--- Log opened Mon Aug 13 00:00:20 2007 00:44 -!- wbx [n=wbx@static-87-79-68-60.netcologne.de] has quit ["leaving"] 00:57 -!- renderfull [n=nowhere@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 04:31 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@gprs-pool-1-016.eplus-online.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:46 -!- nowhere [n=nowhere@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #t2 05:57 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@c-69-180-101-40.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [] 06:32 -!- nowhere [n=nowhere@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:21 -!- pdinoto [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:22 -!- pdinoto [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 09:36 < rxr> re 09:44 < CIA-24> susan * r25556 /trunk/package/perl/perl-user-identity/perl-user-identity.desc: * updated perl-user-identity (0.91 -> 0.92) 09:44 < CIA-24> susan * r25557 /trunk/package/security/pcsc-tools/pcsc-tools.desc: * updated pcsc-tools (1.4.9 -> 1.4.10) 09:44 < CIA-24> susan * r25558 /trunk/package/network/bluez-libs/bluez-libs.desc: * updated bluez-libs (3.13 -> 3.14) 09:45 < CIA-24> susan * r25559 /trunk/package/x11/icewm/icewm.desc: * updated icewm (1.3.0 -> 1.3.1) 09:45 < CIA-24> susan * r25560 /trunk/package/network/bluez-utils/bluez-utils.desc: * updated bluez-utils (3.13 -> 3.14) 09:45 -!- Enqlave [i=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:45 < CIA-24> susan * r25561 /trunk/package/network/bluez-hcidump/bluez-hcidump.desc: * updated bluez-hcidump (1.39 -> 1.40) 09:46 < CIA-24> susan * r25562 /trunk/package/security/prelude-lml/prelude-lml.desc: * updated prelude-lml (0.9.10 -> 0.9.10.1) 09:47 < CIA-24> rene * r25563 /trunk/package/x11/xterm/xterm.desc: * updated xterm (228 -> 229) 09:49 -!- Enqlave [i=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 09:57 < CIA-24> susan * r25564 /trunk/package/develop/piklab/piklab.desc: * updated piklab (0.14.3 -> 0.14.4) 10:20 -!- Enqlave [i=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 10:21 -!- Enqlave [i=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 10:27 < CIA-24> susan * r25565 /trunk/package/gpe/teleport/ (. teleport.cache teleport.desc): * added teleport (0.34) - Move GTK applications between displays 10:31 < CIA-24> rene * r25566 /trunk/package/network/avahi/avahi.desc: * updated avahi (0.6.20 -> 0.6.21) 10:49 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e178086097.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 10:56 < CIA-24> susan * r25567 /trunk/package/gpe/xserver-common/ (. xserver-common.cache xserver-common.desc): * added xserver-common (1.16) - Common X11 scripts and support files 10:57 < CIA-24> susan * r25568 /trunk/package/gpe/xst/ (xst.cache xst.desc): * updated download tag and xst.cache 11:02 < CIA-24> susan * r25569 /trunk/package/gpe/repton/ (repton.cache repton.desc): * updated download tag and repton.cache 11:03 < CIA-24> susan * r25570 /trunk/package/gpe/scap/ (scap.cache scap.desc): * updated download tag and scap.cache 11:06 < CIA-24> susan * r25571 /trunk/package/gpe/xdemineur/ (xdemineur.cache xdemineur.desc): * updated download tag and xdemineur.cache 11:08 < CIA-24> rene * r25572 /trunk/package/base/strace/arch-arm.patch: * fixed strace for ARM (at least for uclibc builds) 11:22 < CIA-24> susan * r25573 /trunk/package/gpe/gpe-scap/ (. gpe-scap.cache gpe-scap.desc): * added gpe-scap (1.3) - GPE screenshot application 11:33 < CIA-24> rene * r25574 /trunk/package/base/strace/ (3 files): 11:33 < CIA-24> * updated strace (4.5.15 -> 4.5.16), includes pulling in the AVR32 11:33 < CIA-24> patches (formerly downloaded) and rediffed them for 4.5.16, 11:33 < CIA-24> configure mostly anyway, ...) 11:35 < CIA-24> rene * r25575 /trunk/package/x11/xstroke/ (. xstroke.cache xstroke.desc): * added xstroke (0.6) - A fullscreen gesture recognition program for X Windows 11:39 < CIA-24> susan * r25576 /trunk/package/gpe/gpe-synctool/ (. gpe-synctool.cache gpe-synctool.desc): * added gpe-synctool (0.2) - Sync daemon for GPE and OpenSync 11:46 < CIA-24> susan * r25577 /trunk/package/gpe/gpesyncd/ (. gpesyncd.cache gpesyncd.desc): * added gpesyncd (2.0) - A tool to import and export vevents, vcards and vtodos 11:51 < rxr> heh: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070812 11:53 < CIA-24> susan * r25578 /trunk/package/gpe/libhandoff/ (. libhandoff.cache libhandoff.desc): * added libhandoff (0.1) - Library for GPE calendar 12:00 < CIA-24> susan * r25579 /trunk/package/gpe/starling/ (. starling.cache starling.desc): * added starling (0.2) - Audio player for GPE 12:07 < CIA-24> rene * r25580 /trunk/package/qt/qtcore/qtcore.conf: 12:07 < CIA-24> * fixed qtcore architecture selection, generalized big vs. little 12:07 < CIA-24> endian selection, and added ARM compiler name fixup 12:19 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@host42.190-136-224.telecom.net.ar] has joined #t2 12:34 -!