--- Log opened Mon Apr 28 00:00:08 2008 01:27 -!- youshe [n=youshe@91.68.208.8] has quit ["for(;;) malloc(sizeof(char));"] 03:21 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-69-235.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 04:17 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@adsl-074-229-035-019.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has quit ["ircN 8.00 for mIRC (20080413) - www.ircN.org"] 07:16 < magas> hi 08:35 < magas> which devices must be created manualy in /dev ? 08:36 < rxr> re 08:37 < rxr> magas: depends on your system dev/{null,zero,console} + your storage if could be enough for minimal systems 08:38 < rxr> for ful features systems, with pseudo terminals etc. there are some more 08:38 < magas> /dev/tty or /dev/vc/1 ? 08:38 < rxr> however, these days few people use static nodes, but rather udev or others to create them dynamically from what is available fromthe kernel 08:38 < magas> rxr: can i ask some quoestions about t2 ? 08:38 < rxr> sure 08:39 < rxr> though I just got back to berlin and have some urgent stuff on my desk (as usual) so it might take more than some seconds to anser :_) 08:39 < rxr> answer 08:40 < magas> what options i need in config (Image with initrd, LiveCD, install CD etc) to make system bootable from CF ? 08:40 < magas> what i need to copy ? rootfs, initrd.img ? 08:40 < magas> now i get Unable to mount root, or unable to open vc/1 with initrd 08:41 < magas> i use grub as bootloader 08:42 < magas> where is true root fs ? /t2-trunk/build/full_kern-8.0-trunk-iptv-x86-i386-cross/TOOLCHAIN/rootfs/ or /t2-trunk/build/full_kern-8.0-trunk-iptv-x86-i386-cross/{bin,etc,lib etc} 08:55 < rxr> /t2-trunk/build/full_kern-8.0-trunk-iptv-x86-i386-cross/{bin,etc,lib,...} is the sandox where everythin is built 08:56 < rxr> /t2-trunk/build/full_kern-8.0-trunk-iptv-x86-i386-cross/TOOLCHAIN/rootfs/ is where images for livecd's and others are built from the initial sandbox, e.g. by filtering stuff away or compression etc. 09:00 < magas> /t2-trunk/build/full_kern-8.0-trunk-iptv-x86-i386-cross/TOOLCHAIN/rootfs/ - i have only when i choose Initial RAM disk 09:02 < magas> bash-3.2# ls build/livecd-8.0-trunk-iptv-x86-i386-cross/TOOLCHAIN/ 09:02 < magas> initramfs isofs logs tools.cross 09:02 < magas> with LiveCD option 09:08 < CIA-4> rene * r28870 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: * updated poppler (0.8.0 -> 0.8.1) 09:09 < CIA-4> rene * r28871 /trunk/package/network/aoetools/aoetools.desc: * updated aoetools (24 -> 25) 09:12 < rxr> with livecd option you get the squashfs 09:12 < rxr> livecd also works good on CF if you want to have it read-only and modifiations in RAM or a second partition 09:13 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/targets/live/overlays.html 09:13 < rxr> when it does not find device nodes you probably just have not built udev 09:15 < CIA-4> rene * r28872 /trunk/package/develop/gengetopt/gengetopt.desc: * updated gengetopt (2.22 -> 2.22.1) 09:15 < CIA-4> rene * r28873 /trunk/package/develop/uncrustify/uncrustify.desc: * updated uncrustify (0.45 -> 0.46) 09:16 < CIA-4> rene * r28875 /trunk/package/perl/perl-authen-sasl/perl-authen-sasl.desc: * updated perl-authen-sasl (2.10 -> 2.11) 09:16 < CIA-4> rene * r28874 /trunk/package/security/libgcrypt/libgcrypt.desc: * updated libgcrypt (1.4.0 -> 1.4.1) 09:16 < CIA-4> rene * r28876 /trunk/package/perl/perl-net-ldap/perl-net-ldap.desc: * updated perl-net-ldap (0.35 -> 0.36) 09:16 < CIA-4> rene * r28877 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-input-joystick/xf86-input-joystick.desc: * updated xf86-input-joystick (1.3.1 -> 1.3.2) 09:22 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@port-87-193-170-219.static.qsc.de] has joined #t2 09:33 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87.198.192.226] has joined #t2 09:33 < Baldzius> moin 09:47 < rxr> hi Baldzius 09:48 < CIA-4> rene * r28878 /trunk/package/www/uriparser/uriparser.desc: * updated uriparser (0.7.0 -> 0.7.1) 09:48 < Baldzius> hi rxr 09:48 < CIA-4> rene * r28879 /trunk/package/security/prelude-lml/prelude-lml.desc: * updated prelude-lml (0.9.11 -> 0.9.12.2) 09:48 < CIA-4> rene * r28880 /trunk/package/gnome2/libxklavier/libxklavier.desc: * updated libxklavier (3.5 -> 3.6) 09:48 < CIA-4> rene * r28881 /trunk/package/network/libzrtpcpp/libzrtpcpp.desc: * updated libzrtpcpp (0.9.2 -> 1.1.0) 09:48 < CIA-4> rene * r28882 /trunk/package/network/libupnp/libupnp.desc: * updated libupnp (1.6.5 -> 1.6.6) 09:48 < CIA-4> rene * r28883 /trunk/package/network/pound/pound.desc: * updated pound (2.4.1 -> 2.4.2) 09:53 < magas> rxr: where build put squashfs 09:53 < magas> image ? 09:57 < CIA-4> aldas * r28884 /trunk/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc: * updated mysql (5.0.51a -> 5.0.51b) 09:57 < CIA-4> aldas * r28885 /trunk/package/office/gnucash/gnucash.desc: * updated gnucash (2.2.4 -> 2.2.5) 10:04 < rxr> TOOLCHAIN/isofs or so 10:04 < CIA-4> rene * r28886 /trunk/package/perl/imager/imager.desc: * updated imager (0.63 -> 0.64) 10:05 < CIA-4> rene * r28887 /trunk/package/base/freeipmi/freeipmi.desc: * updated freeipmi (0.5.6 -> 0.6.1) 10:07 < CIA-4> rene * r28888 /trunk/package/scientific/octave/octave.desc: * updated octave (3.0.0 -> 3.0.1) 10:07 < CIA-4> rene * r28889 /trunk/package/base/ipmiutil/ipmiutil.desc: * updated ipmiutil (2.1.0 -> 2.1.1) 10:07 < CIA-4> rene * r28890 /trunk/package/python/pycurl/pycurl.desc: * updated pycurl (7.16.4 -> 7.18.1) 10:08 < CIA-4> rene * r28891 /trunk/package/develop/hte/hte.desc: * updated hte (2.0.12 -> 2.0.13) 11:00 < magas> rxr: tlx is ready ? 12:46 < CIA-4> aldas * r28892 /trunk/package/develop/cmake/cmake.desc: * updated cmake (2.4.7 -> 2.4.8) 12:51 < CIA-4> aldas * r28893 /trunk/package/network/mod_security/mod_security.desc: * updated mod_security (2.1.6 -> 2.1.7) 13:12 < magas> bash-3.2# ls build/mytlx-8.0-trunk-tlx-x86-i386-cross/TOOLCHAIN/isofs/ 13:12 < magas> boot 13:12 < magas> isofs is empty 13:12 < magas> bash-3.2# ls build/mytlx-8.0-trunk-tlx-x86-i386-cross/TOOLCHAIN/ 13:12 < magas> initramfs isofs logs tools.cross 13:13 < magas> it's a tlx build (livecd) 13:41 < magas> i compiled about 100 diferent t2 images, result - absolut zero 13:42 < magas> t2 not ready for production ? only for entuziasts ? 14:13 < rxr> yes 14:13 < rxr> you just try to do advanced thing without t2 experience .. 14:13 < rxr> or little teaks like starting udev in your custom builds to get device-nodes .. 14:15 < magas> i have about 9 years experience in Linux 14:16 < magas> i builded my own distro with LFS 14:17 < magas> and i think, that t2 is very very complicated, same as Windows :) 14:23 < magas> i have non working images even with default configuration 14:23 < magas> for example, t2 rescue 14:23 < magas> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-perl.out 14:23 < magas> !> from /usr/include/stdio.h:28, 14:23 < magas> !> from try.c:1: 14:23 < magas> !> /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file or directory 14:23 < magas> !> *** WHOA THERE!!! *** 14:23 < magas> !> Your C compiler "gcc" doesn't seem to be working! 14:23 < magas> !> You'd better start hunting for one and let me know about it. 14:24 < magas> OS - T2 , target - default t2 rescue 14:31 < rxr> it is know that in trunk perl has a regression cross compiling in all configuration 14:31 < rxr> however, if you have images with the packages you want that just fali to mount the root device, why don't you just add udev or some static device nodes to that image and are done ? 14:33 < magas> dont't work 14:34 < magas> i added devices , compiled udev, udev start with init 14:36 < magas> i added zero, console, tty[1-10] /dev/vc{1,10} 14:36 < magas> i added udev 14:37 < magas> i compiled default kernel, i compiled my custom kernel 14:38 < magas> with almost all targets 14:38 < magas> nothing 14:40 < rxr> ok - how do you want your files resist on the CF and I setup the work-inprocess tlx target in such a way for you as documentation and T2 zine arcile for others to learn? 