T2 IRC Log: 2007-11-19
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--- Log opened Mon Nov 19 00:00:04 2007
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08:28 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org
08:28 -!- Topic set by H4X [] [Tue Jun 26 17:57:25 2007]
08:28 [Users #t2]
08:28 [@ChanServ] [ crazy] [ Enqlave ] [ LMJ ] [ pennyk_ ] [ TobiX]
08:28 [ CIA-12 ] [ Cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros_] [ Ragnar|away] [ yokoy]
08:28 [ Codex ] [ dsoul] [ Key_Gena] [ mtr ] [ rxr ]
08:28 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
08:28 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Nov 26 07:44:08 2006
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08:32 < valentin> hi
08:32 < valentin> man, that was a fight
08:33 < valentin> i hope you all are able to reach the websites again
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09:53 < rxr> re
09:57 < mtr> hi rxr
10:04 < CIA-12> rene * r26938 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.23.1 -> 2.6.23.2)
10:04 < rxr> moin mtr
10:04 < CIA-12> rene * r26939 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.23.2 -> 2.6.23.3)
10:06 < CIA-12> rene * r26940 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.23.3 -> 2.6.23.4)
10:06 < CIA-12> rene * r26941 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.23.4 -> 2.6.23.5)
10:07 < CIA-12> rene * r26942 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.23.5 -> 2.6.23.6)
10:08 < Ragnar|away> uhm ok???
10:08 < Ragnar|away> lol
10:08 < rxr> hi Ragnar|away
10:08 < Ragnar|away> hey rene :)
10:08 < rxr> I first thought well one commit does, too
10:08 < CIA-12> rene * r26943 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.23.6 -> 2.6.23.7)
10:08 < rxr> but I decided to commit them all so we can revert broken ones .-)
10:09 < Ragnar|away> uh huh lol
10:09 < Ragnar|away> admit it you just wanna rise the activity stats :D
10:09 < Ragnar|away> raise*
10:10 < CIA-12> rene * r26944 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.23.7 -> 2.6.23.8)
10:15 < CIA-12> rene * r26945 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.5.3.5 -> 1.5.3.6)
10:27 < CIA-12> rene * r26946 /trunk/package/base/gettext/ (gettext.desc ret-types.patch.disabled): * cleaned up the gettext package, added Url tag and removed obsolete patch
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12:21 [ Codex ] [ Enqlave] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ yokoy ]
12:21 [ crazy ] [ Fatal ] [ Negher ] [ TobiX ]
12:21 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal]
12:21 < rxr> hi write_erase
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14:03 < CIA-12> rene * r26947 /trunk/package/x86/syslinux/syslinux.desc: * updated syslinux (3.52 -> 3.53)
14:37 < pennyk_> What's the advantage of T2-project?
14:42 < rxr> clean source packages, up-to-date packages, cross compilation, all Linux architectures (not just some subset), soon non-Linxu kernels, instal & livecd creation
14:42 < rxr> to name a little
14:43 < rxr> our homepage and wikipedia as well as google should give you quite a broad impression
14:46 < pennyk_> AFAIK, putting packages together is easy, but, fixing compatibility problems is hard.
14:47 < pennyk_> Do you have enough man-power to fix all the compatibility issues?
14:47 < rxr> ehrm we do so since years
14:48 < rxr> actually when the underlying project was started in as early as 1998 we where one of the first source distributions
14:48 < rxr> if not the first
14:48 < rxr> we fixed all kinds of bootstaping problem, including the egcs and gcc-3 transitions etc.
14:48 < rxr> btw. packaging packages that cross compile is not that easy quite a lot of details to get right
14:50 < pennyk_> So t2 is not a distribution release. It is a distribution builder?
14:51 < rxr> you can call it a "distribution builder", yes
14:51 < rxr> however we also provide prebuild releases
14:51 < rxr> we have regular stable releases, for which we also provide prebuild images that are installable or livecd's
14:51 < rxr> but most people use t2 to build from source,
14:51 < rxr> including a lot embedded product cross builds
14:52 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/architectures/
14:52 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/targets/
14:52 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/releases/
14:52 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/
14:53 < rxr> valentin: I just improved our gnustep packages to install into the file-system root (/)
14:53 < pennyk_> How many users are using t2? Can you give me a number(estimation is ok)?
