T2 IRC Log: 2009-02-04
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--- Log opened Wed Feb 04 00:00:08 2009
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10:34 < CIA-23> rene * r32051 /trunk/package/base/gperf/gperf.desc: * updated gperf (3.0.3 -> 3.0.4)
10:34 < CIA-23> rene * r32052 /trunk/package/network/dbus-glib/dbus-glib.desc: * updated dbus-glib (0.78 -> 0.80)
10:42 < CIA-23> rene * r32053 /trunk/package/archiver/dpkg/dpkg.desc: * updated dpkg (1.14.24 -> 1.14.25)
10:42 < CIA-23> rene * r32054 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvbstreamer/dvbstreamer.desc: * updated dvbstreamer (1.0 -> 1.1)
10:42 < CIA-23> rene * r32055 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/gtk-sharp2.desc: * updated gtk-sharp2 (2.12.7 -> 2.12.8)
10:58 < CIA-23> rene * r32056 /trunk/package/network/duplicity/duplicity.desc: * updated duplicity (0.5.06 -> 0.5.08)
10:58 < CIA-23> rene * r32057 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (3.0.5 -> 3.0.6)
11:01 < CIA-23> rene * r32058 /trunk/package/base/rsyslog/rsyslog.desc: * updated rsyslog (3.20.2 -> 3.20.3)
11:01 < CIA-23> rene * r32059 /trunk/package/fonts/dejavu-ttf-fonts/dejavu-ttf-fonts.desc: * updated dejavu-ttf-fonts (2.26 -> 2.28)
11:02 < CIA-23> rene * r32060 /trunk/package/graphic/dcraw/dcraw.desc: * updated dcraw (8.90 -> 8.91)
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11:42 < gw> hi
11:43 < gw> someone still up yet? :)
11:43 < gw> I want to ask, whether someone has actually built kde 4.2?
11:44 < gw> had some problems with it, and want to figure out, whether is was just my configuration/machine.
11:44 < gw> if not I have a couple of patches ready :)
12:05 < rxr> yes hi
12:06 < rxr> yes, it built here
12:06 < rxr> with some minor shared files
12:06 < rxr> (and the desktop target patches not yet ported)
12:06 < rxr> baldzius is even using it as his main desktop I think
12:10 < gw> ok
12:12 < gw> I had to update strigi, libxi and libspectre
12:12 < gw> furthermore, I needed to rearange the build priorites
12:15 < gw> but it is running nicely :)
12:15 < gw> much smoother and by far less buggier than 4.1.x :)
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12:40 < CIA-23> rene * r32061 /trunk/package/develop/nwcc/nwcc.desc: * updated nwcc (0.7.6 -> 0.7.7)
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13:25 < michael-i> i reported yesterday that blackfin builds were broken with the update of mpfr to 2.4.0 but that was an experimental tree. Today I checked out a clean trunk. Minimal embedded fails to build now due to the same error. (finding the pastebin...)
13:33 < michael-i> failing with: make: *** No rule to make target `@MAINTAINER_MODE_TRUE@', needed by `Makefile.in'. Stop. (full output: http://pastebin.ca/1327079)
13:39 < CIA-23> rene * r32062 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/udev.desc: * fixed udev.desc to not X the checksum, but instead use a real one
14:00 < michael-i> reverting to 2.3.2 fixes things...just fyi. I'm switching my blackfin builds over to use it again.
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14:27 < rxr> re
14:27 < rxr> hi michael-i
14:27 [Users #t2]
14:27 [@ChanServ] [ gw ] [ michael-i] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
14:27 [ CIA-23 ] [ koan] [ mtr ] [ Skaperen] [ {Brad} ]
14:27 [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ RayMan72 ] [ Stealth ] [ |beowulf|]
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14:32 < michael-i> hello rxr... I'm back to blackfin hacking :)
14:32 < rxr> nicec :-)
14:32 < rxr> sorry that there is a new regression :-(
14:33 < michael-i> oh well
14:33 < michael-i> I've updated most of the blackfin toolchain....except uclibc still has problems compiling. I could send you a diff for binutils, gcc and the linux26 package .desc changes
14:35 < michael-i> it's all not very well tested...perhaps once I've done some more work I'll clean up and mail a patch
15:20 < michael-i> I still have a strange problem where packages I've added to a target's pkgsel file are being ignored after running Config and then Build-Target...are there architecture restriction flags I should be looking for?
