T2 IRC Log: 2007-03-03

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--- Log opened Sat Mar 03 00:00:14 2007
--- Day changed Sat Mar 03 2007
00:00 < Shingoshi> Crazy thing is, my system says I have it.
00:00 < R4gnar0k> o_o
00:00 < R4gnar0k> what is the exact error?
00:00 < Shingoshi> wam
00:01 < Shingoshi> lua/Makefile:1: build/top.make: No such file or directory
00:01 < Shingoshi> Seems things aren't being found.
00:02 < Shingoshi> http://rafb.net/p/SDZAxt96.html
00:04 < Shingoshi> If I could mount my raid from the T2 cd, I would install T2.
00:04 < Shingoshi> My /usr is on RAID5
00:05 < Shingoshi> T2 install doesn't see it.
00:11 < R4gnar0k> do you have autoconf/automake installed?
00:13 < Shingoshi> yes
00:13 < Shingoshi> And I just reinstalled lua.
00:13 < Shingoshi> Let me try it again.
00:13 < Shingoshi> Did you read my error report?
00:15 < R4gnar0k> yea
00:15 < Shingoshi> No change!
00:15 < R4gnar0k> hm
00:15 < R4gnar0k> this is a new Config?
00:16 < Shingoshi> Maybe I can build this in my Gentoo chroot. It is complete and functional.
00:24 < Shingoshi> It's the Config from svn.
00:29 < R4gnar0k> ok
00:29 < R4gnar0k> yea try in gentoo
00:29 < Shingoshi> I am downloading a new copy of the svn.
00:30 < Shingoshi> This time, I will make a compressed copy of it immediately.
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00:35 < Shingoshi> I will copy generic to a new minigeneric, and delete xorg and desktop.
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00:48 * Shingoshi needs advice here. I just did this in Build-Target, just under the gem description. tlz) compressor=lzma ; file=$file.tlz
00:49 < R4gnar0k> ok?
00:49 < Shingoshi> I want to know if this is where I can change the packaging to "makepkg etc etc etc.tlz
00:49 < R4gnar0k> afaik yes
00:50 < Shingoshi> rxr: Chime in here if you need to. I would like confirmation.
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09:34 < Shingoshi> Would T2 be of any real benefit to the compilation of Wine?
09:57 < emte__> odd question
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09:58 < emte> t2 would be overkill
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11:17 < rxr> re
11:28 < Stelz> rehi rxr
11:29 < rxr> hi Stelz
11:52 < CIA-8> rene * r22800 /trunk/package/graphic/gocr/gocr.desc: * updated gocr (0.43 -> 0.44)
11:53 < CIA-8> rene * r22801 /trunk/package/filesystem/nfs-utils/nfs-utils.desc: * updated nfs-utils (1.0.11 -> 1.0.12)
11:53 < CIA-8> rene * r22802 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.5.0.1 -> 1.5.0.2)
11:54 < rxr> oh my got, how can people do advertisements with such poor dithering:
11:54 < rxr> http://oas.wwwheise.de/RealMedia/ads/Creatives/dlink02_08home_07/DLink_CeBIT_728x90.gif
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11:59 < CIA-8> rene * r22803 /trunk/package/editors/geany/geany.desc: * updated geany (0.10.1 -> 0.10.2)
12:01 < CIA-8> rene * r22804 /trunk/architecture/avr32/kernel.conf: * yet again a revisited avr32/kernel.conf
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12:10 < CIA-8> rene * r22805 /trunk/package/network/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.desc: * updated ndiswrapper (1.34 -> 1.38)
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12:17 < sepp> moin :)
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12:22 < Stelz> moin sepp
12:22 < sepp> hi Stelz
12:23 < rxr> moin sepp
12:24 < sepp> hi rxr
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12:42 < CIA-8> susan * r22806 /trunk/package/gnome2/gconf/gconf.desc: * updated gconf (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
12:42 < CIA-8> susan * r22807 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-speech/gnome-speech.desc: * updated gnome-speech (0.4.9 -> 0.4.10)
12:42 < CIA-8> susan * r22808 /trunk/package/gnome2/gok/gok.desc: * updated gok (1.2.1 -> 1.2.3)
12:45 < CIA-8> rene * r22809 /trunk/package/mail/grepmail/grepmail.desc: * updated grepmail (5.3030 -> 5.3033)
12:47 < CIA-8> rene * r22810 /trunk/package/powerpc/gtkpbbuttons/gtkpbbuttons.desc: * updated gtkpbbuttons (0.6.7 -> 0.6.9)
12:49 < CIA-8> susan * r22811 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-python-extras/gnome-python-extras.desc: * updated gnome-python-extras (2.14.2 -> 2.14.3)
12:49 < CIA-8> susan * r22812 /trunk/package/gnome2/seahorse/seahorse.desc: * updated seahorse (0.9.91 -> 0.9.92)
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17:49 < CIA-8> rene * r22813 /trunk/package/x86/acpid/acpid.conf:
17:49 < CIA-8> Claudio Leonel :
17:49 < CIA-8> * fixed acpid cross compile installation
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18:06 < misl> hi folks
18:16 < Stelz> rehi misl
18:16 < misl> hi Stelz
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20:53 < d-marc> hello
21:45 < sepp> hello d-marc
21:55 < Shingoshi> I asked this question, because of the lag that typically occurs with every release of Wine. So, hence the question, "Would T2 be of any real benefit to the compilation of Wine?
