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09:21 < CIA-4> rene * r30932 /trunk/package/gnome2/glibmm/glibmm.desc: * updated glibmm (2.18.0 -> 2.18.1)
09:21 < CIA-4> rene * r30933 /trunk/package/gnome2/deskbar-applet/deskbar-applet.desc: * updated deskbar-applet (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
09:21 < CIA-4> rene * r30934 /trunk/package/scientific/r/r.desc: * updated r (2.7.2 -> 2.8.0)
09:21 < CIA-4> rene * r30935 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-vesa/xf86GTFMode.patch: * fixed xf86-video-vesa to work with slightly older (read stable) xorg-server
09:23 < CIA-4> rene * r30936 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xcfgt2.sh: * use both serials for xcfgt2 auto quirks
09:23 < CIA-4> mtr * r30937 /trunk/package/x11/wxwidgets/ (wxwidgets.conf wxwidgets.desc): 
09:23 < CIA-4> * updated wxwidgets (2.8.8.1 -> 2.8.9)
09:23 < CIA-4> * changed download archive to use wxWidgets (and not wxPython) source
09:23 < CIA-4> * improved build process to generate gtk and x11 toolkit libraries
09:27 < rxr> mtr: wasn't the python source intenaionl as otherwise the python bindings did not work ?
09:30 < CIA-4> rene * r30938 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xcfgt2.sh: 
09:30 < CIA-4> * fixed xcfgt2 to prefer the new intel driver and only
09:30 < CIA-4>  apply the intel*7 match below, as before it matched
09:30 < CIA-4>  to i740 on the EeePC 1000 with some Intel 47 whatever line
09:30 < rxr> ouh
09:30 < rxr> that was from yesterday=
09:30 < rxr> nice lag CIA
09:35 < CIA-4> rene * r30939 /trunk/package/contrib/lcdproc/ (3 files): 
09:35 < CIA-4> * updated lcdproc (0.5.2 -> 20081022), the last release is a year old,
09:35 < CIA-4>  removed huge already disabled debug(whatever) patch
09:38 < mpp> hey rxr
09:39 < mpp> things are kinda messy with the new kernel
09:39 < mpp> aufs does not build neither the loop-aes
09:39 < mpp> latter was just fixed some days ago for the old kernel
09:40 < mpp> iptraf has trivial bug
09:40 < mpp> you adopted the patch back then mkdir -p $root/var/run/iptraf
09:41 < mpp> due to the /var/run/* beeing wiped upon reboot it's kinda useless, most services create dirs inside var/run at startup but iptraf is no service.
09:42 < mpp> i also checked the iptraf patches - they're outdated - if you agree i'll resync / repatch for the 3.0.1 version
09:42 < rxr> sounds good
09:42 < mpp> okay 
09:42 < mpp> could take some time as im at sickbay - heavy 'grippe'
09:42 < mpp> :-()
09:43 < mpp> i also wanted to report that on my amd64 still core dumps and exceptions are the rule
09:43 < mpp> one in particular building gcc at stage5
09:44 < mpp> could this be related to parallel builds ?
