T2 IRC Log: 2008-04-02

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--- Log opened Wed Apr 02 00:00:53 2008
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08:48 < mtr> moin
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09:26 < rxr> re
09:26 < rxr> moin mtr
09:26 < DeeKey> morning all!
09:26 < rxr> moin DeeKey
09:29 < mtr> hi rxr, DeeKey
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10:08 < CIA-14> rene * r28544 /trunk/package/printing/cups/cups.desc: * updated cups (1.3.6 -> 1.3.7) - SECURITY
10:10 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0804/58716.html
10:12 < CIA-14> rene * r28545 /trunk/package/archiver/dpkg/dpkg.desc: * updated dpkg (1.14.16.6 -> 1.14.17)
10:14 < CIA-14> rene * r28546 /trunk/package/network/duplicity/duplicity.desc: * updated duplicity (0.4.9 -> 0.4.10)
10:16 < CIA-14> rene * r28547 /trunk/package/filesystem/dvdisaster/dvdisaster.desc: * updated dvdisaster (0.71.25 -> 0.71.26)
10:18 < CIA-14> rene * r28548 /trunk/package/network/nagios/nagios.desc: * updated nagios (3.0 -> 3.0.1)
11:34 < CIA-14> mtr * r28549 /trunk/package/kde/kdelibs/kde-conf.in: * guide kde4 to find the right qmake: prepend PATH with qt4 bindir
11:47 < CIA-14> mtr * r28550 /trunk/package/vdr/vdr/ (stdarg.patch vdr.desc): * updated vdr (1.5.12 -> 1.6.0)
11:48 < CIA-14> mtr * r28551 /trunk/package/vdr/vdr-vcd/ (makefile-includedir.patch vcd-0.7-1.3.38.patch vdr-vcd.desc): * updated vdr-vcd (0.7 -> 0.9)
11:48 < CIA-14> mtr * r28552 /trunk/package/vdr/vdr-pcd/vdr-pcd.desc: * updated vdr-pcd (0.0.3 -> 0.9)
11:49 < CIA-14> mtr * r28553 /trunk/package/vdr/vdr-osdteletext/api-vdr-1.5.x.patch: * fixed vdr-osdteletext for VDR 1.6 API
11:49 < CIA-14> mtr * r28554 /trunk/package/vdr/vdr-femon/vdr-femon.desc: * updated vdr-femon (1.2.2 -> 1.6.0)
11:50 < CIA-14> mtr * r28555 /trunk/package/vdr/vdr-epgsearch/vdr-epgsearch.desc: * updated vdr-epgsearch (0.9.19 -> 0.9.23)
11:53 < CIA-14> mtr * r28556 /trunk/package/vdr/vdr-text2skin/ (5 files):
11:53 < CIA-14> * updated vdr-text2skin (CVS-071007 -> CVS-080315)
11:53 < CIA-14> * added patches from authors at vdr-portal.de for VDR 1.6 API changes
11:53 < CIA-14> mtr * r28557 /trunk/package/vdr/vdr-iptv/ (5 files): * added vdr-iptv (0.0.7) - VDR Plugin: IPTV
11:55 < CIA-14> mtr * r28558 /trunk/package/vdr/vdr-pin/pin-vdr-dev.diff: * re-diffed vdr-pin plugin patch for current vdr version
11:55 < CIA-14> mtr * r28559 /trunk/package/vdr/vdrskin-soppalusikka/ (vdrskin-soppalusikka.conf vdrskin-soppalusikka.desc): * updated vdrskin-soppalusikka (1.1.2 -> 1.6.0)
12:02 < CIA-14> mtr * r28560 /trunk/package/vdr/vdrskin-enelchi/enelchi-0.7.2-locale.patch: * fixed vdrskin-enelchi, added patch from vdr-portal.de for new vdr locale support
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12:12 < mtr> hmm, I really wonder why fribidi includes the gnome2 settings: "[O] . $base/package/*/*/gnome2-conf.in"
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12:13 < mtr> mythtv would benefit from the prefix /usr instead of /opt/gnome2 ....
