--- Log opened Tue Mar 11 00:00:11 2008 00:59 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has joined #T2 01:17 -!- Unleaded [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has joined #T2 01:18 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:18 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-70-8.bragatel.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:19 -!- Unleaded is now known as eme 01:20 -!- eme is now known as emte 02:04 -!- axionix [n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 02:13 -!- jeffdamet1 [n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-055-239.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has left #t2 [] 02:19 -!- jeffdameth [n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-055-239.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #t2 04:02 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: valentin, CIA-14 04:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: valentin, CIA-14 04:03 -!- Unleaded [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has joined #T2 04:03 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:04 -!- CIA-14 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 04:04 -!- CIA-31 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 05:29 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit ["Dont wait to die to find paradise..."] 06:15 -!- Unleaded [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:18 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has joined #T2 06:50 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54B6AD57.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 07:14 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54B6AD57.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 07:54 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:23 < rxr> re 08:39 < CIA-31> rene * r28299 /trunk/package/x11/cairomm/cairomm.desc: * updated cairomm (1.4.6 -> 1.4.8) 08:39 < CIA-31> rene * r28300 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-doc-utils/gnome-doc-utils.desc: * updated gnome-doc-utils (0.12.1 -> 0.12.2) 08:41 < CIA-31> rene * r28301 /trunk/package/network/lighttpd/lighttpd.desc: * updated lighttpd (1.4.18 -> 1.4.19) 08:46 < CIA-31> rene * r28302 /trunk/package/multimedia/lives/lives.desc: * updated lives (0.9.8.8 -> 0.9.8.9) 08:46 < CIA-31> rene * r28303 /trunk/package/gnome2/libxklavier/libxklavier.desc: * updated libxklavier (3.4 -> 3.5) 08:53 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/104779 08:53 < CIA-31> rene * r28304 /trunk/package/gnome2/glade3/glade3.desc: * updated glade3 (3.4.2 -> 3.4.3) 08:53 < CIA-31> rene * r28305 /trunk/package/gnome2/tomboy/tomboy.desc: * updated tomboy (0.9.8 -> 0.10.0) 08:55 -!- jeffdamet1 [n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-056-047.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #t2 09:11 -!- jeffdameth [n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-055-239.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 09:21 -!- Baldzius [n=aldas@89.127.178.76] has joined #t2 09:22 < Baldzius> moin 09:31 < rxr> moin Baldzius 09:31 < Baldzius> hi rxr 09:35 < Baldzius> rxr: i want to merge 3 commits, can you give me ~30min? 09:35 < rxr> sure 09:35 < rxr> I have a full fesk as usual anyway 09:41 < rxr> desk even 09:47 < CIA-31> aldas * r28306 /branches/7.0/package/network/lighttpd/lighttpd.desc: 09:47 < CIA-31> * merged r28301 from trunk to branches/7.0: 09:47 < CIA-31> updated lighttpd (1.4.18 -> 1.4.19) 09:50 < CIA-31> aldas * r28307 /trunk/package/filesystem/dvdisaster/dvdisaster.desc: * updated dvdisaster (0.70.5 -> 0.70.6) 09:55 < CIA-31> aldas * r28308 /branches/7.0/package/filesystem/dvdisaster/dvdisaster.desc: 09:55 < CIA-31> * merged r28092, r28307 from trunk to branches/7.0: 09:55 < CIA-31> updated dvdisaster (0.70.4 -> 0.70.5 -> 0.70.6) 10:04 < CIA-31> aldas * r28309 /branches/7.0/package/network/silc-toolkit/silc-toolkit.desc: 10:04 < CIA-31> * merged r25997, r26758, r26840, r28118 from trunk to branches/7.0: 10:04 < CIA-31> updated silc-toolkit (1.1.2 -> 1.1.6) 10:04 < CIA-31> security update: CVE-2008-1227 10:08 < CIA-31> aldas * r28310 /branches/7.0/package/network/silc-client/silc-client.desc: 10:08 < CIA-31> * merged r26773 from trunk to branches/7.0: 10:08 < CIA-31> updated silc-client (1.1.2 -> 1.1.3) 10:11 < Baldzius> rxr: i am done, at least for now :) 10:14 -!- Xor_ [n=Oscar@11.Red-80-38-62.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #T2 10:14 < Xor_> hello all! 10:16 < Xor_> Good morning , is there anybody here T2 developer? 10:20 < rxr> sure :-) 10:21 [Users #t2] 10:21 [@ChanServ] [ Baldzius] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 10:21 [ __init__] [ CIA-31 ] [ elias` ] [ mtr ] [ shevy] [ Xor_ ] 10:21 [ axionix ] [ Dallur ] [ jeffdamet1] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX] 10:21 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 10:22 < Xor_> hello, I'm triying to download T2 source code from svn server, but I always get an error 10:23 < rxr> wich error ? 