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10:52 < CIA-8> sebastian * r22996 /trunk/package/x11/fox/fox.desc: * updated fox (1.6.20 -> 1.6.24)
10:52 < CIA-8> sebastian * r22997 /trunk/package/editors/fxscintilla/fxscintilla.desc: * updated fxscintilla (2006-05-28 -> 1.71)
10:52 < CIA-8> sebastian * r22998 /trunk/package/ruby/fxruby/fxruby.desc: * updated fxruby (1.6.0 -> 1.6.6)
10:54 < CIA-8> sebastian * r22999 /trunk/package/audio/rezound/flac-1.1.3.patch: * added patch for flac >= 1.1.3 to rezound
11:25 < CIA-8> sebastian * r23000 /trunk/package/x11/wxwidgets24/freetype.patch: * added patch for newer freetype to wxwidgets24
12:38 < CIA-8> sebastian * r23001 /trunk/package/e17/e-modules/e-modules.conf: 
12:38 < CIA-8> * removed obsolete broken module rm
12:38 < CIA-8> * append x11 libdir for lib64
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14:33 < LMJ> moin moin
14:33 < LMJ> little problem to compile libetpan from 6.0 on x86_64 : http://pastebin.ca/397098
14:34 < LMJ> any ideas ?
14:35 < sepp> [F] FPIC-QUIRK
14:35 < sepp> in liblockfile
14:35 < LMJ> lol
14:35 < LMJ> fixed in trunk ?*
14:36 < sepp> yup
14:36 < LMJ> awesome ;)
14:37 < LMJ> gonna finish to compile sylpheed-claws & test my new computer ;)
14:38 < sepp> :)
14:38 < LMJ> since automake crashed on [0]  i started from a minimal t2 x86_64 & compiled what i need
14:38 < LMJ> i prefered to do everything from scratch... but it should be ok
14:41 < LMJ> just jahshaka, vlc & autopano-sift still fail
14:41 < sepp> in 6.0 ?
14:42 < LMJ> yep
14:42 < sepp> paste the error somewhere ...
14:42 < LMJ> ok
14:43 < LMJ> wait
14:43 < LMJ> what provides the "mcs" command ?
14:44 < sepp> mono
14:44 < LMJ> http://pastebin.ca/397409
14:46 < sepp> x264 and glew need [F] FPIC-QUIRK
14:46 < sepp> well, on my box glew is fine without fpic
14:46 < sepp> strange
14:46 < LMJ>  =[9]=> Finished building package sylpheed-claws.    <== perfect ;)
14:46 < LMJ> what is this fpic ?
14:47 < LMJ> i have a wouwou EE amd, remenber ? ;)
14:47 < sepp> position independent code
14:49 < sepp> maybe it is an older glew version in 6.0 
14:52 < LMJ> how you can reconize in the error code it needs FPIC ?
14:52 < sepp> ibglew.a(glew.o): relocation R_X86_64_32S against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
14:53 < LMJ> hehe, of course ;)
14:53 < sepp> libx264.a(common.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against ... bla bla
14:54 < LMJ> oki
14:54 < LMJ> until now, x86-64 compilation seems ok
14:55 < sepp> make an list where you had to add fpic-quark ...
14:55 < sepp> :)
14:55 < LMJ> only 3/4 packages
14:56 < LMJ> the 2 previous ones
14:56 < LMJ> + another you told me yesterday iirc
14:56 < LMJ> i could do a svn diff 
14:57 < LMJ> liblockfile glew x264 atm
14:58 < LMJ> maybe vlc now ;)
14:58 < sepp> :)
14:58 < LMJ> "Could not find Python module dbus"   what is the module for this ?
14:58 < LMJ> package**
14:59 < sepp> dbus-python ?
15:00 < LMJ> no dbus-python on 6.0
15:00 < LMJ> arg
15:01 < sepp> ./scripts/Find-Pkg dbus
15:01 < sepp> dont know if it had some other name 
15:01 < LMJ> no
15:01 < LMJ> available on trunk
15:03 < sepp> no clue
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20:38 < LMJ> moin moin back
20:39 < LMJ> i emerged the nvidia package, but i can't find the nvidia module "nvidia" to load it, is there some special to do ?
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20:44 < AStorm> Fix the /usr/src/linux symlink?
20:45 < AStorm> :>
20:47 < LMJ> hello AStorm 
20:47 < LMJ> well, i don't have any linux kernel sources around
20:47 < AStorm> So, that's the problem.
