--- Log opened Thu Apr 26 00:00:40 2007 01:52 -!- rxr [n=rene@port-212-202-42-24.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2 01:52 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 6.0.3 Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 01:52 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Mar 28 15:39:58 2007] 01:52 [Users #t2] 01:52 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin] 01:52 [ CIA-20 ] [ emte ] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz] 01:52 [ Dallur ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX] 01:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 01:52 -!- rxr [n=rene@port-212-202-42-24.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #gsmp 01:52 [Users #gsmp] 01:52 [ CIA-26] [ rxr] 01:52 -!- Irssi: #gsmp: Total of 2 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 2 normal] 01:52 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Nov 26 07:44:08 2006 01:52 -!- Channel #gsmp created Fri Dec 22 01:05:07 2006 01:52 -!- [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 01:52 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 01:53 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 22 secs 01:53 -!- Irssi: Join to #gsmp was synced in 24 secs 03:17 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:17 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 03:31 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 03:36 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 03:38 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:49 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.22.24] has joined #t2 05:35 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.17.213] has joined #t2 05:48 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.22.24] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:26 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.17.213] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:28 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.13.198] has joined #t2 06:29 -!- keinek_ is now known as keinek 06:50 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.13.198] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007031001]"] 08:20 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.61.183.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 08:24 < rxr> re 08:25 < mtr> hi rxr 08:36 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 08:37 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:38 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.61.183.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 08:38 < sepp> moin :) 08:43 < CIA-20> susan * r23799 /trunk/package/audio/snd/snd.desc: * updated snd (8.9 -> 9) 08:44 < CIA-20> susan * r23800 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.desc: * updated libidn (0.6.11 -> 0.6.12) 08:45 < mtr> moin moin sepp ;) 08:45 < sepp> hi mtr :) 08:45 < rxr> hi sepp 08:45 [Users #t2] 08:45 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ] 08:45 [ CIA-20 ] [ emte_ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin] 08:45 [ Dallur ] [ idealm] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz] 08:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 08:46 < sepp> e17 died :/ 08:46 < sepp> hi rxr :) 08:47 < rxr> just on your box, or the people lost the fun in coding it ? 08:48 < sepp> just on my box, they will never loose fun in breaking everything :D 08:56 < rxr> guess "Break me" music running fulltime while coding :-) 09:07 < sepp> :) 09:26 < Stelz> moin all 09:27 < sepp> moin Stelz 09:28 < Stelz> heya 09:29 < sepp> :) 09:29 [Users #t2] 09:29 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ] 09:29 [ CIA-20 ] [ emte_ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin] 09:29 [ Dallur ] [ idealm] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz] 09:29 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 10:00 < CIA-20> rene * r23801 /trunk/package/office/pdfedit/pdfedit.desc: * removed mirror from pdfedit Download tag 10:27 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:27 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 10:32 < CIA-20> rene * r23802 /trunk/package/base/linux26/ (linux26.desc mactel.patch usb-hotfix.patch): * updated linux26 (2.6.20.7 -> 2.6.21) 10:33 < CIA-20> rene * r23803 /trunk/package/filesystem/ (squashfs-tools/pkg_linux_pre.conf unionfs/unionfs.desc): * updated and adapted unionfs and squashfs-tools for 2.6.21 10:44 < CIA-20> susan * r23804 /trunk/package/network/iwlwifi/ (KVER.patch iwlwifi.desc): * updated iwlwifi (0.0.8 -> 0.0.11) 10:45 < CIA-20> susan * r23805 /trunk/package/network/d80211/ (d80211.desc eth-naming.patch pkg_linux26_pre.conf): * updated d80211 to mac80211 (1.0.1 -> 4.0.4) and fixed the interface naming to eth%d 10:48 < CIA-20> susan * r23806 /trunk/package/network/ (9 files in 2 dirs): * renamed d80211 -> mac80211 10:50 < CIA-20> rene * r23807 /trunk/target/desktop/pkgsel: * adapted the desktop target for the d80211 -> mac80211 (upstream) rename 11:10 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:11 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 11:17 [Users #t2] 11:17 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ] 11:17 [ CIA-20 ] [ emte__] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin] 11:17 [ Dallur ] [ idealm] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz] 11:17 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 11:42 < CIA-20> rene * r23808 /trunk/package/network/hostap-driver/hostap-driver.desc: 11:42 < CIA-20> * disabled hostap-driver by default as they do not build with recent 11:42 < CIA-20> kernels, they also look a bitrotting, are they still needed for 11:42 < CIA-20> something? 