--- Log opened Sat Oct 06 00:00:38 2007 01:04 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@vaio.aixmarseille.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:44 -!- kic- [i=rfoote@208.115.42.120] has quit [] 03:39 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:39 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 07:10 -!- Enqlave|laptop [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 07:11 -!- cgetty [n=Clark@pool-71-108-239-203.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:43 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:43 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 08:16 -!- cgetty [n=elmo@pool-71-108-239-203.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #t2 08:53 < cgetty> Good evening all 08:53 < cgetty> I've been thinking. Looking at the Network Gateway Kit for $69, gonna try to get my hands on one to play with. 08:53 < cgetty> I found two links that I thought would be helpful for new ones (like me) playing with SBCs or what ever they are called. a wiki 08:53 < cgetty> http://www.avrfreaks.net/wiki/index.php/Documentation:NGW#Introduction_to_the_NGW 08:53 < cgetty> and a video http://www.avrtv.com/2007/06/29/avrtv-special-002/ 08:53 < cgetty> Hey An idea, have a small part in your magazine called something like beginners corner featuring things like these for new ones wanting to learn:-) 08:59 < cgetty> check out this one too http://www.avrtv.com/2007/07/02/avrtv-special-003/ 09:03 < cgetty> This demo ROCKS, I can even to something useful with this kit 09:09 < cgetty> Its supposed to say "I can even do somthing usful with this kit". Wish I could claim that english was my second language but it not :-( Good Night all :-) 09:10 -!- cgetty [n=elmo@pool-71-108-239-203.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:38 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-16-123-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #t2 10:04 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-16-123-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:44 < rxr> re 10:59 < CIA-8> rene * r26222 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-ati/xf86-video-ati.desc: * updated xf86-video-ati (6.7.194 -> 6.7.195) 11:01 < CIA-8> rene * r26223 /trunk/package/filesystem/ntfs-3g/ntfs-3g.desc: * updated ntfs-3g (1.913 -> 1.1004) 11:05 < CIA-8> rene * r26224 /trunk/package/emulators/yabause/ (. yabause.cache yabause.desc): * added yabause (0.9) - A Saturn emulator 11:06 -!- itsu [n=user@i59F5CDC1.versanet.de] has joined #t2 11:06 < itsu> good morning 2 ya all 11:07 < rxr> Ragnar|away: yes, -fPIE or so 11:07 < rxr> Ragnar|away: we already have an option for that 11:07 < rxr> Ragnar|away: it just injects -fPIE everywhere or so 11:07 < rxr> Ragnar|away: was lightly tested some year ago by me 11:07 < rxr> Ragnar|away: might require one fix here and there, please try .-) 11:08 < CIA-8> susan * r26225 /trunk/package/gnome2/glibmm/glibmm.desc: * updated glibmm (2.14.0 -> 2.14.1) 11:18 < CIA-8> susan * r26226 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkmm/gtkmm.desc: * updated gtkmm (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1) 11:20 < cyda> moin 11:21 < rxr> moin cyda 11:22 -!- tri [n=tri@p57AD90AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 11:22 < tri> moin 11:27 < CIA-8> susan * r26227 /trunk/package/gnome2/libsoup/libsoup.desc: * updated libsoup (2.2.100 -> 2.2.101) 11:28 < cyda> so about the magazine.... 11:28 < cyda> just finished my t2 router build with quagga 11:28 < cyda> will be writing a howto soon 11:28 < cyda> :-) 11:29 < rxr> cyda: nice! 11:29 -!- Key_Gena95 [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-b88c8c7ebf0997ac] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:29 < cyda> you know what howto we really need though.... 