T2 IRC Log: 2007-08-29

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--- Log opened Wed Aug 29 00:00:14 2007
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08:07 < CIA-24> susan * r25811 /trunk/package/develop/diffstat/diffstat.desc: * updated diffstat (1.43 -> 1.44)
08:07 < CIA-24> susan * r25812 /trunk/package/emulators/dosbox/dosbox.desc: * updated dosbox (0.71 -> 0.72)
08:31 < rxr> re
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11:44 < sepp> moin :)
11:54 < sepp> xemacs-beta has mole friendly menu fonts, any idea howto get them to a reasonable size, not 20 or so?
12:05 < rxr> re
12:05 < rxr> sepp: hm ?
12:05 < rxr> sepp: xemacs-beta menues are normally sized for me ...
12:05 < rxr> sepp: but, ok I have a 10 year old .xemacs config fluff .-)
12:06 < sepp> hmm
12:09 < sepp> i get massivly ugly fonts, but only in the menu, even as user without any old .(x)emacs files around
12:12 < sepp> maybe that is some athena crap, or whatever toolkit that is
12:21 < sepp> http://89.61.96.75/uglymacs.jpg ...
12:26 < rxr> heh - the Mac Pro survives a suspend to RAM under Linux ...
12:27 < rxr> CPU 7 is now offline
12:27 < rxr> SMP alternatives: switching to UP code
12:27 < rxr> CPU7 is down
12:27 < rxr> Extended CMOS year: 2000
12:27 < rxr> Back to C!
12:27 < rxr> Extended CMOS year: 2000
12:27 < rxr> ACPI Error (evgpe-0705): No handler or method for GPE[17], disabling event [20070126]
12:27 < rxr> Enabling non-boot CPUs ...
12:27 < rxr> SMP alternatives: switching to SMP code
12:27 < sepp> like all the time?
12:27 < rxr> that is a workstation
12:27 < rxr> not the *Book
12:27 < sepp> i know, the nice looking one
12:27 < rxr> I never saw aa 8-core workstaiton or server to suspend to RAM in Linux
12:28 < rxr> I have just tested it once for the fun of it
12:28 < rxr> (when I saw /sys/power/state listed mem :-)
12:28 < sepp> :)
12:28 < rxr> actually I did not expected it to wake up .-)
12:29 < rxr> the MacBook also resumes from suspend to RAM, but not 100% reliable
12:29 < rxr> the iBook 4 years ago was better ...
12:30 < rxr> with some older kernel (.21 or so) I had it near 99% reliable, as it was the xorg intel driver that f*cked it up sometimes
12:30 < rxr> I had to xrandr 2 times to the internal LCD and it worked 99% smoothly
12:30 < rxr> with current kernels it got a bit worse onthe MacBook ...
13:29 < rxr> sepp: oh - ok, my menues lok the same as on your screenshot
13:29 < rxr> I though you mean over ugly
13:30 < rxr> amd I disabled those tab (riders?) anyway ..
13:30 < rxr> sepp: which window manager si that ?
13:32 < sepp> ahhh, so that is normal
13:32 < sepp> e17 ...
13:37 < rxr> yes, probably to be configured
13:37 < rxr> but I do not liked the riders when they where introduced and disabled them for like 4years or so
13:37 < rxr> and the menu bar was not too ugly for me yet
13:37 < rxr> I find it more annoying that the selection of anti-alised text has off-by-one bugs
13:38 < rxr> and when you scroll with a selection it leaves 1 pixel horizontal garbage on the screen
13:38 < rxr> still readable, but annoying anyway
13:38 < rxr> even mailed them , but noone cared ....
13:39 < sepp> just the default xemacs without my chaotic config file
13:41 < sepp> but it is quite hard to google howto get the fat menu fonts reasonably small
13:42 < sepp> but i can use emacs from cvs, that has working anti-alised fonts ...
13:42 < sepp> gnumacs ...
14:27 < rxr> hm - what the heck is this about:
14:27 < rxr> ACPI: System BIOS is requesting _OSI(Linux)
14:27 < rxr> ACPI: Please test with "acpi_osi=!Linux"
14:27 < rxr> Please send dmidecode to linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
16:13 < sepp> :)
17:16 < rxr> applesmc: Apple MacPro2 detected:
17:16 < rxr> applesmc: - Model without accelerometer
17:16 < rxr> applesmc: - Model without light sensors and backlight
17:16 < rxr> applesmc: - Model with 12 temperature sensors
17:16 < rxr> applesmc: device successfully initialized.
17:16 < rxr> applesmc: 4 fans found.
17:16 < rxr> applesmc: More than 2 fans found, but at most 2 fans are supported by the driver.