12:16 < CIA-14> mtr * r28561 /trunk/package/filesystem/nfs-utils/nfs-utils.conf: * fixed nfs-utils: libnfsidmap has openldap dependency
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13:25 < DeeKey> Where is a overall compilation log of t2?
13:26 < DeeKey> The one which is outputed to the console during the build..
13:33 < mtr> search through build/.../TOOLCHAIN/logs
13:34 < DeeKey> ok
13:35 < mtr> but afair these logfiles are sometimes messed up, I have a lot of 0-sized files
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17:41 < DeeKey> re
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17:55 < rxr> hi DeeKey
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20:07 < DeeKey> Now what is this error?!
20:07 < DeeKey> Building tools in build/.../TOOLCHAIN/tools.chroot:
20:07 < DeeKey> -> Building tools.chroot/wrapper/cmd_wrapper.
20:07 < DeeKey> cc: error trying to exec 'as': execvp: No such file or directory
20:07 < DeeKey> Do I need to build 1-gcc ?
20:35 < rxr> hm
20:35 < rxr> not too much input to diagnose :-(
20:39 < Ragnarin> hmmm ... the latest udev doesn't quite work for me
20:39 * rxr did not test that yet
20:39 < rxr> how does it behave ?
20:39 < rxr> (note I did not update it, only fixed for the dietlibc build ...)
20:43 < Ragnarin> well doesn't compile on 64 bit
20:43 < rxr> oh - ok - I can of course check that quickly ._)
20:43 < Ragnarin> then I added FPIC-QUIRK to dietlibc, which made it compile, but crash on udevtrigger
20:45 < rxr> indeed
20:45 < rxr> FPIC on dietlibc is not right-way(tm)
20:45 < rxr> must be something in udev, it worked before
20:45 < rxr> I'Ll check the next hours
20:45 < Ragnarin> lol
20:45 < Ragnarin> ok thanks
20:45 < rxr> maybe after dinner, though
20:46 < Ragnarin> have a good one :)
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21:33 < CIA-9> mtr * r28562 / (48 files in 45 dirs): (log message trimmed)
21:33 < CIA-9> * enlightenment/e17 snapshot update
21:33 < CIA-9> * updated evidence (2007-12-10 -> 2008-03-30)
21:33 < CIA-9> * updated etk (2007-12-10 -> 2008-03-30)
21:33 < CIA-9> * updated engage (2007-12-10 -> 2008-03-30)
21:33 < CIA-9> * updated examine (2007-12-10 -> 2008-03-30)
21:33 < CIA-9> * updated e-modules (2007-12-10 -> 2008-03-30)
21:34 < Ragnarin> e-rror :p
21:41 < DeeKey> I wonder why does T2 forked from rock linux? Seems that rock linux is dead by now..
21:53 < rxr> DeeKey: yeah - for thast reason :-)
21:53 < CIA-9> rene * r28563 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/patches/pkg_udev.patch: * fixed latest udev update to really not build the .so library when built with dietlibc
22:04 < DeeKey> But, actually I also expected that T2 will grow faster... Thought, that there will be much more targets then now.
22:04 < DeeKey> I find T2 the most easiest and logical of all MetaDistributives. I have tried Gentoo, OE, Rock, WRT
22:07 < rxr> yeah - we try hard, though
22:07 < rxr> ROCK was like one of the first source distributions 1998, but continously missed to fill the PR gap, we still have to catch that up
22:07 < rxr> but we do quite some trade show coverage, and more magazine stuff, articles etc.
22:08 < DeeKey> yeh, I think that the problem is with PR...
22:08 < rxr> you're welcome spreading the word :-)
22:08 < DeeKey> That what I am going to do...