11:30 < cyda> updates on mas deployment servers 11:30 < cyda> mass* 11:30 < cyda> theres passing mention on it in the docs 11:30 < cyda> but detail would be nice 11:31 < CIA-8> rene * r26228 /trunk/package/base/suspend/MacBook2.patch: * added MacPro entry to suspend/s2ram whitelist 11:31 < rxr> ok - I'll add it to my todo 11:31 < rxr> we'll also soon have to hurry writing more parts of the book, as the publisher wants the final version, soon 11:31 < cyda> lol i didnt know we hada publisher 11:32 < rxr> for europe in the beginning (o'reilly didn't want it yet) 11:33 < rxr> but it will remain free and on the homepage as PDF all the time, as it is for example with the Subversion book as well 11:33 < rxr> but this process helped a lot and helps to greatly improve the free version as well 11:33 < rxr> e.g. writing all the chapters that otherwise would never have been written due lack or time or so 11:37 < cyda> has anyone played around with smack yet? 11:37 < rxr> not me 11:37 * rxr googling 11:37 < tri> what is smack 11:38 < cyda> http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/129792/ 11:38 < cyda> i saw linus ranting about it on kerneltrap 11:39 < cyda> they are having this big hoo-ha on smack vs selinux 11:40 < cyda> they actually have a 2.6.22 patch 11:42 < tri> hi rene anything planned for 29.03.08 ? 11:43 < rxr> Ragnar|away: ? 11:47 < rxr> sorry tri ? 11:47 < rxr> is there some event somewhere ? 11:47 < rxr> I have no calenter for 2008, yet 11:47 < rxr> maybe that is cebit time 11:47 < rxr> but aside other fixed stuff like cebit my schedule for 2008 is empty right now 11:47 < cyda> the world ends on 1-1-08 ;-p 11:47 < cyda> no need to make plans 11:48 < cyda> like the evangelicals, God talks to me too 11:48 < rxr> heh the world did end already at 1-1-00 or 1-1-01 or so - this already just is a dream :-) 11:48 < cyda> He said it was a secret but what the heck 11:48 < cyda> hahaha 11:48 < cyda> yeah and somone made billions then 11:49 < rxr> the guys who sold emergengy kits with food and weapons in the US :-) 11:49 < tri> http://linuxwiki.de/AugsburgerLinuxInfoTag2008 11:50 < rxr> .oO(the friends we had in augsburg just emmigrated to australia :-() 11:50 < CIA-8> rene * r26229 /trunk/package/network/libgift/libgift.desc: * updated libgift/gift-gnutella (0.0.10 -> 0.0.11) 11:51 < CIA-8> rene * r26230 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.5.3.2 -> 1.5.3.4) 11:52 < CIA-8> rene * r26231 /trunk/package/filesystem/ntfsprogs/ntfsprogs.desc: * updated ntfsprogs (1.13.1 -> 2.0.0) 11:52 < CIA-8> rene * r26232 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnokii/gnokii.desc: * updated gnokii (0.6.18 -> 0.6.19) 11:54 < tri> we have spleeping places for a few persons every year - just if you feel boring around 29.03.08 :-) 11:54 < CIA-8> rene * r26233 /trunk/package/network/nss_ldap/nss_ldap.desc: * updated nss_ldap (257 -> 257.2) 11:57 -!- itsu [n=user@i59F5CDC1.versanet.de] has left #t2 [] 12:02 [Users #t2] 12:02 [@ChanServ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin] 12:02 [ CIA-8 ] [ Enqlave ] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] 12:02 [ cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ] 12:02 [ Dallur ] [ happycube] [ pdinoto_ ] [ tri ] 12:02 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 12:42 < CIA-8> rene * r26234 /trunk/package/base/atop/ (atop.desc install.patch): 12:42 < CIA-8> * updated atop (1.20 -> 1.21), and fixed the package to use install 12:42 < CIA-8> to copy the program binary, as "the text file might be busy" 13:18 < CIA-8> rene * r26235 /trunk/target/desktop/pkgsel: * fixed exif related package selection in the desktop target 13:25 < CIA-8> rene * r26236 /trunk/target/desktop/pkgsel: * added atop to the desktop target 13:28 < CIA-8> rene * r26237 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-common.conf.m4: 13:28 < CIA-8> * try to enable HPET, HIGH_RES_TIMERS and NO_HZ config options by 13:28 < CIA-8> default (if available) and try to avoid CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT 13:29 < CIA-8> rene * r26238 /trunk/package/base/linux26/mactel.patch: * added Mac Pro sensor support to the applesmc in the linux26/mactel.patch 13:31 < rxr> of for dinner and such - cu soon 14:23 -!- Enqlave|laptop [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 14:23 -!- Enqlave|laptop [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:24 -!- Enqlave|laptop [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 15:07 -!- l3on [n=leonel@c934a156.virtua.com.br] has joined #t2 15:07 < rxr> re 15:07 [Users #t2] 15:07 [@ChanServ] [ emte ] [ happycube] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ] 15:07 [ CIA-8 ] [ Enqlave ] [ l3on ] [ pdinoto_ ] [ tri ] 15:07 [ cyda ] [ Enqlave|laptop] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin] 15:07 [ Dallur ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] 15:07 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 15:09 -!