- yokoy_ [n=yokoy@e178086097.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 12:34 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e178086097.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:36 -!- pdinoto__ [n=pdinoto@host167.190-137-8.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:49 -!- yokoy_ is now known as yokoy 12:49 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e178086097.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 12:49 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e178086097.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 13:28 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@host42.190-136-224.telecom.net.ar] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 14:25 < rxr> huhe: 14:25 < rxr> 14:24 -!- Cannot join to channel #openmoko-devel (Bad channel key) 14:25 < rxr> 14:25 -!- Cannot join to channel #openmoko-core (Bad channel key) 14:25 < rxr> now that is "open"ess 14:28 < mqueiros_> couldn't be more open... 14:30 < rxr> I didn't even know IRC supports such things ... 14:32 < pdinoto> hi, 14:32 < pdinoto> when i create a target that is for install, 14:33 < pdinoto> i get an .iso with two .tar files that are the installer> 14:33 < pdinoto> 2nd_stage.tar and 2nd_stage_small.tar 14:36 < pdinoto> they provide a basic 'stone' to start working, 14:36 < pdinoto> but where does stone get the install image to put on hd? 14:52 -!- rxr [n=rene@port-212-202-170-151.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2 14:52 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org 14:52 -!- Topic set by H4X [] [Tue Jun 26 17:57:25 2007] 14:52 [Users #t2] 14:52 [@ChanServ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin_] 14:52 [ CIA-24 ] [ LMJ ] [ pdinoto ] [ rxr2 ] [ yokoy ] 14:52 [ Enqlave ] [ mqueiros_] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX] 14:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 14:52 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Nov 26 07:44:08 2006 14:52 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 14:52 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 12 secs 14:55 < rxr> re 14:55 -!- rxr2 [n=rene@port-83-236-211-226.static.qsc.de] has quit ["leaving"] 14:56 -!- valentin_ is now known as valentin 14:59 < rxr> I guess a good sign to order the rootserver ... 15:44 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-141.bragatel.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 15:47 < rxr> valentin: http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/media/C++0x - An Overview.html 15:50 -!- kic- [i=rfoote@208.115.42.100] has joined #t2 15:50 < kic-> aww 15:51 < kic-> welp, i tested the perl binaries rene 15:51 < kic-> heh 15:51 < valentin> rxr: something in there, that was not in the ix article yet ? 15:58 < rxr> no idea, don't kno the iX article 15:58 < rxr> kic-: ? 15:58 < rxr> tested to work ? 16:00 < kic-> nope, didn't work 16:00 < kic-> heh 16:00 < rxr> ouhm 16:00 < kic-> says 'Illegal operation' 16:00 < rxr> what failure ? 16:00 < kic-> or something like that 16:00 < rxr> Illegal Instruction ? 16:00 < kic-> ahh 16:00 < kic-> yes 16:00 < kic-> that one 16:01 < rxr> hm - maybe overoptimized 16:01 < rxr> hoped I selected a cpu model mostly matching the IXP 16:01 < kic-> hrm 16:01 < kic-> maybe no cpu optimizations would help? 16:02 < kic-> i thought the IXP425 was an Xscale cpu 16:02 < rxr> to few optimization can also result in instructions the dedicated ARM core does not like 16:02 < rxr> just had that on the Neo phone ... 16:02 < kic-> oh 16:02 < rxr> dosn't like as in == doesn't implement (anymore) 16:03 < rxr> what was your exact core ? 16:03 < rxr> 425 ? 16:04 < kic-> yes 16:05 < rxr> cat you paste the /proc/cpuinfo somewhre e? 16:05 < rxr> (e.g. here) 16:07 < kic-> hrm 16:07 < kic-> perhaps i can 16:07 < kic-> just a sec 16:09 < kic-> msg 16:09 < kic-> or here in channel 16:09 < kic-> ? 16:10 < kic-> 24 lines 16:11 < kic-> i'll DCC the .txt file to you 16:11 < kic-> cause i have to go back in to safwat's office 16:14 < rxr> you do not have gdb on the board :-) 16:24 < kic-> i dunno 16:24 < kic-> guess not? 16:24 < kic-> HEH 16:24 < kic-> does that make a difference? 16:25 < rxr> just to find out what instruction it is exactly ... 