--- Log opened Mon Sep 03 00:00:21 2007 00:10 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:11 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 00:25 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:25 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 01:06 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.126.176] has joined #t2 01:35 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z5004.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 01:36 < kic-> gonna be a late for me, doing this build on a single processor machine 01:36 < kic-> well, dual-core 01:36 < kic-> but its still slow 01:36 < sepp> moin :) 01:37 < kic-> is it mornin already? 01:37 < kic-> heh 01:37 < kic-> over there 01:37 < sepp> moin is more like a general 'hello' 01:37 < kic-> ah 01:37 < kic-> heh 02:40 -!- kensai_ [n=kensai@206.248.126.176] has joined #t2 02:48 -!- Ragnar|away is now known as Ragnarin 02:58 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.126.176] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:12 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z5004.z.pppool.de] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 03:15 -!- kensai_ [n=kensai@206.248.126.176] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:55 -!- netson99 [n=netson99@202.152.240.237] has joined #t2 05:23 -!- netson99 [n=netson99@202.152.240.237] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:32 -!- netson99 [n=netson99@202.152.240.244] has joined #t2 05:36 < kic-> am i the only one still awake here? 05:36 < kic-> heh 05:36 -!- netson99 [n=netson99@202.152.240.244] has quit [Client Quit] 05:37 < mqueiros_> no! 05:37 < kic-> ah 05:37 < kic-> heh 05:37 < mqueiros_> but I«m going to sleep now... :) 05:38 < kic-> heh 05:39 < mqueiros_> bye! 05:40 < kic-> bye 06:05 < kic-> wow 06:06 < kic-> do kde and gtk+ build for you guys on 8.0 trunk from clean svn co ? 06:58 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@adsl-144-22-136.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit ["bbl"] 07:49 -!- itsu [n=user@i577B873D.versanet.de] has joined #t2 08:15 -!- itsu [n=user@i577B873D.versanet.de] has left #t2 [] 09:02 < rxr> re 09:02 < rxr> kic_: yes, sure 09:19 < CIA-24> rene * r25861 /trunk/package/games/powermanga/ (powermanga.cache powermanga.desc): * updated powermanga (0.79 -> 0.90) 09:36 -!- netson99 [n=netson99@210.210.181.228] has joined #t2 09:40 < CIA-24> rene * r25862 /trunk/package/security/strongswan/strongswan.desc: * updated strongswan (4.1.5 -> 4.1.6) 09:41 < rxr> hm - I get the feeling there are new spam mails that a specifically crafted to confuse and inf. loop spamassassin 09:50 < mtr> moin 09:52 -!- Ragnarin is now known as Ragnar|away 10:06 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:06 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 10:56 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@81.80.156.36] has joined #t2 11:24 < rxr> re 11:24 < rxr> moin mtr 11:24 < mtr> hi rene 11:28 -!- itsu [n=user@i577B873D.versanet.de] has joined #t2 11:28 [Users #t2] 11:28 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ itsu ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] 11:28 [ CIA-24 ] [ emte__ ] [ kic_ ] [ netson99 ] [ TobiX ] 11:28 [ cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ LMJ ] [ pdinoto_ ] [ valentin ] 11:28 [ Dallur ] [ happycube] [ mqueiros_] [ Ragnar|away] [ write_erase] 11:28 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal] 11:28 < itsu> has anyone build ntop without problems 11:29 < itsu> i am having a bunch of dep errors esp. rrdtool 11:30 < rxr> builds fine here 11:33 < itsu> iam using a minimal-config with pkgsel X ntop 11:33 < itsu> maybe i have some corrupt deps ? 11:34 < itsu> how do i refresh them , without rebuilding to much ? 11:41 < rxr> X something does not select deps 11:41 < rxr> as many of them are optinoal anyway and the target builder is considered to know what he wants :-9 11:42 < itsu> did i miss something 11:42 < rxr> during target building T2 does nto try to perform dependency resolution 11:42 < rxr> as the people usually want specific packages anyway 11:42 < itsu> okay 11:43 < itsu> so how can i initiate package dependency ? 11:43 < itsu> scripts/Config -cfg xxx should do this right ? 11:43 < rxr> in the target ... pkgsel? add them on your own :-) 11:43 < itsu> okay did that 11:43 < rxr> not yet, we have more automatic depdency resolution for the target pkgsel on the todo 11:43 < itsu> ah ... 