T2 IRC Log: 2008-12-08
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--- Log opened Mon Dec 08 00:00:19 2008
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07:31 < CIA-10> aldas * r31465 /trunk/package/gnome2/abiword/abiword.desc: * updated abiword (2.6.4 -> 2.6.5)
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09:04 < rxr> moin
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09:18 < mpp> moin
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09:18 [Users #t2]
09:18 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ LMJ] [ noclouds] [ tfl0pz]
09:18 [ axionix_] [ dsoul] [ mpp] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
09:18 [ CIA-10 ] [ koan ] [ mtr] [ Stealth ] [ wtracy]
09:18 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
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09:32 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2008-12-07/berlin-festival-of-lights-2008/
09:49 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/zine/3/
09:49 < rxr> ^- enjoy
09:51 < CIA-10> rene * r31466 /trunk/package/textproc/iso-codes/iso-codes.desc: * updated iso-codes (3.4 -> 3.5)
09:51 < CIA-10> rene * r31468 /trunk/package/perl/perl-yaml/perl-yaml.desc: * updated perl-yaml (0.66 -> 0.68)
09:51 < CIA-10> rene * r31469 /trunk/package/develop/vala/vala.desc: * updated vala (0.5.1 -> 0.5.2)
09:51 < CIA-10> rene * r31467 /trunk/package/textproc/msort/msort.desc: * updated msort (8.50 -> 8.52)
09:52 < CIA-10> rene * r31470 /trunk/package/network/newsbeuter/newsbeuter.desc: * updated newsbeuter (1.2 -> 1.3)
09:52 < CIA-10> rene * r31471 /trunk/package/perl/perl-libwww/perl-libwww.desc: * updated perl-libwww (5.821 -> 5.822)
09:52 < CIA-10> rene * r31472 /trunk/package/security/gnuradius/gnuradius.desc: * updated gnuradius (1.5 -> 1.6)
09:59 < CIA-10> rene * r31473 /trunk/package/filesystem/libburn/libburn.desc: * updated libburn (0.5.6.pl00 -> 0.5.8.pl00)
10:39 -!- michael-i [n=michael-@Q28b3.q.pppool.de] has joined #t2
13:50 < michael-i> I'm having trouble compiling gettext for blackfin-bf532 using the generic+bootstrap target. (http://pastebin.ca/1279592)
13:51 < michael-i> I've made a copy of the generic target so I can begin customizing it for my own needs...in case you're wondering about the naming scheme.
13:51 < rxr> hm, woudl need to check
13:51 < rxr> no iconv, though
13:51 < michael-i> yup
13:51 < michael-i> should I add it explicitly to the package list?
13:52 < michael-i> (I'm finally back on blackfin development...we were finishing up another project the last 2 weeks)
13:52 < rxr> I always forget what the iconv state was regarding uclibc
13:53 < rxr> I would need to double check - we have some iconv add-on package, but I'm not sure ATM if that was required for uclibc
13:53 < michael-i> Is uclibc automatically activated for blackfin builds?
13:53 < rxr> yes
13:53 < rxr> IIRC it's the only libc with bfin support ATM
13:54 < michael-i> ok...I'm trying to force it to be active all the time.
13:54 < michael-i> i think that's right
14:32 < michael-i> i had question about building distcc nodes. Is there a target already present in T2 that is already designed for this or comes close?
14:37 < rxr> you need no special target
14:37 < rxr> you need to buld example the same target with just the 0 toolchain to get the exactly identical cross complier on the nodes
14:48 < michael-i> ok, this might be a project for us once we have some time. I'd love to have a 'compute node' target which would build a live usb image. I'd like to have distcc processes find themselves automatically among all hosts running this image.
14:48 < michael-i> Ok...done dreaming for now, back to blackfin troubleshooting.
14:51 < rxr> :-)
15:45 < koan> rxr: do you kow Conary? looks like an interesting package manager, especially the rollback feature and fine-grained (on the level of files) update mechanism
16:17 < michael-i> just trying to get some small target compiling successfully with x86 and then blackfin so I can begin updating blackfin's sources. Rescue CD fails on kernel with (http://pastebin.ca/1279687)
16:17 < michael-i> using x86...sorry
16:22 < rxr> I think the acx wireless module fails
16:23 < rxr> just disable it for now
16:23 < rxr> have to check if it was merged into the kernel or if we still need it
16:24 < michael-i> alrighty
16:26 < michael-i> should I do that in the src.xxxx directory?
