--- Log opened Mon Jun 04 00:00:04 2007 01:17 -!- babygor [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has left #t2 ["Konversation terminated!"] 01:24 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.19.226] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007031001]"] 01:39 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@kobz-590cadf4.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 01:53 -!- mtr [n=Michael@kobz-590cb7d5.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:53 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 02:05 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.19.226] has joined #t2 02:16 -!- pdinoto [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 02:33 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.19.226] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:14 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.19.226] has joined #t2 05:08 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.35.198] has joined #t2 05:25 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.19.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:09 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.35.198] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:54 -!- shadeheim [n=joe@82-42-81-120.cable.ubr02.live.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #t2 09:42 < mtr> moin 10:18 -!- shadeheim [n=joe@82-42-81-120.cable.ubr02.live.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:36 < rxr> moin 10:42 < mtr> hi rxr 11:05 -!- jalsot_ [n=tamas@abacus.eworldcom.hu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:08 -!- jalsot [n=tamas@abacus.eworldcom.hu] has joined #t2 11:08 < jalsot> hi 12:37 -!- shadeheim [n=joe@82-42-81-120.cable.ubr02.live.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #t2 12:37 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@81.80.156.36] has joined #t2 12:38 < write_erase> Hi 12:43 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 12:45 [Users #t2] 12:45 [@ChanServ] [ jalsot] [ pdinoto ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ write_erase] 12:45 [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ pdinoto_] [ sepp ] [ TobiX ] 12:45 [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ Ragnarin] [ shadeheim] [ valentin] 12:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 12:56 -!- pdinoto [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 13:57 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@BADb3c2.bad.pppool.de] has joined #t2 14:11 -!- sepp [n=sepp@BADb784.bad.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:42 -!- tri [n=Richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 14:45 < tri> moin 14:52 < mtr> hi tri 14:59 < tri> who have time and notion to help me with making the ati driver available for t2 ? 15:00 < tri> rxr: ping 15:01 < tri> rxr: can you upload the new 7.0 iso again and split them into two iso's - i don't have any blank CD bigger then 700mb :-) 15:08 -!- Enqlave [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has joined #t2 15:13 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:02 -!- tri [n=Richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 16:32 -!- Enqlave is now known as Stelz 16:37 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@81.80.156.36] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:05 -!- andr01d [n=root@bzq-219-167-68.static.bezeqint.net] has joined #t2 17:05 < andr01d> Hello people 17:11 < andr01d> If any of you here is not away - I'd like to ask you for help with T2... 17:18 < mtr> hi andr01d, please ask and post your questions, any feedback welcome ;-) 17:19 < andr01d> hey mtr 17:20 < andr01d> i'm cross compiling t2 on a Debian etch host 17:20 < andr01d> for some reason i get the dreaded "cannot find crt1.o" error one the second compilation pass 17:21 < andr01d> I've been digging Google since this morning & all solutions are talking about installing libc6-dev, which was installed before i've started the building 17:22 < andr01d> is there a solution to this? 17:22 < andr01d> i did manage to make it work by symlinking the file from /usr/lib to the location where config script was looking for it - but i'm not sure about how it will affect the build... 17:23 < mtr> what platform are you cross compiling for, and what target did you select? 17:23 < andr01d> embedded 17:23 < andr01d> the platform is pentium-m 17:23 < mtr> t2-7.0-rc1 ? 17:23 < andr01d> oh, another important thing - i'm using t2-6.0.0 17:26 < mtr> I am not sure about 6.0.0 embedded target support, afair it did not work that well ... 17:26 < mtr> there have been a lot of improvement in the last months on the embedded stuff 17:26 < andr01d> oh... so going 7.0-rc1 might be the solution for me? 17:27 < mtr> yes, you should give it a try 17:28 < mtr> you're target cpu is pentium-m ? 17:28 < andr01d> checking out 7.0-rc right this moment 17:28 < andr01d> yeah, it's a Celeron M to be exact 17:29 < andr01d> an SBC fanless platform w/ CelM 900 17:29 < andr01d> are you related to the dev team? 17:30 < mtr> yes, I am mostly building embedded targets with T2 17:30 < andr01d> if/when I succeed I'd like to post a tutorial of building embedded targets on Debian 17:31 < andr01d> so people will experience less pain of all the tiny catches that I've experienced :) 17:34 < andr01d> btw, when is 7.0 planned to go stable? (i'm pretty new to T2, so I don't know about how your release cycles work) 17:37 < mtr> 7.0 is scheduled for this summer, we had 6.0 a year ago 17:37 < andr01d> oh... great pace! 17:38 < andr01d> world needs tools like T2... easy, no-fuss & extremely potent 17:39 < andr01d> hope i'll be able to make it run on the SBC... maybe i'll manage to somehow give back to the community during the proccess too 17:41 < andr01d> LUA accelerator... hmm... that's something new that had'nt been there at 6.0.0 17:42 < andr01d> do you have any 7.0.0 Config recommendations? 17:48 < mtr> if you have to cross compile you should start with the Generic Embedded target, otherwise Generic System with a minimal package preselection 17:49 < andr01d> yeah, that's exactly the strategy I'm using... 17:50 < mtr> I have ccache enabled, that makes rebuilding the target really fast 17:50 < andr01d> How do I add packages to the target after I've managed to cross-compile the base target? 17:50 < andr01d> where do I enable ccache? 17:51 < andr01d> oh, getting it installed, was not aware of it's existance :-O 17:52 < andr01d> do I need to change something in Config menues to make T2 use it? 17:53 < sepp_> you need to enable the ccache package and then you get an option - under export options i think 17:53 < sepp_> expert* 17:55 < mtr> oh well, the Generic Embedded does not have ccache enabled, therefore the option is not shown 17:55 < andr01d> oh... 17:55 < andr01d> will export CC="ccache gcc" work? 17:57 < sepp_> enable it and set the option ;) 17:57 < andr01d> is there any reason to build the JAVA compiler if I do not plan to use Java? 17:57 < sepp_> no 17:58 < mtr> the SDE automatically handles all the environment settings for ccache, setting it manually does not work 17:58 < andr01d> seen Java bring down multi-CPU 32GB+ RAM machines down to their knees... certainly don't want it to get it's way with my celeron 900! :) 17:58 < andr01d> *java applications 18:00 < andr01d> well, thanks for your help, guys (gals?)! 18:00 < andr01d> something tells me we'll meet here again ;) 18:01 < andr01d> have a great day (night?) 18:01 < sepp_> cu :) 18:01 < mtr> cu - feel free to post your experiences and success stories ;-) 18:03 < andr01d> haha :) definetly will... I'm determined to write the "T2 cross compilation under Debian4.0 - The full guide" ;) 18:03 < andr01d> good bye, again 18:03 -!- andr01d [n=root@bzq-219-167-68.static.bezeqint.net] has left #t2 [] 18:11 -!- deminemi_ [n=deminemi@71-37-215-42.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #t2 18:17 -!- tri [n=ubuntu@p57ADCC61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 18:17 < tri> hi 18:20 < sepp_> hi tri 18:21 < mtr> hi tri 18:42 -!- shadeheim1 [n=joe@82-42-81-120.cable.ubr02.live.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #t2 18:50 -!- tri [n=ubuntu@p57ADCC61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 18:57 -!- shadeheim [n=joe@82-42-81-120.cable.ubr02.live.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:59 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:00 < misl> hi folks 19:10 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADCC61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 21:25 < CIA-9> ragnar * r24354 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * fix download location 21:59 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.35.198] has joined #t2 22:04 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADCC61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 22:42 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]"] --- Log closed Tue Jun 05 00:00:05 2007