--- Log opened Tue Sep 09 00:00:50 2008 00:15 -!- mpp [n=user@i53877522.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:18 -!- mpp_ [n=user@i53875D27.versanet.de] has quit ["good night - good fight"] 00:58 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@217.70.75.158] has joined #t2 01:22 -!- mpp [n=user@i53875D27.versanet.de] has joined #t2 01:28 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87.198.192.226] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:03 -!- mpp [n=user@i53875D27.versanet.de] has quit ["good night - good fight"] 06:27 -!- axionix [n=axion@cpe-67-242-94-6.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 07:11 -!- bfg [n=bfg@ppp118-208-117-239.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net] has joined #t2 08:31 < mtr> moin 09:24 < rxr> moin mtr 09:35 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54A76408.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 09:54 < mtr> hi rxr 09:54 < CIA-8> rene * r30391 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.26.3 -> 2.6.26.5) 09:55 < CIA-8> rene * r30392 /trunk/package/security/libgcrypt/libgcrypt.desc: * updated libgcrypt (1.4.1 -> 1.4.2) 10:10 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@217.70.75.158] has quit [Client Quit] 10:53 -!- mpp [n=user@i53875D27.versanet.de] has joined #t2 10:54 < mpp> moinsen 11:47 < koan> how long is a stage 2 build of gcc supposed to take? 11:49 < mpp> ahm half an hour i guess 11:53 < koan> ok then ther's something wrong 11:54 < koan> after "Corrected ./libtool.m4" I don't see any output, but it's still building 11:55 < koan> for hours... 11:56 < rxr> on a single core G5 hours might be correct 11:56 < rxr> have you ever build a source distribution ? 11:56 < koan> gentoo, a long time ago :-) 11:56 < rxr> yeah, ... 11:57 < koan> on a iMac G3, that needed a whole weekend 11:57 < rxr> well - bootstrapping compiler and c library takes a little ... 11:57 < rxr> that is also why we provide pre-built stuff, including full desktop isos ... 11:57 < rxr> oh - and on 64 bit systems gcc builds most stuff twice ... once for 64 bit and then the 32bit compatibility fallback ... 11:57 < rxr> so you can double the build 11:58 < rxr> time on sparc64, powerpc64, x86-64, ... of gcc :-) 11:58 < koan> I'm not in a hurry, I was just worrying that something was wrong 11:58 < rxr> on my aging sparc64 at just 360MHz gcc needs more than 24h ... 11:58 < koan> :-) 11:59 < rxr> actually a whole desktop with kde needs approx. 2 weeks on that box ... 11:59 < rxr> or more than 2 weeks ... 11:59 < koan> heh I'm not planning to use KDE :-) 11:59 < koan> I'm using the awesome window manager 11:59 < rxr> ruby alone tried to bytecompile it's libraries for over 2 days on the box and some final thing got out-of-memory killed by the kernel after 2 days :-((( 11:59 < rxr> need to find more ECC RAM for this old box - or a new sparc machine ... 12:00 < koan> and can I disable the 32 bit versions of gcc, glibc etc? or do I really need them? 12:04 < rxr> maybe you need them for yaboot to build 12:04 < rxr> same on x86-64, where in a default t2 build only grub and lilo require them to work at all 12:11 < koan> ok 12:16 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:16 < mpp> hey rxr 12:16 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 12:17 < mpp> have built a new package for t2 12:17 < mpp> im testing if build process is okay 12:17 < mpp> the would commit it via ml 12:22 < rxr> nice 12:22 < rxr> btw. did I already say moin? moin mpp :-) 12:23 < koan> what's moin btw? :-) 12:23 < mpp> moin rxr ! :-) 12:23 < mpp> gooooood mornin' 12:23 -!- mpp is now known as mpp_zen 12:23 < koan> :-) 12:24 -!- mpp_zen is now known as mpp 12:24 < mpp> ;-) 12:40 < mpp> hey rxr 12:40 < mpp> the build priorities have a gap below 800 12:40 < mpp> for testing purpose i could place my packet at 700 - right ? 12:44 -!- Dallur [n=earl@fgfw.basis.is] has joined #t2 13:22 < mpp> hey rxr are you in cologne ? 13:23 < rxr> yes 13:23 < rxr> the next two days 13:24 < rxr> on the DMS show ... 13:24 < rxr> got some meetings 13:25 < rxr> you're in cologne ? 13:33 < mpp> close - could have been there this morning 13:33 < mpp> schade 13:33 < mpp> allright good luck there ! :-) 13:34 < rxr> we'll arrive tomorrow around lunchtime and leave the day after in the night 13:34 < rxr> I'm not sure if there is a free time-slot ... .-( 13:35 < mpp> thats okay - you ve got work to do man ! 