12:11 < mtr> http://hostap.epitest.fi : 12:11 < mtr> Note! Host AP driver was added into the main kernel tree in Linux v2.6.14. The version in the kernel tree should be used instead of this external hostap-driver package. The external releases are only for older kernel versions and all the future development will be in the main kernel tree. 13:25 < rxr> re 13:25 < rxr> mtr: thanks 13:26 < rxr> I read over their side some time ago, but did not found this kind of clear information 13:26 < rxr> thanks 13:26 < rxr> who does the svn rm ? 13:32 < mtr> svn mv .../network/hostap-driver .../attic and "[P] O" ? 13:34 < rxr> well, those packages are likely not needed in the future anymore at all 13:35 < rxr> I favour the svn history as attic than keeping dozens of bitrotting packages in the tree 13:35 < rxr> also this likely confuses people including our online packages matrix 13:41 < mtr> it would help only those people using an old (< 2.6.14) kernel with a target linux26 overlay ...oO (does not make much sense at all) 13:42 < rxr> yeah - unlikely 13:48 < CIA-20> rene * r23809 /trunk/package/network/hostap-driver/: 13:48 < CIA-20> * removed hostap-driver, according to the upstream website in the 13:48 < CIA-20> mainline kernel since around 2.6.14 13:53 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:54 [Users #t2] 13:54 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin] 13:54 [ CIA-20 ] [ emte__] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz] 13:54 [ Dallur ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX] 13:54 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 14:06 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 14:07 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:00 < rxr> all the third pary moduls built astonishing well with 2.6.21 16:00 < rxr> boots on the dual-G5 just fine as well 16:02 [Users #t2] 16:02 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin] 16:02 [ CIA-20 ] [ emte_ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz] 16:02 [ Dallur ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX] 16:02 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 16:24 < CIA-20> rene * r23810 /trunk/package/editors/nano/nano.desc: * updated nano (2.0.5 -> 2.0.6) 17:10 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:12 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 17:12 < rxr> re 17:14 < rxr> btw. 2.6.21 just manage to fully suspend and resume on my MacBook C2D running in 64bit mode 5 times in a row 17:14 < rxr> (yes, stress testing the beast) 17:30 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.28.182] has joined #t2 17:39 < LMJ> moin moin 17:40 < rxr> hi LMJ 17:40 < LMJ> how are you rxr ? 17:40 < rxr> oh, fine - thanks 17:40 < rxr> and you ? 17:40 [Users #t2] 17:40 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ] 17:40 [ CIA-20 ] [ emte_ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin] 17:40 [ Dallur ] [ keinek] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz] 17:40 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 17:41 < LMJ> too much time at work, but i'm ok ;) 17:43 < CIA-20> rene * r23811 /trunk/package/xorg/bdftopcf/bdftopcf.desc: * updated bdftopcf (1.0.0 -> 1.0.1) 17:47 < CIA-20> rene * r23812 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-input-acecad/xf86-input-acecad.desc: * updated xf86-input-acecad (1.1.0 -> 1.1.1) 17:51 < CIA-20> sebastian * r23813 /trunk/package/x11/libart_lgpl23/cpp_extern.patch: * imported upstream c++/extern fix, undefined reference to art_alloc/free/realloc 17:52 < rxr> sepp: this brings me to another topic, we should skip the ugly _lgpl23 from the package name 17:52 < rxr> do you agree ? 17:53 < sepp> 23 or _lgpl or both? 17:53 < rxr> even the _lgpl 17:54 < rxr> in ancient times this was to indicate this is the source version in contrast to what the author wanted money for (or so) 17:54 < rxr> but the thing looks more obsolete every day 17:54 < rxr> with all the people using whatever like Cairo etc. but not this aging thing ... 