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10:32 < sepp> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30052
10:33 < rxr> moin
10:33 < sepp> moin rxr :)
10:33 < rxr> yes, I reported it here as well
10:34 < rxr> xorg-server in t2/trunk now needs very much memory to build, around 1G
10:34 < sepp> ohh, have not seen it ...
10:34 < rxr> that is swap is sufficient to get it build
10:34 < sepp> yesterday it ate my x86_64
10:36 < Stelz> moin rxr, sepp :)
10:36 < sepp> hi Stelz :)
10:37 < rxr> konqueror spinning 200 instances of econvert to rotate jpegs ate mine ...
10:37 < rxr> hi Stelz 
10:38 [Users #t2]
10:38 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur] [ misl  ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz   ] 
10:38 [ babygor ] [ idealm] [ mtr   ] [ rxr     ] [ TobiX   ] 
10:38 [ CIA-9   ] [ LMJ   ] [ netist] [ sepp    ] [ valentin] 
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10:39 < sepp> well, with 2 jobs and 2gb ram + 1gb swap it was running for >1h compiling xf86ScanPci.c before it killed it - on my x2 ...
10:41 < CIA-9> rene * r24140 /trunk/package/multimedia/qdvdauthor/qdvdauthor.desc: * updated qdvdauthor (0.1.5 -> 1.0.0)
10:43 < CIA-9> rene * r24141 /trunk/package/x11/nao/ (. nao.cache nao.desc): * added nao (0.4.1) - A powerful, flexible, and utterly configurable file manager
10:44 < CIA-9> rene * r24142 /trunk/package/filesystem/sshfs/sshfs.desc: * updated sshfs (1.6 -> 1.8)
10:44 < CIA-9> rene * r24143 /trunk/package/database/opendbx/opendbx.desc: * updated opendbx (1.2.2 -> 1.2.3)
10:44 < CIA-9> rene * r24144 /trunk/package/develop/libtomcrypt/libtomcrypt.desc: * updated libtomcrypt (1.16 -> 1.17)
10:45 < CIA-9> rene * r24145 /trunk/package/fonts/dejavu-ttf-fonts/dejavu-ttf-fonts.desc: * updated dejavu-ttf-fonts (2.16 -> 2.17)
10:45 < CIA-9> rene * r24146 /trunk/package/network/tcpreplay/ (. tcpreplay.cache tcpreplay.desc): * added tcpreplay (3.0.1) - A tool which edits and replays captured network traffic back onto the wire
10:46 < CIA-9> rene * r24147 /trunk/package/network/silc-client/silc-client.desc: * updated silc-client (1.0.1 -> 1.0.4.1)
10:51 < rxr> Linux: German Linux Community Boycotting LinuxTag
10:51 < rxr> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/05/19/2149231.shtml
10:52 < sepp> lol
10:53 < sepp> that is the right thing to do, instead of protesting against him directly
10:58 < CIA-9> rene * r24148 /trunk/package/archiver/alien/alien.desc: * updated alien (8.66 -> 8.67)
10:59 < CIA-9> rene * r24149 /trunk/package/develop/avrdude/avrdude.desc: * updated avrdude (5.3.1 -> 5.4)
11:04 < rxr> sepp: you had no success with the blender update ?
11:05 < sepp> running build-target ... dont have py2.5 installed locally
11:05 < sepp> i will know later
11:07 < sepp> was too lazy to mess around with python, i rather wait for build-target and install the new gcc-4.2 based build later
11:07 < rxr> yes sure
11:08 < rxr> just wanted to know if it is worth continuing takeing a look on the failed entry in my reference builder
11:08 < sepp> btw, 1-groff still fails on x86_84
11:08 < sepp> at least on my box
11:08 < rxr> oh, with what kind of error ?
11:08 < CIA-9> rene * r24150 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (1.28 -> 1.29)
11:08 < sepp> the strange c++ error
11:09 < sepp> in configure
11:09 < CIA-9> rene * r24151 /trunk/package/security/prelude-lml/prelude-lml.desc: * updated prelude-lml (0.9.9 -> 0.9.10)
11:10 < sepp> i can reproduce it in a moment ...
11:13 < CIA-9> rene * r24152 /trunk/package/network/hylafax/hylafax.desc: * updated hylafax (5.1.3 -> 5.1.4)
11:15 < sepp> http://rafb.net/p/jSrh0K21.html
11:17 < rxr> hm
11:18 < sepp> i moved it to stage 3 because i did not understand what it wrong ...
11:18 < sepp> to go on
11:18 < rxr> I'll check out locally
11:19 < rxr> maybe my rediff for the cross-g++-header patch is not yet perfect or so
11:19 < sepp> thanks :)
11:24 < rxr> sepp: best would be to throw it into Trac
11:24 < rxr> so I do not fotget it
11:24 < sepp> ;)
11:25 < rxr> forget even
11:25 < rxr> as I do two other things right onw: working on exact-image and waiting for a glibc-2.6 test build to finish .-)
11:34 < sepp> #196 ;)
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12:01 < CIA-9> rene * r24153 /trunk/package/develop/loki/ (. loki.cache loki.desc): * added loki (0.1.6) - A C++ library that demonstrates generic programming and design patterns
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12:12 < write_erase> hi
12:12 < sepp> hi write_erase 
12:14 < write_erase> While (cross) compiling ircii, the make process first compile some helper tool 'mksiginc' which is used later in the Makefile. 