13:35 < mpp> see you around 13:35 < mpp> greetings to the other exactcode / t2 people 13:36 < mpp> :-) 13:36 < rxr> :-) 13:38 < CIA-8> rene * r30393 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * updated linux24 (2.4.36.6 -> 2.4.36.7) 13:45 < CIA-8> rene * r30394 /trunk/package/network/cobbler/cobbler.desc: * updated cobbler (1.2.2 -> 1.2.4) 13:45 < CIA-8> rene * r30396 /trunk/package/develop/ctalk/ctalk.desc: * updated ctalk (0.0.69a -> 0.0.71a) 13:45 < CIA-8> rene * r30395 /trunk/package/gnome2/gedit-plugins/gedit-plugins.desc: * updated gedit-plugins (2.22.2 -> 2.22.3) 13:46 < CIA-8> rene * r30397 /trunk/package/network/collectd/collectd.desc: * updated collectd (4.4.2 -> 4.5.0) 13:55 < mpp> im currently messing arround with my svn syncing ... works good so far 14:29 -!- bfg [n=bfg@ppp118-208-117-239.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:40 < CIA-8> rene * r30398 /trunk/package/graphic/enblend/ (enblend.desc max.patch): * updated enblend (3.0 -> 3.2) 15:20 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 15:27 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 15:47 < rxr> mpp: the "without go-" openoffice-org package of your's works good? 15:47 < rxr> need something to update my parents box next weekend :-) 15:49 < mpp> ah...what do you mean exactly ? 15:50 < rxr> err 15:50 < rxr> mtr: ... 15:50 < rxr> mtr: the "without go-" openoffice-org package of your's works good? 15:50 [Users #t2] 15:50 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur ] [ felanha] [ koan] [ mtr ] [ TobiX] 15:50 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ hwinkel] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] 15:50 [ CIA-8 ] [ Enqlave] [ jay2 ] [ mpp ] [ rxr ] 15:50 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 15:50 < mpp> i think i missed something 15:51 < rxr> yeah - wanted to ask mtr .-) 15:51 < rxr> sorry 15:51 < mpp> ah mtr 15:51 < mpp> :-) 15:51 < rxr> tab completion hit me ... 16:07 -!- n6pfk [n=urk@c-76-104-40-104.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #t2 16:18 -!- n6pfk [n=urk@c-76-104-40-104.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:21 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/console/Nintendo/Wii/ 16:21 < rxr> ^- got the cpuinfo from the hacker who runs T2 on his Wii :-) 16:25 < koan> nice 16:25 < koan> btw, is T2 also runnnig on routers? 16:26 < rxr> sure 16:26 < koan> I saw a wrt target, but it was 'experimental', I think 16:28 < koan> does it use openwrt code or is it completely independent? 16:28 < rxr> the wrt2 target for linksys alike routers is still incomplete 16:28 < rxr> patches welcome 16:28 < rxr> it reuses kernel patch from the open/free wrt 16:29 < rxr> those projects mostly just patch collectors anyway, using the same uclibc, busybox et. al. T2 provides for ages anyway 16:29 < rxr> but there are increasing amounts of companies using t2 for all sorts of embedded devices 16:29 < rxr> from routers to settop boxes .. 16:29 < koan> well, I have a Asus wireless router I would like to experiment with 16:30 < rxr> getting t2 to run on it is motly a matter of collecting the kernel patches for the specific chipset 16:32 < koan> ok I'll place it on my long TODO list :-) 16:32 < mtr> rxr: OOo-without-go works fine and runs stable 16:34 < mtr> I had one issue with files on NFS 16:34 < mtr> soffice exports SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 by default 16:35 < mtr> I had to disable the locking for nfs volumes 16:37 < rxr> mtr: I get an build error 16:37 < rxr> checking for MOZ_NSS... configure: error: Package requirements (libxul-nss ) were not met: 16:37 < rxr> No package 'libxul-nss' found 16:37 < rxr> which package does provide that? 16:37 < rxr> apparently not xulrunner :-( 16:38 < rxr> do you have a recent .cache file for openoffice-org (without -go)? if so just commit it for my Emerge as inspiration .-) 16:42 < mpp> rxr: how do you generate .cache files for new packages ? 16:45 < rxr> any package build produces on in var/adm/cache/ 16:45 < rxr> Emerge in your rootfs, Build-Target in the build sandbox build/.../ 16:47 < mpp> ah cool 17:26 -!- mpp [n=user@i53875D27.versanet.de] has quit ["good night - good fight"] 17:35 < mtr> rxr: xulrunner provides libxul-nss.pc, and thats what OOo preferres 17:35 < CIA-8> mtr * r30399 /trunk/package/office/openoffice-org/openoffice-org.cache: * updated openoffice-org cache file 17:56 -!