--- Log opened Tue Nov 13 00:00:18 2007 00:07 < tri> gn8 00:07 < tri> cu 00:08 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC3F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 01:16 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 01:55 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 02:06 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 02:08 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 02:22 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:23 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has joined #T2 02:26 -!- unleaded [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has joined #T2 02:26 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 03:35 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has joined #T2 03:41 -!- unleaded [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:41 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has joined #t2 05:02 -!- yokoy_ [n=yokoy@e178097004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 05:17 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e178101058.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:58 < rxr> moin 06:05 < emte> hey 06:19 < rxr> hi emte 06:34 < CIA-12> rene * r26871 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-i810/xf86-video-i810.desc: * updated xf86-video-i810 (2.1.1 -> 2.1.99) 06:50 < CIA-12> rene * r26872 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-ati/xf86-video-ati.desc: * updated xf86-video-ati (6.7.195 -> 6.7.196) 06:51 -!- KillerX [n=anant@gentoo/student/KillerX] has joined #t2 06:51 < rxr> hi KillerX 06:52 < KillerX> hi rxr! 06:54 < KillerX> rxr: I have a list of builds that fail on embedded target with dietlibc 06:54 < KillerX> Most of them I can live without, but coreutils fails too :( 06:55 < KillerX> So I can't `ls' ;) 06:55 < rxr> trunk or branches/7.0 ? 06:56 < rxr> (i guess for x86?) 06:56 < KillerX> x86, trunk 06:57 < CIA-12> rene * r26873 /trunk/package/x11/cairomm/cairomm.desc: * updated cairomm (1.4.4 -> 1.4.6) 06:58 < KillerX> http://pastebin.osuosl.org/3371 <-- complete list 06:59 < KillerX> Of these, I guess coreutils and squashfs-tools are most important 07:06 < CIA-12> rene * r26874 /trunk/package/network/collectd/collectd.desc: * updated collectd (4.2.0 -> 4.2.1) 07:31 < rxr> oh - distrowatch picked up the -rc2 without an announcement mail 07:31 < rxr> nice 07:48 < Ragnarin> ;D 07:48 < rxr> moin Ragnarin 07:48 < rxr> err g'evening :-) 07:48 < Ragnarin> good evening 08:25 [Users #t2] 08:25 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ LMJ_p ] [ Ragnarin] [ valentin] 08:25 [ CIA-12 ] [ dsoul] [ Key_Gena] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] [ yokoy_ ] 08:25 [ Codex ] [ emte ] [ KillerX ] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ] 08:25 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 08:48 -!- Negher [n=negher@217.12.176.10] has joined #T2 08:49 -!- Ragnarin is now known as Ragnar|away 09:15 < mtr> moin 09:17 < rxr> moin mtr 09:18 < mtr> there are still 7.0-rc cross build issues for me, is it OK to commit into 7.0-rc2, or should we follow a restricted commit policy now? 09:19 < mtr> like dbus-glib, there is patch which needs to be merged from trunk 09:20 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-69-208.bragatel.pt] has quit [] 09:31 < rxr> mtr: it's ok to commit into the branches/7.0 09:31 < rxr> but not into the 7.0-rc2 tag :-) 09:31 < rxr> I target a 7.0-final in 2 weeks 09:32 < rxr> feel free to merge safe stuff into the 7.0 branch and/or let me know about bugs 09:32 < rxr> Ragnar|away: btw. xfs performs quite good on the LVM 09:33 < rxr> still faster than reiserfs(3) after some continuous cross reference building of trunk with ccache 09:33 < rxr> that is some million files touched created wiped etc. 09:33 < rxr> JFS degraded way faster 09:33 < rxr> with a cold cache, two ongoing builds it is even as fast as: 09:34 < rxr> # time svn up 09:34 < rxr> real 0m4.466s 09:34 < rxr> user 0m0.176s 09:34 < rxr> sys 0m0.488s 09:34 < rxr> well - or better not exactly cold, just not really warm ... 