--- Log opened Thu Mar 29 00:00:58 2007 01:24 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@kobz-590ca84f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 01:38 -!- mtr [n=Michael@kobz-590ca376.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:38 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 02:20 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@adsl-64-237-249-210.prtc.net] has joined #t2 03:21 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 03:21 < mqueiros> hello! Can anyone tell me if T2 works like LinuxFromScratch ? 04:17 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 06:04 < AStorm> Hullo :> 06:04 < AStorm> Kernel build failed... 06:04 < AStorm> make[3]: *** [/data/t2-trunk/src.linux26.default.20070329.012312.23632.Vishnu/lirc-0.8.1/drivers/lirc_atiusb/lirc_atiusb.o] Error 1 06:04 < AStorm> x86_64, your default config 06:05 < AStorm> also: 06:05 < AStorm> make[1]: *** [/data/t2-trunk/src.linux26.default.20070329.012312.23632.Vishnu/acx100/common.o] Error 1 06:05 < AStorm> also: 06:05 < AStorm> make[2]: *** [/data/t2-trunk/src.linux26.default.20070329.012312.23632.Vishnu/adm8211/wep.o] Error 1 06:05 < AStorm> and 06:05 < AStorm> make[2]: *** [/data/t2-trunk/src.linux26.default.20070329.012312.23632.Vishnu/at76c503a/at76c503.o] Error 1 06:06 < AStorm> That's all. 06:06 < AStorm> If you want a full log, I have that available. 06:07 < AStorm> The errors are about undefined things mostly 06:07 < AStorm> for lirc it's SLAB_ATOMIC 06:08 < AStorm> for acx it's INIT_WORK macro having changed it's parameters 06:08 < AStorm> for adm8211 it's "invalid use of struct page" and some others, looks like a missing #include 06:09 < AStorm> for at76c503a it's INIT_WORK macro too 06:09 < AStorm> :> 06:09 < AStorm> BTW, please don't use the old alsa drivers from the kernel :> 06:12 < AStorm> Use the separate package instead. 06:13 < AStorm> I recall Gentoo having fixed the acx100 problem... or just update to a newer version :> 06:18 < AStorm> BTW, I'm seeing some weirdness with kernel build and split debug 06:18 < AStorm> Like some .debug files being created before the main flist being parsed 06:19 < AStorm> Had to add some grep -v, or else it enters a nasty loop 06:20 < AStorm> The culprits are r1000 driver 06:22 < AStorm> and sn9c102 06:23 < AStorm> Aha, it's strip failing on them for some reason :P 06:25 < AStorm> No, it's not failing, as it seems. 06:26 < AStorm> Oh yes, it is. 06:27 < AStorm> It's forgetting to strip the debugging info 06:27 < AStorm> I'll use objcopy instead of strip, maybe 06:30 < AStorm> Weirdness! 06:30 < AStorm> My gentoo strip and objcopy can "fix" the files. 06:34 < AStorm> Ahha! 06:34 < AStorm> These drivers are made... twice 06:42 < AStorm> then I get the .debug files in the flist :> 07:27 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:47 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 08:48 < rxr> re 09:01 < rxr> heh: http://www.tecchannel.de/blog/posts/190 09:07 < CIA-18> rene * r23283 /trunk/package/base/lm_sensors/lm_sensors.desc: * updated lm_sensors (2.10.2 -> 2.10.3) 09:12 < CIA-18> rene * r23284 /trunk/package/graphic/dcraw/dcraw.desc: * updated dcraw (8.68 -> 8.69) 09:19 < CIA-18> rene * r23285 /trunk/package/network/madwifi/ (macbook.patch madwifi.desc no-find-previous.patch): 09:19 < CIA-18> * updated madwifi (0.9.3 -> 0.9.30.10-r2230-20070328), the Atheros 0024 in MacBook and 09:19 < CIA-18> MacBook Pro rev2 starts to become functional, ... 09:26 < CIA-18> rene * r23286 /trunk/package/gnome2/gmime/gmime.desc: * updated gmime (2.2.4 -> 2.2.6) 09:30 < CIA-18> rene * r23287 /trunk/package/network/liferea/liferea.desc: * updated liferea (1.2.7 -> 1.2.10) 09:40 < CIA-18> rene * r23288 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.conf: * fixed libidn compilation 10:07 -!