- mpp [n=user@i53875D27.versanet.de] has joined #t2 18:05 < mpp> anyone being dealing with those nifty udev message on t2-trunk ? 18:33 < rxr> nope I just ignore them *duck* 18:33 < rxr> mtr: strange I have xulrunner built here ... 18:34 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87.198.192.226] has joined #t2 18:34 < Baldzius> moin 18:34 < rxr> hi Baldzius 18:34 < Baldzius> hey rxr 18:37 < rxr> mtr: that was on a t2/trunk:HEAD reference build ... 18:37 < rxr> mtr: I'll double check on my notebook 18:37 < rxr> btw. I'll not be much around till next monday. ... 18:47 < mpp> moin baldzius 18:55 < CIA-8> rene * r30400 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/exact-image.desc: * updated exact-image (0.5.3 -> 0.6.0) 18:56 < rxr> ^- this release features (among improvements here and there) a completely rewritten PDF writer, that now can write any text and vector stuff (opposed to formerly just dumping an image into a PDF container), and features a new program named hocr2pdf which is as far as I know the first open source thing to create searchable PDF unter linux, using annotated HTML output from cuneiform 18:56 < rxr> have fun 18:57 < rxr> official announcement to the outside world later 18:58 < rxr> ^- searchable pdf from scanned images 19:00 < Baldzius> hi mpp 19:02 < mpp> whatz up :-) ? 19:07 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54A76408.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:34 < CIA-8> rene * r30401 /trunk/package/graphic/cuneiform/html-hocr.patch: 19:34 < CIA-8> * patched cuneiform to generate bbox annotated "hOCR" "HTML" 19:34 < CIA-8> (this will probably be conditionally, later) 19:40 < koan> I have this error in stage 3 building of gettext: http://pastebin.com/m21230b9c 19:42 < rxr> oh - damn, yes I know that 19:42 < rxr> spent 1 hour tracking it alread 19:42 < rxr> y 19:42 < rxr> maybe just touch the log file 19:43 < rxr> or simpler rename the file from .err to .log and continue the build 19:43 < rxr> this error is big-endian specific and actually quite a stupid one just in autoconf/automake - but I still have not found a nice way to fix it .-((( 19:43 < koan> ok 19:44 < koan> where is $root? 19:44 < rxr> build/... 19:44 < koan> ok 19:44 < rxr> ... == whatever you named your config etc. + UUID 19:46 < koan> ok building continues with another package 19:46 < CIA-8> rene * r30402 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/0.6.0-txt-typos.patch: 19:46 < CIA-8> * fixed 2 trivial text typo in the last exact-image release, just 19:46 < CIA-8> for the cosmetic of it 19:46 < rxr> yes, the next 19:46 < rxr> T2 uses the .log and .err log files to keep track of what to build 19:46 < koan> and this error is safe to skip? 19:46 < rxr> well - gettext was cross build, so it works already 19:47 < rxr> some language bindings you probably do not need will be missing 19:47 < rxr> java, c# 19:47 < rxr> you probably do not build in your minimal anyway :-) 19:47 < koan> :-) 19:48 < rxr> so - gotta go 19:48 < koan> btw, gcc needed 9 hours 19:48 < rxr> autsch 19:48 < koan> but I'm using this machine for other things like surfing and work stuff 19:48 < koan> so probably too much I/O stuff going on 19:49 < koan> I don't have a dedicated build machine 19:49 < rxr> I think your work stuff should now slow the build down much 19:49 < rxr> unless you run it "niced()'ed) 20:28 -!- jay2 [n=mtbardal@d216-232-227-101.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["Pleas Join #installwindowstolinux for help with dual boot operating systems :)"] 20:32 -!- Enqlave [i=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:34 -!- Enqlave [i=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 20:43 -!- Enqlave [i=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:53 -!- Enqlave [i=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 21:32 < CIA-8> mtr * r30403 /trunk/package/network/l7-filter/ (l7-filter.desc patch_o_matic.in): * updated l7-filter (2.19 -> 2.20) 21:37 < CIA-8> mtr * r30404 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-160/sun-jre-160.desc: * updated sun-jre-160 (6u5 -> 6u7) 21:37 < CIA-8> mtr * r30405 /trunk/package/java/apache-ant/ (apache-ant.conf apache-ant.desc): * updated apache-ant (1.7.0 -> 1.7.1) 22:16 -!- mpp [n=user@i53875D27.versanet.de] has quit ["good night - good fight"] 22:45 -!- mpp [n=user@i53875D27.versanet.de] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Wed Sep 10 00:00:07 2008