16:25 < rxr> I rebuild the flavour here with aa sightly modified set up gcc options 16:25 < rxr> let's hope it works better 16:26 < kic-> w00t 16:26 < kic-> if you can get this working, you will be teh saviour 16:26 < kic-> i'm already looking at perl coder resumes 16:26 < kic-> heh 17:00 -!- Dallur [n=earl@194-144-10-228.du.xdsl.is] has joined #t2 17:08 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/miniperl2 17:08 < rxr> ^- better ? 17:08 < rxr> Insert: -march=armv5t 17:08 < rxr> Insert: -mtune=xscale 17:08 < rxr> Insert: -msoft-float 17:08 < rxr> Insert: -mbig-endian 17:13 < kic-> hrm 17:13 < kic-> lemme try 17:13 < kic-> :D 17:16 < kic-> damn 17:17 < kic-> illegal instruction 17:17 < rxr> hm 17:18 < rxr> do you want to send me such a thing or should I get a Linksys NSLU2 that apparently has the same CPU from Amazon ? 17:19 < kic-> send me a link to the amazon thing? 17:19 < kic-> i'll take a look and see how close it matches 17:19 < rxr> Linksys NSLU2-DE NETWORK STORAGE LINK 17:19 < rxr> IXP 425 17:19 < rxr> that thing is not a buity, though 17:20 < rxr> seldom saw such an un-pretty box ... :-( 17:20 < rxr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2 17:21 < rxr> just might be cheaper / faster to get here 17:21 < rxr> depending on how urgent & Co you need an alternative binary source for yours ... 17:22 < kic-> hrm 17:23 < kic-> hrm 17:23 < kic-> might be better for me to fed-ex you a box 17:23 < kic-> if i send you one, how confident are you that you can get a working binary for it? 17:23 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-141.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 17:24 < rxr> kic-: the matter is just isolatinog what instruction that is and building the binaries with the correct switches 17:24 < rxr> kic-: on the Neo that just took some hour++ 17:24 < rxr> (though I only had to hunt that on hour becasue I mistype the inial optimization setting, yeek) 17:25 < rxr> but for the armeb I do not see what should be wrong in this: 17:25 < rxr> Insert: -Os 17:25 < rxr> Insert: -march=armv5t 17:25 < rxr> Insert: -mtune=xscale 17:25 < rxr> Insert: -msoft-float 17:25 < rxr> Insert: -mbig-endian 17:25 < rxr> apparently that is what some openslug thing for this Linksys box lists 17:32 < kic-> hrm 17:33 < kic-> you didn't have the -Os 17:33 < kic-> in the above list 17:33 < kic-> [11:08am] ^- better ? 17:33 < kic-> [11:08am] Insert: -march=armv5t 17:33 < kic-> [11:08am] Insert: -mtune=xscale 17:33 < kic-> [11:08am] Insert: -msoft-float 17:33 < kic-> [11:08am] Insert: -mbig-endian 17:33 < kic-> [11:12am] hrm 17:33 < kic-> would that make a difference? 17:34 < rxr> no, just Optimize for size 17:34 < rxr> (unless there is a compiler bug) 17:35 < kic-> heh 19:27 < mqueiros_> What do you guys use to try your .isos ? I'v been using Qemu... 19:52 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-141.bragatel.pt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:53 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-141.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 20:10 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z74ce.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 20:10 < sepp> moin :) 20:23 -!- renderfull [n=codey@67.104.10.162] has joined #t2 20:47 < kic-> rene 20:47 < kic-> i think there is a problem with rsync 20:47 < kic-> if you look under 7.0/x/ 20:47 < kic-> and do an 'ls' 20:48 < kic-> you'll see what i mean 20:48 < kic-> root@localhost:/var/opt/apache/lib/htdocs/t2/7.0/x# l 20:48 < kic-> total 132K 20:48 < kic-> drwxr-xr-x 33 rene rene 4096 2007-08-11 13:19 . 20:48 < kic-> drwxr-xr-x 58 rene rene 4096 2007-08-13 12:28 .. 20:48 < kic-> drwxr-xr-x 3 rene rene 4096 2006-06-17 17:36 xf86-video-apm-1.0.1.5.tar.bz2http: 20:48 < kic-> drwxr-xr-x 3 rene rene 4096 2006-06-17 17:36 xf86-video-ark-0.5.0.5.tar.bz2http: 21:34 -!- cyda [n=cyrusm@208.115.42.5] has joined #t2 22:11 -!- tri [n=tri@87.173.198.150] has joined #t2 22:11 < yokoy> nabend 22:11 < tri> moinmoin 22:12 < yokoy> can you confirm that compiling on a fast machine is slower by using ccache? 22:29 < kic-> not really 22:29 < kic-> my quadcore machine compiles hella fast with ccache 22:34 < tri> maybe your ccache folder is one a slow drive ? 22:53 -!- tri [n=tri@87.173.198.150] has left #t2 [] 23:25 < kic-> who here was saying they wanted an alternate USA mirror to use instead of that Florida - US - www.ucc.fr? 23:44 -!- cyda [n=cyrusm@208.115.42.5] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:58 -!- wbx [n=wbx@static-87-79-68-60.netcologne.de] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Tue Aug 14 00:00:21 2007