11:44 < rxr> but the problem is that most people are happy witht he explicit config that we have now 11:44 < rxr> and it's unclear how ot could be improved 11:44 < itsu> so i have to find out the deps on my own ? 11:44 < rxr> as most packages have zilion of optional deps ... 11:44 < rxr> well - you have the .cache file :-) 11:44 < itsu> that makes sense 11:44 < rxr> Emerge-Pkg would do dependency resolution 11:44 < itsu> but emerge-pkg installs on the running system 11:45 < itsu> not an option for embedded devices or routers or the like 11:45 < itsu> ;-) 11:46 < itsu> so ntop seems like a lesson to me 11:46 < itsu> ill dig into it 11:46 < itsu> can i contribute the deps anyhow ? 11:55 < itsu> sorry rxr 11:55 < itsu> posted some dep problems 11:55 < itsu> they are to be ignored considering our chat ;-) 11:56 < itsu> need still some learning on t2 11:56 < itsu> but it still rocks 11:56 * Fatal crosses fingers. coworkers tries to crosscompile a lot of crap now, hopefully they'll realize its futile and allow me the time to learn t2 11:57 < rxr> Fatal: go go go -) !!! 11:57 < rxr> itsu: you can copy the .cache deps into your pkgsel .. 11:58 < rxr> if you have some innovative idea ohw to do dynamic deps in the static pkgsel config let me know 11:58 < itsu> ieeek 11:58 < itsu> wheres the catch ? 11:59 < rxr> package/*/ntop/ntop.cache 11:59 < itsu> no i mean the dynamic dep resolution 11:59 < itsu> there is only one concept holding to dynamic deps : 12:00 < itsu> least common divisor .... 12:00 < itsu> i mean greatest common divisor of course 12:00 < itsu> that concept is used in many distros 12:01 < rxr> well - other distributions are often precompiled 12:01 < Fatal> sadly I don't get past glibc at the moment :) http://a7ad00643abb753b.paste.se/ 12:02 < rxr> so the deps are exactly what it was built with 12:02 < rxr> in t2 we would need to differentiate betwen must have and optional depdencies .. 12:02 < rxr> oh - you build for mips ? 12:03 < Fatal> aye 12:03 < rxr> maybe try to just deelte the patch and see if ti builds 12:03 < rxr> and let me know if it does 12:03 < rxr> the patch is probably just outdated for the updated trunk glibc 12:04 < Fatal> http://ff44712adf594026.paste.se/ hmm 12:05 < rxr> oh - mdan 12:05 < rxr> damn 12:05 < rxr> ah - yeah I remeber 12:05 < rxr> maybe use uclibc for now :-) 12:05 < rxr> or an older t2 trunk 12:05 < rxr> 6.0 should be fully function for mips 12:05 < rxr> I'll add it to my TODO to "fix" 12:05 < Fatal> how do I revert it? 12:05 < rxr> oh - or use eglibc, that should probably work for mips ... 12:06 < rxr> I'll soon start reference cross building all cross combinations on the new big 8-core machine 12:06 < Fatal> I'm not allowed to swich libcs just yet, so I kind of need it to work with glibc first 12:06 < rxr> we will have better data, statistic and weekly testing, then 12:06 < Fatal> but I could try 12:06 < Fatal> it's defined in the target? 12:06 < rxr> Fatal: use 6.0 that should built for mips 12:06 < rxr> the new glibc has no linuxthreads support, and no TLS/NPTL for mips, yet 12:06 < rxr> but that is not our fault but damn upstream glibc monks 12:07 < Fatal> after switching branch, do I need to svn up or something 12:07 < Fatal> nm, seems to be doing something 12:09 < Fatal> is 6.0 still maintained? 12:22 < rxr> yes 12:22 < CIA-24> mtr * r25863 /trunk/package/qt/qtcore/qtcore.conf: 12:22 < CIA-24> * change qtcore architecture selection to use SDECFG_ARCH, 12:22 < CIA-24> fixes build on x86, x86_64 and sh platforms 12:31 < rxr> hm - we have a massive spam problem on the server right now 12:31 < rxr> damnit 12:31 < rxr> load over 31 12:32 < CIA-24> rene * r25870 /trunk/package/network/bluez-libs/bluez-libs.desc: * updated bluez-libs (3.15 -> 3.18) 12:32 < CIA-24> rene * r25864 /trunk/package/textproc/iso-codes/iso-codes.desc: * updated iso-codes (1.3 -> 1.4) 12:33 < CIA-24> rene * r25872 /trunk/package/network/pv/pv.desc: * updated pv (1.0.1 -> 1.1.0) 12:33 < CIA-24> rene * r25871 /trunk/package/network/bluez-utils/bluez-utils.desc: * updated bluez-utils (3.15 -> 3.18) 12:34 < CIA-24> rene * r25869 /trunk/package/perl/perl-text-iconv/perl-text-iconv.desc: * updated perl-text-iconv (1.4 -> 1.5) 12:34 < CIA-24> rene * r25868 /trunk/package/gnome2/icon-naming-utils/icon-naming-utils.desc: * updated icon-naming-utils (0.8.5 -> 0.8.6) 12:34 < CIA-24> rene * r25867 /trunk/package/perl/perl-compress-raw/perl-compress-raw.desc: * updated perl-compress-raw (2.005 -> 2.006) 12:34 < CIA-24> rene * r25866 /trunk/package/perl/perl-compress-zlib/perl-compress-zlib.desc: * updated perl-compress-zlib (2.005 -> 2.006) 12:37 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-19-20-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #t2 12:41 < CIA-24> rene * r25865 /trunk/package/perl/perl-io-compress/perl-io-compress.desc: * updated perl-io-compress (2.005 -> 2.006) 12:50 < Fatal> rxr: after doing a switch, svn up will stay at that branch? 