16:33 < rxr> no, target/rescue/pkgsel
16:33 < rxr> just comment the acx100 (or so) line out
16:37 < michael-i> found it, thanks rxr
16:57 < michael-i> disabling acx100 and at76c503a lets the kernel build correctly now
16:58 < michael-i> christmas market time... bye everyone
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17:04 < CIA-10> rene * r31474 /trunk/target/archivista/pkg_xpdf.conf:
17:04 < CIA-10> * use O2 insterad of Os for the archivista target, as the used gcc-3
17:04 < CIA-10> does miss-optimize the jpeg loader otherwise
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17:59 < CIA-10> rene * r31475 /trunk/package/ia64/gnu-efi/gnu-efi.conf: * fixed gnu-efi to build on x86_64
18:05 < rxr> hahaha
18:05 < rxr> gnu-efi "woohoo we now have x86-64 support"
18:05 < rxr> turns out that's:
18:05 < rxr> ifeq ($(shell uname -m),x86_64)
18:05 < rxr> ARCH32 = -m32
18:05 < rxr> endif
18:05 < rxr> super extra support
18:26 < CIA-10> rene * r31476 /trunk/package/ia64/gnu-efi/ (gnu-efi.conf gnu-efi.desc): * updated gnu-efi (3.0c -> 3.0g)
18:38 < CIA-10> rene * r31477 /trunk/package/ia64/gnu-efi/gnu-efi.conf: * improved gnu-efi to build the newly available x86_64 flavor
18:38 < rxr> ah - in that hidden version the special support was hiding
18:38 < CIA-10> rene * r31478 /trunk/package/ia64/elilo/ (elilo.conf elilo.desc): * updated elilo (3.6 -> 3.8), finally builds for x86-64
21:09 < koan> rxr: if I execute Esetroot I get: "Eterm was built without pixmap support, so Esetroot is fairly useless. Sorry."
21:11 < koan> is this because libxpm isn't found by Eterm at build time?
21:19 < koan> ah I see, eterm16 doesn't find imlib2 at build time
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07:31 < CIA-10> aldas * r31465 /trunk/package/gnome2/abiword/abiword.desc: * updated abiword (2.6.4 -> 2.6.5)
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09:04 < rxr> moin
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09:18 < mpp> moin
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09:18 [Users #t2]
09:18 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ LMJ] [ noclouds] [ tfl0pz]
09:18 [ axionix_] [ dsoul] [ mpp] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
09:18 [ CIA-10 ] [ koan ] [ mtr] [ Stealth ] [ wtracy]
09:18 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
09:25 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
09:32 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2008-12-07/berlin-festival-of-lights-2008/
09:49 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/zine/3/
09:49 < rxr> ^- enjoy
09:51 < CIA-10> rene * r31466 /trunk/package/textproc/iso-codes/iso-codes.desc: * updated iso-codes (3.4 -> 3.5)
09:51 < CIA-10> rene * r31468 /trunk/package/perl/perl-yaml/perl-yaml.desc: * updated perl-yaml (0.66 -> 0.68)
09:51 < CIA-10> rene * r31469 /trunk/package/develop/vala/vala.desc: * updated vala (0.5.1 -> 0.5.2)
09:51 < CIA-10> rene * r31467 /trunk/package/textproc/msort/msort.desc: * updated msort (8.50 -> 8.52)
09:52 < CIA-10> rene * r31470 /trunk/package/network/newsbeuter/newsbeuter.desc: * updated newsbeuter (1.2 -> 1.3)
09:52 < CIA-10> rene * r31471 /trunk/package/perl/perl-libwww/perl-libwww.desc: * updated perl-libwww (5.821 -> 5.822)
09:52 < CIA-10> rene * r31472 /trunk/package/security/gnuradius/gnuradius.desc: * updated gnuradius (1.5 -> 1.6)
09:59 < CIA-10> rene * r31473 /trunk/package/filesystem/libburn/libburn.desc: * updated libburn (0.5.6.pl00 -> 0.5.8.pl00)
10:39 -!- michael-i [n=michael-@Q28b3.q.pppool.de] has joined #t2
13:50 < michael-i> I'm having trouble compiling gettext for blackfin-bf532 using the generic+bootstrap target. (http://pastebin.ca/1279592)
13:51 < michael-i> I've made a copy of the generic target so I can begin customizing it for my own needs...in case you're wondering about the naming scheme.