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12:15 < write_erase> As the binary mksiginc is compiled for the target processor, it can't be executed, the makefile fails 
12:15 < write_erase> What would be the proper way to solve that  ? 
12:18 < sepp> dont know, other irc client?
12:18 < sepp> :p
12:21 < rxr> write_erase: irssi should be fixed
12:21 < rxr> we do have similar patches for some x.org packages
12:22 < rxr> the helper that generate something need to be build with the $(HOSTCC)
12:22 < write_erase> I was about to replace $(CC) with 'gcc' .... $(HOSTCC) seems Better ... thx 
12:23 < rxr> patches welcome
12:23 < rxr> dont' forget to add a [F] CROSS mark to the irssi package once it cross builds :-)
12:25 < write_erase> Ok
12:32 < rxr> damn - glibc-2.6 causes some regressions
12:32 < rxr> that will be fun to fix :-(
12:45 < CIA-8> rene * r422 /trunk/utility/Endianess.hh: * revisited endianess traits and auto-converter
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13:34 < CIA-8> rene * r423 /trunk/utility/Endianess.hh: * fixed FreeBSD endianess support
13:38 < CIA-9> susan * r24154 /trunk/package/base/u-boot/u-boot.desc: * fixed u-boot Priority tag (superfluous -)
13:41 < write_erase> rxr  mkmksig.pl  generate  getsignal.c , which is compiled and run > sig.inc containing a list "char *signals[] = {ZERO", "HUP", "INT", "QUIT", "ILL", "TRAP", "IOT", "BUS", "FPE", "KILL", "USR1""
13:42 < write_erase> I think I'll remove all that chain , and add a patch creating a static sig.inc  ? is that OK ? 
13:44 < rxr> I guess the helper is used to get the actual order or so of those signals for the actual CPU, the signal numbers are CPU & OS dependant
13:46 < write_erase> Yes... But no idea how to make some 'clean' patch 
13:47 < rxr> generate a compatible list yourself, probably without using 'cc' but some tiny script or so
13:47 < rxr> try  with a quick hack for now
13:48 < rxr> and if you got it running once we can still work out something that the upstream folks accept
13:52 < d-marc> hi
13:54 < write_erase> rxr,  What about those kind of errors : 
13:54 < write_erase>  checking host system type... Invalid configuration `avr32-t2-linux-uclibc': machine `avr32-t2' not recognized
13:54 < write_erase> (glib)
14:02 < CIA-8> rene * r424 /trunk/gfx/EvasHelper.cc: * removed unused endias.h inclusion
14:02 < rxr> the config.{sub.guess} needs updating
14:03 < rxr> we have code that sould try to replace it, however it might not try to replace it in that case
14:05 < write_erase> you mean a patch for config.{sub.guess} so the avr32 is recognized ? 
14:05 < rxr> yes you can just copy it from the ones crated by the T2 build
14:05 < rxr> T2 already has code to update the files automatically
14:05 < rxr> however it does not  try very hard
14:06 < rxr> I locally have a tiny modification that replaces the files more often, but as I have not yet fully teseted it (whether to cause regressions) I did not yet commit it
14:07 < CIA-8> rene * r425 /trunk/utility/Makefile: 
14:07 < CIA-8> * commented dl / pthread libs out for now, breaks exact-image on FreeBSD and if still
14:07 < CIA-8>  needed should be just used for the utility module
14:08 < CIA-8> rene * r426 /trunk/utility/Endianess.hh: * adapted the endianess helpers for Apple OS X, sigh
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14:55 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/89936
14:55 < rxr> ^- Oracle verwendete einen IBM System p6570 Server mit acht bei jeweils 4,7 GHz
14:55 < rxr> moin misl 
15:27 < CIA-9> rene * r24155 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/exact-image.desc: * updated exact-image (0.3.6 -> 0.3.7)
15:41 < write_erase> rxr, glib and other gnome2 libraries are installed in opt/gnome2 ? Is that normal ? 
15:42 < rxr> that is the t2 default, yes
15:42 < rxr> you can change that in scripts/config
15:43 < rxr> scripts/Config even
15:45 < write_erase> myavr-7.0-trunk-mediavr-avr32-ap7000-cross/usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so: No such file or ....
15:45 < write_erase> while compiling irssi 
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15:46 < write_erase> sorry 
15:48 < write_erase> Is it possible to switch on the toolchain environement , so I can do the ./configure && make 'by hand' ? 
15:49 < sepp_> in src.* - ./debug.sh
15:50 < write_erase> fine
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16:08 < rxr> hey d-marc 
16:08 < d-marc> hello
16:08 < rxr> I'm not long in the office anymore, /me's hungry :-)
16:09 < d-marc> rxr: dont forget to look up the binray sizes when you find the time
16:09 < rxr> oh yes
16:12  * rxr booting the t-resc router testboard ...
