T2 IRC Log: 2007-04-25
This is the log as captured by an IRC bot in the channel. The statements are those of the individual people and might not neccessarily reflect the policy and legal rules as set forth by the T2 SDE Project.
--- Log opened Wed Apr 25 00:00:39 2007
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07:22 < sepp> i think poppler needs to be after pango to build its glib wrapper
08:17 < rxr> re
08:20 < mtr> moin rxr
08:26 < rxr> moin sepp and mtr
08:30 < sepp> hi :)
08:53 < CIA-20> rene * r23791 /trunk/package/kde/kalarm/kalarm.desc: * updated kalarm (1.4.10 -> 1.4.11)
08:54 < CIA-20> rene * r23792 /trunk/package/mail/getmail/getmail.desc: * updated getmail (4.7.3 -> 4.7.4)
09:10 < CIA-20> rene * r23793 /trunk/package/base/pcre/pcre.desc: * updated pcre (7.0 -> 7.1)
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10:20 < rxr> L?cken in Microsoft Office bei Industriespionen immer beliebter
10:20 < rxr> ^- lol
10:20 < rxr> poor Windows boys ...
10:20 < rxr> "Der Dienstleister MessageLabs berichtet in einem Report von einer steigenden Zahl zielgerichteter Attacken mittels pr?parierter Excel-, Word- und PowerPoint-Dateien in E-Mail-Anh?ngen, die Sicherheitsl?cken in Office ausnutzen."
10:20 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/88794
10:24 < CIA-20> rene * r23794 /trunk/package/network/cfengine/cfengine.desc: * updated cfengine (2.1.20 -> 2.1.22)
10:27 < CIA-20> rene * r23795 /trunk/package/ (archiver/liblzf/liblzf.desc xfce4/libexo/libexo.desc): * fixed two very wront occurances of my mail address in Maintainer tags
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12:03 < rxr> ttp://www.petitiononline.com/RSX/
12:22 < CIA-20> mtr * r23796 /trunk/package/graphic/libungif/libungif.conf: * fixed libungif cross-build by adding the missing $root
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12:43 < CIA-20> rene * r23797 /trunk/package/graphic/libungif/libungif.conf:
12:43 < CIA-20> * further fixed libungif to use $libdir and not just usr/lib, thus
12:43 < CIA-20> honor both $prefix and $libdir != lib, such as lib64
13:10 < rxr> ouhm
13:11 < rxr> found some more Beryl knobs that make my 3D desktop even more awesome to look at ...
13:11 < rxr> uneblievable zooming and blinking this is now ..
13:33 < sepp> blinkenXorg
13:39 < rxr> yeah, very blinking
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14:12 < rxr> http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2007/video/talks/154.pdf
14:20 < rxr> http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Nouveau_Companion_18
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14:40 < rxr> heh - finally found the damn glibc regression on my reference builder
14:40 < rxr> the Xen optimization was causing 0-glibc header extraction to not work correct anymore
14:40 < rxr> as makeopt was then not empty anymore ...
14:48 < CIA-20> rene * r23798 /trunk/architecture/x86/pkg_glibc_post.conf:
14:48 < CIA-20> * fixed x86 glibc Xen TLS optimiization to not break the 0-glibc
14:48 < CIA-20> build, as with a non-empty $makeopt variable the build does not
14:48 < CIA-20> only install the headers, but try to compile object files
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18:08 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 6.0.3 Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
18:08 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Mar 28 15:39:58 2007]
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18:08 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
18:08 [ CIA-20 ] [ emte ] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz]
18:08 [ Dallur ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX]
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18:08 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Nov 26 07:44:08 2006
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19:34 < rxr> Stelz: do you have some time for T2/OpenBSD in the forseable future ?
19:50 < Stelz> hm.. forseable?..
19:50 < Stelz> hello rxr
19:50 < Stelz> i have a preparation for exams.. during these two months..
19:51 < Stelz> may/june. preparation/exams.
19:51 < Stelz> also a i told you about smthng.. that i need some examples about multikernel-building
19:52 < rxr> yeah - I ask becasue the handbook will get more and more explanations regarding this
19:52 < rxr> and it would have coure have been awesome if you could then try it out and respond what you find missing
19:52 < Stelz> of course!
