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01:31 < hikenboot> hello all can anyone tell me how to tell what python libaries are used in xen and how to create a python install that only includes this subset of the functions available in python instead of an 80 meg size...which kills the embedded idea for this distro I am making
01:32 < hikenboot> I can do the rest of it in under 30 meg...perhaps 20 but 80 meg ...my god thats huge
02:18 < bfg> hikenboot: the standard python build of the reference build machine is only 48MB
02:19 < bfg> I guess you could remove all the documentation which comes with python and this will reduce the size quite a bit
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02:47 < hikenboot> bfg...how much is how much...(for docs)
02:48 < hikenboot> bfg how would i remove the docs?
02:52 < bfg> just don't build it or don't install it ... there should be a configure or make option for this
02:53 < hikenboot> bfg can you make a guess as to the size of the docs?
02:53 < bfg> about 18M on my mac
02:54 < hikenboot> so your saying I can get it down to 30 meg?
02:54 < bfg> but I am not 100% certain whether the docs are really in the python distribution it's just a guess
02:54 < bfg> jep 30Megs should be possible
02:55 < bfg> at the moment I don't have access to a T2 built distribution... when I'm back home I can have a close look
02:56 < bfg> you can also try to remove development header and libraries if you don't need them
02:57 < hikenboot> what is their purpose?
02:57 < bfg> then you end up with a bare runtime environment (should be fine as long as you don't need to install c-extensions)
02:57 < bfg> they are there to build python modules which are written in C or if you wan't to integrate python into your application or whatever
02:58 < bfg> (integrate a python interpreter into your app e.g. for scripting)
02:59 < hikenboot> hmm I will find out if xen uses the c headers
03:00 < hikenboot> let me know what you find if you would bfg when you look...thanks a bunch
03:00 < bfg> you could also build all of python, and just package those things which are necessary
03:01 < bfg> so you could build all in your build-environment and just install what you actually need
03:01 < bfg> I am not sure, but I think the live-cd target does something like that with other packages
03:02 < hikenboot> problem Is i do not know how to tell what the xen source is using...its very complicated writting and I see no module declaration
03:04 < bfg> no i meant just build it like every other target.... and at the stage where python binaries are packaged, into a tar.bz2 just filter out the docs and the headers... so when you install python on the target machine it's stripped down, but in the build environment you have all of python accessible
03:05 < bfg> there used to be a filter function in T2 to filter out unwanted files (I don't know whether it is still suported or not)
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04:42 < hikenboot> bfg, thanks for the information...please keep in touch. you have been a big help where noone else has been able to 
04:42 < hikenboot> bfg,  did you see the debate
06:06 < bfg> which debate?
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10:11 < Baldzius> moin
10:14 < bfg>  moin
10:15 < bfg> anyone else here having problems with shared files for kdevelop, akonadi, mdnsresponder? (I just want to know whether it is my build environment or it is a general problem)
10:15 < Baldzius> hey bfg, trunk?
10:15 < bfg> jep
10:16 < Baldzius> you can always skip shared files problem
10:16 < bfg> I have fixes ready for it, but if it is only my build env then it does not make sense to commit them
10:16 < Baldzius> trunk needs a little polishing
10:16 < bfg> a little bit more :)
10:17 < Baldzius> if you this problem on the brand new build I'd say this is the global problem
10:17 < bfg> ok
10:17 < Baldzius> you have*
10:17 < Baldzius> i can try myself if you wait
10:17 < bfg> i'll commit later then :)
10:17 < Baldzius> sure
10:18 < bfg> i just thought, the reference build machine seems not to have this problem...
10:18 < Baldzius> what's the shared file you get?
10:18 < bfg> ah... for the kde components it's the classical shared-mime-info :)
10:18 < bfg> for mdnsresponder i currently don't remember exactly what it was
10:19 < bfg> but i think it was something with /etc/nsswitch.conf or so....
10:19 < bfg> that's an easy one....