09:35 * rxr still waiting for the reiserfs meassure 09:37 < rxr> real 2m11.913s 09:37 < rxr> user 0m0.424s 09:37 < rxr> sys 0m1.292s 09:37 < rxr> ^- equally mid warm/cold 09:37 < rxr> reiserfs second run: 09:37 < rxr> real 0m19.650s 09:37 < rxr> user 0m0.180s 09:37 < rxr> sys 0m0.368s 09:38 < rxr> (RAID5 of 3 decent SATA drives on a 8-core Xeon, ...) 09:42 < yokoy_> moin 09:43 < CIA-12> mtr * r26875 /branches/7.0/package/network/dbus-glib/ (dbus-glib.conf dbus-glib.desc non-native.patch.cross): * merged r25596 from trunk: fixed dbus-glib to cross build 09:56 -!- Negher [n=negher@217.12.176.10] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:17 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:26 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87.198.192.226] has joined #t2 10:26 < Baldzius> morning 10:27 < rxr> moin Baldzius 10:27 < Baldzius> hi rxr 10:28 < rxr> Baldzius: I was burned out enough from the endless non-x86 boot and run at all fixing that I decided to finally release -rc2 10:28 < rxr> the 3 (?) currently known security fixes can then go into the -final 10:28 < rxr> we hopefully can releae in approx. 14 days 10:28 < Baldzius> yeah i guess 10:28 < Baldzius> not a big issue 10:30 < Baldzius> rxr: could you look at this, util-linux is forked and verision we have currently seems to have security issues 10:30 < Baldzius> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux-ng/v2.13/v2.13-ReleaseNotes 10:30 < rxr> for of such trivial crap 10:30 < rxr> my oh my 10:30 < rxr> as if we would not have enough stuff todo ... 10:31 < Baldzius> yeah :) 10:31 < Baldzius> i jumped in to 7.0 train too late :) 10:32 < rxr> no problem, you do a amazing security job and there are not that many known security issues left to take care off :-) 10:32 < rxr> I added this util-linux link to my "7.0" "basket" 10:32 < rxr> btw. don't forget to digg our story: 10:33 < rxr> http://digg.com/linux_unix/T2_SDE_7_0_rc2_Autumn_Leaves_released 10:33 < Baldzius> yeah , that would be the last thing left i think 10:34 < Baldzius> also there's myql left but no workarounds available yet 10:35 < Baldzius> oh g* i need to register, crap, how i hate that :/ 10:35 < rxr> yeah - me too :-) 10:35 < rxr> thanks god they have a "password reminder button" .-) 10:36 < Baldzius> ql, i think i was registered previsouly 10:36 < rxr> ^- mtr -^ 10:37 -!- Negher [n=negher@217.12.176.10] has joined #T2 10:38 < Baldzius> done 10:41 < rxr> heh - now I got a powerpoint and word viewer in wine 10:41 < rxr> just for naturally speaking ... 10:41 < KillerX> dugg! 11:11 -!- sgraham [n=scott@S0106001310db1df1.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #t2 11:12 [Users #t2] 11:12 [@ChanServ] [ Codex] [ Fatal ] [ LMJ_p ] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX ] 11:12 [ Baldzius] [ Cyda ] [ Key_Gena] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 11:12 [ CIA-12 ] [ dsoul] [ KillerX ] [ Negher] [ sgraham ] [ yokoy_ ] 11:12 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 11:24 < CIA-12> rene * r26876 /trunk/package/x11/xscreensaver/xscreensaver.desc: * updated xscreensaver (5.03 -> 5.04) 11:27 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 11:47 -!- sgraham [n=scott@S0106001310db1df1.vc.shawcable.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 11:59 -!- KillerX [n=anant@gentoo/student/KillerX] has quit [] 12:04 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87.198.192.226] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:08 -!- Key_Gena [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-90842135133927ff] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:24 -!- Key_Gena [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-beb5aeaa9431be06] has joined #t2 13:15 < rxr> re 13:32 -!- Key_Gena [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-beb5aeaa9431be06] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:43 -!