T2 IRC Log: 2007-02-25

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--- Log opened Sun Feb 25 00:00:18 2007
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11:29 < rxr> re
11:42 < CIA-8> rene * r22699 /trunk/package/dictionary/xsteak/xsteak.desc:
11:42 < CIA-8> yokoy :
11:42 < CIA-8> * updated xsteak Url tags
11:43 < CIA-8> rene * r22700 /trunk/package/editors/lyx/lyx.desc: * updated lyx (1.4.3 -> 1.4.4)
11:44 < CIA-8> rene * r22701 /trunk/package/office/gnucash/gnucash.desc: * updated gnucash (2.0.4 -> 2.0.5)
11:44 < CIA-8> rene * r22702 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-common/gnue-common.desc: * updated gnue-common (0.6.6 -> 0.6.7)
11:45 < CIA-8> rene * r22703 /trunk/package/office/qbankmanager/qbankmanager.desc: * updated qbankmanager (0.9.38 -> 0.9.39)
11:45 < CIA-8> rene * r22704 /trunk/package/gnustep/gworkspace/gworkspace.desc: * updated gworkspace (0.8.4 -> 0.8.5)
11:45 < CIA-8> rene * r22705 /trunk/package/develop/hte/hte.desc: * updated hte (2.0beta2 -> 2.0beta3)
11:46 < CIA-8> rene * r22706 /trunk/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: * updated nginx (0.5.12 -> 0.5.14)
11:47 < CIA-8> rene * r22707 /trunk/package/security/samhain/samhain.desc: * updated samhain (2.3.1 -> 2.3.2)
11:49 < rxr> ieeek
12:06 < rxr> lol
12:06 < rxr> Initial Design Synopsis for a DragonFlyBSD Filesystem
12:11 < rxr> lol, knopperdisk on distrowatch
12:11 < rxr> "Knopperdisk is a Gentoo-based distribution designed to run from a USB storage device. After exactly one and a half years' development, a new version was just released. One particular among the many changes: "You always had to enter the usb device during the boot so the initrd would know which device to mount which would function as the real root filesystem. Instead of initrd now initramfs is used, and you no longer have to enter the usb device. It's taken care of automatically for you, by scanning all the available SCSI devices, trying to mount them and check whether the knopperdisk image is present or not.""
12:11 < rxr> ^- T2 @Live had this from day one ...
12:12 < rxr> and is used in this style in production use in serveral company products ...
12:12 < rxr> what a joke ...
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12:12 < nacho_macho> Hallo
12:15 < rxr> hi nacho_macho
12:17 < nacho_macho> rxr: the last compilation of trunk lead me to a broken installation..
12:18 < nacho_macho> rxr: dont kno what the reason was, but $PATH of hostsystem was broken..
12:20 < rxr> what exactly do you mean?
12:20 < rxr> (I can not yet follow :-)
12:20 < nacho_macho> i started Build-Target as usual
12:21 < nacho_macho> after 2 days, i ve seen the compilation was stopped coz of error (sry i dont have any logs)
12:21 < nacho_macho> but my debian systems path was broken (su only)
12:22 < nacho_macho> all i kno is, the compilation has stopped somewhere building libpam or so..
12:23 < rxr> and now your debian host is "defect" ?
12:23 < nacho_macho> it was
12:23 < nacho_macho> do u think Build-Target would work with fakeroot?
12:24 < CIA-8> rene * r22708 /trunk/package/base/libcap/ (cross.patch libcap.conf): * fixed libcap to cross build
12:24 < rxr> nacho_macho: you cah try :-)
12:24 < rxr> mtr: guess we really should start the CROSS marking ...
12:30 < CIA-8> rene * r22709 /branches/6.0/package/base/uclibc/patches/nvi-syssiglist.patch: * merged r21635 from trunk: updated uclibc/nvi patch
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12:36 < rxr> moin d-marc
12:40 < d-marc> hello R4gnar0k
12:40 < d-marc> hello rxr
12:59 < rxr> valentin: I was suprised to find yaboot and the G5 OF loaded some 14MB kernel and 40MB initrd just fine
12:59 < rxr> valentin: accidently built a kernel with debug symbols ...