22:08 < rxr> stuff that helped are the onlien package matrix:
22:09 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/
22:09 < rxr> hardware listings (please help expanding it):
22:09 < DeeKey> Yeh! THAT IS A REALLY HELPFUL THING!!!
22:09 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/
22:09 < rxr> and also the new zine:
22:09 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/zine/
22:09 < rxr> of course seeding google nicely
22:09 < rxr> btw. ExactCODE is even donating google adwords since like 6 months now
22:10 < DeeKey> Every project OE, GEntoo, etc.. There is no package matrix
22:10 < rxr> well - at least for gentoo there are some (maybe external) package listings ...
22:10 < rxr> but yes, I like ours, too :-)
22:10 < rxr> we could still enhance it, for our benefit and google seeding / new people attracting:
22:10 < rxr> HTML renderings of manual pages per package
22:11 < rxr> and searchable filelists globally and per package
22:11 < rxr> like what you find right now for e.g. "tar manual":
22:11 < rxr> http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?tar
22:11 < DeeKey> when i decided that I need to compile my own kernel I imagined a system with a list, where I will put the needed packages and the program will compile them all together.
22:11 < rxr> but I'm already like 200% saturated with night&daily work ...
22:12 < rxr> so - any stuff welcome
22:12 < rxr> zines, hardware listing, patches, mailing list messages
22:13 < rxr> homepage stuff is here: http://svn.exactcode.de/www-t2/
22:13 < DeeKey> I hope that soon I will add two new packages. I still need to polish some edges.
22:13 < rxr> handbook is here:
22:13 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2-handbook/trunk/
22:14 < rxr> you are on the worldmap already, aren't you?
22:14 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/
22:15 < DeeKey> Yes, I am..
22:15 < DeeKey> I remember there was a guy , who was trying to build for OLPC..
22:16 < rxr> yokoy --spelling-variants
22:16 < DeeKey> Yeh!
22:16 < DeeKey> Was he able to complete his project?
22:17 < rxr> his is only doing that in his spare time
22:17 < rxr> he is doing other stuff as main job and already doing UI design and promotion for OLPC
22:17 < DeeKey> but e is still doing it?
22:17 < rxr> yeah, he is from Berlin likewise, and we just met him at the CeBIT fair (he was on the OLPC project PR booth)
22:18 < DeeKey> that is good...
22:19 < DeeKey> Why does not he commit is target to T2?
22:20 < DeeKey> financial question?
22:25 < rxr> no, he is just involved in his free time in OLPC
22:25 < rxr> he is just practising / testing with T2
22:25 < rxr> like only on rainy weekends :-)
22:33 < DeeKey> rxr: I need to prepare a automatic build for the general purpose distro (ubuntu) .
22:33 < DeeKey> In short I need a) To build a new patched kernel
22:33 < DeeKey> b) few programs
22:33 < DeeKey> c) few graphic libs
22:33 < DeeKey> There must be a right sequence for that. So how to install the target not in the chroot, but to my distributive? Do i need to build everything in 1-2 stage?
22:37 < rxr> you mean into your running system?
22:37 < rxr> Build-Target always installs into the sandbox for packaging, ISO, ROM image creation
22:38 < rxr> if you want to build into your running system you can use Emerge-Pkg (or Build-Pkg directly if you later are a T2 guru :-)
22:39 < DeeKey> emerge will only emerge 1 package. I need many...
22:39 < rxr> you can Emerge-Pkg pkg1 pkg2
22:40 < rxr> you can also Emerge-Pkg -cfg your-custom-config -system
22:40 < rxr> the -system will build anything todo in that config/target
22:41 < DeeKey> then that is what i need..
22:41 < rxr> but test on a _test_-system before you ruine one :-)
22:42 < DeeKey> Of course i will do it in virtualiser or will make an image of a system..
22:42 < rxr> yes, please
22:46 < rxr> ok - cu then g' n8
22:46 < DeeKey> CU
23:26 < Ragnarin> gn8 :)
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