17:16 < rxr> hacked a little in the applesmc driver for the MacPro2
17:16 < rxr> as right now under load the SMC appears to hard-power-off the box ...
17:16 < rxr> probably due to overheat protection or so ...
17:19 < rxr> applesmc: 4 fans found.
17:19 < rxr> applesmc: driver successfully loaded.
17:19 < rxr> so
17:24 < rxr> ok - fans work :-)
17:24 < rxr> now I just need to probe how many temp sensors there are for real ...
17:32 [Users #t2]
17:32 [@ChanServ] [ emte_ ] [ LMJ_p ] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin]
17:32 [ CIA-24 ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros__] [ rxr ] [ yokoy_ ]
17:32 [ cyda ] [ happycube] [ mtr ] [ sepp ]
17:32 [ Dallur ] [ kic- ] [ pdinoto_ ] [ TobiX ]
17:32 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
17:32 < rxr> oh - btw, noatime is not that good for T2 builds, if you use ccache
17:32 < rxr> as we can only cleanup the ccache if we have the "lased access time info"
17:34 < rxr> fan1_label:CPU_MEM
17:34 < rxr> fan1_output:1250
17:34 < rxr> fan2_label:IO
17:34 < rxr> fan2_output:1250
17:34 < rxr> fan3_label:EXHAUST
17:34 < rxr> fan3_output:1250
17:34 < rxr> fan4_label:PS
17:34 < rxr> fan4_output:1250
17:34 < rxr> ^- ok, with this manual (for now) tweaks the box is still alive ...
17:34 < rxr> at this load:
17:34 < rxr> top - 17:35:54 up 51 min, 2 users, load average: 9.15, 5.33, 2.38
17:35 < rxr> Cpu0 : 89.4%us, 5.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 5.3%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
17:35 < rxr> Cpu1 : 84.1%us, 8.6%sy, 0.0%ni, 6.0%id, 1.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st
17:35 < rxr> Cpu2 : 70.8%us, 17.9%sy, 0.0%ni, 10.6%id, 0.0%wa, 0.3%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st
17:35 < rxr> Cpu3 : 82.9%us, 8.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 9.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
17:35 < rxr> Cpu4 : 84.3%us, 11.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 4.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
17:35 < rxr> Cpu5 :100.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
17:35 < rxr> Cpu6 : 98.3%us, 1.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
17:35 < rxr> Cpu7 : 99.3%us, 0.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
17:35 < rxr> puh
17:36 < rxr> I get hopes to get this under control and I do not have to RMA the things -.)
17:37 < sepp> do you run 16 gcc's now?
17:38 < rxr> == 17:29:41 =[2]=> Building base/gcc [4.2.1 8.0-trunk].
17:38 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 37.29% (842 hits, 1416 misses)
17:38 < rxr> == 08/29/07 17:39:15 =[2]=> Finished building package gcc.
17:38 < rxr> PARALLEL_MAX is set to 8
17:39 < rxr> 8 cores
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17:57 < rxr> applesmc: Apple MacPro2 detected:
17:57 < rxr> applesmc: - Model without accelerometer
17:57 < rxr> applesmc: - Model without light sensors and backlight
17:57 < rxr> applesmc: - Model with 35 temperature sensors
17:57 < rxr> applesmc: device successfully initialized.
17:57 < rxr> applesmc: wait status failed: 5 != 0
17:57 < rxr> applesmc: Cannot get the number of fans.
17:57 < rxr> applesmc: More temperature sensors in temperature_sensors_sets (at least 12)than available sysfs files in temperature_attributes (11), please report this bug.
17:57 < rxr> I hate this damn doomed harcoded linux driver sysfs crap ...
17:57 * rxr fixing more ...
17:58 < rxr> and yes, this 35 sensors appears to be correct ... :-)
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18:01 < happycube> mac pro octo... drool.
18:04 < kic-> re
18:05 < rxr> happycube: ?
18:39 < pdinoto_> hi, folks!
18:40 < pdinoto_> rxr: are you building openmoko target lately? does it use uclibc, right?
18:44 < rxr> yes uclibc
18:45 < rxr> interestin in the Neo, or using it as a base for some other device ?
18:48 < Ragnar|away> hihi
18:48 < rxr> hi Ragnarin
18:48 < Ragnar|away> hey rene
18:50 < Ragnar|away> I got it working yesterday :)
18:51 < rxr> ehrm ah the USB stuff ?
18:51 < rxr> what was it ?
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18:55 < DeeKey> Hello!