13:01 < rxr> valentin: ah no, the kernel was 40M and the initramfs just 16M
13:01 < rxr> damn UltraSPARC OF errors out way earlier (at least the last time I needed that)
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13:32 < CIA-8> rene * r22710 /trunk/package/base/ (fgetty/fgetty.cache minit/minit.cache uclibc/uclibc.cache): * added fgetty, minit and uclibc .cache files
13:33 < Capey> hmm,wierd linux-header problem
13:33 < rxr> hi Capey
13:34 < Capey> hi rxr
13:34 < Capey> do you want sched.h patch to go under uclibc or linux-header?
13:34 < Capey> editing:
13:34 < Capey> #if 0 /*def __USE_GNU*/
13:34 < Capey> to
13:34 < Capey> #if __USE_GNU
13:35 < Capey> ups
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13:36 < CIA-8> rene * r22711 /trunk/package/powerpc/pmud/pmud.cache: * added pmud.cache
13:53 < rxr> Capey: what do you use as base right now?
13:53 < rxr> Capey: if you use wrt2 from SVN I could compile it in sync so I have an idea what you talk about ;-)
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14:02 < rxr> hi sparc-kly
14:03 < CIA-8> rene * r22712 /trunk/package/ (18 files in 18 dirs): * added a bunch of other missing .cache files
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14:09 < Capey> rxr: yeah wrt2 from svn
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14:09 < Capey> with uClibc
14:14 < rxr> any local modifications ?
14:18 < Capey> few
14:18 < Capey> but only uclibc.conf is important
14:18 < Capey> change coming up:
14:19 < Capey> --- uclibc.conf (revision 22709)
14:19 < Capey> +++ uclibc.conf (working copy)
14:19 < Capey> @@ -79,14 +79,16 @@ echo "X RUNTIME_PREFIX \"/\"" #echo "X DEVEL_PREFIX \"/usr/lib/uclibc\"" # NOTE: why there? echo "X DEVEL_PREFIX \"/usr\""
14:19 < Capey> +
14:19 < Capey> + echo "X HAVE_SHARED"
14:19 < Capey> this was done to get openssl compile
14:20 < Capey> was a quick hack, and needs some modifications to disable/enable if SDECFG_STATIC is defined
14:23 < rxr> you build for arm, hm ?
14:23 < Capey> mips
14:23 < rxr> the linksys had a MIPS cpu?
14:23 < rxr> big or little endian ?
14:23 < Capey> have to verify, but yes, i think so...
14:23 < Capey> big
14:23 < rxr> and specific CPU optimization you selected ?
14:24 < CIA-8> rene * r22714 /trunk/package/xorg/ (7 files in 7 dirs): * updated sparc specific X.org drivers that formerly contained an ERROR mark
14:25 < Capey> geneic
14:25 < Capey> generic
14:27 < rxr> I think mtr builds uclibc+mips regularly
14:27 < rxr> should be rock solid ...
14:27 < rxr> anyway I started a build, likewise
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14:34 < CIA-8> rene * r22715 /trunk/package/ (7 files in 7 dirs):
14:34 < CIA-8> * updated some packages' .cache files with an reference to the
14:34 < CIA-8> old monolythic xorg
14:39 < rxr> Mr. Ballmer, Show Us the Code
14:39 < rxr> http://showusthecode.com/
14:46 < rxr> oh, that is quite strict from Alan Cox:
14:46 < rxr> "... You will instead find that both vendors stopping providing Linux related
14:46 < rxr> source code at about the point they got Xbox related contracts. A matter
14:46 < rxr> which has been pointed out to various competition and legal authorities
14:46 < rxr> and for now where it seems to lie.