19:53 < Stelz> i'll start the support opbsd-kernel-building, ASAP
19:54 < rxr> but about the next two month you are mostly busy, right?
19:55 < Stelz> so-so.. i laso have an course-project. IRC bot in C++. then yeah.. need more time for Uni
19:55 < Stelz> *also
19:55 < Stelz> u need me to do smthng?
19:56 < Stelz> OpenBSD 4.1 will be released on 1 May
19:56 < Stelz> btw.
20:08 < rxr> openbsd: Fix memory leak in top(1).
20:09 < Stelz> rxr: so what do you think?..
20:09 < rxr> about top or the integration ?
20:09 < rxr> well, as with the BSDs getting the real system component parts out of their fat source tree is a bit messy
20:09 < rxr> but we shoudl start this ASAP
20:10 < rxr> I continue to fill more gaps in the T2 handbook for the next 2 weeks or so I would propose so you all have a better base to work on
20:10 < Stelz> it would be really great
20:10 < Stelz> also for me. for my education about UNIX.
20:11 < R4gnar0k> opbsd-kernel-building?
20:11 < R4gnar0k> neat :)
20:12 < rxr> Stelz: you know the docu location, hm? http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/
20:12 < rxr> the handbook is currently quite rapidly beating up-to-date and ready-for-print
20:12 < rxr> but there are about 4 weeks full time working on it left before it will be ready ...
20:12 < rxr> R4gnar0k: yeah, Minix integrating is coming from my side as well
20:13 < rxr> plus other "for the fun of it" stuff like "damn we should integrate Haiku"
20:13 < rxr> http://haiku-os.org/
20:15 < Stelz> yeah rxr, i know about it, thx :)
20:15 < R4gnar0k> lol
20:17 < rxr> ok - gotta go, cu tomorrow
20:17 < Stelz> cu
20:27 < R4gnar0k> cya
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21:43 < cmon_buds> hey
21:44 < cmon_buds> can anyone help me setup dhcp
21:44 < cmon_buds> from the stone menu system options?
21:44 < cmon_buds> :)
21:44 < cmon_buds> on archlinux now but love to give t2 a go
21:44 < sepp> yup
21:45 < sepp> $ cat /etc/conf/network
21:45 < sepp> interface eth0 dhcp
21:46 < sepp> with newline after eth0
21:46 < sepp> "
21:46 < sepp> interface eth0
21:46 < sepp> dhcp
21:46 < sepp> "
21:47 < sepp> iirc stone suggests dhcp if it find a nic
21:47 < sepp> you just select ok
21:54 < cmon_buds> ok
21:54 < cmon_buds> If I start the install now
21:54 < cmon_buds> can I chat back in in a second from my xp box?
21:55 < cmon_buds> I found the menu
21:55 < cmon_buds> but there were liek 3 entries with "tags"
21:55 < cmon_buds> and dhcp wouldn't work....
21:55 < sepp> 3 Network Configuration
21:55 < cmon_buds> also it is a gigabit ethernet nic
21:55 < cmon_buds> ok
21:55 < cmon_buds> one sec leme run the setup
21:55 < sepp> ok
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21:56 < roxirc> ok
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21:56 < magic_user> Im back
21:56 < magic_user> cd loading iso now
21:56 < sepp> :)
21:56 < magic_user> leme flip over
21:58 < magic_user> ok
21:58 < magic_user> for partitions
21:58 < magic_user> swap=ram
21:58 < magic_user> do I need a /boot partition?
21:58 < magic_user> I usually put rest unre /
21:58 < magic_user> under /
21:58 < sepp> no
21:58 < magic_user> so swap and / is ok?
21:58 < magic_user> how much swap vs ram do you think
21:58 < magic_user> p4 3gz +2G ram
21:58 < sepp> /home is always a good idea
21:58 < magic_user> y
21:59 < magic_user> why?
22:00 < magic_user> hm
22:00 < sepp> you can kill / but keep home
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22:03 < magic_user> ok
22:04 < magic_user> I am in 'mine'
22:04 < magic_user> I have my partitions and want to pick packages I guess for xorg, firefox, basic system
22:05 < sepp> choose all
22:05 < magic_user> now, I want to pick something for i686?
22:05 < magic_user> to optimize?
22:05 < magic_user> or something?
22:05 < magic_user> or just choose all?