18:56 < rxr> hi DeeKey
18:56 [Users #t2]
18:56 [@ChanServ] [ DeeKey ] [ kic- ] [ pdinoto_] [ TobiX ]
18:56 [ CIA-24 ] [ emte_ ] [ LMJ_p ] [ Ragnarin] [ valentin]
18:56 [ cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros__] [ rxr ] [ yokoy_ ]
18:56 [ Dallur ] [ happycube] [ mtr ] [ sepp ]
18:56 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal]
18:57 < LMJ_p> moin
18:58 < rxr> hi LMJ_p
18:59 < rxr> Die Wolke reloaded
18:59 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/tr/artikel/94939
19:06 < LMJ_p> brb
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19:21 < Ragnarin> rxr: had to checkout cvs libnjb
19:26 < rxr> ah
19:29 < rxr> so - applesmc patch sent out
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19:30 < tri_> moin
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19:43 < Ragnarin> rxr: should I change the t2 libnjb package to go to cvs?
19:45 < tri_> moin
19:52 < rxr> Ragnarin: it's just for some media player thing anyway ?
19:52 < rxr> hi tri_
19:52 [Users #t2]
19:52 [@ChanServ] [ DeeKey ] [ kic- ] [ pdinoto_] [ TobiX ]
19:52 [ CIA-24 ] [ emte_ ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ tri_ ]
19:52 [ cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros__] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
19:52 [ Dallur ] [ happycube] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ yokoy_ ]
19:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal]
19:52 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/dieing-8-core-xeon.png
19:53 < Ragnarin> it's for gnomad ... for transfering files to a creative nomad
19:53 < rxr> well - you are the only T2 user using it anyway ? :-)
19:53 < Ragnarin> no clue? lol
19:53 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/MacPro-Temp.tiff
19:54 < Ragnarin> 8core? nice :)
19:54 < rxr> yeah - just had to hack the applesmc linux driver so that the box does not hard sudden power off during load .-)
19:54 < Ragnarin> o_o LOL
19:54 < tri_> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/95031 he ?
19:55 < tri_> how many ram is in this 8-core-xeon machine ?
19:55 < rxr> 8G
19:55 < tri_> :-)
19:56 < rxr> yeah
19:56 < rxr> long time no new workstaiton thing in our office, was time for a change
19:56 < rxr> the athlon in the corner took a week for a trunk test build ...
19:57 < tri_> maybe you have to move him to the floor - he doesn't like to work at the corner ?
19:58 < rxr> I doubt it is a mental problem :-)
20:01 < tri_> http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2007/11639.html
20:02 < tri_> yeah plan hacking :-)
20:03 < tri_> hopefully they plug every ip device in this airplan into the same hub
20:05 < tri_> anybody have allready used koffice-2 ?
20:07 < DeeKey> nope
20:07 < DeeKey> I only use OOO
20:07 < DeeKey> and plan to migrate to latex...
20:07 < Ragnarin> good luck
20:17 < DeeKey> :)
20:25 < rxr> 8pm++ time for dinner
20:26 < rxr> cu all
20:26 < Ragnarin> cya :)
20:27 < CIA-24> rene * r25813 /trunk/package/network/hylafax/hylafax.desc: * updated hylafax (5.1.7 -> 5.1.8)
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20:56 < tri_> nice, a geek p0rn side http://peepcode.com/
21:02 < tri_> http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.html
21:20 < yokoy_> nabend
21:21 < yokoy_> tcp_wrappers do not (cross) build
21:21 < yokoy_> do we need tcp_wrappers for minimal?
21:25 < yokoy_> ranlib libwrap.a
21:25 < yokoy_> x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-gcc -O -DFACILITY=LOG_AUTHPRIV -DHOSTS_ACCESS -DGETPEERNAME_BUG -DBROKEN_FGETS -DLIBC_CALLS_STRTOK -DDAEMON_UMASK=022 -DREAL_DAEMON_DIR=\"/usr/sbin\" -DPROCESS_OPTIONS -DSEVERITY=LOG_INFO -DRFC931_TIMEOUT=10 -DHOSTS_DENY=\"/etc/hosts.deny\" -DHOSTS_ALLOW=\"/etc/hosts.allow\" -DSYS_ERRLIST_DEFINED -DBROKEN_SO_LINGER -DAPPEND_DOT -Dvsyslog=myvsyslog -o tcpd tcpd.o libwrap.a
21:25 < yokoy_> libwrap.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no index; run ranlib to add one
21:25 < yokoy_> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
21:25 < yokoy_> make[1]: *** [tcpd] Error 1
21:43 < tri_> if i try to build koffice2
21:44 < tri_> i get a error "make: Makefile.cvs: No such file or directory Stop."
21:44 < tri_> anybody knows how to solve this ?
21:52 < Ryuo> perhaps you need to run autoconf?
21:53 < Ryuo> or automake?
21:55 < tri_> hm i try to build it with the t2 build script
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