10:23 < rxr> or maybe you use the svn:// protocol ? 10:23 < rxr> we recently had to disable that on the server 10:23 < Xor_> cant connect to server http://svn.exactcode.de/trunk 10:24 < rxr> there is a t2/ missin in the URL 10:24 < rxr> try: svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk 10:24 < rxr> do we list the wront URL somewhere ? 10:24 < Xor_> i wrote: svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk 10:25 < rxr> 10:23 < Xor_> cant connect to server http://svn.exactcode.de/trunk 10:25 < Xor_> look the entire sequence: 10:25 < Xor_> svn co -N http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk 10:25 < Xor_> svn: requerimiento PROPFIND falló en '/t2/trunk' 10:25 < Xor_> svn: PROPFIND de '/t2/trunk': no se pudo conectarse al servidor (http://svn.exactcode.de) 10:26 < rxr> Xor_: if you use the correct URL, maybe some proxy in between that does not pass the WEBDAV protocol as used by subversion 10:26 < rxr> you could try using https:// in that case 10:26 < rxr> svn co https://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk 10:26 < rxr> https:// should be more likely just passed by PROXY servers to the actual Subversion server 10:26 < Xor_> ok thanks, i go to try 10:27 < Xor_> thanks, now is running !!! XD 10:28 < rxr> ok great 10:28 < Xor_> i was in ceBit, and i met suzanne, you know her? 10:29 < rxr> yes 10:29 < rxr> we're both from exactcode :-) 10:29 < rxr> maybe you meet be too as I was also at the CeBIT 10:30 < elias`> hm. this must be the tenth iteration of progressively changing configs to pinpoint which option causes glibc build to fail 10:31 < elias`> any better way to track where it gives an incompatible switch to gcc? 10:31 < Xor_> i'm Oscar Casamitjana from Spain, i gave her my contact details 10:33 < rxr> elias`: maybe post the build error to some paste server or your http server and we could take a look 10:33 < rxr> elias`: what exactly are you building ? 10:33 < rxr> Xor_: nice to see the first cebit contact appearing here :_) 10:33 < elias`> rxr: was just trying to build a system for the first time 10:35 < elias`> this was some time ago here: 10:35 < elias`> 19:28:08 weird. I was compiling a system from svn head, I got an error which someone else got 9 months ago according to IRC logs found by google. 10:35 < elias`> 19:28:25 glibc doesn't compile due to gcc being passed both -r and -shared 10:35 < elias`> 19:28:51 for the reference, the IRC log in question is http://www.t2-project.org/irclogs/t2-2007-06-18 10:38 < rxr> elias`: ah, thanks missed those irc scollback :-) 10:40 < rxr> elias`: what target and config option did you choose? I'd like to try to reproduce ? 10:41 < elias`> among other things, it was x86 athlon-xp cross-compile from some x86-64 system 10:41 < elias`> I've deleted some of the configs I've used already, but I might have one which still fails 10:45 < rxr> maybe related to the host distribution, what linux flavour do you build on ? 10:46 < elias`> it's debian sid, the config is here btw: http://pastebin.com/m6fe93a82 10:49 < elias`> I tried to run some t2 cd with qemu too, but wouldn't apparently emulate 64-bit x86 properly 11:11 -!- shevy [n=shevy@chello080108103172.36.11.univie.teleweb.at] has quit [""""] 11:12 -!- shevy [n=shevy@chello080108103172.36.11.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #t2 11:28 < Baldzius> rxr: svn doesn't work? 11:32 < rxr> .oO 11:36 < rxr> hm 11:36 < rxr> should work again 11:36 < rxr> strange, we did not had such a strangle bdb locking issue for some time now ... 12:26 < elias`> I've now reduced the number of possible erroneous options to two apparently, SDECFG_LD_AS_NEEDED and SDECFG_PIE. the latter seems to be the most likely cause for glibc failing to compile 12:27 < rxr> ah yes, 12:27 < rxr> those are a little fragile 12:27 < rxr> probably it is PIE and we need to change not to mess with it for the glibc build but enable some --enable-pie or so option of glibc's configure 12:50 < rxr> re 13:48 -!- emte [n=emte@d154-5-40-109.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #T2 14:31 < elias`> so I removed to PIE option, now perl compilation fails with "Can't locate File/Glob.pm in @INC (@INC contains: lib) at installperl line 157" 14:59 -!- CIA-31 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 15:05 -!- CIA-14 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 15:13 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 15:17 -!- emte [n=emte@d154-5-40-109.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:03 -!- shevy [n=shevy@chello080108103172.36.11.univie.teleweb.at] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:15 -!- shevy [n=shevy@chello080108103172.36.11.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #t2 18:11 -!- mtr [n=michael@v29762.1blu.