 2009
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03:48 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org
03:48 -!- Topic set by H4X [] [Tue Jun 26 17:57:25 2007]
03:48 [Users #t2]
03:48 [@ChanServ] [ koan] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX]
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03:48 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Nov 26 07:44:08 2006
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09:06 < mpp> moinsen
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09:52 < synchris> mpp: moin moin ;)
09:53 < mpp> kalimera synchris
09:53 < mpp> blody cold in germany
09:53 < synchris> kalimera
09:53 < synchris> haha
09:53 < synchris> that;s good;p
09:53 < mpp> ne ja gelase esi...
09:53 < synchris> i hate summer in real
09:53 < synchris> ja?
09:54 < mpp> what's worse - freeze to death or burn to death - you decide
09:54 < mpp> :-)
09:54 < synchris> hm
09:54 < synchris> freeze to death
09:54 < mpp> telos panton
09:54 < synchris> ;p
09:54 < synchris> hahaha
09:54 < mpp> opa o kafes mou adiase
09:54 < mpp> pao na paro kainourgio
09:54 < mpp> ta leme istera
09:55 < synchris> ok
09:55 < synchris> ;p
09:55 < mpp> kafetzi ---
09:55 < synchris> ;)
09:55 < mpp> 2 kafedes kai ena tavlaki
09:55 < mpp> :-) LOL
09:55 < synchris> paizw tavli
09:55 < mpp> sopa
09:55 < synchris> alla eimia perissotero tou skakiou
09:55 < synchris> ;p
09:55 < mpp> alithia
09:55 < mpp> malista
09:55 < synchris> kapotes paizame sixna eidika tavli
09:56 < synchris> to psiloparatisame teleutaia xronia
09:56 < synchris> paizoume opote laxei basika
09:56 < mpp> LOL !!!
09:56 < synchris> ;p
09:56 < synchris> milame kathimera
09:56 < synchris> epi kathimerinis basews
09:56 < synchris> rofl
09:57 < synchris> o adelfos mou fernei kati zaries...
09:57 < synchris> thanatos...
09:57 < synchris> otan lew 8anatos sta krisima shmeia
09:57 < synchris> ;p
10:09 < rxr_> moin
10:12 < synchris> mornin;
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11:17 < CIA-23> rene * r32348 /trunk/package/xorg/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
11:17 < CIA-23> * updated xcb-proto (1.2 -> 1.4)
11:17 < CIA-23> * updated libxcb (1.1 -> 1.2)
11:17 < CIA-23> * updated libx11 (1.1.5 -> 1.2)
11:24 < rxr_> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/bitfields.html
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11:26 < synchris> ;)
11:26 < synchris> http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/18/mcdonalds_rolls_out_mcchargers/ <- rofl?
11:28 < rxr_> lol
11:30 < synchris> expand your bussines plan
11:30 < synchris> rofl
11:35 < CIA-23> rene * r32349 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-input-fpit/xf86-input-fpit.desc: * updated xf86-input-fpit (1.2.0 -> 1.3.0)
11:38 < CIA-23> rene * r32350 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-vesa/xf86-video-vesa.desc: * updated xf86-video-vesa (2.1.0 -> 2.2.0)
11:42 < CIA-23> rene * r32351 /trunk/package/graphic/lcms/lcms.desc: * updated lcms (1.17 -> 1.18)
11:45 < CIA-23> rene * r32352 /trunk/package/editors/geany/geany.desc: * updated geany (0.15 -> 0.16)
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13:13 < michael-i> I'm trying to override the package definitions in t2 trunk with something more appropriate for my target definition. Should I copy files to target/mytarget/package/mypackage and make my modifications there?
13:28 < michael-i> ...or do I need to specify somewhere to use the local target package definitions? I've copied mpfr into my target definitions and modified it to use a different version..seems to be working. Other packages are not building at all though.
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15:20 < rxr_> re
15:21 < rxr_> michael-i: only copy - they are picked up automatically
15:22 < michael-i> rxr_: alrighty...things still aren't being built for some reason. Is there a way to see why something is being skipped?
15:23 < rxr_> not really, beside adding some echo's in the relevant scripts/ fi.es
15:23 < rxr_> files
15:23 < rxr_> probably just some typo in the naming or so?
15:23 < michael-i> rxr_: sorry for all the questions but how can I force a rebuild without Clean -full'ing the tree?