- Key_Gena [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-7341e09a27e69c0d] has joined #t2 14:22 < rxr> Aufgewärmt und sogleich datiert: Neues zu Apples Subnotebook 14:22 < rxr> http://macnews.de/news/104290.html 14:27 < rxr> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/11/12/ultra_portable_apple_notebook_to_splash_down_at_macworld_expo.html 14:50 -!- Negher [n=negher@217.12.176.10] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:55 -!- Negher [n=negher@217.12.176.10] has joined #T2 16:00 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@81.80.156.36] has joined #t2 16:03 < write_erase> hi rxr 16:25 < CIA-12> rene * r26878 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-ps3/ (. 64bit.patch xf86-video-ps3.cache xf86-video-ps3.desc): * added xf86-video-ps3 (2007-11-A11) - An accelerated X.org video driver for Sony's PlayStation 3 16:36 < rxr> A11 16:36 < rxr> damn 16:36 < rxr> I need sleep .. 16:56 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@81.80.156.36] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:10 -!- Negher [n=negher@217.12.176.10] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:33 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has joined #T2 17:45 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:45 -!- unleaded [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has joined #T2 17:51 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@81.80.156.36] has joined #t2 17:59 -!- Key_Gena [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-7341e09a27e69c0d] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:08 -!- KillerX [n=anant@gentoo/student/KillerX] has joined #t2 18:10 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC397.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 18:10 < tri> moin 18:10 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC397.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 18:11 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC397.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 18:12 < tri> are all package from 8.0 are also in 7.0-rc ? 18:14 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@81.80.156.36] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:15 -!- Key_Gena [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-40dc85127cce8a59] has joined #t2 18:20 -!- DigitalOktay [n=DigitalO@dslb-084-057-236-119.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 18:25 < tri> hm i have problems building parted - something about readline support _ 18:26 < DigitalOktay> Hi People 18:26 < DigitalOktay> Hallo Leute 18:27 < tri> hi DigitalOktay 18:28 < DigitalOktay> can anyone speak german here? 18:37 < unleaded> probably, but it might be better if they typed german? 18:41 < tri> ich spreche deutsch :-) 18:41 < tri> z.b. computer sind nur da um probleme zu loesen die man ohne sie nicht haette :-) 18:44 < DigitalOktay> hehe 18:45 < DigitalOktay> gut gut 18:45 < DigitalOktay> wie ich gesehen hab, ist T2 recht aktuell 18:47 < DigitalOktay> was für ein Paketsystem wird benutzt? 18:49 < tri> puh jetzt hoffentlich kann ich dir helfen... 18:49 < tri> also kein packet system 18:49 < tri> alles aus den sourcen 18:49 < tri> mit bash scripte 18:49 < tri> welche die desc dateien (und co) auswerten 18:49 < tri> siehe die paketmatrix auf der homepage 18:50 < tri> eine kleine aenderung an dem desc file und beim naechsten emerge-pkg hat man die aktuelle version so easy :-) 18:50 < tri> sehr cool ist auch das t2 handbook 18:52 < DigitalOktay> alles mit .sh ;) 18:53 < tri> und lua 18:53 < tri> und es laueft abhaengikeiten selber auf ohne das man das in die desc dateien schreiben muesste 18:53 < tri> :-) 18:53 < DigitalOktay> nicht wie Debian das man mal Abhaengigkeitsprobleme hat :D 18:56 < tri> hat ich bisher noch nicht 18:59 < tri> verwendest du schon t2 - wie kommst du auf t2 ? 19:00 < DigitalOktay> ich benutze Debian "Unstable", hat mir ein Kollege gesagt und so dann hab ich gegooglt bin ich dann auf eure T2 Seite mit den IRC-Channels gestoßen 19:00 < tri> ah cool - es gibt seit gestern die 7.0-rc2 19:00 < tri> kannst ja mal spielen :-) 19:01 < tri> fuer so kalte winter tage wie heute optimal... 