14:40 < rxr> some Unix FS or FAT? 14:40 < magas> ext2 ir ext3 14:40 < rxr> and udev or rather classic static nodes ? 14:40 < magas> udev 14:41 < magas> grub as bootloader 14:41 < rxr> and one partition, rw mounted ? 14:41 < rxr> or with some compressed image read-only mounted (squashfs et al.) ? 14:41 < magas> yes 14:41 < magas> not important 14:42 < magas> i only need godd example and working image 14:42 < rxr> ok - then I use read-write mount as normal systems are 14:42 < magas> good* 14:42 < rxr> as that is probably more natural for others to follow the example then ... 14:42 < magas> wchich image i need to boot - vmlinux or vmlinuz ? 14:45 < magas> i need only 1 thing - when i do Build-Target -cfg mystem, final result -minimal bootable system with populated /dev/ and sh 14:47 < magas> because now i'm very frustrated, disappointed etc 14:55 -!- youshe [n=youshe@91.68.208.8] has joined #t2 14:56 [Users #t2] 14:56 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-4 ] [ Enqlave ] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ] 14:56 [ __init__] [ dogmeat] [ hwinkel ] [ Ragnar|away] [ youshe ] 14:56 [ axionix_] [ dsoul ] [ magas ] [ rxr ] [ |beowulf|] 14:56 [ Baldzius] [ elias` ] [ mqueiros_] [ tfl0pz ] 14:56 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 15:50 -!- youshe [n=youshe@91.68.208.8] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 15:53 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit ["Dont wait to die to find paradise..."] 15:54 -!- Dallur [n=earl@fgfw.basis.is] has joined #t2 16:08 < CIA-4> mtr * r28894 /trunk/package/qt/qt-embedded/ (6 files): * added qt-embedded (4.4.0-rc1) - An application platform and user interface for Embedded Linux 16:18 < rxr> hi mtr 16:18 [Users #t2] 16:18 [@ChanServ] [ Baldzius] [ dogmeat] [ hwinkel ] [ mtr ] [ tfl0pz ] 16:18 [ __init__] [ CIA-4 ] [ dsoul ] [ magas ] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX ] 16:18 [ axionix_] [ Dallur ] [ elias` ] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] [ |beowulf|] 16:18 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 16:37 -!- youshe [n=youshe@91.68.208.8] has joined #t2 16:37 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 16:56 < mtr> hey rxr :) 17:34 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@adsl-149-75-61.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #t2 17:35 < rxr> wb kic- 17:35 < kic-> hola :) 17:35 < kic-> how are things? 17:35 < rxr> great as usual, and self ? 17:36 < kic-> pretty good 17:36 < kic-> started new job on friday 17:36 < kic-> lots of nifty things happening 17:37 < kic-> afk a sec, printer problem 18:03 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87.198.192.226] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:50 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@port-87-193-170-219.static.qsc.de] has left #t2 [] 19:21 -!- snakeroot [n=chris@68-244-208-84.area3.spcsdns.net] has joined #t2 19:50 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54B6AE40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 19:59 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-69-235.bragatel.pt] has quit [Client Quit] 20:01 -!- snakeroot [n=chris@68-244-208-84.area3.spcsdns.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:04 -!- snakeroot [n=chris@99-201-31-110.area3.spcsdns.net] has joined #t2 20:43 < magas> rxr: my pkgsel file is : http://pastebin.com/m689bda46 21:39 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54B6AE40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:41 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54B6AE40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 21:49 < kic-> back 21:52 -!- hwinke1 [n=hwinkel@p54B6AE40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 22:01 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54B6AE40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:30 -!- hwinke1 [n=hwinkel@p54B6AE40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 23:41 -!- snakeroot [n=chris@99-201-31-110.area3.spcsdns.net] has quit ["Leaving"] --- Log closed Tue Apr 29 00:00:08 2008