- Enqlave is now known as Stelz 10:08 < Stelz> so - rehi 10:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23289 /trunk/package/archiver/zziplib/zziplib.desc: * updated zziplib (0.13.47 -> 0.13.49) 10:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23290 /trunk/package/archiver/zziplib/install.patch: * added matching zziplib install hotfix patch 10:16 < rxr> hi Stelz 10:17 < Stelz> hi rxr 10:18 < CIA-18> rene * r23291 /trunk/package/gnome2/libxklavier/libxklavier.desc: * updated libxklavier (3.1 -> 3.2) 11:49 < CIA-18> rene * r23292 /trunk/package/office/pdfedit/ (. no-doc.patch pdfedit.cache pdfedit.conf pdfedit.desc): * added pdfedit (0.2.5) - A editor for manipulating PDF documents 12:40 < CIA-18> rene * r23293 /trunk/package/security/axtls/ (. axtls.cache axtls.conf axtls.desc): * added axtls (1.1.0) - A TLSv1 SSL library designed specifically for embedded devices 12:51 < CIA-18> rene * r23294 /trunk/package/security/matrixssl/ (. matrixssl.cache matrixssl.conf matrixssl.desc): * added matrixssl (1.8.3) - An embedded SSL implementation for small footprint devices 13:00 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:12 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has quit ["I wanna live my life like thunder!"] 13:14 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has joined #t2 14:36 < rxr> re 14:40 < Stelz> rehi rxr 14:49 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mtr 14:50 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mtr 14:57 [Users #t2] 14:57 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-18] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX ] 14:57 [ AStorm ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin] 14:57 [ Capey ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ th ] 14:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 16:12 < Capey> damm, this auto* stuff is killing me 16:51 < rxr> yeah 16:51 < rxr> what are you on right now ?= 16:58 < AStorm> rxr: have you read about my kernel build failures? 17:00 < rxr> AStorm: yes 17:00 < rxr> where there with your debug stuff enabled or plain T2 ? 17:00 < rxr> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2837651365.html 17:01 < AStorm> rxr: both 17:01 < AStorm> The failure is not related to debugging (tried with split debug disabled, still happened) 17:02 < AStorm> Want a log? 17:04 < rxr> yeah log is good 17:05 < rxr> I know some third party modules fail in trunk as they are not updated for 2.6.20 yet 17:05 < AStorm> Yes, these aren't 17:05 < AStorm> acx100 at least has a patch 17:05 < AStorm> r1000 doesn't need an external module anymore AFAICT (it's in the kernel too) 17:06 < AStorm> (that's why I'm seeing it double) 17:06 < AStorm> same with sn9csomething :P 17:06 < rxr> ah ok 17:06 < AStorm> The only one left is the atmel chip :> 17:06 < rxr> can you drop the patches somewhere ? 17:06 < AStorm> try gentoo :> 17:07 < AStorm> Why should I drop them, when they're widely available AND the newest version from acx100.sf.net works fine with 2.6.20? 17:07 < AStorm> :-) 17:07 < AStorm> (also, there's a proper patch in -mm) 17:08 < AStorm> Right now, I'll patchbomb you finished and tested split debug support. 17:09 < rxr> ok, I review the remaining nic build failures in a sec 17:17 < AStorm> rene@exactcode.de, right? 17:17 < AStorm> CC someone? 17:21 < rxr> could also use the list if you are subscribed 17:21 < rxr> but me directly is fine as well 17:21 < AStorm> Hmm, I'm still not subscribed. 17:21 < AStorm> Guess I'll finally subscribe :> 17:21 < AStorm> It goes to you, then. 17:23 < rxr> ok 17:23 < AStorm> Sent. :-) 17:25 < AStorm> Blah, I've subscribed to t2 using that crummy gmail address :P 17:25 < AStorm> Will have to fix that. 17:27 < rxr> did you test the patch ? 17:28 < rxr> ah sorry overread a line myself ... most probably all fnie 17:29 < AStorm> Yes, I did test the patch :-) 17:30 < AStorm> Blah! 17:30 < AStorm> Again, a TPYO strikes 17:30 < AStorm> Notice line with grep 17:30 < AStorm> :> 17:30 < AStorm> And please fix. 17:30 < rxr> hehe ok 17:30 < rxr> that also the line I overread :-) 17:31 < rxr> I think I also go implement this commonly used subdir naming so people feel @home when the use T2 17:31 < AStorm> Ok. 17:32 < AStorm> It's quite easy to implement, just add an if and change dbg variable 17:33 < rxr> yep 17:40 < AStorm> I'm still having a backlog of about 3 months on gmail POP :/ 17:40 < AStorm> And it doesn't send proper UIDL - says there are about 1k messages at most 17:40 < AStorm> Which is simply not