09:44 < rxr> apparently only on athlon64 optimizations
09:44 < rxr> no, rather the optimizations
09:44 < mpp> no it's a ordinary 64bit target no opt
09:44 < rxr> I have zero problems with core2 optimizations
09:44 < mpp> k
09:45 < rxr> for various different reasons we have no AMD CPUs (despite Geode) for some years now :-(
09:45 < mpp> okay
09:46 < mpp> thanx
09:46 < rxr> we're now listed on the parrot site: http://www.parrot.org/download
09:47 < rxr> actually all this cross linking is quite a gain in visitor traffic and google ranking, so I usually keep an eye and put some energy into being listed on upstream sites
09:47 < rxr> would be great if others could push that as well :-)
10:00 < CIA-4> rene * r30940 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.27.2 -> 2.6.27.3)
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10:06 < CIA-4> rene * r30941 /trunk/package/multimedia/vlc/vlc.desc: * improved vlc meta information
10:07 < CIA-4> rene * r30942 /trunk/package/mail/dcc/dcc.desc: * updated dcc (1.3.98 -> 1.3.99)
10:07 < CIA-4> rene * r30943 /trunk/package/printing/gutenprint/gutenprint.desc: * updated gutenprint (5.1.7 -> 5.2.1)
10:07 < CIA-4> rene * r30944 /trunk/package/gnome2/eel/eel.desc: * updated eel (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
10:07 < CIA-4> rene * r30945 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-desktop/gnome-desktop.desc: * updated gnome-desktop (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
10:07 < CIA-4> rene * r30946 /trunk/package/gnome2/libwnck/libwnck.desc: * updated libwnck (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
10:08 < CIA-4> rene * r30947 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-menus/gnome-menus.desc: * updated gnome-menus (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
10:09 < CIA-4> rene * r30948 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/gtk-sharp2.desc: * updated gtk-sharp2 (2.12.4 -> 2.12.5)
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10:15 < CIA-4> rene * r30949 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgweather/libgweather.desc: * updated libgweather (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
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10:19 < CIA-4> rene * r30950 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-panel/gnome-panel.desc: * updated gnome-panel (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
10:49 < CIA-4> rene * r30951 /trunk/package/multimedia/vlc/vlc.desc: * improved vlc author and download tags
10:53 < CIA-4> rene * r30952 /trunk/package/audio/spandsp/spandsp.desc: * updated spandsp (0.0.6pre1 -> 0.0.6pre2)
10:54 < CIA-4> rene * r30953 /trunk/package/gnome2/eog/eog.desc: * updated eog (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
10:54 < CIA-4> rene * r30956 /trunk/package/gnome2/evince/evince.desc: * updated evince (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
10:54 < CIA-4> rene * r30955 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-session/gnome-session.desc: * updated gnome-session (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
10:54 < CIA-4> rene * r30954 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-terminal/gnome-terminal.desc: * updated gnome-terminal (2.24.1 -> 2.24.1.1)
10:55 < CIA-4> rene * r30957 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.6.0.2 -> 1.6.0.3)
10:55 < CIA-4> rene * r30958 /trunk/package/gnome2/seahorse/seahorse.desc: * updated seahorse (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
10:55 < CIA-4> rene * r30959 /trunk/package/develop/parrot/parrot.desc: * updated parrot (0.7.1 -> 0.8.0), including meta tag updates
10:56 < CIA-4> rene * r30960 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-applets/gnome-applets.desc: * updated gnome-applets (2.24.0.1 -> 2.24.1)
11:22 < CIA-4> rene * r30961 /trunk/package/develop/ksplice/ksplice.desc: * changed ksplice to not cross build in stage 1 by default
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11:59 < CIA-4> mtr * r30962 /trunk/package/x11/wxwidgets/wxwidgets.conf: 
11:59 < CIA-4> * improved wxwidgets to build extension modules for gtk and x11 toolkits
11:59 < CIA-4>  (needed by wxpython)
11:59 < CIA-4> mtr * r30963 /trunk/package/python/wxpython/wxpython.desc: * updated wxpython (2.8.8.1 -> 2.8.9.1)
11:59 < CIA-4> rene * r30964 /trunk/package/multimedia/vlc/vlc.cache: * updated vlc.cache
12:00 < mtr> moin
12:01 < rxr> hi mtr 
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13:17 < CIA-4> rene * r30965 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvgrab/dvgrab.desc: * updated dvgrab (3.1 -> 3.2)
13:17 < CIA-4> rene * r30966 /trunk/package/base/libraw1394/ (hotfix.patch libraw1394.desc): * updated libraw1394 (1.3.0 -> 2.0.0)
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--- Log opened Thu Oct 23 13:22:11 2008
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14:35 < Baldzius> moin
14:36 < rxr> hey Baldzius 
14:36 < Baldzius> hi rxr
14:38 < CIA-4> aldas * r30967 /trunk/package/develop/subversion/subversion.desc: * removed NOPARALLEL from subversion
14:39 < CIA-4> aldas * r30968 /trunk/package/develop/swig/swig.desc: * removed NOPARALLEL from swig
14:50 < Baldzius> rxr: what do you think, how many parallel jobs people are using these days?