13:16 < rxr> yes 13:46 < Fatal> http://889b4114d0bdd362.paste.se/ hmm, wondering if there's leftover cruft in that dir, trying fresh on a seperate host, getting more and more weird error :) 14:22 < CIA-24> rene * r25874 /trunk/package/network/lftp/lftp.desc: * updated lftp (3.5.13 -> 3.5.14) 14:23 < CIA-24> rene * r25873 /trunk/package/mail/claws-mail/claws-mail.desc: * updated claws-mail (2.10.0 -> 3.0.0) 14:47 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z5004.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 14:47 < sepp> moin :) 15:00 < itsu> moinmoin 15:00 < itsu> ;-) 15:02 < rxr> moin sepp 15:04 < sepp> hi itsu, rxr :) 15:05 < itsu> oder auch mahlzeit :-) 15:05 < sepp> :) 15:18 < rxr> top 15:27 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:27 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 15:35 < sepp> ps 15:45 < rxr> oh - man that was a windows jerk ... 15:45 * rxr at the IFA ... 16:03 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@adsl-144-22-136.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #t2 16:03 < kic-> re 16:13 < kic-> this is supposed to be a holiday weekend 16:13 < kic-> labor day 16:13 < kic-> grr, heh 16:26 < rxr> re 16:26 < rxr> hi kic- 16:29 < kic-> heya 16:29 < kic-> you at the conference? 16:29 < Fatal> rxr: got the same error on different host/clean build, any ideas? 16:31 < rxr> kic-: IFA 16:31 < rxr> http://www.ifa-berlin.de 16:31 < kic-> yah 16:32 < kic-> cool 16:32 < kic-> yah, i saw that before, you mentioned you were gonna be there 16:57 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-19-20-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has left #t2 [] 16:57 < kic-> brb, gotta boot new kernel 16:57 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:58 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 16:58 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@adsl-144-22-136.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:17 < rxr> re 17:27 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@81.80.156.36] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:48 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@adsl-074-229-035-019.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #t2 17:48 < kic-> arg 17:48 < kic-> borked 17:50 < rxr> /n 17:50 [Users #t2] 17:50 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ itsu] [ mqueiros_] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin] 17:50 [ CIA-24 ] [ emte__ ] [ kic-] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] 17:50 [ cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ kic_] [ netson99 ] [ sepp ] 17:50 [ Dallur ] [ happycube] [ LMJ ] [ pdinoto_ ] [ TobiX ] 17:50 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal] 17:53 < kic-> i think i messed up my initrd 17:53 < kic-> since modutils failed 17:54 < LMJ> huuhuu 17:56 < rxr> valentin: the trunk on my MacBook starts to become rock solid .. 17:56 < rxr> also keyboard hacks and touchpad wise ... 17:58 < kic-> ok, another reboot, one more try 17:58 < kic-> brb 17:58 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@adsl-074-229-035-019.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:11 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@adsl-074-229-035-019.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #t2 18:11 < kic-> grr 18:11 < kic-> still no go 18:14 < kic-> !> usr/share/man/man2/create_module.2: man-pages modutils 18:14 < kic-> !> usr/share/man/man2/delete_module.2: man-pages modutils 18:14 < kic-> !> usr/share/man/man2/get_kernel_syms.2: man-pages modutils 18:14 < kic-> !> usr/share/man/man2/init_module.2: man-pages modutils 18:14 < kic-> !> usr/share/man/man2/query_module.2: man-pages modutils 18:14 < kic-> !> Due to previous errors. 18:15 < LMJ> I used to get the same error 18:18 < kic-> brb again 18:18 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@adsl-074-229-035-019.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:35 < pdinoto_> hi! 18:35 < pdinoto_> does anybody used a custom busybox.config file in its target? 