17:55 < sepp> dont know, authors decided to use that stupid name 17:56 < rxr> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/libart-2.0-2 17:56 < rxr> other dists just have libart as well 17:56 < sepp> ok 17:56 < rxr> that extension is just like qt's -free-x11, etc. naming 17:57 < rxr> I rename it 17:57 < sepp> rename it :) 17:57 < rxr> I guess before 7.0 we also should move some develoment stuff like gcc and binutils out of package/base into package/develop 17:58 < sepp> or tcl 17:58 < rxr> though that is just eye-cany in contrast to this ugly name ... :-) 18:01 < sepp> better to look at, unlike the rock mess with every package in some random named dir 18:06 < sepp> and it really does not make that much sense to have tcl in base 18:07 < rxr> one day we also have to revist the [C]ategory tags 18:07 < rxr> currently they are more or less useless :-( 18:07 < rxr> but more important stuff first 18:08 < rxr> that is get 7.0 with all the new shiny features & co out of the door this summer 18:08 < sepp> :) 18:08 < rxr> including hopefully Minix3 support, I also need to finalize Blackfin support 18:08 < rxr> and then the ongoing book work 18:10 < CIA-20> sebastian * r23815 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/ (poppler.conf poppler.desc): * changed poppler build priority (127.020 -> 127.500), after pango for the glib wrapper 18:10 < rxr> rename went into the tree btw. 18:10 < rxr> r23814 18:10 < rxr> guess CIA skips it due to too many changes file (adapted .cache files) 18:11 * rxr hoping with 2.6.21 this damn MacBook finally survives a suspend-to-ram when I walk home 18:12 < rxr> when testing some hours ago it worked 5 times in a row 18:12 < rxr> but somehow with a some time of fancy 3D desktop load the box nearly never suspended correctly with former kernels at the end of a day ... :-((( 18:12 < sepp> i hope a lightning strikes all the acpi guys down 18:13 < rxr> yes, I wish I never had sold me iBook on ebay ... 18:13 < rxr> though it had just a G3, it was the last model with transparent white casing and aluminium display fixation 18:14 < rxr> later on apple used plastic for the display holding and el-chepo plastic, not this inside white transparent plastic ... 18:14 < rxr> not to mention suspend just worked even 4 years ago with those non-ACPI machines under Linux 18:15 < sepp> it worked even on my 1999 toshiba laptop 18:15 < rxr> did I mention this doomed MacBooks are so cheapish? 18:16 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-12-21/apple-macbook-core-2-duo-c2d-review/ 18:16 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-06-26/apple-macbook-review/ 18:16 < sepp> :) 18:16 < rxr> too bad the market is that saturated, with the se poor devices it would make sense to get an own hardware design out of the door 18:17 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-12-03/who-designes-this-crap-this-milleniums-laptops/ 18:17 < rxr> ok, 'nough ranting for today ... :-)) 18:19 < CIA-20> rene * r23816 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ooo.conf: * adapted package's .conf files (just ooo.conf) for the libart_lgpl23 -> libart rename 18:28 < rxr> so, /me heading home trying to exchange the high-pitch noisy old Segate HD of my "Cube" with a supposely way more silent, decent Samsung one ... 19:04 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:05 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 19:06 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.28.182] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:06 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.32.18] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:08 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.9.251] has joined #t2 19:46 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.40.122] has joined #t2 19:59 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.9.251] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:13 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 20:15 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:26 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.40.122] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:42 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.17.245] has joined #t2 20:42 -!- keinek_ is now known as keinek 21:37 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:56 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 22:06 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@kobz-590cbc48.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 22:20 -!- mtr [n=Michael@kobz-590cbec0.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:20 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 22:32 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p85.212.10.46.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 22:47 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.61.183.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:56 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-091-089-002-127.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 22:57 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-091-089-002-127.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has quit [Client Quit] 23:20 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Fri Apr 27 00:00:40 2007