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:14 -!- mtr [n=michael@v29762.1blu.de] has joined #t2 18:52 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADB4C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 19:02 -!- shevy [n=shevy@chello080108103172.36.11.univie.teleweb.at] has quit [""""] 19:02 -!- shevy [n=shevy@chello080108103172.36.11.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #t2 19:28 [Users #t2] 19:28 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-14] [ Enqlave ] [ Ragnar|away] [ tri ] 19:28 [ __init__] [ Dallur] [ jeffdamet1] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 19:28 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ shevy ] [ Xor_ ] 19:28 [ Baldzius] [ elias`] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ] 19:28 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 19:28 [Users #t2] 19:28 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-14] [ Enqlave ] [ Ragnar|away] [ tri ] 19:28 [ __init__] [ Dallur] [ jeffdamet1] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 19:28 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ shevy ] [ Xor_ ] 19:28 [ Baldzius] [ elias`] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ] 19:28 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 19:31 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit ["Dont wait to die to find paradise..."] 19:32 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 19:33 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit [Client Quit] 19:33 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 20:55 -!- jeffdamet2 [n=jeff@dyndsl-085-016-236-100.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #t2 21:11 -!- jeffdamet1 [n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-056-047.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:25 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADB4C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 21:40 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADB4C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 22:18 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54B6AD57.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 22:19 -!- jmafc [n=jmafc@pool-96-228-149-95.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #t2 22:23 -!- Baldzius [n=aldas@89.127.178.76] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:26 < jmafc> Hi! first time here, so pls be gentle :-). In the Build Config screen, the Help for Target mentions, among others, Boot, Generic, Minimal and Desktop, but the actual selection screen lists Exact Desktop, Generic System (and Generic Embedded) but no Boot or Minimal. Is that just the Help being out of date? 22:27 < jmafc> also why is it that every time I switch screens (runnning under GNOME term), there's a 5 sec pregnant pause and msgs like the following on the screen: 22:27 < jmafc> INSTALL DYNLIB /home/jma/src/t2/src/Linux-i686/bash/luabash.so 22:27 < jmafc> LUA accelerator (C) 2006 by Valentin Ziegler & Rene Rebe, ExactCODE 22:27 < jmafc> Building src/luabash.so. 22:37 < elias`> I'm not a dev but apparently the code for config wasn't at all built to scale with the number of packages, etc. there are now 22:38 < jmafc> I see ... 22:41 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADB4C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 22:46 < jmafc> elias`, I assume you've built T2 at least once? 22:47 < elias`> not succesful yet 22:48 < elias`> first had to pinpoint glibc build failure using about 10 iterations of config options to find one which caused it to fail and now perl fails 22:49 < jmafc> am I correct to understand that "Continue on package error after stage 4" means it "aborts if a package build errors *before* stage 4"? 22:49 < jmafc> but I guess you're still at stage 1? 22:52 < elias`> apparently I am. I would agree on that interpretation 22:56 < jmafc> if you don't mind me asking, are you building from T2 or from some other platform? 23:14 < jmafc> more importantly, at what point do you get to choose what packages it will build? I choose Minimalistic package selection but it didn't show me anything further in the Config app. And if I do ./script/Download -list it wants to download 3279 packages! 23:24 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54B6AD57.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 23:24 < elias`> was looking at other things... I'm building on debian sid on amd64 (cross-compile to x86 though), couldn't get the latest t2 livecd thingy to work in qemu. 23:25 < elias`> I don't currently care about that as I could just later install whatever I need on the new t2 system 23:28 < jmafc> but did you download all the pkgs first or just the ones you thought you needed/wanted? 23:28 < elias`> I didn't specify anything. it downloaded something, not that I care too much at this point --- Log closed Wed Mar 12 00:00:11 2008