- l3on [n=leonel@c934a156.virtua.com.br] has quit [Client Quit] 15:19 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87.198.192.226] has joined #t2 15:19 < Baldzius> moin 15:22 < rxr> mon moin Baldzius 15:22 * rxr back in a little 15:23 < Baldzius> hi rxr 15:23 < rxr> Baldzius: what do you think about a vserver partition on our server? what that be ok? 15:23 < rxr> cu soon 15:24 < Baldzius> rxr: for me everything is ok what just works :) 15:24 < Baldzius> cu 15:25 < Baldzius> rxr: btw any chance to get xorg 1.4 soon ? 15:26 < Baldzius> have anoying bug with integrated Intel video, i hope it won't happen with 1.4 15:29 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:30 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 15:45 -!- Key_Gena95 [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-61bcaf7c9161cfc1] has joined #t2 16:41 -!- pachypodium [n=los@18.117.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #t2 16:42 < pachypodium> Hi there ! 16:43 -!- DeeKe1 [n=denis@213-219-64-81-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #t2 16:43 < pachypodium> I've spent most of my day googling there and there 16:43 < DeeKe1> hi all 16:43 < pachypodium> Hi Deekel 16:45 < pachypodium> Does anybody work with ada ? 16:45 < DeeKe1> nope 16:46 < DeeKe1> maybe you know about enomalism? 16:48 < pachypodium> enomalism ? 17:11 -!- pachypodium [n=los@18.117.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:22 < rxr> re 17:28 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z4212.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 17:29 < sepp> moin 17:29 < rxr> moin sepp 17:29 [Users #t2] 17:29 [@ChanServ] [ DeeKe1 ] [ happycube ] [ pdinoto_ ] [ tri ] 17:29 [ Baldzius] [ emte ] [ Key_Gena95] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin] 17:29 [ CIA-8 ] [ Enqlave ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] 17:29 [ cyda ] [ Enqlave|laptop] [ mqueiros_ ] [ sepp ] 17:29 [ Dallur ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ] 17:29 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 22 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal] 17:29 < sepp> hi rxr 17:50 < DeeKe1> he all! 17:50 < DeeKe1> * mean Hi :) 17:52 < sepp> hi DeeKe1 17:55 < rxr> hi DeeKe1 18:56 < CIA-8> rene * r26239 /trunk/package/base/linux26/disable-broken.lst: 18:56 < CIA-8> * blacklisted CONFIG_EVBUG for linux26, as it is auto-matched to load 18:56 < CIA-8> by our current u/dev setup and just annoyingly spams the syslog ... 18:59 < CIA-8> rene * r26240 /trunk/architecture/ (x86/kernel26-disable.lst x86-64/kernel26-disable.lst): 18:59 < CIA-8> * blacklisted CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA, for x86 and x86-64 (e.g. not for 18:59 < CIA-8> PowerPC or SPARC where it is vitial for console output) as it 18:59 < CIA-8> often brings up a very corrupted framebuffer on the latest, 18:59 < CIA-8> greatest cards 19:09 < rxr> valentin: heh, the new apple alu keyboards only activate capslock if is is pressed longer than a few ms 19:09 < rxr> valentin: that is when you just accidently glitch on it it is not activated ... :-) 19:09 < rxr> interesting feature ... 19:13 < emte> or someone put and extra cap in the circuit 19:13 < emte> an* 19:14 < emte> or the wrong capacitance 19:16 < rxr> I think it's an intersting feature 19:17 < rxr> caps lock annoys me more than it helps (when I e.g. type something with many capitals while eating a cockie or so ... :-) 19:24 -!- cgetty [n=Clark@pool-71-108-239-203.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #t2 19:28 < rxr> hey cgetty 19:28 [Users #t2] 19:28 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ] 19:28 [ Baldzius] [ DeeKe1 ] [ happycube ] [ pdinoto_ ] [ tri ] 19:28 [ cgetty ] [ emte ] [ Key_Gena95] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin] 19:28 [ CIA-8 ] [ Enqlave ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] 19:28 [ cyda ] [ Enqlave|laptop] [ mqueiros_ ] [ sepp ] 19:28 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 23 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 19:28 < cgetty> hi 20:05 < Ragnar|away> rxr? 20:05 -!- Ragnar|away is now known as Ragnarin 20:05 < Ragnarin> ah thanks 20:15 < rxr> yep 20:15 < rxr> hi 20:15 [Users #t2] 20:15 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ] 20:15 [ Baldzius] [ DeeKe1 ] [ happycube ] [ pdinoto_] [ tri ] 20:15 [ cgetty ] [ emte ] [ Key_Gena95] [ Ragnarin] [ valentin] 20:15 [ CIA-8 ] [ Enqlave ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] 20:15 [ cyda ] [ Enqlave|laptop] [ mqueiros_ ] [ sepp ] 20:15 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 23 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 20:15 < Ragnarin> hey hey 20:16 < Ragnarin> thanks thanks thanks for r26239 20:21 < rxr> your welcome 20:21 < rxr> should have done that 6 month ago 20:21 < rxr> I'm in some polishing mode as I finally want 7.0 out ... 