19:02 < DigitalOktay> wie laeuft die Installation ab, geht sie automatisch oder muss ich sie einzeln kompilieren wie Gentoo 19:02 < DigitalOktay> :D 19:02 < tri> einzel kompilieren aber du kannst auf deinem jetzigen pc auch schon die pakete kompilieren 19:03 < DigitalOktay> hmm würde doch lange dauern :D 19:04 < tri> naja einen tag vielleicht aber der winter ist ja noch laenger 19:04 < tri> but this is a english channel we should talk in english ? 19:05 < DigitalOktay> ok but my english is not so good :) 19:07 < tri> my english is worse - but it is enough to talk about the weather :-) 19:08 < DigitalOktay> yes thats true 19:10 < rxr> re 19:10 < DigitalOktay> Hey my friend calls me, he has problem with his pc, i visit again, 19:11 < tri> cu 19:12 < DigitalOktay> cu channel ;) 19:12 < rxr> DigitalOktay: t2 kann direkt installations und Live CDs erstellen 19:12 < rxr> das binary-Release von heute ist ein vorkompiliertes minimal system 19:12 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@208.115.42.117] has joined #t2 19:12 < kic-> hola 19:12 < rxr> the -final will either be a installable desktop or live desktop 19:12 < tri> inkl. den binarys der wichtigsten anwendugen 19:13 < rxr> we build different flavours for the releases to have the different choices / options available pre-built on the servers 19:13 < tri> is there a plan to make binarys available through some t2 servers 19:13 < tri> application binarys 19:13 < tri> rxr: is the copy kernel source to /usr/src a new option ? 19:14 < tri> are all packages from the package matrix in the newest version in the 7.0-rc ? 19:15 < Ragnar|away> hi hi 19:15 -!- Ragnar|away is now known as Ragnarin 19:23 < rxr> re 19:33 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-69-178.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 19:34 < yokoy_> hi, 19:35 < yokoy_> could someone give me a hint please? 19:35 < yokoy_> i try to build a target with incl busybox 19:35 < kic-> sorry, what was the problem? 19:35 < yokoy_> :-) one moment 19:35 < yokoy_> in the target dir I put a file busybox.config 19:35 < kic-> anyone remember the command to check if your video card is set for direct rendering? 19:36 < kic-> like xvinf or something 19:36 < yokoy_> CONFIG_AR=n 19:36 < yokoy_> CONFIG_FEATURE_AR_LONG_FILENAMES=n 19:36 < yokoy_> CONFIG_FEATURE_UNARCHIVE_TAPE=n 19:36 < yokoy_> CONFIG_STRINGS=n 19:36 < yokoy_> but: 19:36 < yokoy_> !> Found shared files with other packages: 19:36 < yokoy_> !> usr/bin/ar: binutils busybox 19:36 < yokoy_> !> usr/bin/strings: binutils busybox 19:37 < yokoy_> oh, forgot to say, I clicked "make symlinks" 19:37 < kic-> hrm 19:37 < kic-> i think you may have to remove binutils 19:37 < kic-> from the pkgsel 19:38 < kic-> since busybox will provide those utils 19:38 < kic-> symlinked 19:38 < rxr> kic-: I think xdpyinfo reports rendering state 19:38 < kic-> rxr, thanke 19:38 < rxr> yokoy_: this happens when you build busybox with this CONFIG_BUSYBOX_SYMLINKS (or so) 19:39 < rxr> yokoy_: commonly we (in our in-house targets) d not set it and create the symlniks t busybox at the end of the build 19:39 < rxr> only those that are needed 19:39 < rxr> yokoy_: which target do you build ? 19:39 < kic-> hrm, nope, no mention of direct rendering 19:39 < yokoy_> rxr: my own target, honey/olpc 19:40 < yokoy_> x86 19:40 < rxr> ah - glxinfo 19:40 < rxr> $ glxinfo | grep -i render 19:40 < rxr> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x67 19:40 < rxr> direct rendering: Yes 19:40 < rxr> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20061017 19:40 < rxr> sorry 19:40 < kic-> ahh 19:40 < kic-> yhanks 19:40 < kic-> yay 19:40 < kic-> my card does have direct rendering 19:40 < kic-> now just have to fix the cannot initialise dbus error 19:40 < kic-> and i'm set 19:40 < kic-> i think 19:41 < rxr> for nvidia you need this nvidia binary blob (right now) - until the nouvou project driver is ready in some months or a year or so 19:41 < kic-> oh 19:41 < kic-> where do i get that? 19:41 < kic-> i did the nvidia driver update from the nvidia website 19:42 < rxr> kic-: you are in install? 