21:55 < Shingoshi> I should say in the context of Slackware.
21:57 < Shingoshi> How quickly would I be able to release new versions of Wine for Slackware from the time the source became available?
21:59 < Shingoshi> rxr: I want to know if you are truly interested in having me contribute to this project or not. I asked for access to the test site days ago, and nothing has happened yet. So I want to know if you are as serious as I am?
22:01 < sepp> maybe he just missed it or was away ;)
22:02 < Shingoshi> sepp: If that was directed at me, this has been an ongoing conversation. He didn't miss it. Neither has LMJ
22:04 < sepp> if you just want the latest greatest wine, i think on slackware t2 might be an overkill and you can just type configure; make ... into some terminal
22:04 < sepp> uhm, words out of order :)
22:05 < Shingoshi> I don't just want it for myself. I want to create distributable pkgs.
22:06 < sepp> for slackware?
22:06 < Shingoshi> yes!
22:07 < Shingoshi> That's why I am anxious to get T2 running and comfigured to create slackware pkgs. Too many pkgs are not available or simply too late.
22:07 < sepp> you could use t2 :P
22:08 < sepp> well, i do not really understand why you want to use t2 to build slackware packages, is the slackware way that bad?
22:08 < Shingoshi> I want to know if once I set it up, can I have an automated rebuild system for creating all of my slackware pkgs?
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22:09 < Shingoshi> Slackware is way that slow to release new pkgs.
22:10 < Shingoshi> Extremely conservative/
22:10 < sepp> if you build all the packages you want with t2, you can make an iso out of them and install it
22:10 < sepp> not slackware but still linux ...
22:10 < Shingoshi> But they need to be in Slackware format with no changes from the original format.
22:12 < Shingoshi> Again, this is not for me alone. It is to create a parasitic distribution which converts Slackware to T2.
22:12 < Shingoshi> But it must start as fully compatible with Slackware.
22:14 < sepp> i think you can do that, but i know nothing about slack or why you would want to do that
22:15 < sepp> if you dont like slackware because every package is 3 years old install something else
22:15 < sepp> much simpler :)
22:15 < Shingoshi> The advantage is by creating more up to date pkgs than are available on Slackware, more users would have the option to readily upgrade their systems to something more current than Slackware's current.
22:17 * Shingoshi is not interested in a conversation of justification, but simply deployment. Anything else is superfluous.
22:18 * Shingoshi simply wants to get the job done!
22:19 < sepp> hmm, since i know nothing about slackware i can not do much about it
22:20 < sepp> but unofficial packages mixed with official ones makes things only worse
22:21 < sepp> for wine that will be no problem
22:22 < Shingoshi> There are already numerous third-party pkgs for Slackware in common use. I am doing nothing new, just more advanced.
22:26 < sepp> well, what should i say, i would ditch it if it takes forever to get new official packages :)
22:26 < sepp> i used debian once
22:26 < sepp> guess it is the same situation
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23:25 < Shingoshi> There is an undocumented target called "share" inside the trunk. I would like to know what is that target for? Is it a separate target independent of all others?
23:37 < sepp> i don't know
23:38 < sepp> guess it is shared functionallity
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--- Log closed Sun Mar 04 00:00:28 2007