13:51 < rxr> hm, woudl need to check
13:51 < rxr> no iconv, though
13:51 < michael-i> yup
13:51 < michael-i> should I add it explicitly to the package list?
13:52 < michael-i> (I'm finally back on blackfin development...we were finishing up another project the last 2 weeks)
13:52 < rxr> I always forget what the iconv state was regarding uclibc
13:53 < rxr> I would need to double check - we have some iconv add-on package, but I'm not sure ATM if that was required for uclibc
13:53 < michael-i> Is uclibc automatically activated for blackfin builds?
13:53 < rxr> yes
13:53 < rxr> IIRC it's the only libc with bfin support ATM
13:54 < michael-i> ok...I'm trying to force it to be active all the time.
13:54 < michael-i> i think that's right
14:32 < michael-i> i had question about building distcc nodes. Is there a target already present in T2 that is already designed for this or comes close?
14:37 < rxr> you need no special target
14:37 < rxr> you need to buld example the same target with just the 0 toolchain to get the exactly identical cross complier on the nodes
14:48 < michael-i> ok, this might be a project for us once we have some time. I'd love to have a 'compute node' target which would build a live usb image. I'd like to have distcc processes find themselves automatically among all hosts running this image.
14:48 < michael-i> Ok...done dreaming for now, back to blackfin troubleshooting.
14:51 < rxr> :-)
15:45 < koan> rxr: do you kow Conary? looks like an interesting package manager, especially the rollback feature and fine-grained (on the level of files) update mechanism
16:17 < michael-i> just trying to get some small target compiling successfully with x86 and then blackfin so I can begin updating blackfin's sources. Rescue CD fails on kernel with (http://pastebin.ca/1279687)
16:17 < michael-i> using x86...sorry
16:22 < rxr> I think the acx wireless module fails
16:23 < rxr> just disable it for now
16:23 < rxr> have to check if it was merged into the kernel or if we still need it
16:24 < michael-i> alrighty
16:26 < michael-i> should I do that in the src.xxxx directory?
16:33 < rxr> no, target/rescue/pkgsel
16:33 < rxr> just comment the acx100 (or so) line out
16:37 < michael-i> found it, thanks rxr
16:57 < michael-i> disabling acx100 and at76c503a lets the kernel build correctly now
16:58 < michael-i> christmas market time... bye everyone
16:58 -!- michael-i [n=michael-@Q28b3.q.pppool.de] has quit []
17:04 < CIA-10> rene * r31474 /trunk/target/archivista/pkg_xpdf.conf:
17:04 < CIA-10> * use O2 insterad of Os for the archivista target, as the used gcc-3
17:04 < CIA-10> does miss-optimize the jpeg loader otherwise
17:20 -!- mpp [n=mpp@fulda025.server4you.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008111317]"]
17:59 < CIA-10> rene * r31475 /trunk/package/ia64/gnu-efi/gnu-efi.conf: * fixed gnu-efi to build on x86_64
18:05 < rxr> hahaha
18:05 < rxr> gnu-efi "woohoo we now have x86-64 support"
18:05 < rxr> turns out that's:
18:05 < rxr> ifeq ($(shell uname -m),x86_64)
18:05 < rxr> ARCH32 = -m32
18:05 < rxr> endif
18:05 < rxr> super extra support
18:26 < CIA-10> rene * r31476 /trunk/package/ia64/gnu-efi/ (gnu-efi.conf gnu-efi.desc): * updated gnu-efi (3.0c -> 3.0g)
18:38 < CIA-10> rene * r31477 /trunk/package/ia64/gnu-efi/gnu-efi.conf: * improved gnu-efi to build the newly available x86_64 flavor
18:38 < rxr> ah - in that hidden version the special support was hiding
18:38 < CIA-10> rene * r31478 /trunk/package/ia64/elilo/ (elilo.conf elilo.desc): * updated elilo (3.6 -> 3.8), finally builds for x86-64
21:09 < koan> rxr: if I execute Esetroot I get: "Eterm was built without pixmap support, so Esetroot is fairly useless. Sorry."
21:11 < koan> is this because libxpm isn't found by Eterm at build time?
21:19 < koan> ah I see, eterm16 doesn't find imlib2 at build time
22:21 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has joined #t2
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