14:46 < rxr> Fortunately at the moment there is a simple cure - buy Intel hardware.
14:46 < rxr> That also has the advantage that you are more likely to get help because
14:46 < rxr> some of us only look at AMD processor related problems as part of
14:46 < rxr> official work duties nowdays, and plan to do so until AMD (as owner
14:46 < rxr> of ATI) behave."
14:55 < rxr> http://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp1.html
14:57 < rxr> valentin: -^
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15:17 < rxr> hi LMJ
15:17 [Users #t2]
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15:17 < rxr> Capey: first build error on my side:
15:17 < rxr> 1-uclibc:
15:17 < rxr> STRIP -x -R .note -R .comment ldso/ldso/ld-uClibc_so.a
15:17 < rxr> strip: Unable to recognise the format of the input file `ldso/ldso/ldso.oS'
15:17 < rxr> strip: Unable to recognise the format of the input file `ldso/ldso/mips/resolve.oS'
15:17 < LMJ> moin rxr
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15:22 < nacho_macho2> re
15:23 < nacho_macho2> 2 questions: is there a way to resume a compilation and how can i remove an installed package?
15:23 < rxr> resume a target build or single package?
15:23 < rxr> for a target just re-run Build-Target it will continue where it failed
15:23 < rxr> a single package, no
15:24 < rxr> only if you want to debug it, then cd src.$pkg.$UUID... ; ./debug.sh ...
15:24 < nacho_macho2> ok
15:24 < rxr> install an in-package system use the mine tool (yes this is a legacy thing and we will soon have something else)
15:24 < nacho_macho2> how about removin an installed package? (after successfull compilation)
15:24 < rxr> mine -r $pkg
15:24 < nacho_macho2> ok
15:25 < rxr> Capey: what did you do with embutils given that it does not build with uclibc ?
15:26 < CIA-8> rene * r22716 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/uclibc.conf:
15:26 < CIA-8> * fixed uclibc to compile in CROSS mode when it is a non-native
15:26 < CIA-8> build stage (we do not need SDECFG_CROSSBUILD to know that)
15:28 < CIA-8> rene * r22717 /trunk/package/base/pkgconfig/pkgconfig.conf: * fixed pkgconfig to not depend on SDECFG_CROSSBUILD, likewise
15:33 < Capey> rxr: i didnt get 1-uclibc error
15:33 < Capey> rxr: sorry, i'm using busybox and not the embutils
15:35 < rxr> Capey: the question is how do we want to proceed this this
15:35 < rxr> currently the wrt2 is mostly a copy of an (very) old embedded target
15:35 < rxr> I think we can safely convert it to a static package selectin in the usual pkgsel format
15:37 < Capey> yep
15:37 < rxr> will you do the conversion ?
15:40 < CIA-8> rene * r22718 /trunk/package/security/openssl/openssl.desc: * updated openssl (0.9.8d -> 0.9.8e)
15:43 < CIA-8> rene * r22719 /branches/6.0/package/security/openssl/openssl.desc: * merged r22718 from trunk: * updated openssl (0.9.8d -> 0.9.8e)
15:44 < rxr> ok - after the uclibc fix the next one that fails is: quagga
15:44 < rxr> which package did you encounter problems with ?
15:45 < Capey> so far, known fails are quagga,busybox,wireless-tools and iptables
15:46 < Capey> rxr:ok, i'll convert it. later tonight or early next week
15:47 < Capey> leaving soon for skating
15:49 < rxr> heh - have fun
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15:52 < sepp> moin :)
15:52 < rxr> moin sepp
15:53 < sepp> hi rxr
16:07 < sepp> is someone reading the track thingy?
16:08 < sepp> i can not even make a new ticket there ...
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16:30 < rxr> sepp: are you logged in?
16:30 < rxr> sepp: we had way too much chinese trac spam
16:31 < rxr> and the trac spam filter has some syntax error in the non log-in case
16:31 < rxr> sorry about that, I just had no time to dig this trac crap right now....