20:47 < AStorm> :>
20:47 < AStorm> You can't build a kernel module w/o kernel sources :-)
20:52 < LMJ> ok, gonna fix this out now ;)
20:53 < LMJ> what is the difference between nvidia & nvidia-legacy
20:53 < LMJ> ?
20:53 < AStorm> Current nvidia drivers don't support anything equal or older than GeForce 2
20:54 < AStorm> (some GF2 might still work though)
20:54 < AStorm> That's why nvidia-legacy exist.
20:56 < LMJ> ok
20:56 < LMJ> got a 6100, gonna take nvidia in that case
20:57 < sepp_> if you want the nvidia module you have to enable nvidia while you build your kernel
20:57 < AStorm> Ah, so that's how it's done :>
20:57 < AStorm> (in T2 already)
20:57 < sepp_> it is build after the main kernel is build, but only if nvidia is enabled ...
20:57 < AStorm> Not the standard nvidia build system? :>
20:57 < LMJ> arg
20:58 < sepp_> there is no kernel source sitting on your hdd just to waste space, so 3rd part kernel mods are build when the kernel source is still there
20:58 < sepp_> right after building the kernel ...
20:59 < LMJ> hum
20:59 < AStorm> Well, do you support custom .configs?
20:59 < LMJ> now, my system is running, how i could recompile it to enable nvidia modules ?
20:59 < sepp_> l package/*/*/pkg_linux*
21:00 < AStorm> l?
21:00 < sepp_> there is _pre and _post stuff to build around that time
21:00 < sepp_> ls
21:00 < AStorm> Ah yes.
21:01 < sepp_> you can enable custom kernel config support in Config 
21:03 < LMJ> no answer sepp_ 
21:04 < sepp_> enable nvidia in you pkgsel and rebuild your kernel if you have no nvidia module
21:05 < LMJ> rebuilt the kernel with a Emerge-Pkg ?
21:06 < sepp_> you have no nvidia.ko?
21:13 < LMJ> nope
21:14 < LMJ> so, gonna recompile my kernel
21:22 < sepp_> good luck :)
21:31 < LMJ> done ;)
21:31 < LMJ> 13min to compile a full kernel ;)
21:35 < LMJ> i guess i have to reboot ?
21:35 < sepp_> load the module
21:35 < LMJ> FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
21:35 < LMJ> -rw-rw-r--  1 root root 7408768 2007-03-16 21:27 /lib/modules/2.6.17.14-dist/video/nvidia.ko
21:36 < sepp_> you are running 2.6.17.14-dist ?
21:37 < LMJ> yep
21:37 < sepp_> depmod?
21:40 < LMJ> good ;)
21:45 < LMJ> i'm at the good resolution, but i haven't saw the nvidia logo,  stderr ouput shows this : http://pastebin.ca/397920
21:45 < LMJ> and the mouse cursor is invisible!
21:46 < sepp_> you need to mess around with the .so's in /usr/src/nvidia/
21:46 < sepp_> libGL and that
21:47 < LMJ> gl extention is activated in xorf.cong
21:47 < LMJ> xorg.conf
21:48 < sepp_>         rm -rf /usr/X11/lib64/libGL.*
21:49 < sepp_>         cp -arv /usr/src/nvidia/lib/* /usr/X11/lib64/
21:49 < sepp_>         cp -arv /usr/src/nvidia/X11R6/lib/* /usr/X11/lib64/
21:49 < sepp_>         ln -sf /usr/X11/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/{libglx.so.1.0.*,libglx.so}
21:49 < sepp_> or os
21:49 < sepp_> or so
21:53 < LMJ> lol
21:53 < LMJ> how simple is that
21:53 < sepp_> dont know
21:54 < sepp_> it stinks :)
21:54 < sepp_> fix it ...
21:54 < LMJ> of course
21:59 < LMJ> fix
21:59 < LMJ> fixed
22:00 < LMJ> libGL.so symlink was missing /usr/X11/....
22:00 < LMJ> anyway
22:00 < LMJ> when i switch back to the terminal from X, i have strange green or red line (dvi plug)
22:01 < LMJ> do you have the same thing sepp_ ?
22:01 < sepp_> no
22:01 < sepp_> run glxgears or glxinfo
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22:11 < LMJ> lol
22:11 < LMJ> configure: error: Your system doesn't have "bc", which has been a standard
22:11 < LMJ> part of Unix since the 1970s.  Come back when your vendor has grown a clue.
22:12 < sepp_> what generates that?