14:53 < rxr> that has the nice effect that not only the pathes are not as crappy anymore (usr/Application etc.) thes are also identical to Mac OS X: /Application, /Library, /System, :-)
14:53 < rxr> pennyk_: no idea, users probably multiple thousands
14:54 < rxr> we have over 20000 unique vistors on the main website and usually over 1TB per month of ISO downloads on the primary university server
14:54 < rxr> and something over 20 people with write access to the SVN
14:55 < rxr> maybe we should introcude a Mac OS X a-like user registration during the OS install to get accurate numbers :-)
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14:58 [ CIA-12 ] [ DigitalOktay] [ Key_Gena90] [ pennyk_ ] [ valentin ]
14:58 [ Codex ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnar|away] [ write_erase]
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14:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal]
14:58 < pennyk_> thx
14:59 < rxr> your're welcome
15:21 < rxr> yokoy: this also fixed sope for now, on-the-way
15:22 < Cyda> moin
15:27 < rxr> hey Cyda
15:29 < Cyda> still planning on paying florida another visit?
15:30 < rxr> probably, though not in the next days
15:30 < rxr> asking for a reason ?
15:31 < Cyda> nah just curious, you had mentioned it might be soon
15:36 < rxr> heh
15:36 < rxr> how's your new job going ?
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16:00 < sepp> moin :)
16:01 < rxr> hi sepp
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16:01 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal]
16:02 < sepp> hi rxr
16:03 < sepp> finally understood when e17 locks up
16:04 < rxr> heh ?
16:05 < sepp> stupid weather module hangs (and locks everything) when it gets no response, some moron disconnects me all 24h
16:07 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/go.shtml?read=1&msg_id=13916042&forum_id=127504
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16:08 < Baldzius> moin
16:08 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/go.shtml?read=1&msg_id=13915766&forum_id=127504
16:09 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/go.shtml?list=1&forum_id=127504
16:09 < rxr> heh
16:09 < rxr> this electricity article has nice threads :-)
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16:15 < rxr> hi Baldzius
16:15 < Baldzius> hi rxr
16:15 < Cyda> rxr: its nice, still adapting though
16:17 < Cyda> oh and the hours are much friendlier
16:22 < CIA-12> rene * r26950 /trunk/package/gnustep/emacs-app/ (. emacs-app.cache emacs-app.conf emacs-app.desc): * added emacs-app (23.0.0_NS-9.0rc2a) - NeXT/OpenStep Emacs for GNUstep and OS X
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16:39 < CIA-12> aldas * r26951 /branches/7.0/package/network/samba/ (samba.conf samba.desc):
16:39 < CIA-12> * merged r26935, r26949 from trunk to branches/7.0:
16:39 < CIA-12> updated samba (3.0.26a -> 3.0.27)
16:39 < CIA-12> fixed samba cross building to enter the source directory before
16:39 < CIA-12> the config.cache is filled
16:39 < CIA-12> security update: CVE-2007-4572, CVE-2007-5398
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16:50 < CIA-12> aldas * r26952 /branches/7.0/package/x11/xscreensaver/xscreensaver.desc:
16:50 < CIA-12> * merged r26876 from trunk to branches/7.0:
16:51 < CIA-12> updated xscreensaver (5.03 -> 5.04)
16:51 < CIA-12> security update: CVE-2007-5585
16:58 < CIA-12> aldas * r26953 /trunk/package/mail/claws-mail/claws-mail.desc: * updated claws-mail (3.0.2 -> 3.1.0)
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17:43 < CIA-12> rene * r26954 /trunk/package/gnustep/steptalk/ (. steptalk.cache steptalk.desc): * added steptalk (0.10.0) - Objective-C / GNUstep scripting support
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22:03 < tri> moin
22:09 < sepp> hi tri
22:13 < tri> sepp: haven't met you for a while how are you ?
22:13 < sepp> fine, and you?