14:50 < Baldzius> for instance bind fails with 16 but builds fine with <=12
14:51 < rxr> then <=12 is just lucky and there is a real bug in the Makefile
14:51 < rxr> I guess these days <=12 is still common
14:52 < Baldzius> myself i use 4 only
14:52 < rxr> well - I use 8
14:53 < Baldzius> so should i leave bind as NOPARALLEL?
14:56 < rxr> depends, what is it currently ?
14:58 < Baldzius> currently it's noparallel
14:59 < rxr> how did you notice? built with PARALLEL=16 ?
15:00 < Baldzius> yes
15:00 < Baldzius> first i did with 8
15:00 < Baldzius> then with 16
15:00 < Baldzius> when it failed tried with 12
15:05 < rxr> just on bind or over all packages to test them ?
15:05 < rxr> well - best would be if it consistently fails with 16 to hunt for the missing dependency in the Makefile and patch the Makefile for real
15:05 < rxr> (though that is often quite ugly to find)
15:07 < Baldzius> I am going through noparallel packages and cheking if they still fail with parallel jobs
15:07 < rxr>  neat
15:08 < Baldzius> subversion and swig compiles even with 16 jobs
15:08 < Baldzius> so no need to have them flaged
15:08 < Baldzius> also i've checked them with 8 and 12 jobs
15:08 < rxr> maybe they where checked in the meantime
15:09 < rxr> but as this is timing depended it could still fail sometimes if a dep is missing in the makefile rules and it depends on the actual system timing if the file is accidently created already or not
15:10 < Baldzius> yep but i've tested on couple of machines and minimum 5-6 times
15:11 < rxr> yes, all sounds good :-)
15:11 < rxr> just wanted to point it out
15:11 < rxr> just go ahead
15:12 < Baldzius> so what about bind cause i am not sure what to do
15:12 < Baldzius> i would remove noparallel
15:14 < rxr> yeah - do
15:15 < Baldzius> cool
15:15 < Baldzius> i'll just make a note
15:36 < CIA-4> aldas * r30970 /trunk/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc: * updated dovecot (1.1.4 -> 1.1.5)
15:36 < CIA-4> aldas * r30969 /trunk/package/network/bind/bind.desc: * removed NOPARALLEL from bind (builds fine with <=12 but fails with 16 parallel jobs)
15:36 < CIA-4> aldas * r30971 /trunk/package/games/wesnoth/wesnoth.desc: * updated wesnoth (1.4 -> 1.4.5)
15:37 < CIA-4> aldas * r30972 /trunk/package/network/ipsec-tools/ipsec-tools.desc: * removed NOPARALLEL from ipsec-tools
15:37 < CIA-4> aldas * r30973 /trunk/package/contrib/rrdtool/rrdtool.desc: * removed NOPARALLEL from rrdtool
15:45 < CIA-4> susan * r30974 /trunk/package/gnome2/pangomm/ (pangomm.cache pangomm.conf pangomm.desc): 
15:45 < CIA-4> * fixed package pangomm to build without doxygen
15:45 < CIA-4> * updated pangomm.cache
15:45 < CIA-4> * corrected download path
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16:02 < CIA-4> aldas * r30975 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * removed NOPARALLEL from imagemagick
16:02 < CIA-4> aldas * r30976 /trunk/package/graphic/gtkam/gtkam.desc: * removed NOPARALLEL from gtkam
16:03 < CIA-4> aldas * r30977 /trunk/package/security/gnupg2/gnupg2.desc: * removed NOPARALLEL from gnupg2
16:03 < CIA-4> aldas * r30978 /trunk/package/network/dbus/dbus.desc: * removed NOPARALLEL from dbus
16:04 < rxr> .oO commit storm
16:04 < CIA-4> aldas * r30979 /trunk/package/mail/libetpan/libetpan.desc: * removed NOPARALLEL from libetpan
16:05 < mpp> hey guys
16:05 < rxr> hey mpp
16:05 < mpp> hatschi !! 