10:19 < bfg> but I am really wondering why my machine hase the shared-mime-info shared files problem and the reference build machine not
10:20 < Baldzius> hm , shoudn't be like that
10:20 < bfg> you're right :)
10:21 < Baldzius> trying akonadi on ref build
10:21 < Baldzius> we'll see how it goes
10:21 < bfg> ok
10:21 < bfg> have to gout for out for while.... cu later then
10:21 < bfg> and thanks 
10:22 < Baldzius> cu
10:23 < Baldzius> bfg: opt/kde4/share/mime/text/xmcd.xml: akonadi kdelibs koffice
10:26 < bfg> ok thanks... so it is definitely not only my machine :)
10:26 < bfg> fix is on the way (in a while)
10:28 < Baldzius> ql
10:35 < rxr> hi
10:36 < Baldzius> moin rxr
10:36 < rxr> moin Baldzius 
10:37 < rxr> hi bfg 
11:07 < CIA-8> aldas * r30611 /trunk/package/multimedia/vlc/ (configure.patch vlc.desc): * updated vlc (0.8.6i -> 0.9.3)
12:08 < CIA-8> aldas * r30612 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (3.0.2 -> 3.0.3)
12:08 < bfg> hi rxr
12:08 < CIA-8> aldas * r30613 /trunk/package/www/seamonkey/seamonkey.desc: * updated seamonkey (1.1.11 -> 1.1.12)
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14:01 < CIA-8> gweis * r30614 /trunk/package/kde/kdevelop/fix_shared_files.patch: * don't install qt4guiapp app template. is already available from kdesdk
14:02 < CIA-8> gweis * r30615 /trunk/package/kde/akonadi/fix-shared-files.patch: * don't call shared-mime-info (shared files)
14:04 < CIA-8> gweis * r30616 /trunk/package/network/mdnsresponder/ (mdnsresponder.conf mdnsresponder.desc shared_files.patch): 
14:04 < CIA-8> * updated mdnsresponder (107 -> 107.6)
14:04 < CIA-8> * changed mdnsresponder build priority (164.000 -> 128.750)
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14:27 < rxr> neat
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14:36 < CIA-8> rene * r30619 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkmm/gtkmm.conf: 
14:36 < CIA-8> * fixed gtkmm to not to try creating documentation if doxygen
14:36 < CIA-8>  is not available
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18:11 < rxr> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/ten-years-and-counting.html
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18:59 < CIA-8> rene * r30620 /trunk/package/base/freeipmi/freeipmi.desc: * updated freeipmi (0.6.8 -> 0.6.9)
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19:25 < CIA-8> rene * r30622 /trunk/package/ (11 files in 11 dirs): (log message trimmed)
19:25 < CIA-8> * updated gnome platform, including:
19:25 < CIA-8> * updated atk (1.22.0 -> 1.24.0)
19:25 < CIA-8> * updated at-spi (1.22.1 -> 1.24.0)
19:25 < CIA-8> * updated gconf (2.22.0 -> 2.24.0)
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19:25 < CIA-8> * updated gtk+ (2.14.2 -> 2.14.3)
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20:13 < CIA-8> * updated gconfmm (2.22.0 -> 2.24.0)
20:13 < CIA-8> * updated glibmm (2.16.4 -> 2.18.0)
20:13 < CIA-8> * updated gnome-vfsmm (2.22.0 -> 2.24.0)
20:13 < CIA-8> * updated gtkmm (2.12.7 -> 2.14.0)
20:13 < CIA-8> * updated libgnomecanvasmm (2.20.0 -> 2.23.1)
20:32 < CIA-8> rene * r30624 /trunk/package/ (61 files in 61 dirs): (log message trimmed)
20:32 < CIA-8> * updated gnome "desktop", including:
20:32 < CIA-8> * updated alacarte (0.11.5 -> 0.11.6)
20:32 < CIA-8> * updated bug-buddy (2.22.0 -> 2.24.0)
20:32 < CIA-8> * updated deskbar-applet (2.22.3.1 -> 2.24.0)
20:32 < CIA-8> * updated eel (2.22.2 -> 2.24.0)
20:32 < CIA-8> * updated ekiga (2.0.12 -> 3.0.0)
20:33 < CIA-8> rene * r30625 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdl/gdl.desc: * updated gdl (0.7.11 -> 2.24.0)
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20:33 < CIA-8> rene * r30627 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-build/gnome-build.desc: * updated gnome-build (0.2.4 -> 2.24.0)
20:34 < CIA-8> rene * r30628 /trunk/package/gnome2/bluez-gnome/bluez-gnome.desc: * updated bluez-gnome (1.2 -> 1.4)
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