16:32 < sepp> ahh, ok
16:32 < sepp> np
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16:33 < rxr> DatabaseError: no such table: spamfilter_log
16:33 < rxr> ^- lol
16:34 < rxr> ok - /me searching now
16:34 < rxr> hi misl
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16:34 < sepp> yeah, kind of silly error instead of 'you moron need to login 1st'
16:37 < sepp> well, just wanted to post that evas needs [P] > librsvg and ewl > emotion ... and if someone runs a ref build, try to push it back ...
16:39 < sepp> not a complicated task but should be tested
16:41 < rxr> maybe better move librsvg before evas and emotion before ewl?
16:41 < rxr> and leave evas and ewl at their positions ?
16:41 < sepp> emotion needs libxine and gstreamer
16:41 < sepp> and gstreamer half of gnome afaics
16:41 < rxr> ic
16:42 < sepp> and i dont even have gnome and well, right now i dont want to download all that and build all the mess i will never use ...
16:43 < sepp> but if someone runs a refbuild, perfect time to test that ;)
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16:50 < sepp> librsvg earlier might work and at least that does not need gconf and all the noise in gnome2/
16:51 < sepp> well, ugly gnome dep knot :/
17:02 < rxr> did I mention that I hate trac
17:05 < rxr> sepp: anonymous trac comments work now, again
17:05 < rxr> maybe you wanna test
17:05 < rxr> and/or grab an account there
17:06 < sepp> ok
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17:15 < sepp> no more stupid sql errors :)
17:20 < CIA-8> rene * r22720 /trunk/package/security/openssh/openssh.conf:
17:20 < CIA-8> Claudio Leonel and Rene Rebe :
17:20 < CIA-8> * fix openssh cross compilation and installation
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18:18 < nacho_macho2> re
18:18 < nacho_macho2> need help again :(
18:19 < nacho_macho2> i have now t2-trunk/build/linuks-7.0-trunk-mini-live-kde-x86-i486/TOOLCHAIN/isofs/live.squash
18:19 < LMJ> hello nacho_macho2
18:19 < nacho_macho2> hi LMJ
18:20 < nacho_macho2> the problem is, some packages had build errors and couldnt be build..
18:20 < nacho_macho2> how can i rebuild the stuff now? (problems solved9
18:21 < LMJ> what was your previous command ?
18:21 < nacho_macho2> Build-Target
18:21 < LMJ> irrc, just re-run it, it will find packages not compiled and compile them again
18:22 < nacho_macho2> if i try it again, it builds the squashfs image again.. but not the pacakges..
18:22 < LMJ> you can run a Cleanup before
18:22 < LMJ> hum
18:22 < nacho_macho2> ok didnt no boutCleanup..
18:22 < rxr> nacho_macho2: you need to remove the .err logs
18:22 < LMJ> ha, i forgot about the .err ;)
18:22 < rxr> LMJ: Cleanup does not remove logs files ...
18:22 < LMJ> you see rxr, better to write this things once for all in a FAQ or Wiki :-p
18:22 < rxr> nacho_macho2: either remove the build/.../var/adm/logs/*.err manually or with the Create-ErrList "frontend"
18:23 < rxr> LMJ: ACK
18:23 < LMJ> :-D
18:23 < rxr> nacho_macho2: I usually rm manually
18:23 < nacho_macho2> ok
18:28 < nacho_macho2> i still get the error building xcb: configure: error: XCB requires xsltproc.
18:28 < nacho_macho2> i ve installed xcltproc and any xslt dev package i have ..
18:32 < nacho_macho2> any advices'
18:32 < nacho_macho2> ?
18:34 < sepp_> mplayer has still problems on non 4:3 displays :/
18:35 < sepp_> stupid thing
18:36 < rxr> nacho_macho2: libxslt ?
18:36 < rxr> sepp_: hm - I patched it once ...