22:15 < tri> thx, i'm also fine :-)
23:01 < tri> gn8
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08:28 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org
08:28 -!- Topic set by H4X [] [Tue Jun 26 17:57:25 2007]
08:28 [Users #t2]
08:28 [@ChanServ] [ crazy] [ Enqlave ] [ LMJ ] [ pennyk_ ] [ TobiX]
08:28 [ CIA-12 ] [ Cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros_] [ Ragnar|away] [ yokoy]
08:28 [ Codex ] [ dsoul] [ Key_Gena] [ mtr ] [ rxr ]
08:28 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
08:28 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Nov 26 07:44:08 2006
08:28 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg
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08:32 < valentin> hi
08:32 < valentin> man, that was a fight
08:33 < valentin> i hope you all are able to reach the websites again
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09:53 < rxr> re
09:57 < mtr> hi rxr
10:04 < CIA-12> rene * r26938 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.23.1 -> 2.6.23.2)
10:04 < rxr> moin mtr
10:04 < CIA-12> rene * r26939 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.23.2 -> 2.6.23.3)
10:06 < CIA-12> rene * r26940 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.23.3 -> 2.6.23.4)
10:06 < CIA-12> rene * r26941 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.23.4 -> 2.6.23.5)
10:07 < CIA-12> rene * r26942 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.23.5 -> 2.6.23.6)
10:08 < Ragnar|away> uhm ok???
10:08 < Ragnar|away> lol
10:08 < rxr> hi Ragnar|away
10:08 < Ragnar|away> hey rene :)
10:08 < rxr> I first thought well one commit does, too
10:08 < CIA-12> rene * r26943 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.23.6 -> 2.6.23.7)
10:08 < rxr> but I decided to commit them all so we can revert broken ones .-)
10:09 < Ragnar|away> uh huh lol
10:09 < Ragnar|away> admit it you just wanna rise the activity stats :D
10:09 < Ragnar|away> raise*
10:10 < CIA-12> rene * r26944 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.23.7 -> 2.6.23.8)
10:15 < CIA-12> rene * r26945 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.5.3.5 -> 1.5.3.6)
10:27 < CIA-12> rene * r26946 /trunk/package/base/gettext/ (gettext.desc ret-types.patch.disabled): * cleaned up the gettext package, added Url tag and removed obsolete patch
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12:21 < rxr> hi write_erase
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14:03 < CIA-12> rene * r26947 /trunk/package/x86/syslinux/syslinux.desc: * updated syslinux (3.52 -> 3.53)
14:37 < pennyk_> What's the advantage of T2-project?
14:42 < rxr> clean source packages, up-to-date packages, cross compilation, all Linux architectures (not just some subset), soon non-Linxu kernels, instal & livecd creation
14:42 < rxr> to name a little
14:43 < rxr> our homepage and wikipedia as well as google should give you quite a broad impression
14:46 < pennyk_> AFAIK, putting packages together is easy, but, fixing compatibility problems is hard.
14:47 < pennyk_> Do you have enough man-power to fix all the compatibility issues?
14:47 < rxr> ehrm we do so since years
14:48 < rxr> actually when the underlying project was started in as early as 1998 we where one of the first source distributions
14:48 < rxr> if not the first
14:48 < rxr> we fixed all kinds of bootstaping problem, including the egcs and gcc-3 transitions etc.
14:48 < rxr> btw. packaging packages that cross compile is not that easy quite a lot of details to get right
14:50 < pennyk_> So t2 is not a distribution release. It is a distribution builder?
14:51 < rxr> you can call it a "distribution builder", yes
14:51 < rxr> however we also provide prebuild releases
14:51 < rxr> we have regular stable releases, for which we also provide prebuild images that are installable or livecd's
14:51 < rxr> but most people use t2 to build from source,
14:51 < rxr> including a lot embedded product cross builds
14:52 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/architectures/
14:52 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/targets/
14:52 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/releases/
14:52 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/
14:53 < rxr> valentin: I just improved our gnustep packages to install into the file-system root (/)
14:53 < pennyk_> How many users are using t2? Can you give me a number(estimation is ok)?