20:22 < rxr> (those polishing will be merged into 7.0 20:22 < rxr> ) 20:26 < rxr> Ragnarin: this work will also include getting rid of all the annoying udev warnings ... 20:27 < Ragnarin> yay ;) 20:27 < rxr> yeah 20:28 < Ragnarin> oh another annoying thing ... the initrd fails to boot a rootfs on a scsi raid controller 20:28 < Ragnarin> tries to access the device before it's ready, which seems to block it from ever becoming ready 20:30 < rxr> ouh? 20:30 < Ragnarin> a sleep 10 before the mount fixes it 20:30 < rxr> strange 20:30 < Ragnarin> but wondering if there's a cleaner way 20:31 < rxr> the initrd already tries once a second 15 times already or so .. 20:31 < Ragnarin> yea but when the first time fails, every other try fails too 20:31 < Ragnarin> that's probably a driver bug 20:33 < rxr> what controler is that ? 20:33 < Ragnarin> 01:06.1 I2O: Adaptec (formerly DPT) SmartRAID V Controller (rev 02) 20:34 < Ragnarin> also with: 20:34 < Ragnarin> 05:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Areca Technology Corp. ARC-1220 8-Port PCI-Express to SATA RAID Controller 20:35 < rxr> oh - ok, but they are quite different, so maybe not some driver bug, but T2's initrd triggering some kernel interaction issue ... 20:35 < Ragnarin> quite possible 20:37 < rxr> I place it in my T2 basket (http://www.t2-project.org/packages/basket.html) 20:37 < Ragnarin> ok ;) 20:38 < rxr> but feel free to analyze it before I find the time :-) 20:38 < Ragnarin> btw I dunno if that got fixed, but the ide-generic module gets sometimes loaded before more specific ide modules, blocking those 20:39 < Ragnarin> would be nice to be able to load this module last, always 20:39 < rxr> it should be always loaded before, but I do not know (yet, did not look yet) why the specific modules can sometimes not take over ... 20:39 < rxr> hm - yeah - loading it last could probably solve that, indeed 20:39 < rxr> do you have a board where the current setup does not fail? 20:39 < rxr> as I never have seen this myself 20:39 < rxr> only read by newcomers here in the channel ... 20:40 < Ragnarin> does not? or does? 20:40 < rxr> does fail :-) 20:40 < Ragnarin> it fails with every newer core2 board I have here 20:41 < Ragnarin> (randomly) 20:41 < Ragnarin> usually it manifests in the cdrom drive working 20:41 < Ragnarin> not* 20:41 < rxr> hm, on our core 2 duo mac stuff it just works, interesting 20:42 < Ragnarin> maybe it uses a different ide chipset ... I dunno 20:42 < rxr> the intel one ... 20:43 < rxr> well - but the ide-generic load could indeed be moved at the end of the sequence ... 20:43 < Ragnarin> yea 20:43 < rxr> I have to go, now - hunting for some food as the shops now close at 21:00 in germany ... 20:43 < Ragnarin> okay ;) 20:44 < Ragnarin> have a good one, I just had breakfast here 20:44 < rxr> if you feel to check the generic-ide thing out 20:44 < rxr> but grep the whole tree for occurances the code is in variants in at least package/base/mkinitrd and target/share/livecd/init or so ... 20:44 < rxr> cu the 20:44 [Users #t2] 20:44 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ] 20:44 [ Baldzius] [ DeeKe1 ] [ happycube ] [ pdinoto_] [ tri ] 20:44 [ cgetty ] [ emte ] [ Key_Gena95] [ Ragnarin] [ valentin] 20:44 [ CIA-8 ] [ Enqlave ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] 20:44 [ cyda ] [ Enqlave|laptop] [ mqueiros_ ] [ sepp ] 20:44 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 23 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 20:45 < Ragnarin> cya 21:07 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87.198.192.226] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:06 -!- cgetty [n=Clark@pool-71-108-239-203.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:19 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:19 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 22:52 -!- Enqlave|laptop [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 23:03 -!- Enqlave|laptop [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 23:38 -!- Necrosan [n=necrosan@adsl-76-199-168-241.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #t2 23:38 < Necrosan> anyone seen splyxx/bizfish? --- Log closed Sun Oct 07 00:00:40 2007