22:05 < sepp> that depends on the iso you downloaded
22:06 < magic_user> ah
22:06 < magic_user> I think i386
22:06 < sepp> maybe pentium+mmx ?
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07:22 < sepp> i think poppler needs to be after pango to build its glib wrapper
08:17 < rxr> re
08:20 < mtr> moin rxr
08:26 < rxr> moin sepp and mtr
08:30 < sepp> hi :)
08:53 < CIA-20> rene * r23791 /trunk/package/kde/kalarm/kalarm.desc: * updated kalarm (1.4.10 -> 1.4.11)
08:54 < CIA-20> rene * r23792 /trunk/package/mail/getmail/getmail.desc: * updated getmail (4.7.3 -> 4.7.4)
09:10 < CIA-20> rene * r23793 /trunk/package/base/pcre/pcre.desc: * updated pcre (7.0 -> 7.1)
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10:20 < rxr> L?cken in Microsoft Office bei Industriespionen immer beliebter
10:20 < rxr> ^- lol
10:20 < rxr> poor Windows boys ...
10:20 < rxr> "Der Dienstleister MessageLabs berichtet in einem Report von einer steigenden Zahl zielgerichteter Attacken mittels pr?parierter Excel-, Word- und PowerPoint-Dateien in E-Mail-Anh?ngen, die Sicherheitsl?cken in Office ausnutzen."
10:20 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/88794
10:24 < CIA-20> rene * r23794 /trunk/package/network/cfengine/cfengine.desc: * updated cfengine (2.1.20 -> 2.1.22)
10:27 < CIA-20> rene * r23795 /trunk/package/ (archiver/liblzf/liblzf.desc xfce4/libexo/libexo.desc): * fixed two very wront occurances of my mail address in Maintainer tags
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12:03 < rxr> ttp://www.petitiononline.com/RSX/
12:22 < CIA-20> mtr * r23796 /trunk/package/graphic/libungif/libungif.conf: * fixed libungif cross-build by adding the missing $root
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12:43 < CIA-20> rene * r23797 /trunk/package/graphic/libungif/libungif.conf:
12:43 < CIA-20> * further fixed libungif to use $libdir and not just usr/lib, thus
12:43 < CIA-20> honor both $prefix and $libdir != lib, such as lib64
13:10 < rxr> ouhm
13:11 < rxr> found some more Beryl knobs that make my 3D desktop even more awesome to look at ...
13:11 < rxr> uneblievable zooming and blinking this is now ..
13:33 < sepp> blinkenXorg
13:39 < rxr> yeah, very blinking
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14:12 < rxr> http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2007/video/talks/154.pdf
14:20 < rxr> http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Nouveau_Companion_18
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14:40 < rxr> heh - finally found the damn glibc regression on my reference builder
14:40 < rxr> the Xen optimization was causing 0-glibc header extraction to not work correct anymore
14:40 < rxr> as makeopt was then not empty anymore ...
14:48 < CIA-20> rene * r23798 /trunk/architecture/x86/pkg_glibc_post.conf:
14:48 < CIA-20> * fixed x86 glibc Xen TLS optimiization to not break the 0-glibc
14:48 < CIA-20> build, as with a non-empty $makeopt variable the build does not
14:48 < CIA-20> only install the headers, but try to compile object files
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18:08 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 6.0.3 Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
18:08 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Mar 28 15:39:58 2007]
18:08 [Users #t2]
18:08 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
18:08 [ CIA-20 ] [ emte ] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz]
18:08 [ Dallur ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX]
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19:34 < rxr> Stelz: do you have some time for T2/OpenBSD in the forseable future ?
19:50 < Stelz> hm.. forseable?..
19:50 < Stelz> hello rxr
19:50 < Stelz> i have a preparation for exams.. during these two months..
19:51 < Stelz> may/june. preparation/exams.
19:51 < Stelz> also a i told you about smthng.. that i need some examples about multikernel-building
19:52 < rxr> yeah - I ask becasue the handbook will get more and more explanations regarding this
19:52 < rxr> and it would have coure have been awesome if you could then try it out and respond what you find missing
19:52 < Stelz> of course!
19:53 < Stelz> i'll start the support opbsd-kernel-building, ASAP
19:54 < rxr> but about the next two month you are mostly busy, right?