14:53 < rxr> that has the nice effect that not only the pathes are not as crappy anymore (usr/Application etc.) thes are also identical to Mac OS X: /Application, /Library, /System, :-)
14:53 < rxr> pennyk_: no idea, users probably multiple thousands
14:54 < rxr> we have over 20000 unique vistors on the main website and usually over 1TB per month of ISO downloads on the primary university server
14:54 < rxr> and something over 20 people with write access to the SVN
14:55 < rxr> maybe we should introcude a Mac OS X a-like user registration during the OS install to get accurate numbers :-)
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14:58 [ CIA-12 ] [ DigitalOktay] [ Key_Gena90] [ pennyk_ ] [ valentin ]
14:58 [ Codex ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnar|away] [ write_erase]
14:58 [ crazy ] [ Enqlave ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ yokoy ]
14:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal]
14:58 < pennyk_> thx
14:59 < rxr> your're welcome
15:21 < rxr> yokoy: this also fixed sope for now, on-the-way
15:22 < Cyda> moin
15:27 < rxr> hey Cyda
15:29 < Cyda> still planning on paying florida another visit?
15:30 < rxr> probably, though not in the next days
15:30 < rxr> asking for a reason ?
15:31 < Cyda> nah just curious, you had mentioned it might be soon
15:36 < rxr> heh
15:36 < rxr> how's your new job going ?
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16:00 < sepp> moin :)
16:01 < rxr> hi sepp
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16:01 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal]
16:02 < sepp> hi rxr
16:03 < sepp> finally understood when e17 locks up
16:04 < rxr> heh ?
16:05 < sepp> stupid weather module hangs (and locks everything) when it gets no response, some moron disconnects me all 24h
16:07 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/go.shtml?read=1&msg_id=13916042&forum_id=127504
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16:08 < Baldzius> moin
16:08 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/go.shtml?read=1&msg_id=13915766&forum_id=127504
16:09 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/go.shtml?list=1&forum_id=127504
16:09 < rxr> heh
16:09 < rxr> this electricity article has nice threads :-)
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16:15 < rxr> hi Baldzius
16:15 < Baldzius> hi rxr
16:15 < Cyda> rxr: its nice, still adapting though
16:17 < Cyda> oh and the hours are much friendlier
16:22 < CIA-12> rene * r26950 /trunk/package/gnustep/emacs-app/ (. emacs-app.cache emacs-app.conf emacs-app.desc): * added emacs-app (23.0.0_NS-9.0rc2a) - NeXT/OpenStep Emacs for GNUstep and OS X
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16:39 < CIA-12> aldas * r26951 /branches/7.0/package/network/samba/ (samba.conf samba.desc):
16:39 < CIA-12> * merged r26935, r26949 from trunk to branches/7.0:
16:39 < CIA-12> updated samba (3.0.26a -> 3.0.27)
16:39 < CIA-12> fixed samba cross building to enter the source directory before
16:39 < CIA-12> the config.cache is filled
16:39 < CIA-12> security update: CVE-2007-4572, CVE-2007-5398
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16:50 < CIA-12> aldas * r26952 /branches/7.0/package/x11/xscreensaver/xscreensaver.desc:
16:50 < CIA-12> * merged r26876 from trunk to branches/7.0:
16:51 < CIA-12> updated xscreensaver (5.03 -> 5.04)
16:51 < CIA-12> security update: CVE-2007-5585
16:58 < CIA-12> aldas * r26953 /trunk/package/mail/claws-mail/claws-mail.desc: * updated claws-mail (3.0.2 -> 3.1.0)
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17:43 < CIA-12> rene * r26954 /trunk/package/gnustep/steptalk/ (. steptalk.cache steptalk.desc): * added steptalk (0.10.0) - Objective-C / GNUstep scripting support
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22:03 < tri> moin
22:09 < sepp> hi tri
22:13 < tri> sepp: haven't met you for a while how are you ?
22:13 < sepp> fine, and you?
22:15 < tri> thx, i'm also fine :-)
23:01 < tri> gn8
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