15:23 < rxr> [R] +/- in the .desc file is architecture selection
15:23 < rxr> maybe the packages rather miss a [F] CROSS, flag
15:23 < rxr> which package is that for example ?
15:26 < michael-i> php4 and asterisk....I'm working off and modifying the embedded minimal target
15:26 < rxr> oh - php4 is likely not marked CROSS
15:27 < rxr> maybe asterisk not yet either
15:27 < rxr> you can try add the [F] CROSS and test build it
15:27 < michael-i> well, that's my job to make them work ;) how can I change them to at least try?
15:27 < rxr> if it builds let us know :-)
15:27 < michael-i> ok
15:27 < rxr> if not you have to patch the package to actually cross build, ...
15:28 < michael-i> that's what I'm getting exited to do this next week
15:28 < michael-i> blackfin patches! woohoo
15:34 < michael-i> both failed on the first try... is there a way to modify the dependency checks? It seems both were missing packages
15:44 < rxr> php is marked to CROSS compile btw.
15:44 < rxr> maybe you can live with php(5) ? (in case it just cross builds?)
15:45 < michael-i> unfortunately php4 is what I need...huge size difference when just the cgi sapi is used
15:45 < rxr> btw. you know that some unix stuff might not just build on the MMU less Blackfin ?
15:45 < rxr> did you already test run the resutling binaries on real hardware ?
15:47 < michael-i> Not yet...haven't made enough progress yet. Yes, blackfin is a nightmare because of the MMU
15:49 < rxr> or the lack thereof ...
15:50 < michael-i> correct...I should try to write complete sentences
15:50 < rxr> no problem, that was just for the log of it ... :-)
15:51 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/irclogs/t2-2009-02-04.html
16:01 < michael-i> signing off for the day
16:01 < michael-i> later all
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17:06 < CIA-23> rene * r32063 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/ (8 files):
17:06 < CIA-23> * updated qemu (0.9.1 -> r6516), builds with trunk's gcc-4.x, drops a
17:06 < CIA-23> couple of pre-TCG hackery patches
17:23 < CIA-23> rene * r32064 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/qemu.desc:
17:23 < CIA-23> * removed powerpc64 exclusion from qemu.desc, the new SVN snapshot
17:23 < CIA-23> qemu comes with ppc64 host support
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19:46 < CIA-23> rene * r32065 /trunk/package/emulators/kvm/with-kqemu.patch: * build kvm with kqemu support (as fallback for non-VT CPUs)
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20:47 < CIA-23> rene * r32066 /trunk/package/emulators/kvm/i386.patch:
20:47 < CIA-23> * added kvm/i386.patch to allow alternatively using kqemu on
20:47 < CIA-23> i386, likewise
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21:16 < CIA-23> rene * r32067 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-150/sun-jre-150.desc: * updated sun-jre-150 (1_5_0_10 -> 1_5_0_17)
21:48 < Skaperen> good morning
21:49 < Skaperen> people are still using PHP? oh wait ... PHP is OK ... but I'm moving away from it for my web development stuff
21:50 < Skaperen> as long as the C language toolchain works, and my C libraries compile (my issue if they don't), then I'm happy
22:05 < CIA-23> rene * r32068 /trunk/package/emulators/kvm/kvm.conf:
22:05 < CIA-23> * improved kvm to only build the bios-mac (Intel Macintosh BIOS) if bin86 (and
22:05 < CIA-23> thus bcc) is installed
22:07 < CIA-23> rene * r32069 /trunk/package/emulators/kvm/always-compatfd.patch: * fixed building kvm with --disable-aio, compatfd is always required for kvm
22:09 < CIA-23> rene * r32070 /trunk/target/archivista/pkg_kvm.conf:
22:09 < CIA-23> * added some kvm build quirks for the older T2 based -> older toolchain
22:09 < CIA-23> Archivista releases
22:10 < rxr> hi Skaperen
22:10 < rxr> Skaperen: web dev in C ?