22:13 < LMJ> xscreensaver
22:13 < LMJ> this crap has a zillion of deps
22:15 < AStorm> Well, bc is a small one :>
22:15 < AStorm> T2 has a clue - it's a mostly useless calculator :>
22:16 < sepp_> guess xscreensaver does not really needs bc for anything ...
22:17 < AStorm> Try "touch /usr/bin/bc"
22:17 < AStorm> chmod +x /usr/bin/bc
22:17 < AStorm> then kill the author of the xscreensaver if that works :>
22:18 < LMJ> i'm not going to use xscreensaver crap at all ;)
22:18 < LMJ> 1233 FPS on glxgear
22:18 < sepp_> ln -s /bin/true /usr/bin/bc
22:18 < LMJ> not very good irrc
22:18 < sepp_> software 
22:19 < LMJ> arg
22:19 < AStorm> LMJ, it's not a benchmark
22:19 < sepp_> check the xorg log, most problably you use the mesa libGL
22:19 < AStorm> this GF Go7300 has 1100 FPS
22:19 < sepp_> or glx
22:20 < AStorm> But UT2004 runs great at very high settings
22:20 < AStorm> and 1280x800
22:20 < AStorm> (I have too little ram to run that at even higher settings :> )
22:21 < AStorm> sepp_, unlikely
22:21 < AStorm> glxinfo would say "direct rendering: no"
22:21 < sepp_> you have to cp the nvidia libGL* and the other nvidia crap around
22:22 < LMJ> got direct Rendering : YES
22:22 < AStorm> So that works.
22:22 < AStorm> :>
22:22 < sepp_> LMJ: ^
22:22 < AStorm> sepp_, if it works, it works :>
22:22 < LMJ> ok ~
22:22 < sepp_> it does not work if you get 1000 fps with glxgears ...
22:22 < AStorm> glxgears are more CPU-bound
22:23 < AStorm> on dual-core CPUs they get low FPS :>
22:23 < LMJ> no X error : http://pastebin.ca/397984
22:23 < sepp_> run glxinfo
22:23 < LMJ> and ?
22:24 < sepp_> check if it says nvidia as vendor
22:24 < LMJ> yep
22:24 < LMJ> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
22:24 < LMJ> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6150/PCI/SSE2
22:25 < LMJ> OpenGL version string: 2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.76
22:25 < LMJ> same for server/client vendor
22:29 < sepp_> well, who knows
22:29 < AStorm> To reiterate: it does work.
22:29 < AStorm> Try some game, e.g. tuxracer
22:31 < sepp_> it does not work, with a modern nvidia card you would get 10-20.000 fps ...
22:31 < sepp_> or more
22:31 < AStorm> sepp_, read again what I wrote
22:31 < AStorm> GeForce 7300 is a modern card
22:31 < AStorm> And I get 1100 still :>
22:31 < AStorm> glxgears _is not_ a benchmark
22:31 < sepp_> 81423 frames in 5.0 seconds = 16284.386 FPS
22:32 < AStorm> 0999999.99 FPS
22:32 < AStorm> Read again.
22:32 < AStorm> And then let LMJ play tuxracer for a while :>
22:32 < sepp_> sure it is, if you get around 1000fps is is software gl
22:32 < AStorm> sepp_, no, I do have hw GL
22:32 < AStorm> Read that statement about UT2004
22:32 < AStorm> that WON'T work on software GL :>
22:32 < AStorm> Or it will be a slideshow.
22:32 < AStorm> It isn't.
22:33 < sepp_> why would i get 16000 fps then?
22:33 < AStorm> Your glxgears can't count? :P
22:33 < AStorm> On soft rendering I get about 100 FPS
22:33 < AStorm> glxinfo is the true answer
22:33 < sepp_> it can, if i use mesa i get 1000 ...
22:34 < AStorm> glxinfo will say "direct rendering: no" on soft GL
22:34 < AStorm> :-)
22:34 < AStorm> Also, the provider will be Mesa.
22:35 < LMJ> ok
22:35 < LMJ> thanks a lot, i will be back tomorrow ;)
22:35 < LMJ> good night
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22:36 < sepp_> that is not true, if i overwrite libGL with the nvidia one it will say nvidia, even if there is no hw acceleration
22:37 < sepp_> but you can download spec viewpref if you want, but it is a bit large ...
22:38 < AStorm> But it won't say "direct rendering: yes" if the driver doesn't work
22:38 < AStorm> Actually, that libGL would crash with "GLX not available" on startup.
22:39 < sepp_> try it ;)
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