16:14 < d-marc> thanks :)
16:16 < rxr> libstdc++.so.6.0.8 built against uclibc on x86 optimized for size -Os (at least I think the binry should be): 769768
16:17 < rxr> ^-> T-Resc from T2 SDE 7.0-trunk (2007/01/06)
16:18 < d-marc> hmm
16:31 < rxr> hmm === big ?
16:34 < d-marc> i think is matches what tommi had on his router
16:35 < d-marc> I guess we can save about 500 kb with uclibc++, right?
16:36 < d-marc> and it would be interesting to see what you can leave away from the gnu stdc++
16:36 < rxr> 896248 May 20 12:59 build/default-7.0-trunk-reference-x86-athlon-xp/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.9
16:36 < rxr> ^- gcc-4.2.0, glibc-2.6, x86-athlon-O1 or so ...
16:36 < d-marc> thats 100 kb more
16:37 < rxr> standard stdc++ is just fat alreay whethr to use a lightweight c library does not change that much
16:37 < d-marc> I mean we can just leave away some of the obsure stuff
16:37 < d-marc> locales and wchar_t base streams
16:38 < d-marc> only one locale needs to be present
16:39 < d-marc> type of locale I mean
16:39 < d-marc> for char
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16:46 < CIA-9> rene * r24156 /trunk/package/firmware/ (ipw2100-fw/ipw2100-fw.desc ipw2200-fw/ipw2200-fw.desc): * fixed firmware package License tags
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17:25 < write_erase> rxr, could you help me install my build root and kernel  on  my ngw100 board ? 
17:40 < CIA-9> sebastian * r24157 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: 
17:40 < CIA-9> * changed poppler build priority (127.500 -> 127.750)
17:40 < CIA-9>  right after gtk+, to really build the glib part (which needs gdk...)
18:03 < sepp_> $arch is 'x86-64' instead of 'x86_64' - weird
18:04 < sepp_> is that some type somewhere?
18:04 < sepp_> typo
18:12 < sepp_> hmm, no
18:28 < sepp_> o_O
18:28 < sepp_> -hook_add postmake 5 "cp -v `uname --machine`/libmpeg3.a $libdir/"
18:28 < sepp_> +hook_add postmake 5 "cp -v $arch_machine/libmpeg3.a $libdir/"
18:28 < sepp_> why would - fail and +work ?
18:30 < Ragnarin> uname during builds is a no-no ... breaks cross-building
18:30 < Ragnarin> ?
18:31 < sepp_> sure, but with debug.sh and `uname --machine` i still get x86_64
18:32 < sepp_> but with Build-Target it gets ''
18:33 < sepp_> btw, hi Ragnarin :)
18:34 < Ragnarin> hey sepp_ =) lol
18:34 < Ragnarin> the uname in build-target is a wrapper
18:35 < sepp_> i know, prints dont use me all the time ...
18:44 < rxr> re
18:45 < rxr> sepp_: I think our uname wrapper can not parse the long options
18:45 < rxr> can it ?
18:45 < rxr> oh - no should
18:46 < rxr> I added support for that
18:46 < sepp_> just wonder why it would work with debug.sh but not with Build-Target
18:46 < sepp_> `uname --machine` 
18:48 < sepp_> though it should most probably be $arch_machine in the 1st place
18:53 < sepp_> and it was in libmpeg3.conf, so not my fault :p
18:54 < rxr> you said it is empty ?
18:54 < sepp_> only with Build-Target, not in debug.sh
18:54 < rxr> you could try using ' instead of " so that the content is not evaluated before adding to the hook
18:54 < rxr> but just using arch_machine is fine for me
18:59 < sepp_> ahh ' vs " :)
18:59 < rxr> did it make it work for you ?
18:59 < sepp_> yes
19:02 < sepp_> good to know
19:03 < rxr> btw valentin: I started using Exact:: as namsepace for new exact-{audio,image} code :-)
19:03 < rxr> that just looks cool :-)
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19:14 < sepp_> bash segfaults running ./build.sh inside boost-jam
19:18 < rxr> not good
19:18 < sepp_> yup :/
19:19 < rxr> glibc-2.6 has lovely regressions:
19:19 < rxr> !> ///usr/include/sys/stat.h:508: warning: C99 inline functions are not supported; using GNU89
19:19 < rxr> !> ///usr/include/sys/stat.h:515: warning: C99 inline functions are not supported; using GNU89
19:19 < rxr> !> ///usr/include/sys/stat.h:523: warning: C99 inline functions are not supported; using GNU89
19:19 < rxr> !> In file included from utimecmp.c:34:
19:19 < rxr> Maybe we should start stripping -std=whatever from packages ...
19:20 < rxr> and just let the compiler accept whatever it's capable of compiling instead of random down-foring to some standard the system headers are not even compatible with
19:20 < rxr> and a new glibc maintainer shoudl be elected ...
19:20 < sepp_> hehe
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20:03 < CIA-9> susan * r24158 /trunk/scripts/config.in: * fixed custom pkgsel rule parser to accept the new '=' (set to default) operator
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