22:23 < Skaperen> rxr: sure ... why not in C ... for someone that has been coding C since 1982
22:23 < rxr> sure :-)
22:23 < rxr> just wanted to be sure
22:23 < rxr> have a good night
22:23 < rxr> cu
22:23 < Skaperen> g/n
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10:34 < CIA-23> rene * r32051 /trunk/package/base/gperf/gperf.desc: * updated gperf (3.0.3 -> 3.0.4)
10:34 < CIA-23> rene * r32052 /trunk/package/network/dbus-glib/dbus-glib.desc: * updated dbus-glib (0.78 -> 0.80)
10:42 < CIA-23> rene * r32053 /trunk/package/archiver/dpkg/dpkg.desc: * updated dpkg (1.14.24 -> 1.14.25)
10:42 < CIA-23> rene * r32054 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvbstreamer/dvbstreamer.desc: * updated dvbstreamer (1.0 -> 1.1)
10:42 < CIA-23> rene * r32055 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/gtk-sharp2.desc: * updated gtk-sharp2 (2.12.7 -> 2.12.8)
10:58 < CIA-23> rene * r32056 /trunk/package/network/duplicity/duplicity.desc: * updated duplicity (0.5.06 -> 0.5.08)
10:58 < CIA-23> rene * r32057 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (3.0.5 -> 3.0.6)
11:01 < CIA-23> rene * r32058 /trunk/package/base/rsyslog/rsyslog.desc: * updated rsyslog (3.20.2 -> 3.20.3)
11:01 < CIA-23> rene * r32059 /trunk/package/fonts/dejavu-ttf-fonts/dejavu-ttf-fonts.desc: * updated dejavu-ttf-fonts (2.26 -> 2.28)
11:02 < CIA-23> rene * r32060 /trunk/package/graphic/dcraw/dcraw.desc: * updated dcraw (8.90 -> 8.91)
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11:42 < gw> hi
11:43 < gw> someone still up yet? :)
11:43 < gw> I want to ask, whether someone has actually built kde 4.2?
11:44 < gw> had some problems with it, and want to figure out, whether is was just my configuration/machine.
11:44 < gw> if not I have a couple of patches ready :)
12:05 < rxr> yes hi
12:06 < rxr> yes, it built here
12:06 < rxr> with some minor shared files
12:06 < rxr> (and the desktop target patches not yet ported)
12:06 < rxr> baldzius is even using it as his main desktop I think
12:10 < gw> ok
12:12 < gw> I had to update strigi, libxi and libspectre
12:12 < gw> furthermore, I needed to rearange the build priorites
12:15 < gw> but it is running nicely :)
12:15 < gw> much smoother and by far less buggier than 4.1.x :)
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12:40 < CIA-23> rene * r32061 /trunk/package/develop/nwcc/nwcc.desc: * updated nwcc (0.7.6 -> 0.7.7)
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13:25 < michael-i> i reported yesterday that blackfin builds were broken with the update of mpfr to 2.4.0 but that was an experimental tree. Today I checked out a clean trunk. Minimal embedded fails to build now due to the same error. (finding the pastebin...)
13:33 < michael-i> failing with: make: *** No rule to make target `@MAINTAINER_MODE_TRUE@', needed by `Makefile.in'. Stop. (full output: http://pastebin.ca/1327079)
13:39 < CIA-23> rene * r32062 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/udev.desc: * fixed udev.desc to not X the checksum, but instead use a real one
14:00 < michael-i> reverting to 2.3.2 fixes things...just fyi. I'm switching my blackfin builds over to use it again.
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14:27 < rxr> re
14:27 < rxr> hi michael-i
14:27 [Users #t2]
14:27 [@ChanServ] [ gw ] [ michael-i] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
14:27 [ CIA-23 ] [ koan] [ mtr ] [ Skaperen] [ {Brad} ]
14:27 [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ RayMan72 ] [ Stealth ] [ |beowulf|]
14:27 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
14:32 < michael-i> hello rxr... I'm back to blackfin hacking :)
14:32 < rxr> nicec :-)
14:32 < rxr> sorry that there is a new regression :-(
14:33 < michael-i> oh well
14:33 < michael-i> I've updated most of the blackfin toolchain....except uclibc still has problems compiling. I could send you a diff for binutils, gcc and the linux26 package .desc changes
14:35 < michael-i> it's all not very well tested...perhaps once I've done some more work I'll clean up and mail a patch
15:20 < michael-i> I still have a strange problem where packages I've added to a target's pkgsel file are being ignored after running Config and then Build-Target...are there architecture restriction flags I should be looking for?