16:05 < mpp> this cold is over due !
16:06 < rxr> poor mpp
16:06 < mpp> ahhh..
16:06  * rxr hands over a hot tea
16:06 < mpp> little mpp will get around it 
16:06 < mpp> but now work atm
16:06 < mpp> so back to t2
16:06 < mpp> lot's of commits i seed
16:07 < mpp> sometime ago i asked rxr if he could push some updated .cache files to the svn
16:07 < rxr> yes, I already prepared stuff to doso
16:07 < mpp> k - they are widely outdated
16:07 < mpp> no wonder
16:08 < mpp> allright people heading back to sickbay ... 
16:08 < mpp> see ya
16:08 < rxr> cu
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16:46 < CIA-4> aldas * r30980 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-data-server/evolution-data-server.desc: * updated evolution-data-server (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
16:46 < CIA-4> aldas * r30981 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution/evolution.desc: * updated evolution (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
16:46 < CIA-4> aldas * r30982 /trunk/package/gnome2/nautilus/nautilus.desc: * updated nautilus (2.24.0 -> 2.24.1)
16:46 < CIA-4> aldas * r30983 /trunk/package/gnome2/epiphany/epiphany.desc: * updated epiphany (2.24.0.1 -> 2.24.1)
17:36 < rxr> oh Baldzius 
17:36 < rxr> there also is a new ekiga 3.0 we do not have yet
17:36 < rxr> did not yet build on my reference build
17:36 < rxr> ah - sorry we had 3.0.0 already, just 3.0.1 
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19:01 < CIA-4> mtr * r30984 /trunk/package/filesystem/aufs/aufs.desc: * updated aufs (2008-07-01 -> 2008-10-21), builds with linux 2.6.27
19:01 < rxr> yuche
19:01 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png
19:03 < CIA-4> rene * r30985 /trunk/package/network/et131x/et131x.desc: * fixed et131x Version tag (1.05 -> 1.2.3-3)
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20:44 < mpp> guys im having a big prob over here
20:44 < mpp> after updating my server i cannot sudo as root anymore
20:44 < mpp> checked all permissions and stuff no luck
20:45 < mpp> i even compared the file permissions to an original system but no luck
20:45 < mpp> any hints apprecitated
20:48 < rxr> what have you changed?
20:48 < rxr> completely rebuild, just some stuf update d?
20:48 < mpp> i updated the system 
20:49 < mpp> problem is though i am root 
20:49 < mpp> calling sudo spits out no permission
20:49 < mpp> wtf 
20:49 < mpp> root cannot call sudo ?
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20:49 < rxr> hm
20:49 < mpp> i have been digging some dozen articles checking id permission sudo -V etc.etc.
20:50 < mpp> what can possibly prohibit root to access /etc/sudoers ?
20:50 < rxr> maybe it is just hte sudo program itself that check something ?
20:51 < rxr> otherwise strace is usaually a neat help to track down what is read or tried to read
20:51 < rxr> have to go now
20:51 < mpp> k thanx
20:51 < mpp> bye
20:53 < Ragnarin> why would you use sudo when you are root anyway?
21:06 < mpp> to run some stuff as nobody eg
21:06 < mpp> but i also detected other wiredness
21:06 < mpp> /bin/bash execution is denied for other users 
21:06 < mpp> seems like the filesystem is screwed
21:07 < mpp> reinstall ! :-()
21:07 < mpp> ill get back to you tommorow
21:07 < mpp> thanx for helping
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