19:21 < itsu> hey guys 19:21 < itsu> afaik i can install to a hd from the livecd. 19:21 < itsu> but how is this done :-) ? 19:58 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@adsl-074-229-035-019.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #t2 20:11 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:11 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 20:31 < itsu> hey guys 20:31 < itsu> i think the latest t2 kernel has some serious problem with ide hard drives 20:31 < itsu> i have tested 3 physical machines and all turn out to have the same problem 20:32 < itsu> the kernel cannot allocate ide0 because of some port already in use 20:32 < itsu> anyone the same problem ? 20:39 < Ragnar|away> it's loading ide_generic while it needs a specific chipset driver 20:39 < Ragnar|away> try to remove ide_generic and rerun mkinitrd 20:41 -!- Ragnar|away is now known as Ragnarin 20:49 < itsu> where do i remove ide_generic ? 20:51 < Ragnarin> try /lib/modules/2.6.25.5-dist/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-generic.ko 20:51 < Ragnarin> it' 20:51 < Ragnarin> it's enough to move it to something like .../ide-generic.ko-dontuse 20:52 < Ragnarin> then run mkinitrc 2.6.22.5-dist 20:52 < Ragnarin> mkinitrd 21:16 -!- emte_ [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has joined #t2 21:17 -!- emte__ [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:02 -!- emte_ [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:02 -!- emte__ [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has joined #t2 22:24 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC1E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 22:25 < tri> moin 22:25 < tri> i use runit and after booting the machine i get error messages 22:26 < tri> with /usr/sbin/klogd and /usr/sbin/sysklogd not found 22:26 < tri> this two binaris are in /usr/bin and not in /usr/sbin 22:27 < tri> i already have had this problem but somebody changed the default package files under packages in the runit package 22:27 < sepp> hi tri :) 22:27 < tri> hi sepp 22:28 < tri> any idea about the problem 22:29 < sepp> not right now 22:29 < tri> it is just a entry in the config file but i'm a bit confused that i think the problem was already fixed 22:30 < sepp> maybe set $sbindir ? 22:30 < tri> it is in trunk packages/runit/packages/syslogd-runit-klogd_run.txt 22:30 < tri> and syslogd-runit-syslogd-run.txt 22:31 < tri> where do i have to set $sbindir ? 22:33 < sepp> that was just a guess 22:33 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC1E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Leaving."] 22:34 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC1E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 22:34 < tri> re 22:34 < tri> sorry was offline for a few minutes 22:35 < sepp> rehi :) 22:37 < tri> hm sorry - finch is cool but alt+w is not a good idea :-) 22:38 < tri> hm not everything is ok 22:38 < tri> i just did emerge-pkg runit sysklogd -force 22:39 < tri> but i just did this new t2 installation cd with ./build-target bla and ./create-iso bla 22:39 < tri> isn't ./build-target updating all packages ? 22:40 < tri> or building the packages from zero ? 22:40 < tri> or how do i take care that i get a iso with up-to-date packages ? 22:40 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC1E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Leaving."] 22:40 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC1E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 22:41 < tri> f*ck alt+q 22:42 < sepp> finch ? 22:43 < tri> the pidgin but for console 22:44 < tri> yes i know it sucks but it is nice to have the same config for a console and a gui im-client ? 22:44 < tri> :-) 22:45 < sepp> ahh 22:45 < tri> how do you take care that if you do ./create-iso every package on the iso is up-to-date ? 22:45 < tri> or what is the "right way" 22:46 < tri> i thought it is ./build-target but my syslogd/klogd problem with runit is solved just with a ./emerge-pkg -force 22:46 < tri> and the iso where i have had the problem was just a build a few min. ago 22:46 < tri> so i think the runit sysklogd package on the iso was a old one 22:48 < tri> any tricks ? 22:56 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC1E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Leaving."] 23:06 -!- itsu [n=user@i577B873D.versanet.de] has left #t2 [] 23:42 -!- itsu [n=user@i577B873D.versanet.de] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Tue Sep 04 00:00:41 2007