15:23 < rxr> [R] +/- in the .desc file is architecture selection
15:23 < rxr> maybe the packages rather miss a [F] CROSS, flag
15:23 < rxr> which package is that for example ?
15:26 < michael-i> php4 and asterisk....I'm working off and modifying the embedded minimal target
15:26 < rxr> oh - php4 is likely not marked CROSS
15:27 < rxr> maybe asterisk not yet either
15:27 < rxr> you can try add the [F] CROSS and test build it
15:27 < michael-i> well, that's my job to make them work ;) how can I change them to at least try?
15:27 < rxr> if it builds let us know :-)
15:27 < michael-i> ok
15:27 < rxr> if not you have to patch the package to actually cross build, ...
15:28 < michael-i> that's what I'm getting exited to do this next week
15:28 < michael-i> blackfin patches! woohoo
15:34 < michael-i> both failed on the first try... is there a way to modify the dependency checks? It seems both were missing packages
15:44 < rxr> php is marked to CROSS compile btw.
15:44 < rxr> maybe you can live with php(5) ? (in case it just cross builds?)
15:45 < michael-i> unfortunately php4 is what I need...huge size difference when just the cgi sapi is used
15:45 < rxr> btw. you know that some unix stuff might not just build on the MMU less Blackfin ?
15:45 < rxr> did you already test run the resutling binaries on real hardware ?
15:47 < michael-i> Not yet...haven't made enough progress yet. Yes, blackfin is a nightmare because of the MMU
15:49 < rxr> or the lack thereof ...
15:50 < michael-i> correct...I should try to write complete sentences
15:50 < rxr> no problem, that was just for the log of it ... :-)
15:51 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/irclogs/t2-2009-02-04.html
16:01 < michael-i> signing off for the day
16:01 < michael-i> later all
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17:06 < CIA-23> rene * r32063 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/ (8 files):
17:06 < CIA-23> * updated qemu (0.9.1 -> r6516), builds with trunk's gcc-4.x, drops a
17:06 < CIA-23> couple of pre-TCG hackery patches
17:23 < CIA-23> rene * r32064 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/qemu.desc:
17:23 < CIA-23> * removed powerpc64 exclusion from qemu.desc, the new SVN snapshot
17:23 < CIA-23> qemu comes with ppc64 host support
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19:46 < CIA-23> rene * r32065 /trunk/package/emulators/kvm/with-kqemu.patch: * build kvm with kqemu support (as fallback for non-VT CPUs)
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20:47 < CIA-23> rene * r32066 /trunk/package/emulators/kvm/i386.patch:
20:47 < CIA-23> * added kvm/i386.patch to allow alternatively using kqemu on
20:47 < CIA-23> i386, likewise
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21:16 < CIA-23> rene * r32067 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-150/sun-jre-150.desc: * updated sun-jre-150 (1_5_0_10 -> 1_5_0_17)
21:48 < Skaperen> good morning
21:49 < Skaperen> people are still using PHP? oh wait ... PHP is OK ... but I'm moving away from it for my web development stuff
21:50 < Skaperen> as long as the C language toolchain works, and my C libraries compile (my issue if they don't), then I'm happy
22:05 < CIA-23> rene * r32068 /trunk/package/emulators/kvm/kvm.conf:
22:05 < CIA-23> * improved kvm to only build the bios-mac (Intel Macintosh BIOS) if bin86 (and
22:05 < CIA-23> thus bcc) is installed
22:07 < CIA-23> rene * r32069 /trunk/package/emulators/kvm/always-compatfd.patch: * fixed building kvm with --disable-aio, compatfd is always required for kvm
22:09 < CIA-23> rene * r32070 /trunk/target/archivista/pkg_kvm.conf:
22:09 < CIA-23> * added some kvm build quirks for the older T2 based -> older toolchain
22:09 < CIA-23> Archivista releases
22:10 < rxr> hi Skaperen
22:10 < rxr> Skaperen: web dev in C ?
22:23 < Skaperen> rxr: sure ... why not in C ... for someone that has been coding C since 1982
22:23 < rxr> sure :-)
22:23 < rxr> just wanted to be sure
22:23 < rxr> have a good night
22:23 < rxr> cu
22:23 < Skaperen> g/n
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