18:36 < rxr> sepp_: /me can understand neither why they make such a problem out of that
18:37 < sepp_> i know, but it is still not fully working
18:37 < rxr> mplayer# cat x11-monitor-aspect.patch
18:37 < rxr> ouhm :-(
18:37 < nacho_macho2> rxr: yeah installed 1.1 libxlt-dev
18:38 < sepp_> played 2 short videos with -fs, not the 2nd gets the aspect wrong
18:38 < rxr> nacho_macho2: do you have this xsltproc in the build/.../ ?
18:38 < rxr> sepp_: hm
18:38 < rxr> sepp_: only tested playing on
18:38 < rxr> e
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18:38 < rxr> and that months ago, do not watch much video these days
18:39 < sepp> hehe
18:39 < nacho_macho2> libxslt1-dev is already the newest version.
18:39 < nacho_macho2> libxslt1.1 is already the newest version.
18:44 < nacho_macho2> could pls someone explain what the problem is here: http://paste.debian.net/22629
18:46 < rxr> you mean in your host system?
18:46 < rxr> that does not matter for building in the fresh T2 sandbox ...
18:47 < nacho_macho2> hmm, so my installation system is missing libxslt..
18:47 < nacho_macho2> i was usin kde light template (without customizing)
18:47 < rxr> ah -ok
18:47 < rxr> let me take a quick look
18:48 < nacho_macho2> and there in packages: packages:O -----5---- 112.350 textproc libxslt 1.1.20 / base/library 0
18:48 < nacho_macho2> i try with it..
18:48 < sepp> not enabled
18:48 < sepp> should be X -----5----- ....
18:49 < nacho_macho2> yeah
18:49 < nacho_macho2> done that
18:49 < sepp> put "X libxslt" in the pkgsel file
18:50 < nacho_macho2> sure
18:50 < nacho_macho2> i kno that..
18:50 < sepp> ohh, ok :)
18:50 < nacho_macho2> lurking around here since a few days :)
18:51 < nacho_macho2> now libxml2 is missin..
18:51 < nacho_macho2> i used the default packages list!!
18:51 < rxr> nacho_macho2: how many build errors do you get ?
18:51 < nacho_macho2> too many :)
18:51 < nacho_macho2> i break them
18:51 < rxr> nacho_macho2: you used a "not used that often" special kde-mini-live flavour
18:51 < rxr> nacho_macho2: more than 20 ?
18:52 < nacho_macho2> yeah
18:52 < nacho_macho2> rxr: even libxml2 is missin in that package temlate.. who creates those lists?
18:52 < rxr> nacho_macho2: you should have ask somewhen in the beginning if this kde-mini-live thing is good idea to start with
18:53 < nacho_macho2> rxr: let me ask it now then..
18:54 < CIA-8> rene * r22721 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/ (10-minimal-xorg.in 50-minimal-desktop.in):
18:54 < CIA-8> * moved libxml and libxslt from 50-minimal-desktop to 10-minimal-xorg
18:54 < CIA-8> (due new xcb)
18:54 < rxr> I only quickly added the kde-mini-live for someone here in IRC
18:54 < rxr> I never built it so far
18:54 < rxr> expect more dragons to linger around on the way .-)
18:54 < nacho_macho2> hehe
18:55 < nacho_macho2> ok.. i hope its only bout the missing deps in packages..
19:23 * rxr too
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20:00 < rxr> hi mtr_
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20:29 < nacho_macho2> here some food:
20:29 < nacho_macho2> !> ./configure: line 19618: syntax error near unexpected token `RANDR,'
20:29 < nacho_macho2> !> ./configure: line 19618: `XORG_DRIVER_CHECK_EXT(RANDR, randrproto)'
20:29 < nacho_macho2> !> Due to previous errors, no 5-xf86-video-amd.log file!
20:29 * R4gnar0k munches on it
20:32 < nacho_macho2> and here the xorg mailinglist entry.. http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-December/020449.html
20:36 < nacho_macho2> ok solved, i needed to install libdrm-devel
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