19:55 < Stelz> so-so.. i laso have an course-project. IRC bot in C++. then yeah.. need more time for Uni
19:55 < Stelz> *also
19:55 < Stelz> u need me to do smthng?
19:56 < Stelz> OpenBSD 4.1 will be released on 1 May
19:56 < Stelz> btw.
20:08 < rxr> openbsd: Fix memory leak in top(1).
20:09 < Stelz> rxr: so what do you think?..
20:09 < rxr> about top or the integration ?
20:09 < rxr> well, as with the BSDs getting the real system component parts out of their fat source tree is a bit messy
20:09 < rxr> but we shoudl start this ASAP
20:10 < rxr> I continue to fill more gaps in the T2 handbook for the next 2 weeks or so I would propose so you all have a better base to work on
20:10 < Stelz> it would be really great
20:10 < Stelz> also for me. for my education about UNIX.
20:11 < R4gnar0k> opbsd-kernel-building?
20:11 < R4gnar0k> neat :)
20:12 < rxr> Stelz: you know the docu location, hm? http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/
20:12 < rxr> the handbook is currently quite rapidly beating up-to-date and ready-for-print
20:12 < rxr> but there are about 4 weeks full time working on it left before it will be ready ...
20:12 < rxr> R4gnar0k: yeah, Minix integrating is coming from my side as well
20:13 < rxr> plus other "for the fun of it" stuff like "damn we should integrate Haiku"
20:13 < rxr> http://haiku-os.org/
20:15 < Stelz> yeah rxr, i know about it, thx :)
20:15 < R4gnar0k> lol
20:17 < rxr> ok - gotta go, cu tomorrow
20:17 < Stelz> cu
20:27 < R4gnar0k> cya
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21:43 < cmon_buds> hey
21:44 < cmon_buds> can anyone help me setup dhcp
21:44 < cmon_buds> from the stone menu system options?
21:44 < cmon_buds> :)
21:44 < cmon_buds> on archlinux now but love to give t2 a go
21:44 < sepp> yup
21:45 < sepp> $ cat /etc/conf/network
21:45 < sepp> interface eth0 dhcp
21:46 < sepp> with newline after eth0
21:46 < sepp> "
21:46 < sepp> interface eth0
21:46 < sepp> dhcp
21:46 < sepp> "
21:47 < sepp> iirc stone suggests dhcp if it find a nic
21:47 < sepp> you just select ok
21:54 < cmon_buds> ok
21:54 < cmon_buds> If I start the install now
21:54 < cmon_buds> can I chat back in in a second from my xp box?
21:55 < cmon_buds> I found the menu
21:55 < cmon_buds> but there were liek 3 entries with "tags"
21:55 < cmon_buds> and dhcp wouldn't work....
21:55 < sepp> 3 Network Configuration
21:55 < cmon_buds> also it is a gigabit ethernet nic
21:55 < cmon_buds> ok
21:55 < cmon_buds> one sec leme run the setup
21:55 < sepp> ok
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21:56 < roxirc> ok
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21:56 < magic_user> Im back
21:56 < magic_user> cd loading iso now
21:56 < sepp> :)
21:56 < magic_user> leme flip over
21:58 < magic_user> ok
21:58 < magic_user> for partitions
21:58 < magic_user> swap=ram
21:58 < magic_user> do I need a /boot partition?
21:58 < magic_user> I usually put rest unre /
21:58 < magic_user> under /
21:58 < sepp> no
21:58 < magic_user> so swap and / is ok?
21:58 < magic_user> how much swap vs ram do you think
21:58 < magic_user> p4 3gz +2G ram
21:58 < sepp> /home is always a good idea
21:58 < magic_user> y
21:59 < magic_user> why?
22:00 < magic_user> hm
22:00 < sepp> you can kill / but keep home
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22:03 < magic_user> ok
22:04 < magic_user> I am in 'mine'
22:04 < magic_user> I have my partitions and want to pick packages I guess for xorg, firefox, basic system
22:05 < sepp> choose all
22:05 < magic_user> now, I want to pick something for i686?
22:05 < magic_user> to optimize?
22:05 < magic_user> or something?
22:05 < magic_user> or just choose all?
22:05 < sepp> that depends on the iso you downloaded
22:06 < magic_user> ah
22:06 < magic_user> I think i386
22:06 < sepp> maybe pentium+mmx ?
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