15:23 < rxr_> Build-Target -cfg your-config -job 1-$pkg
15:24 < rxr_> or better $stage-$package
15:24 < rxr_> ieek
15:24 < rxr_> WARNING: at net/sched/sch_generic.c:226 dev_watchdog+0x1ef/0x205()
15:25 < rxr_> [] warn_slowpath+0x58/0x70
15:25 < rxr_> [] can_migrate_task+0x6e/0x79
15:25 < rxr_> [] __next_cpu+0x13/0x23
15:25 < rxr_> [] find_busiest_group+0x139/0x671
15:25 < rxr_> ..
15:25 -!- You're now known as rxr
15:25 < michael-i> ok
15:28 < michael-i> the 'packages' file generated by my target does not even contain php4, for example...
15:32 < rxr> ok - it might only pickup cross tags from regular packages
15:33 < rxr> we could however adapt it to honor target morks there, too
15:33 < rxr> but I guess this would further un-motivate people to commti such stuff upstream
15:33 < CIA-23> rene * r32353 /trunk/package/graphic/recoverjpeg/recoverjpeg.desc: * updated recoverjpeg (1.1.2 -> 1.1.4)
15:33 < rxr> maybe just mark php4 CROSS in trunk and try again
15:34 < rxr> and maybe best fix if you have to change anything in php4 to cross build in trunk anyway and send us the patch
15:34 < rxr> so far only versions, downloads and otherwise patches and configuration are overloaded from the architectures and targets
15:34 < michael-i> I can get it to attempt to build there but I need to move this to a target.
15:34 < rxr> not flags
15:34 < rxr> and also not new packages
15:34 < rxr> you can not create a package in the target
15:35 < michael-i> any patches I need to make for the packages will be committed back upstream...i need the target control to manage versions easier
15:35 < rxr> it needs to be defined within the t2 repo, only modifications can be applied on top from the target
15:36 < rxr> (also a safeguard for people to atleast guide them to send changes (such as new packages) upstream)
15:36 < rxr> yes, version and patches, config etc can be tweaked by the target
15:36 < rxr> just not the CROSS flag ...
15:36 < rxr> (or new packages)
15:37 < michael-i> is that just a business decision or should I work on a patch?
15:38 < rxr> that is no business decision - at that time of writing there was no (real) t2 business
15:38 < rxr> that is just coincidence and lack of other implementation
15:38 < michael-i> ok :) had to ask
15:38 < rxr> in theory we would accept patches to further extend the package overloading
15:38 < rxr> so far noone required it I guess
15:38 < michael-i> I'll modify the trunk package definitions to contain CROSS flags, patch things up and get back to you
15:39 < rxr> (or, even more evil) most companies using t2 for product just mangle their trunk anyway, without a clean target specific change seperation anyway :-((((( )
15:40 < michael-i> We have the same problem with AskoziaPBX...people modifying the GUI's CSS and reselling it on hardware
15:40 < michael-i> fun fun fun
15:44 < rxr> yeah - I have not too much problems with that for t2
15:44 < rxr> I would just love to receive patches (at all) fro the big companies using it for their product
15:44 < rxr> then of course support contract with them would be even more fun, ... :-)
15:45 < michael-i> Yes, I realize I fall into that category...sorry!
15:45 < rxr> oh - that was no hint for you - but now that I think about it ....
15:46 < rxr> I rather meant other ones, like Asus etc.
15:46 < michael-i> I promise to pay in patches ;) It's about all I can offer at the moment
15:46 < michael-i> yeah they're a bit bigger than my little OSS project
15:46 < rxr> your're welcome though :-)
15:46 < rxr> are you already on the t2 map? http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/
15:47 < michael-i> so would I be a developer or a user?
15:48 < rxr> that's for you to decide :-) sound more developerish to me, though
15:54 < CIA-23> rene * r32354 /trunk/package/network/dclib/dclib.desc: * updated dclib (0.3.19 -> 0.3.23)
15:55 < CIA-23> rene * r32355 /trunk/package/network/duplicity/duplicity.desc: * updated duplicity (0.5.08 -> 0.5.09)
15:55 < CIA-23> rene * r32356 /trunk/package/develop/ddd/ddd.desc: * updated ddd (3.3.11 -> 3.3.12)
15:55 < CIA-23> rene * r32357 /trunk/package/develop/ginac/ginac.desc: * updated ginac (1.4.4 -> 1.5.0)
16:43 < CIA-23> rene * r32358 /trunk/package/base/texinfo/texinfo.desc: * changed texinfo build priority (102.500 -> 105.000), and move texinfo after ncurses, ...
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17:30 < michael-i> ugh...upgrading our other base from freebsd 6.2 to 6.4 is a bit rough...
17:31 < michael-i> time to head home
17:31 < michael-i> thanks again for the help! ciao
17:31 < rxr> you're welcome
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