true :P 17:40 < AStorm> Thus I have to run fetchmail multiple times :/ 17:52 < CIA-18> rene * r23295 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-common.conf.m4: 17:52 < CIA-18> * added CONFIG_VT to the default kernel options, needed for a 17:52 < CIA-18> defconf-less 2.4.x build 17:53 < CIA-18> rene * r23296 /trunk/package/base/linux24/disable-broken.lst: 17:53 < CIA-18> * removed DEVFS from the linux24/disable-broken list as it is quite 17:53 < CIA-18> handy if you still need a 2.4 kernel for some reason (e.g. embedded 17:53 < CIA-18> boards) and can not yet have u/dev 17:53 < CIA-18> * added CONFIG_CDU535 instead as it actually really fails to build 17:53 < CIA-18> rene * r23297 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * updated linux24 (2.4.34.1 -> 2.4.34.2) 17:53 < rxr> heh - linux24 build now again on the trunk reference builder :-) 17:56 < AStorm> :-) 18:01 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 26.23% (452 hits, 1271 misses) 18:01 < rxr> how that reference builder ccache was untrained ... 18:13 < rxr> s/how/now/ 18:13 [Users #t2] 18:13 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-18] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX ] 18:13 [ AStorm ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin] 18:13 [ Capey ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ th ] 18:13 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 18:24 < CIA-18> rene * r23298 /trunk/package/develop/libuninum/libuninum.desc: * updated libuninum (2.2 -> 2.3) 18:24 < CIA-18> rene * r23299 /trunk/package/textproc/msort/msort.desc: * updated msort (8.39 -> 8.40) 18:39 < LMJ> moin moin 18:39 < rxr> moin moin LMJ 18:44 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 18:47 -!- madtux [n=madtux@196.40.38.43] has joined #t2 18:56 < CIA-18> rene * r23300 /trunk/package/multimedia/sn9c102/: * removed multimedia/sn9c102, it's in the kernel, nowadays 19:06 < rxr> hi madtux and mqueiros 19:07 < madtux> G'Day rxr 19:07 < rxr> how are you miguel? 19:07 < madtux> quite good. how about u? :) 19:09 < rxr> fine thanks 19:16 < rxr> madtux: what do you do these days - still over-busy ? 19:16 < madtux> switching jobs right now.. 19:16 < madtux> signed with hp. 19:16 < rxr> aha, what do you do there then ? 19:16 < madtux> got to stay at my current job for 2 more weeks 19:17 < madtux> rxr: will work on the ITO Unix Group 19:17 < madtux> meaning managing a lot of Unix/Linux servers 19:26 < mqueiros> Hello... 19:36 < mqueiros> Does T2 works like Linux From Scratch ? 19:36 < mqueiros> I would like to give it a try.... 19:36 < rxr> yes, like LFS, just compeltely automated 19:37 < mqueiros> rxr: ok. thanks... 19:38 < madtux> similar concept than LFS.... but much more powerfull and advanced ;-) 19:38 < mqueiros> madtux: Yes... it seemed like that. :) 19:38 < mqueiros> I'm thinking of installing an "old" 20GB hard drive to give it a try... any problem with that ? 19:39 < rxr> nope 19:39 < rxr> only keep in mind that the just releases CDs are minimal X.org Live versions 19:39 < rxr> (without installer ...) 19:40 < mqueiros> Is there any torrent link to download from ? 19:40 < rxr> if you are an advanced user you might build directly from the source 19:40 < rxr> (the t2 source) 19:40 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html 19:41 < madtux> the charm of the "automated" part is that is easy to learn and get used to build ur own stuff 19:41 < mqueiros> rxr: I'v been using Linux for several years... 19:41 < madtux> if ya have experience... u can not only have fun but also perhaps help the project in several different ways 19:41 < rxr> mqueiros: I would propose then to grab the 6.0.3.tar.bz2 release tarball and build exactly what you want from the T2 sources 19:42 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 19:42 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 19:42 < mqueiros> madtux: It would be great if I could help the project... Right now I've got a lot of work... but maybe in the future. 19:43 < mqueiros> rxr: ok, thanks... I will to that as soon as I can. 19:44 < mqueiros> any torrent link to download from ? 19:45 < rxr> nope, sorry, not that I know off 19:45 < mqueiros> rxr: ok... no problem. 