19:43 < rxr> select the nvidia package and build that and the kernel (IIRC) (/me seldom has Nvidia chips around) 19:43 < kic-> which install? 19:43 < rxr> kic-: btw. since some days they now officially sell the iPhone in Germany - bundled with T-Mobile ... 19:43 < kic-> the nvidia install? or T2 build scripts 19:44 < rxr> kic-: T2 package: nidia 19:44 < rxr> kic-: I would use the t2 scripts 19:44 < kic-> rxr, good news on the iphone :D 19:44 < kic-> ok, i will try rebuilding kernel and nvidia within T2 and see what happens 19:44 < rxr> yeah - well I have a good one :-) 19:45 < kic-> i'm using the 8.0-trunk iso's i cut a while ago 19:45 < kic-> so maybe i get the latest 19:45 < kic-> oh, which already included nvidia package 19:45 < kic-> =( 19:46 < kic-> which didn't work so well for me, why i used nvidia's driver update from their website 19:46 < kic-> hrm 19:46 < kic-> ok, i tinker with it later 19:46 < kic-> desktop target -> 8.0-trunk 19:51 -!- Key_Gena [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-40dc85127cce8a59] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:02 -!- unleaded [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:04 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@208.115.42.117] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:12 < yokoy_> could the Build-Target script ignore the busybox build error (and only the busybox build error) and resume? 20:30 -!- KillerX [n=anant@gentoo/student/KillerX] has quit [] 20:58 -!- dsoul [i=darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:04 -!- Cyda [n=Cyda@c-76-109-161-41.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:09 -!- dsoul [i=darksoul@149.156.65.93] has joined #t2 21:16 -!- Cyda [n=Cyda@c-76-109-161-41.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #t2 21:25 -!- Key_Gena [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-fd227e5abd3d5775] has joined #t2 21:39 -!- LMJ_p [n=LMJ@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 21:45 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 21:46 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 21:50 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 21:54 < tri> yokoy_: yes 21:55 < tri> just move the busybox.err to busybox.log and restart build-target 21:55 < tri> ping rxr 21:59 < yokoy_> tri: thanks 22:08 -!- DigitalOktay1 [n=DigitalO@dslb-084-056-210-031.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 22:10 < tri> yokoy_: does this solve your problem ? 22:11 < tri> yokoy_: are you from berlin ? 22:18 -!- DigitalOktay [n=DigitalO@dslb-084-057-236-119.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:20 -!- DigitalOktay [n=DigitalO@dslb-084-056-217-084.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 22:29 < yokoy_> tri: the answer was to late, I made a Cleanup -build 22:29 < yokoy_> but I am sure, I will have the problem again :-) 22:29 < yokoy_> yes, I am from berlin 22:30 -!- DigitalOktay1 [n=DigitalO@dslb-084-056-210-031.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:30 < tri> i know sveng a bit he is a member in our lokal lug in augsburg - he was already a few times here at linux info dax 22:31 < tri> if you will have the problem again just do the mv ?.err to ?.log trick :-) 22:35 < yokoy_> tri: yes, I will do. 22:36 < yokoy_> :-) berlin? kenn ick och jemanden, kennste den och? 22:37 < yokoy_> sure, I know SvenG 22:47 < tri> if you see him, send him best wishes - i like to see 22:47 < tri> him this year at the augsburger linux info tag again :-) 22:50 < yokoy_> tri: done 22:52 < tri> :-) 22:58 -!- DigitalOktay [n=DigitalO@dslb-084-056-217-084.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:10 < tri> in which t2 package is dig ? 23:12 -!- mtr [n=michael@v29762.1blu.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:13 -!- mtr [n=michael@v29762.1blu.de] has joined #t2 23:18 < tri> gn8 23:18 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC397.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Leaving."] --- Log closed Wed Nov 14 00:00:19 2007