19:45 < madtux> have fun mqueiros :-) 19:50 < Stelz> heya madtux 19:50 < madtux> hallo Stelz 19:55 < CIA-18> rene * r23301 /trunk/package/network/acx100/ (acx100.desc linux-2.6.18.patch postlinux.conf): * updated acx100 (20060521 -> 20070101) 20:01 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 20:10 < CIA-18> rene * r23302 /trunk/package/network/at76c503a/at76c503a.desc: * updated at76c503a (2006-12-31 -> 2007-03-28) 20:11 < AStorm> Ok, now adding separate alsa-drivers :> 20:12 < rxr> we have this alsa-driver package 20:12 < rxr> we just only use it for 2.4 20:12 < rxr> usually the 2.6 included alsa stuff is pretty fine 20:12 < rxr> what do you miss specifically 20:12 < rxr> you could even condigure the kernel to not build the internal alsa drivers and use the alsa-driver package instead ... 20:12 < rxr> that's the lovely target flexibility of t2 ... 20:13 < AStorm> rxr: exactly, change the default 20:13 < AStorm> ALSA in the kernel is... old 20:13 < AStorm> 2.6.20 has some .13 version 20:13 < rxr> well - just some weeks ... 20:13 < AStorm> Currently. Will be some months before 2.6.21 comes out. 20:13 < rxr> I consider alsa-driver as a -mm a-like patch tree .. 20:14 < AStorm> Hmm, not really :> 20:14 < AStorm> It's fairly stable in my testing (like 6 soundcards, 2 ac97 chips, 1 hda, 1 ice1724, 1 emu10k1, 1 something-cheap-I-can't-recall) 20:15 < AStorm> Gentoo is recommending that anyway instead of kernel drivers 20:15 < AStorm> and there are little complaints 20:17 < AStorm> Hmm, I've some additional .desc to add: alsa-plugins 20:17 < AStorm> :-) 20:17 < AStorm> E.g. the essential libsamplerate plugin :-) 20:17 < AStorm> (for your HQ sound mixing needs) 20:18 < rxr> :-) 20:18 < rxr> alsa-bluez *something* is also on some TODO or bug tracker 20:18 < rxr> the Bluetooth pairing stuff ... 20:18 < rxr> still beta 20:18 < rxr> might care propose a patch for those ? 20:18 < AStorm> Hmm, you mean the bluetooth sound driver? Never used that yet. 20:18 < AStorm> I don't have the hardware to test (I've got bluez, but no sound device) 20:20 < rxr> too bad :-( 20:22 < AStorm> Maybe I'll buy some mic 20:22 < AStorm> (need one anyway) 20:22 < AStorm> I hope there's one in the "not too expensive" category 20:22 < rxr> usually used for headsets ... 20:23 < AStorm> Hm. 20:23 < AStorm> I've got good headphones anyway (|^_^|) 20:26 < AStorm> Now, the pendrive got backordered, but that won't stop my plan to take over the world ]:-> 20:27 < CIA-18> rene * r23303 /trunk/package/network/hostap-driver/ (3 files): * fixed hostap-driver postlinux registration, unfortunatly this is not enough to make it build 20:32 < AStorm> Hmm, so I have to make my fetchmail run round'n'round 20:32 < AStorm> :-) 20:32 < AStorm> (so that I get the SVN log there :> ) 20:33 < AStorm> And move some other MLs to categorise them better (e.g. everything from vger.kernel.org) 20:35 < AStorm> Hmmm, moving those 200k messages of LKML will take a while... 20:43 < AStorm> I have to hook up that last one stupid pw.edu.pl mailbox (those dummies didn't give any info on how to do it, the server addresses - at worst I'll use some shell script with ssh) 20:47 < CIA-18> rene * r23304 /trunk/package/multimedia/lirc/2.6.20.patch: * imported lirc/2.6.20.patch from Gentoo 20:47 < rxr> so, now out of all the "crappy" third party linux kernel modules we have in t2, only hostap-driver and adm8211 still fail 20:47 < rxr> all the others should be fine 20:47 < rxr> - at least they compile on x86-64 - 20:49 < rxr> maybe I have time at home to continue this puzzle 20:51 < rxr> cu 20:54 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 21:17 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.23.128.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 21:32 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.3.159.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:15 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 23:23 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 23:28 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:38 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Fri Mar 30 00:00:59 2007